Who is the greatest Poker player of all time???

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  • bigbet1234
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 06-22-06
    • 625

    #36
    Me.
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    • timmyboy34243
      SBR MVP
      • 04-06-10
      • 1379

      #37
      Unger, if not at the top there aren't many above him. Was so far ahead of his time it's scary..........
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      • hitthew8room
        SBR Sharp
        • 11-09-09
        • 466

        #38
        obviously ivey, this is dumb
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        • stevenash
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          • 01-17-11
          • 65170

          #39
          Ivey is more intimidation then anything else.
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          • ByeShea
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            • 06-30-08
            • 8037

            #40
            Ben Affleck.
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            • MadTiger
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              • 04-19-09
              • 2724

              #41
              Originally posted by big0mar
              Stu by far, not even close Young guys here need a history lesson
              Cosign. Points on recharge if you remind me.
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              • pinchylarue
                SBR MVP
                • 01-04-11
                • 2666

                #42
                stu unger hands down
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                • Joe Dogs
                  SBR MVP
                  • 07-20-09
                  • 1931

                  #43
                  Stu"The Kid"Unger

                  Back in the day he was regarded as the best No limit hold'em player,hands down.

                  Stu was also a gin Rummy genius.....He was untouchable in this game.
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                  • Fishhead
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 08-11-05
                    • 40179

                    #44
                    Folks ......read the question correctly.


                    ALL-TIME


                    No way D.N. is the best of alltime..............geezus h crickits.
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                    • Glitch
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 07-08-09
                      • 11795

                      #45
                      if you play 10-2, youre not a top 3 player all-time. he's one of the greatest poker characters alltime
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                      • Fishhead
                        SBR Aristocracy
                        • 08-11-05
                        • 40179

                        #46
                        CHIP REESE would make many poker experts top three, and many would vote him #1.


                        REESE

                        DOYLE

                        IVEY
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                        • BRAVES1985
                          SBR MVP
                          • 05-23-10
                          • 4250

                          #47
                          Originally posted by Fishhead
                          CHIP REESE would make many poker experts top three, and many would vote him #1. REESE DOYLE IVEY
                          ya reese was for sure one of the best

                          great cash game player

                          RIP
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                          • gregm
                            SBR MVP
                            • 03-14-11
                            • 3535

                            #48
                            Originally posted by freeVICK
                            who the fukk said doyle?? that fat fukk probably hasnt won in decade. i guarantee you all the young pros look at him as easy money
                            What? That is absurd, the guy is one of the most successful poker players of all time,10 bracelets and a millionaire many times over.

                            I once read a great response on a poker forum 5 years ago that looked at winnings and wealth. alot of guys who would be ranked as the ones with the highest income wouldn't make that list after Black Friday.

                            This was from a full contact forum post five years ago, but its still pretty relevant. http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poke...t32803-50.html


                            "I still have to say Paul Phillips has to be the highest net worth player of the "big names". I would rank the players in this order.

                            Total Income (poker/endorsements/etc)

                            Paul Phillips
                            Doyle Brunson
                            Chip Reese
                            Phil Gordon
                            Mike Sexton
                            Phil Hellmuth


                            Poker Income Cash Games

                            Phil Ivey (spends more time than n e one else playing cards)
                            John D'Agostino (guy makes killing on Full Tilt every night)
                            Doyle Brunson
                            Chip Reese
                            Johnny Chan

                            Poker Income Tournaments (not just WSOP)

                            Chris Ferguson (always in the hunt in every tournament)
                            Doyle Brunson
                            Erik Seidel (Great tournament player)
                            Johnny Chan
                            John Juanda (I know he's young, but he's always right there)


                            Players that I have read about having bankroll issues

                            Amir Vahedi
                            Chris Moneymaker (fluke 2003 win, has done nothing since)
                            Mike Matusow (big swings, good player though)
                            Gus Hansen (aggressive style has gotten him in trouble)
                            Sam Farha


                            Last edited by gregm; 05-18-11, 04:26 PM.
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                            • BRAVES1985
                              SBR MVP
                              • 05-23-10
                              • 4250

                              #49
                              Originally posted by gregm
                              What? That is absurd, the guy is one of the most successful poker players of all time. I once read a great response on a poker forum 5 years ago that looked at winnings and wealth. alot of guys who would be ranked as the ones with the highest income wouldn't make that list after Black Friday. This was from a full contact forum post five years ago, but its still pretty relevant. http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poke...t32803-50.html "I still have to say Paul Phillips has to be the highest net worth player of the "big names". I would rank the players in this order. Total Income (poker/endorsements/etc) Paul Phillips Doyle Brunson Chip Reese Phil Gordon Mike Sexton Phil Hellmuth Poker Income Cash Games Phil Ivey (spends more time than n e one else playing cards) John D'Agostino (guy makes killing on Full Tilt every night) Doyle Brunson Chip Reese Johnny Chan Poker Income Tournaments (not just WSOP) Chris Ferguson (always in the hunt in every tournament) Doyle Brunson Erik Seidel (Great tournament player) Johnny Chan John Juanda (I know he's young, but he's always right there) Players that I have read about having bankroll issues Amir Vahedi Chris Moneymaker (fluke 2003 win, has done nothing since) Mike Matusow (big swings, good player though) Gus Hansen (aggressive style has gotten him in trouble) Sam Farha
                              i think he died a while back
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                              • daneblazer
                                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                • 09-14-08
                                • 27861

                                #50
                                You can argue that Doyle has done more for the game of poker than any other player. He has to be in the discussion.

                                You can't really compare him to the current player pool right now. That's like saying Michael Jordan and Joe Montana aren't good players because the young guys today would school them.
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                                • 8ArIvd5
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 04-24-10
                                  • 3175

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by gregm
                                  What? That is absurd, the guy is one of the most successful poker players of all time,10 bracelets and a millionaire many times over.

                                  I once read a great response on a poker forum 5 years ago that looked at winnings and wealth. alot of guys who would be ranked as the ones with the highest income wouldn't make that list after Black Friday.

                                  This was from a full contact forum post five years ago, but its still pretty relevant. http://www.fullcontactpoker.com/poke...t32803-50.html


                                  "I still have to say Paul Phillips has to be the highest net worth player of the "big names". I would rank the players in this order.

                                  Total Income (poker/endorsements/etc)

                                  Paul Phillips
                                  Doyle Brunson
                                  Chip Reese
                                  Phil Gordon
                                  Mike Sexton
                                  Phil Hellmuth


                                  Poker Income Cash Games

                                  Phil Ivey (spends more time than n e one else playing cards)
                                  John D'Agostino (guy makes killing on Full Tilt every night)
                                  Doyle Brunson
                                  Chip Reese
                                  Johnny Chan

                                  Poker Income Tournaments (not just WSOP)

                                  Chris Ferguson (always in the hunt in every tournament)
                                  Doyle Brunson
                                  Erik Seidel (Great tournament player)
                                  Johnny Chan
                                  John Juanda (I know he's young, but he's always right there)


                                  Players that I have read about having bankroll issues

                                  Amir Vahedi
                                  Chris Moneymaker (fluke 2003 win, has done nothing since)
                                  Mike Matusow (big swings, good player though)
                                  Gus Hansen (aggressive style has gotten him in trouble)
                                  Sam Farha


                                  tournament income alone doesn't make you the best tournament player.

                                  hands down, ungar was the best tournament player of all time.

                                  outside of tournaments is a different story.
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                                  • Nittany Lion
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 09-14-10
                                    • 1639

                                    #52
                                    No such thing as a "best poker player" the game is mostly luck.
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                                    • k13
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 07-16-10
                                      • 18053

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by Glitch
                                      not true. nobody can read people like him, youve never seen anyone call out opponents cards like he does. ive even seen him do this to real pros and in cash games. the top 2 in my book are negreanu and ivey. hard to argue with dwan, the numbers dont really lie and his consistency is amazing.


                                      i guess i didnt read the all-time part. stu ungar is the correct answer.
                                      Yeah the best part about negreanu is he calls out the opponents cards and still makes the wrong call.

                                      He's a calling station.

                                      Still good in tournaments overall.
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                                      • Emily_Haines
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 04-14-09
                                        • 15917

                                        #54
                                        I laugh at all you idiots that say Ungar was the best. When the guy died he did not have $800 to his name. He had to beg people to stake him in tournaments. That don't sound like the worlds greatest poker player to me.
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                                        • MadTiger
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 04-19-09
                                          • 2724

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by Fishhead
                                          CHIP REESE would make many poker experts top three, and many would vote him #1. REESE DOYLE IVEY
                                          I can see the pattern. All three are proficient at MULTIPLE forms of poker.

                                          CHIP REESE WSOP Titles:
                                          1978 $1,000 Seven-Card Stud Split $19,200 1982 $5,000 Limit 7 Card Stud $92,500 2006 $50,000 H.O.R.S.E. World Championship $1,784,640


                                          DOYLE BRUNSON WSOP Titles:
                                          1976 $5,000 Deuce to Seven Draw $80,250 1976 $10,000 No Limit Hold'em World Championship $230,000 1977 $1,000 Seven-Card Stud Split $62,500 1977 $10,000 No Limit Hold'em World Championship $340,000 1978 $5,000 Seven-Card Stud $68,000 1979 $600 Mixed Doubles (with Starla Brodie)[8] $4,500 1991 $2,500 No Limit Hold'em $208,000 1998 $1,500 Seven-Card Razz $93,000 2003 $2,000 H.O.R.S.E. $84,080 2005 $5,000 No Limit Shorthanded Texas Hold'em (6 players per table) $367,800


                                          PHIL IVEY WSOP Titles:
                                          2000 $2,500 Pot Limit Omaha $195,000 2002 $2,500 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo $118,440 2002 $2,000 S.H.O.E. $107,540 2002 $1,500 7 Card Stud $132,000 2005 $5,000 Pot Limit Omaha $635,603 2009 $2,500 No-Limit 2-7 Draw Lowball $96,367 2009 $2,500 Omaha Hi/Lo / 7 Card Stud Hi/Lo $220,538 2010 $3,000 H.O.R.S.E. $329,840
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                                          • MadTiger
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 04-19-09
                                            • 2724

                                            #56
                                            Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                                            I laugh at all you idiots that say Ungar was the best. When the guy died he did not have $800 to his name. He had to beg people to stake him in tournaments. That don't sound like the worlds greatest poker player to me.
                                            Poker playing is separate from substance abuse and mental illness issues. That's like saying if Tiger Woods starts fukcing off all of his money, he won't go down as one of the best ever.
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                                            • pinchylarue
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 01-04-11
                                              • 2666

                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                                              I laugh at all you idiots that say Ungar was the best. When the guy died he did not have $800 to his name. He had to beg people to stake him in tournaments. That don't sound like the worlds greatest poker player to me.
                                              he had an addiction to drugs and took care of his daughter with his last tourny winnings. he IS the best and ALWAYS will be IMO.

                                              btw just because someone is poor,that doesn't mean they didn't have the most skill of all time. I guess it's if you think the player is greater , by the money he makes.
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                                              • pinchylarue
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 01-04-11
                                                • 2666

                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by MadTiger
                                                Poker playing is separate from substance abuse and mental illness issues. That's like saying if Tiger Woods starts fukcing off all of his money, he won't go down as one of the best ever.
                                                yeah thats what I was trying to get at in my post, but you said it better
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                                                • stevenash
                                                  Moderator
                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                  • 65170

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by Emily_Haines
                                                  I laugh at all you idiots that say Ungar was the best. When the guy died he did not have $800 to his name. He had to beg people to stake him in tournaments. That don't sound like the worlds greatest poker player to me.
                                                  It amazes me how you can be so stupid in one post, and Einstein in another.
                                                  He had a six figure a year coke habit, he lost a lot of his poker money on sports, he spent tons on his family........
                                                  On the felt table he had no equal then, and nobody today could have beaten him probably, but we'll never know.
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                                                  • BRAVES1985
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 05-23-10
                                                    • 4250

                                                    #60
                                                    guys you cant go by just tournaments

                                                    guys like reese unger chan ect have skooled vegas clowns for years in cash games

                                                    doyle's net worth is over 100 mil
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                                                    • Glitch
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 07-08-09
                                                      • 11795

                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by k13
                                                      Yeah the best part about negreanu is he calls out the opponents cards and still makes the wrong call.

                                                      He's a calling station.

                                                      Still good in tournaments overall.

                                                      he makes the laydown sometimes but he just has the gamble in his blood but thats way more skillful than not knowing what youre against and still goin.
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                                                      • Congruency
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 04-12-10
                                                        • 561

                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by Glitch
                                                        not true. nobody can read people like him, youve never seen anyone call out opponents cards like he does. ive even seen him do this to real pros and in cash games. the top 2 in my book are negreanu and ivey. hard to argue with dwan, the numbers dont really lie and his consistency is amazing.


                                                        i guess i didnt read the all-time part. stu ungar is the correct answer.

                                                        LMAO

                                                        youre clueless buddy

                                                        all the TOP pros (ivey, dwan, patrik, etc.) can call cards, theyre just not dumb enough to call it out loud

                                                        why would you ever call someone's hand out loud, especially if the opponent is a skillful player...he can make adjustments based on that...luckily for daniel the guy he was HU with was a nobody donk

                                                        how do you defend him getting his ass handed to him in high stakes cash games?
                                                        even he had to rebuild his game these past 2 years, no fukkin chance he's in the top 5 players today, and top 10 might be a stretch
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                                                        • Gee
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 04-08-10
                                                          • 4547

                                                          #63
                                                          If we are talking greatest of ALL time, I don't think you even get past Ungar.

                                                          It is an absolute no-brainer.

                                                          Stu was one of a kind.
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                                                          • gregm
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 03-14-11
                                                            • 3535

                                                            #64
                                                            I totally agree about stu unger, people who claim he wasnt great because he died broke in a motel room never saw him play poker or dont understand the history of the game, he may have been a failure as a human being but he was a genius at cards, not just poker but blackjack and gin rummy too.

                                                            I love that quote from him " "Some day, I suppose it's possible for someone to be a better no limit hold em player than me. I doubt it, but it could happen. But, I swear to you, I don't see how anyone could ever play gin better than me." Stu Unger

                                                            Doyle deserves all the credit for the bracelets and the longevity, Archie Karas was another one that deserves mention as one of the greatest streaks and one of the greatest all around gamblers, he beat Unger and Reese, and chip reeese was certainly the greatest at cash games, but Stu Unger was without a doubt a one of a kind genius.

                                                            Archie Karas is certainly worth a mention here though
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                                                            • pinchylarue
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 01-04-11
                                                              • 2666

                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by Congruency
                                                              LMAO youre clueless buddy all the TOP pros (ivey, dwan, patrik, etc.) can call cards, theyre just not dumb enough to call it out loud why would you ever call someone's hand out loud, especially if the opponent is a skillful player...he can make adjustments based on that...luckily for daniel the guy he was HU with was a nobody donk how do you defend him getting his ass handed to him in high stakes cash games? even he had to rebuild his game these past 2 years, no fukkin chance he's in the top 5 players today, and top 10 might be a stretch
                                                              dwan?????

                                                              wikipedia his wins/losses and get then come back to this thread and make the same statement.
                                                              bottom line is dwan is a fish and lets his emotions dictate his play.
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                                                              • jkilla990
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 08-28-10
                                                                • 713

                                                                #66
                                                                1. Ungar
                                                                2. Ivey
                                                                2. Dwan
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                                                                • JOEY_TT
                                                                  SBR Rookie
                                                                  • 02-25-11
                                                                  • 46

                                                                  #67
                                                                  2005 $5,000 No Limit Shorthanded Texas Hold'em (6 players per table) $367,800, Doyle Brunson
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                                                                  • Glitch
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 07-08-09
                                                                    • 11795

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Originally posted by Congruency
                                                                    LMAO

                                                                    youre clueless buddy

                                                                    all the TOP pros (ivey, dwan, patrik, etc.) can call cards, theyre just not dumb enough to call it out loud

                                                                    why would you ever call someone's hand out loud, especially if the opponent is a skillful player...he can make adjustments based on that...luckily for daniel the guy he was HU with was a nobody donk

                                                                    how do you defend him getting his ass handed to him in high stakes cash games?
                                                                    even he had to rebuild his game these past 2 years, no fukkin chance he's in the top 5 players today, and top 10 might be a stretch
                                                                    "why would you ever call someone's hand out loud"

                                                                    youre the clueless one if you really dont know the answer to that question. to see them skip a breath or look like a ghost or to better measure the tone of a response when you ask them a dumb question just to hear their voice. to rattle them.

                                                                    if they move all in and youre last to act 2-handed and hes just making a decision of whether to go with you or not, then he says their hand, whats dumb about that if the moneys in already. he does ok in cash games.
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                                                                    • frostno98
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                                                                      • 09-11-07
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                                                                      • Glitch
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                                                                        • 07-08-09
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