Anybody who thinks the Heat will lose the series v the bulls should stop gambling.

[SportsPedagogy]

I love how everybody who backs the Heat stress about how horrible the Bulls offense is, how many great players the Heat have, How Rose shouldnt be MVP, all the other Bulls are Bums, yet every game has been close until the final 4 minutes or so. Last night the Bulls had a shot to win it. The foul calls have been ridiculous. I see alot of neutral fans who just casual watch the game noticing it. Of course all of the Heat die hards will scream that Bulls fans and Bulls backers are just whining about foul calls. Thats what i would do too if i need people on a forum to think i was a Sports Betting genius.
For as much as people tout the Heat they havent had an easy time with "The worst number 1 seed ever" .

I have never bashed anybody for their pick and i have never thrown any of my picks in somebodys face.

I think the thing that gets me the most is when people make up their own stats or events to try and make their claims seem better. The NBA forum looks more like a pissing contest then a Betting discussion.

[7secondsOrLess]

lol look at him thinking hes all smart and shit he thinks hes the only one that thought mia would win so wat if he was right about game 1 wat about the many other terrible calls he makes daily

[7secondsOrLess]

i won this thread lmao how many cookies do u want bro

[GunShard]

Will the Heat win Game 5?

[AribaAriba]

i think it will go to 7, bulls would take tonight's game.

[rm18]

All Miami's wins were close if Asik did not get hurt it is probably 3-1 Chicago right now

[JT OZ]

All Miami's wins were close if Asik did not get hurt it is probably 3-1 Chicago right now

Joking right?

[Deggs]

Miami will wrap it up tonight.

[todd73nj]

Omer Asik will break thru tonight and have a game for the ages, 12 mins, 2 pt, 3 rebs, 2 pf.

This could be the difference!

[aireent777]

Omer Asik will break thru tonight and have a game for the ages, 12 mins, 2 pt, 3 rebs, 2 pf.

This could be the difference!

I think he is out for the rest of the post season. Fractured Fibula(Ankle).

[SportsPedagogy]

The reason the Bulls even stayed close in game three was they shut down Haslem. How did they do that? They kept Asik on the bench!

In actuality, Haslem got his first 2 points in the play that Asik got hurt and scored the other 6 points after that. Before that ... ZERO points for Haslem.

All this guy does is bash Asik. Despite many attempts to explain how sometimes players contribute in ways that stat sheets dont log. Obviously, he knows more then a professional sports team and NBA coach of the year.

[bigsmitty]

Isn't this line really a gift? I mean is CHI going to lose in their own house? I can see MIA taking game six at home but this is CHI in my mind.

[aireent777]

Books are begging you to take the Heat plus the points.

[MysteryMung]

i'ma take my talents to souf beach

[colts]

Is today's pick Miami ML?

[Avenger]

Brrrrump!

[todd73nj]

What horrible luck.

If Asik is available at full strength, the Bulls would have pulled out the win tonight.

Well there is always next year..

Solong Omer!

[onlooker]

What horrible luck.

If Asik is available at full strength, the Bulls would have pulled out the win tonight.

Well there is always next year..

Solong Omer!

Asik going down killed the Bulls chances.

Funny stuff.

[Ace_of_Spades]

Bulls are a joke good riddance to them. Up 10 with 3 to go and lose, hahaha

[Goat Milk]

Lebron has been in the NBA finals, Conferences finals multiple years as well. The same goes for guys like Big Z, Haslem (championship), Howard, Dampier (finals appearance), Bibby (conf. finals), and maybe others I've forgotten. Boozer (WCF appearance), Kover (WCF appearance) and Thibbedeu (championship, finals apperance) are the three most experienced guys on the Bulls team. I'm not discounting the coaching. Tom is a way better coach than Eric.

However, this really just boils down to X's and O's. In the finals, I expect Spolstra to get exposed, and it will be up to the players to make up for that lack of successful encouragement.

The Bulls are going to rely on Keith Bogans and Brewer to guard Dwayne Wade in this series. While this may seem solid, both of these guys have had trouble in the past defending Wade. Wade is originally from Chicago, and has had some his best PLAYOFF performances against the Bulls in the past. The same goes for Lebron, who will be guarded by Luol Deng. Deng in my opinion is the Bulls best perimeter defender, and can handle Lebron at times, but when he has the jump shot going, similar to Durant, Rose, or any other star, there is no one in the world that can defend Lebron. Deng I believe can make it hard for him at times, but to be frank, that's not enough when you have another top tier option in Dwayne Wade. 2 of the 3 best players on the planet on one team (and no, it can't be argued that Rose is better than Wade because He's done it for 1 season, and Wade even put up way better numbers in the past than Rose just did when he was the only option on a team). So miami has the 2 best players on the court.

Rose is going to get his but he's going to be guarded by about 4 different defenders. Bibby, Chalmers, Rose, and James. That's a lot of guys at a lot of different sizes, speeds, and lengths that can make it difficult for Rose.

Lets remember that the Jazz team that got to the WCF was very similar to this Bulls team. Bulls have a little better defense, but this team is structured the same way. A dominant scoring pg in D will, and they had Brewer, they had Korver and Boozer, they had Raja Ball (i.e. similar to Bogans), CJ miles- similar to deng, not as good. But you get the picture. They were never getting to the NBA championship.

Also lets remember that Boozer is one of the worst PF defenders in the NBA. Bosh will be a factor in this series, and with constant collapsing on Wade and James, Bosh is going to get wide open shots on a consistant basis and he loves those midrange jump shots.

The Bulls have a significant advantage in the paint with their bigs, but we have to take into account foul trouble. You got the two leading free throw shooters in the league on 1 team, puting pressure on the refs every possession. Its likely that Noah and Boozer are in foul trouble in some of these games. Plus Wade and James both averaged nearly 10 rebounds a piece in the Boston series. These guys are fully capable and explosive enough to grab rebounds over 7 footers when its needed.

The Bulls bench also has an advantage here. Guys like CJ Watson, Ashik, Gibson, Brewer have proven their toughness in the playoffs. However, the Bulls are seriously lacking in that guy off the bench that can create offense whenever he wants. They need Watson to be that guy for them. The Heat bench hasn't even been utilized. Think about Haslem, who is one of the best on the defensive end when he's healthy, chalmers, big bodies like Big Z, Dampier, Maglore, HOward, all who have signifcant playoff EXPERIENCE. Mike Miller has been no where to be found. These guys are going to get theirs eventually. Remember that in the end, these guys are NBA players, they won't keep missing WIDE OPEN jump shots on a consistant basis. In the end, they still are in the NBA. Just remember that.

So while Chicago might rely on packing in the paint and Rose creating most of the offense, they just don't have the offensive weapons to keep up with MIami in a playoff series of 7 games. Miami is going to pack in the paint too and force Rose to give it up. Bogans and Deng proven they can make outside shots, but the Heat are some of the best at closing out the three point line, and if you miss a deep 2, they are off to the races most likely with Wade and James.

So Miami has a significant advantage on the fast break. What we saw in the BOston series is that MIami is ruthless on the defensive end when you let them get their defense set. That's why Doc Rivers was begging Rondo to PUSH the ball and get Miami off Balance. Chicago must do this to have any sort of success. WHen the jitters are going, a lot of young pgs just bring it up slowly and think thats its easier to get a bucket like that when its not.

For all those that told me fukk my writeups and they are not shit another spot on analysis lol indeed

[No coincidences]

For all those that told me fukk my writeups and they are not shit another spot on analysis lol indeed

Did you just bow to yourself?

[Goat Milk]

Did you just bow to yourself?

[JOHON8]

Did you just bow to yourself?

[CanuckG]

At least Goat Milk finally got something right

[chrisharvard01]

The foul calls have been ridiculous. I see alot of neutral fans who just casual watch the game noticing it. Of course all of the Heat die hards will scream that Bulls fans and Bulls backers are just whining about foul calls. Thats what i would do too if i need people on a forum to think i was a Sports Betting genius.

This is a sharp post. I'm not saying the series was "fixed".


Congrats to lakerboy on your winner!

[JR007]

Humility...has never been your strong suit goat......how about those other writeup's that you got 'your ass drilled on' ???????

[Bradyd]

I love how everybody who backs the Heat stress about how horrible the Bulls offense is, how many great players the Heat have, How Rose shouldnt be MVP, all the other Bulls are Bums, yet every game has been close until the final 4 minutes or so. Last night the Bulls had a shot to win it. The foul calls have been ridiculous. I see alot of neutral fans who just casual watch the game noticing it. Of course all of the Heat die hards will scream that Bulls fans and Bulls backers are just whining about foul calls. Thats what i would do too if i need people on a forum to think i was a Sports Betting genius.
For as much as people tout the Heat they havent had an easy time with "The worst number 1 seed ever" .

I have never bashed anybody for their pick and i have never thrown any of my picks in somebodys face.

I think the thing that gets me the most is when people make up their own stats or events to try and make their claims seem better. The NBA forum looks more like a pissing contest then a Betting discussion.

I believe you are the guy who made a post immediately after game 1 of this series that basically said: If you are still on the Heat than you are a cheerleader and shouldn't be gambling... How is that not bashing someone's pick??

[SportsPedagogy]

I believe you are the guy who made a post immediately after game 1 of this series that basically said: If you are still on the Heat than you are a cheerleader and shouldn't be gambling... How is that not bashing someone's pick??

Actually, if you would go back and read it, you would find out that it was directed to everybody who was making their picks with no other logic then "Go Heat". I urged people to actually look into why they were making their pick. I also said the same logic for people who were just going "Go Bulls". The Heat came back and won 4 pretty close games with some great close out shooting, some Bulls choking and some well placed calls to keep them in each game.

I have never went into someones thread after their pick lost and posted a few which seems to be a re occuring them with some people.

[reppin_the_847]

Congrats LB. You called it when us Bulls backers forgot that the fix was in.

[Capybara]

Props, LB. You stuck your jaw out there early and turned out to be right on, so nothin' but respect.

[Bradyd]

Actually, if you would go back and read it, you would find out that it was directed to everybody who was making their picks with no other logic then "Go Heat". I urged people to actually look into why they were making their pick. I also said the same logic for people who were just going "Go Bulls". The Heat came back and won 4 pretty close games with some great close out shooting, some Bulls choking and some well placed calls to keep them in each game.

I have never went into someones thread after their pick lost and posted a few which seems to be a re occuring them with some people.

I did read it and I actually commented in the thread. It was a one-sided post where you wonder why anyone in the right mind would bet on the Heat. Completely based off that 1st game might I add.

Sure some people don't use sound logic or use write ups when posting a pick, but it's their preference. It does go both ways as there were people in that thread talking nonsense in favor of Chicago, but you said nothing. Frankly when I was making the argument for Miami I basically stated a 3 things: Miami's got 3 stars and the Bulls have 1, Miami has a decent bench with the Bulls bench not being that much better, and if you take Rose out of the game than they win the series. And some people said I wasn't using "logic" and I pretty much left it at that. I certainly wasn't a cheerleader as I don't even have a team.

Some people do post the in threads.. But people are also posting their bold predictions and pretty much taunting people who pick otherwise...

[SportsPedagogy]

Iv seen alot of people citing their reasons why the Heat will win, and why the Bulls will win. Nobody predicted the Bulls to win by 21, and nobody seems to be making adjustments to their mentality. I get that its a best of 7 series, but moving forward, the Heat bench is getting any better, Wade and Lebrons legs arent getting any fresher and Spolstra isnt going to be out coaching Thibs any time soon.

The thing that worries me the most for these Heat, is that alot of their points in the game from stupid plays by the Bulls. Bad inbounds passes and bad passes in general lead to fastbreak scores or 2 on 1s, especially in the first half. Meanwhile, Chicago set up their offense and executed. Now the Heat are stuck between a rock and a hard place. ... do they keep overplaying their stars and risk them Fatiguing the way Wade did in the 4th each game, or do they play their bench players and get risk them getting exposed and leading to long runs for the Bulls.

Im not saying this season is over, but this is what the Bulls do, they play great Defense, they rebound their butts off and they out hustle then guys across from them. The only thing the Heat can hope the Bulls dont keep consistent at is their shooting. The Bulls shooting has been inconsistent thru out the playoffs but has been very well in games 5 and 6 vs Atlanta and now Game 1 vs Miami. If the Heat can get the Bulls to lose faith in their new found offense, then they have a chance.

My point is, for everybody who is backing Miami with the same confidence they were before game 1, you need to really thing about wither you wanna be a gambler or just a cheerleader, cause mixing the two is not a good combination.

Was it really that one sided of an argument that i made?

[lakerboy]

Mods closse this thread. I tried to warn all these guys backing the bulls but now they are blaming the refs. They lost 4-1. Nba is out of the fixing biz. Its obvious the last few years with so many short series. Let's move on.

[TodayIsForgotten]

I just want to know what tallcash21 thinks about my brilliant post now? and how d2bets thought i was off my rocker for calling the bulls just a good team and not a great team. man can i just gloat in this? People calling me out and voila... lets go heat.

[lunchbawks]

The bulls had no chance. They burn 20 seconds off every shotclock.