could Villanova miss the ncaa tournament?

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  • stogies
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    • 02-24-11
    • 641

    #36
    any 9-9 team in big east reg season that loses 1st game of tournament could be left off. only one that would still make it is uconn because of school name and kemba walker.
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    • stevenash
      Moderator
      • 01-17-11
      • 65463

      #37
      Originally posted by stogies
      any 9-9 team in big east reg season that loses 1st game of tournament could be left off. only one that would still make it is uconn because of school name and kemba walker.


      ....and 5 wins over top 25 opponents, and the seventh toughest schedule in the nation, and the 21 wins, and the ever so important 20 rank RPI.

      Kemba and the UCONN brand name is secondary.
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      • stevenash
        Moderator
        • 01-17-11
        • 65463

        #38
        Nova is in.
        Sorry haters.
        21 wins overall, Big East 9-7 record with 32 RPI ranking gets you in.
        Not even a bubble debate.
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        • sicky123
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          • 10-02-08
          • 368

          #39
          Originally posted by IAMWINNER
          they have no interior offense and you can't rely on one guy (fisher) to carry the team during the tournament.
          Why the Fisher plug ? He is not even their most reliable player right now, Stokes is.
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          • sicky123
            Restricted User
            • 10-02-08
            • 368

            #40
            Originally posted by stevenash
            ....and 5 wins over top 25 opponents, and the seventh toughest schedule in the nation, and the 21 wins, and the ever so important 20 rank RPI.

            Kemba and the UCONN brand name is secondary.
            and... they just won on the road @ cincy (seals any question right there)

            We could play the "and" game all day
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            • BiffTFinancial
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-29-09
              • 22670

              #41
              silly questions like this are the reason that sports talk radio thrives. Nova is in 100% even if they get blown out in their final regular season game and first Big East tourney game.
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              • slatter
                SBR Sharp
                • 11-15-10
                • 472

                #42
                Not a chance. They could lose to Pitt and lose in the first round of the Big East Tournament and still get a 10 seed. Just too many solid wins to keep them out: UCLA, Cincy, Maryland, Syracuse, Marquette and WVU.
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                • stevenash
                  Moderator
                  • 01-17-11
                  • 65463

                  #43
                  Originally posted by sicky123
                  and... they just won on the road @ cincy (seals any question right there)

                  We could play the "and" game all day
                  Check this out.
                  $ = quality win
                  $$ = super quality win
                  ? = bad loss


                  RealTimeRPI.com: RPI, RPI Rankings, college basketball rpi, Real Time NCAA College Basketball and Sports Ratings - the most accurate independent analysis of the NCAA college basketball Rating Percentage Index (RPI)
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                  • sicky123
                    Restricted User
                    • 10-02-08
                    • 368

                    #44
                    Originally posted by stevenash
                    Check this out.
                    $ = quality win
                    $$ = super quality win
                    ? = bad loss


                    http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_155_Men.html
                    Cool

                    Will check that out. Thanks
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                    • BIGDAY
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 02-17-10
                      • 48245

                      #45
                      Dang! I thought ND was going to cover easily... Just not that easy... Nova looked terrible. How do they make the tourney? No chance imo.
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                      • stevenash
                        Moderator
                        • 01-17-11
                        • 65463

                        #46
                        This is Nova.
                        These are the numbers the committee look at.
                        They are in, even with the two ? losses

                        RealTimeRPI.com: RPI, RPI Rankings, college basketball rpi, Real Time NCAA College Basketball and Sports Ratings - the most accurate independent analysis of the NCAA college basketball Rating Percentage Index (RPI)
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                        • ex50warrior
                          SBR MVP
                          • 10-10-09
                          • 3821

                          #47
                          I think they're in but my God, they've gone from a 2 seed down to a 8-9 seed!
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                          • milwaukee mike
                            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                            • 08-22-07
                            • 26914

                            #48
                            of course i think they're in too, but not a complete and total lock.
                            yes their rpi is 32 NOW but what will it be if they lose the next 2 in blowout fashion?

                            everyone that says they're in 100%, i will give you a nice offer - i will gladly pay you 1 point now, if nova doesn't make it then you pay me 2 pts/day for 3 months

                            if it's 100% then it's a free point for you!
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                            • milwaukee mike
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 08-22-07
                              • 26914

                              #49
                              i should've started the thread with "should villanova make the ncaa tournament"
                              i don't think playing your last 9 games as badly as nova has (and let's say it turns into 11 games) should let you get into the tournament when you're .500 in your conference

                              imho how you're playing at the end of the year should count more than how you were playing at the beginning
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                              • stevenash
                                Moderator
                                • 01-17-11
                                • 65463

                                #50
                                'Nova's RPI isn't taking much of a hit if they lose to Pitt and ND on the road.
                                No, I'm not giving you 180:1 odds either.
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                                • milwaukee mike
                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                  • 08-22-07
                                  • 26914

                                  #51
                                  Originally posted by stevenash
                                  'Nova's RPI isn't taking much of a hit if they lose to Pitt and ND on the road.
                                  No, I'm not giving you 180:1 odds either.
                                  if there's not even a debate and they're in 100% then what does it matter what the odds are?
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                                  • flocko76
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 10-01-10
                                    • 1447

                                    #52
                                    i think last year there could have been debate but with the extra teams making the tourney, and the fact they are still ranked and they are losing to ranked teams won't hurt them from making it this year. You can put them on the bubble, but who knocks them out? I've looked at ESPN's 1st four out and none of them are better than nova. (memphis, clemson, colorado, boston college)
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                                    • stevenash
                                      Moderator
                                      • 01-17-11
                                      • 65463

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                      if there's not even a debate and they're in 100% then what does it matter what the odds are?
                                      Because I don't lay 180:1 on anything, stone cold lock or not.
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                                      • BettingWizard
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 11-28-09
                                        • 6522

                                        #54
                                        they are 100% in
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                                        • stevenash
                                          Moderator
                                          • 01-17-11
                                          • 65463

                                          #55
                                          Of course they are.
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                                          • tdog152
                                            SBR Hustler
                                            • 12-15-10
                                            • 88

                                            #56
                                            i think they still get in
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                                            • jonmic
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 09-25-06
                                              • 685

                                              #57
                                              small chance of that happening, I think they will be in as a 9 seed
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                                              • AMBlai01
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 09-16-08
                                                • 5882

                                                #58
                                                They will be in probably a 6 or 7 seed....
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                                                • Stallion
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 03-21-10
                                                  • 3617

                                                  #59
                                                  They will be in it for sure. I will bet points they will be in.
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                                                  • biggamerife21
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 01-04-09
                                                    • 529

                                                    #60
                                                    Yorou is rated the number 7 center and going 3rd in 2012 mock drafts.

                                                    Fisher and Wayns nbadraft.net top 10 point guards.

                                                    Cheeks-Armwood-Stokes top 100 recruits

                                                    Pena- 40 year old veteran who was sabastian telfair go to man in high school.

                                                    On paper this team looks good but they make me want to vomit everytime i watch them this year- they have shit the bed game after game. There worth a future bet at 20-1 or better to win there region if they wake up. They prolly wont but its worth a shot at those odds. I agree tho there trash right now and have been for a while.
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                                                    • Rollins08
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 04-20-07
                                                      • 1337

                                                      #61
                                                      You can't tell me Nova isn't one of the best 68 teams in the country and by far the best bubble team. The big east beats each other up, thats just the way it is.
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                                                      • biggamerife21
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 01-04-09
                                                        • 529

                                                        #62
                                                        they havent played this bad since ricky wright-bryan lynch-gary buccannon days. the talent is there we just got to put it together for 40 minutes 6 times in a row
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                                                        • stevenash
                                                          Moderator
                                                          • 01-17-11
                                                          • 65463

                                                          #63
                                                          Tourney is not bypassing a Big East team that has a 32 RPI for a Bumfuck University bubble team with a 76 RPI with a 25-6 record (or something like that)
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                                                          • Chandler
                                                            Restricted User
                                                            • 01-16-11
                                                            • 705

                                                            #64
                                                            uh oh
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                                                            • MartinBlank
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 07-20-08
                                                              • 8382

                                                              #65
                                                              Villanova is in the tournament.

                                                              Not even open for debate.
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                                                              • Chandler
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 01-16-11
                                                                • 705

                                                                #66
                                                                uh oh
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                                                                • GoldRush7
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 04-27-09
                                                                  • 2014

                                                                  #67
                                                                  villanova is so bad
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                                                                  • Powderguy
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 09-18-09
                                                                    • 6939

                                                                    #68
                                                                    What a choke job
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                                                                    • D3 Mighty Ducks
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 12-17-09
                                                                      • 11939

                                                                      #69
                                                                      I hope the committee keeps this crappy team out.

                                                                      All I know if that if they do make it into the tournament I'm throwing some $$ on them as a future to make it to the Final Four cause they'll be motivated and have good value.
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                                                                      • Cuse0323
                                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                        • 12-09-09
                                                                        • 30169

                                                                        #70
                                                                        I really hope they get snubbed, I'll laugh my ass off.
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