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  • Lets go out
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 01-13-11
    • 737

    #1296
    Originally posted by rochestertitans
    get me a biggie 2maro i lost my load on the 6ers lol

    Nice big card tomorrow...we should be able to isolate some good plays tommorrow....If you look at my post on my first set i wrote that i thiught vegas was really sharp tonight......as far as we go they were...usually the system shows us the winners clearly...tonight was just strange when i looked at the results....Cant put my finger on what it was...just seemed ....i dont know.....flat.....i mean dont get me wrong the plays were all plays ......i would release again if i read'em the same way tommorrow....IDK....just flat...its the best way i can explain it.....Hindsight is 20/20
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    • Lets go out
      SBR Wise Guy
      • 01-13-11
      • 737

      #1297
      Originally posted by Hoja Verdes
      That's an understatement. I saw your post above about your hectic day, just wanted to say congrats on a great record again and that you are doing a tremendous service to the site here. I hope you know that the fade tonight was nothing personal, just trying to catch a little piece of the market correction.

      Keep doing everything exactly as you have been, making time for yourself of course. Two pieces of wisdom to stay on the straight and narrow and avoid some of the mistakes of past posters:

      1) Be sure you're always posting widely available lines as the play. If you like something at +6, and it's +6 when you run it through the system for the last time, but by the time you sit down to post it's moved to +5, then either post it +5 or pass on the game. It's obvious in the past couple weeks that you are a standup guy without the ego issues that many tend to get with success. But a lot of guys in the past here have gotten greedy and will say things like "well, i got +6 earlier, sorry that there's only +5 out there now, i punched my bets in two hours ago." Then inevitably the game will land on 5. I've noticed so far, that if anything, you're posting lines that have actually moved the other way (i.e. you post +14 and there are some +14.5's out there). That's just fine, obviously. But like I said, it's clear you're a straight-shooter, so you really shouldn't have to worry about this.

      2) Secondly, and this isn't terribly important, but when you go back to grade your plays each night, I'd recommend quoting yourself and adding the 'win' or 'loss' emoticons/etc. next to them, as opposed to actually editing the original post. Again, you've got only good intentions, so it's not that big of a deal, but it's technically proper 'play posting etiquette,' for lack of a better phrase.

      Best of luck figuring out the time management side of things, as this has certainly become a second job for you it seems. I've got a family as well, and find that I get some of my best thinking/working/problem-solving/etc done b/t 5:30-6:30am and 9:30-10:30pm. You can also free up some time during the day to run the numbers by eating lunch at work. Easier said than done I know, but I ran a nine-employee company for 5 years as well, so I know how stressful it is. I scarfed down many a Subway sandwich on the copy machine between customers and phone calls. Cheers!
      I wish the day was 35 hours long
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      • nikossf
        SBR MVP
        • 03-02-10
        • 2217

        #1298
        Hey LGO,. A lot of sound advice and opinions tonight...Overall everyone should still be up if your doing this correctly. No reason to have a few PLAYS, ruin a few DAYS worth of work. Keep it up, man. looking forward to seeing where this goes...




        HAHHAa,..but this is coming from someone who was just screaming at my television because the games weren't going MY way... HAHAHAHAHa
        Last edited by nikossf; 02-15-11, 11:54 PM. Reason: because I wanted to..and because its fun.
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        • Lets go out
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 01-13-11
          • 737

          #1299
          Oh and BTW if anyone is wondering....before i release the plays i bet them with my book....the lines i get are sometimes more beneficial than those that i see here in the live odds section...I ALWAYS use the average line i see there...even if mine is better....sometimes i win my bets and lose them here on the site....Its actually happened quite a few times.......Hoja is right...i am and always will be a straight shooter
          GL...LGO
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          • reformed
            SBR MVP
            • 11-18-10
            • 1384

            #1300
            it really is a shame unlv wont cover...if you told me air force would have this little points with 6 to go I would put a good deal on them to cover. probably their worst shooting game of the year.
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            • craka_lakin
              SBR Hustler
              • 01-19-10
              • 52

              #1301
              wow tried to salvage unlv with undr 2nd 66.5 under lol guess it hits lol and u never know up by 7 with 4 min left
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              • BetterBizness
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 05-20-06
                • 5737

                #1302
                Originally posted by Lets go out
                Late me take you through my night.....I run a company all day long....completely unrelated to the sports gambling world.....I usually have help sending each matchup through the system trials....tonight i did not.....i got home from work and gathered the results of the first set of trials i ran this morning.....i re-logged everthing back into the system for the second and third trials....i helped my kids with their homwork and drove my daughter to the mall for some thing she needed.....when i got home i gathered all of the info and ran the fourth trial minus the later games due to time constraints...i shoved my dinner down my throat and posted the plays for all of the games other than the later ones....again....due to time constraints.....after that i wisked my son off to his basketball game.....by now i smell like a dogs dick cause im still wearing my work clothes.....after thew game i came home and sent the later games through the final two sets of trials.....i posted the plays asap....and i do mean as soon as possible.......If you read my first set of plays tonight i mentioned that there may be another play tonight...i wasnt sure as i had not yet done the work.....as it turns out there were two......and btw this is how it usually goes...there is no chasing going on ......also ....now i have the additional work of trying to eliminate undesirable games......I'll start getting tomorrows numbers together in a little while so that when i get up in the morning i can move a little faster.......and it starts all over again......this was a small card tonight compared to some....and i am plenty tired......given the gravity of what we are undertaking here ( that being me suggesting to you where to risk your hard earned money) i think being thorough is a must......If you can think of a better way to relegate my time im all ears.....hope this answered your questions

                LGO
                I just stumbled into this thread, and I rarely ever bet NCAAB games, but it sounds like there is a bit of a following here, and I for one can appreciate a man who has a alot of a life and still finds a way to run his model and post his plays for the rest of the world to see. Obviously, there is a part of a person that wants to show his successful model to the world, but with that comes alot of risk that "shiet goes wrong", and brings haters out (Esp this year) and I can't thank the model guys enough for their work and efforts in this forum.
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                • Beef_Supreme
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 02-03-11
                  • 157

                  #1303
                  Keep up the good work bud. Your hard work is definitely not going unnoticed. Wish there was something we could do to make things easier for you but what you're doing is honorable to say the least. Thanks again and BOL the rest of the way
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                  • DeReezie
                    SBR Hustler
                    • 10-02-10
                    • 80

                    #1304
                    Originally posted by Beef_Supreme
                    Keep up the good work bud. Your hard work is definitely not going unnoticed. Wish there was something we could do to make things easier for you but what you're doing is honorable to say the least. Thanks again and BOL the rest of the way
                    Dido. Keep up the positive messages y'all. Folks like LGO are too far and too few in between. Big ups to your efforts LGO. Today reminds us it's a marathon not a sprint to greatness. Looking forward to tomorrow.
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                    • Lets go out
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 01-13-11
                      • 737

                      #1305
                      Tue recap.
                      Toledo
                      VA comm
                      seton hall
                      bradley
                      Buffalo
                      evansville push
                      odu
                      wisc gb
                      st john
                      unlv

                      worst night ever.......sorry
                      Lets get'em tonight
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                      • NYSportsGuy210
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-07-09
                        • 11347

                        #1306
                        Louisville (+1.5) at Cincinnatti.

                        Georgetown (+2) at Conn (lean here)
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                        • Lets go out
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 01-13-11
                          • 737

                          #1307
                          I havent looked real close yet but i was thinkin Cinn...im gonna try and get home early so i can take my time tonight
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                          • Heandog
                            SBR MVP
                            • 12-30-09
                            • 1634

                            #1308
                            LGO-- probally gonna get a lot of negative crap today because you only went 50/50 last nite LET IT ROLL.just keep doing what you do best and that is posting winners at a very high clip, thanks for all the time an effort you put in here very very time consuming,(OK now get to work on tonites card lol.)Good Luck
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                            • NYSportsGuy210
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 11-07-09
                              • 11347

                              #1309
                              Cincinatti has had a soft schedule though. They have yet to beat any teams of substance.
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                              • Lets go out
                                SBR Wise Guy
                                • 01-13-11
                                • 737

                                #1310
                                Originally posted by Heandog
                                LGO-- probally gonna get a lot of negative crap today because you only went 50/50 last nite LET IT ROLL.just keep doing what you do best and that is posting winners at a very high clip, thanks for all the time an effort you put in here very very time consuming,(OK now get to work on tonites card lol.)Good Luck
                                No worries from our team.....Losses are a gift knowledge wise for us....The negativity dosent bother me at all...i understand people being upset when they dont win money....i am as well.....we will take last nights info and use that to make better decisions in the future.....Every day is another day to log results and back check numbers....Our overall success makes it diffcult to make positive changes as we usually dont have negative things to look at.....I know most dont want to hear that but if some of you have the oppurtunity to develop a system like this you will see how important having negative results sometimes is to tweaking and refining it....
                                Dont get me wrong....my day is much eaiser when im staring at a 75% night.....but when the oppurtunity arises to gather information about the negative side i take it as a good thing for the system....we gain results ....and for us results are everything.......we shall see what tonight brings

                                LGO
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                                • Lets go out
                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                  • 01-13-11
                                  • 737

                                  #1311
                                  Originally posted by NYSportsGuy210
                                  Cincinatti has had a soft schedule though. They have yet to beat any teams of substance.
                                  Agreed....Thats why i leaned Cinn.....line looked suspicious to me..

                                  Gl tonight
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                                  • BrewMaster
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 12-03-10
                                    • 555

                                    #1312
                                    Originally posted by Lets go out
                                    No worries from our team.....Losses are a gift knowledge wise for us....The negativity dosent bother me at all...i understand people being upset when they dont win money....i am as well.....we will take last nights info and use that to make better decisions in the future.....Every day is another day to log results and back check numbers....Our overall success makes it diffcult to make positive changes as we usually dont have negative things to look at.....I know most dont want to hear that but if some of you have the oppurtunity to develop a system like this you will see how important having negative results sometimes is to tweaking and refining it....
                                    Dont get me wrong....my day is much eaiser when im staring at a 75% night.....but when the oppurtunity arises to gather information about the negative side i take it as a good thing for the system....we gain results ....and for us results are everything.......we shall see what tonight brings

                                    LGO

                                    Well said. 4-5-1 is not a horrible night either. We've all suffered worse nights. I'm feeling good about tonight as there is a better spread to pick from. I'm 90% confident I'll be drinking for a few of them tonight!
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                                    • jnsbanman
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 01-08-11
                                      • 526

                                      #1313
                                      No worries... Rock on!!
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                                      • bballs84
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 11-11-09
                                        • 5461

                                        #1314
                                        BOL today LGO looking forward to the card
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                                        • davus4
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 01-07-11
                                          • 262

                                          #1315
                                          "Tanks" a lot dude. Your crazy computer predictions saved me from another tragic night. (This is perhaps the 3rd or 4th time now!)
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                                          • Aussiecapper101
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 09-04-10
                                            • 2220

                                            #1316
                                            Originally posted by Lets go out
                                            Tue recap.
                                            Toledo
                                            VA comm
                                            seton hall
                                            bradley
                                            Buffalo
                                            evansville push
                                            odu
                                            wisc gb
                                            st john
                                            unlv

                                            worst night ever.......sorry
                                            Lets get'em tonight
                                            worst night ever? Ill take that as a worst night ever any day, keep it up man its not over until you go 3-15 lol
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                                            • PSABB
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 11-19-10
                                              • 198

                                              #1317
                                              Originally posted by Lets go out
                                              No worries from our team.....Losses are a gift knowledge wise for us....The negativity dosent bother me at all...i understand people being upset when they dont win money....i am as well.....we will take last nights info and use that to make better decisions in the future.....Every day is another day to log results and back check numbers....Our overall success makes it diffcult to make positive changes as we usually dont have negative things to look at.....I know most dont want to hear that but if some of you have the oppurtunity to develop a system like this you will see how important having negative results sometimes is to tweaking and refining it.... Dont get me wrong....my day is much eaiser when im staring at a 75% night.....but when the oppurtunity arises to gather information about the negative side i take it as a good thing for the system....we gain results ....and for us results are everything.......we shall see what tonight brings LGO
                                              Well said, LGO and also 100% correct. I'm continually tweaking the statistical models I use, and the losses always seem to provide more insight into what can make it better than the wins do...just the nature of the beast, I guess. But you're doing some fantastic work here and winning makes it all worth while.

                                              Also saw your earlier post about your day...I finally got around to automating most of my model about 2 years ago and saved a ton of time (at least in getting the raw data in). Not sure if yours can be done that way, but PM me if you want and I can bounce some stuff your way.

                                              Keep up the great work.
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                                              • PRiiMO
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 01-24-11
                                                • 565

                                                #1318
                                                EUOR BALL PLAYS FOR THIS AFTERNOON:

                                                Eurocup
                                                Göttingen - Aris UNDER 151.5

                                                Euroleague
                                                Zalgiris - Fenerbahce UNDER 150.5

                                                German BBL
                                                Braunschweig - GG Düsseldorf OVER 148.5

                                                im postin em in here cuz i dont remember their names again
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                                                • PRiiMO
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 01-24-11
                                                  • 565

                                                  #1319
                                                  LGO

                                                  what go on rude boy???
                                                  tuff night last night huh
                                                  if thats your worst night then i think your golden bro
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                                                  • AMcBoarder
                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                    • 01-03-09
                                                    • 342

                                                    #1320
                                                    Originally posted by Aussiecapper101
                                                    worst night ever? Ill take that as a worst night ever any day, keep it up man its not over until you go 3-15 lol
                                                    Agreed. I'll take your worst night ever over one of mine any day.
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                                                    • bkg sports
                                                      SBR Hustler
                                                      • 09-07-10
                                                      • 66

                                                      #1321
                                                      Hey Priimo, you confident in these plays?
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                                                      • Riot
                                                        Restricted User
                                                        • 04-16-09
                                                        • 437

                                                        #1322
                                                        they were money yesterday. Im on ! The one i played covered by like 30 points : )
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                                                        • GGZOLA
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 06-30-06
                                                          • 1118

                                                          #1323
                                                          gl today LGO
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                                                          • BigDofBA
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 09-30-09
                                                            • 19311

                                                            #1324
                                                            4-5-1 has to be the best worst night ever. An off night was bound to occur but 4-5 isn't really that bad at all.
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                                                            • bkg sports
                                                              SBR Hustler
                                                              • 09-07-10
                                                              • 66

                                                              #1325
                                                              ok, I'm juppin in to play these Euro ball plays

                                                              Good luck

                                                              Is there any way we can watch these on the net?
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                                                              • unclebuzz1
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 08-23-09
                                                                • 565

                                                                #1326
                                                                Originally posted by Lets go out
                                                                Tue recap.
                                                                Toledo
                                                                VA comm
                                                                seton hall
                                                                bradley
                                                                Buffalo
                                                                evansville push
                                                                odu
                                                                wisc gb
                                                                st john
                                                                unlv

                                                                worst night ever.......sorry
                                                                Lets get'em tonight
                                                                Worst night ever??? Not far from my best day ever!!!
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                                                                • Riot
                                                                  Restricted User
                                                                  • 04-16-09
                                                                  • 437

                                                                  #1327
                                                                  no, i cant find a place, but i googled them and i think they start in like an hour ish
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                                                                  • Muggy
                                                                    SBR Sharp
                                                                    • 07-24-10
                                                                    • 298

                                                                    #1328
                                                                    First night tailing last night, and I'll say, keep up the good work if that's your worst night. I've had plenty worse, thanks for the picks LGO.
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                                                                    • EasyCover
                                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                                      • 02-01-11
                                                                      • 621

                                                                      #1329
                                                                      Originally posted by Lets go out
                                                                      No worries from our team.....Losses are a gift knowledge wise for us....The negativity dosent bother me at all...i understand people being upset when they dont win money....i am as well.....we will take last nights info and use that to make better decisions in the future.....Every day is another day to log results and back check numbers....Our overall success makes it diffcult to make positive changes as we usually dont have negative things to look at.....I know most dont want to hear that but if some of you have the oppurtunity to develop a system like this you will see how important having negative results sometimes is to tweaking and refining it.... Dont get me wrong....my day is much eaiser when im staring at a 75% night.....but when the oppurtunity arises to gather information about the negative side i take it as a good thing for the system....we gain results ....and for us results are everything.......we shall see what tonight brings LGO

                                                                      If you keep that attitude you will be successful no matter what. And if that is your worst day (4-5) someone is going to knock on your door.
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                                                                      • bkg sports
                                                                        SBR Hustler
                                                                        • 09-07-10
                                                                        • 66

                                                                        #1330
                                                                        What time do these Euro games go off, in eastern time?
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