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  • PRiiMO
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 01-24-11
    • 565

    #1191
    LGO

    whats up bro. are you goin to post any NBA tonight?
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    • peteymal
      SBR Rookie
      • 08-03-09
      • 49

      #1192
      LGO any nba plays for ton?Thanks for the plays and good luck!
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      • DirkDiggs
        SBR Sharp
        • 12-07-10
        • 484

        #1193
        This system amazes me. I was on Seton Hall and VCU a bit, but I would not have bet on any of these other teams.

        Thanks for the enlightenment buddy. Good luck to all.

        Registering as a pro is very easy and probably worth it for you. Non pro's wont be able to give you more than 2 points, but pros will be able to give you whatever. I was going to hit you off with the 12 I have not in the Sportsbook. Plus, freeplays and sportsbook cash are significantly cheaper in the store.
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        • Riot
          Restricted User
          • 04-16-09
          • 437

          #1194
          Those euroleague picks were money tonight
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          • PRiiMO
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 01-24-11
            • 565

            #1195
            Originally posted by Riot
            Those euroleague picks were money tonight

            yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeea booooooooooooooooooooy

            hopefully have more tomorrow. altho there arent too many games but thursday there is a ton of em
            hopefully bud gives his plays up again
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            • Lets go out
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 01-13-11
              • 737

              #1196
              Im with Roch...I like the 76ers and the Pacers tonight....Im not making anything official though......
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              • rochestertitans
                Restricted User
                • 12-14-09
                • 8149

                #1197
                6ers roll.. im betting them and evansville
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                • rfr3sh
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 11-07-09
                  • 10229

                  #1198
                  i have teh same leans with 76ers and pacers good stuff
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                  • Bcatswin
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-21-10
                    • 13931

                    #1199
                    Man a little worried about that Wis GB vs Butler
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                    • davus4
                      SBR Sharp
                      • 01-07-11
                      • 262

                      #1200
                      Originally posted by firehoyt
                      Ok got word from SBR. Since LGO isn't a "pro" he cannot receive more than 2 donated points a day. So until he registers with SBR, we can't give him points.
                      points points points.
                      that's not true-- i just gave him 10 points the other day and a small bunch some while ago. i think your pre-Circa system has been running so awesome that you're suddenly receiving a flood of points which might have triggered some built in program/safety to disallow people from creating multiple accounts and awarding themselves many points per day. (??) maybe (??)
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                      • LockPickMaster
                        SBR MVP
                        • 02-15-09
                        • 1943

                        #1201
                        What is the line for the Sixers you are playing. +3 ?
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                        • davus4
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 01-07-11
                          • 262

                          #1202
                          d'oh .
                          Last edited by davus4; 02-15-11, 06:29 PM. Reason: double post
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                          • PlayTheSpread
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 02-05-11
                            • 516

                            #1203
                            Originally posted by Bcatswin
                            Man a little worried about that Wis GB vs Butler
                            Guess what...I was worried about the Marist pick a few days ago but it paid off. One thing I've learned with Circa is you have to leave emotions at the door. Every pick may not play out but a large majority will. This is why picking and choosing the games will get you in trouble. Of course there's a risk with every bet or it wouldn't be gambling. At the end of the day, it's all about money management.
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                            • DirkDiggs
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 12-07-10
                              • 484

                              #1204
                              Originally posted by davus4


                              points points points.
                              that's not true-- i just gave him 10 points the other day and a small bunch some while ago. i think your pre-Circa system has been running so awesome that you're suddenly receiving a flood of points which might have triggered some built in program/safety to disallow people from creating multiple accounts and awarding themselves many points per day. (??) maybe (??)
                              There were point rule changes. They were announced and went into effect on the 15th. I'm sure it is pinned to the top of the points sub forum.
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                              • sapidoc
                                SBR MVP
                                • 03-25-10
                                • 1273

                                #1205
                                Originally posted by davus4
                                points points points. that's not true-- i just gave him 10 points the other day and a small bunch some while ago. i think your pre-Circa system has been running so awesome that you're suddenly receiving a flood of points which might have triggered some built in program/safety to disallow people from creating multiple accounts and awarding themselves many points per day. (??) maybe (??)
                                Just the other day the rules changed.
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                                • rochestertitans
                                  Restricted User
                                  • 12-14-09
                                  • 8149

                                  #1206
                                  im playin 3.5 and the ml wont need the points
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                                  • rochestertitans
                                    Restricted User
                                    • 12-14-09
                                    • 8149

                                    #1207
                                    my gom was on bobcats +5.5 and ml yesterday.. my PoY is on the blazers on the 23rd
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                                    • 1andOnly
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 02-12-11
                                      • 31

                                      #1208
                                      They changed the point system. There is talk of shutting down threads. There are threats of turning off personal messaging for people. The site is just falling apart...
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                                      • firehoyt
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 12-02-10
                                        • 3569

                                        #1209
                                        Key wordsin my statement "I talked with SBR". So yeah it's true....unfortunately.

                                        Originally posted by davus4
                                        points points points.
                                        that's not true-- i just gave him 10 points the other day and a small bunch some while ago. i think your pre-Circa system has been running so awesome that you're suddenly receiving a flood of points which might have triggered some built in program/safety to disallow people from creating multiple accounts and awarding themselves many points per day. (??) maybe (??)
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                                        • firehoyt
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 12-02-10
                                          • 3569

                                          #1210
                                          Originally posted by 1andOnly
                                          They changed the point system. There is talk of shutting down threads. There is threats of turning off personal messaging for people. The site is just falling apart...

                                          Whaaaaaaaaa?!?!?!?! If it's not broke, dont fix it. If they shut down the threads we have nothing. No way to earn points therefore no reason to have the SB or Casino. Don't see em shutting down the threads.......
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                                          • Hoja Verdes
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 08-23-06
                                            • 1403

                                            #1211
                                            I want to make it crystal clear that I wish LGO all the best, and congratulate him on his incredible run over the past couple weeks. Basically hitting 70% over 100 plays. Very small sample size still, but still an impressive feat nonetheless. Given that a system like this needs 1,000 plays or so to begin to settle into a reliable expected win %, it is still VERY possible that it could continue to hit at 70% throughout the rest of the season. From what I can gather, the basis of the system is KenPom stats, which is of course much more sound than the data a lot of guys use to come up with 'flash in the pan' systems around here all the time. So again, I want to congratulate LGO on a tremendous run and hope he continues to win over the hearts and minds of SBR. With that being said...and meaning no disrespect at all...I decided to fade the system tonight at 2x per game. Again...with such a small sample size thus far, he could very likely continue to pound out winners like it's going out of style. But with no net loss days yet, I'm of the humble and respectful opinion that the system is long overdue for a visit from Mr. Variance. Knock Knock.
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                                            • Lets go out
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 01-13-11
                                              • 737

                                              #1212
                                              Originally posted by LockPickMaster
                                              What is the line for the Sixers you are playing. +3 ?
                                              yeah + 3 for me I gotta head out for a little.....be back before 830 and letcha know about the late game
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                                              • Lets go out
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 01-13-11
                                                • 737

                                                #1213
                                                Originally posted by Hoja Verdes
                                                I want to make it crystal clear that I wish LGO all the best, and congratulate him on his incredible run over the past couple weeks. Basically hitting 70% over 100 plays. Very small sample size still, but still an impressive feat nonetheless. Given that a system like this needs 1,000 plays or so to begin to settle into a reliable expected win %, it is still VERY possible that it could continue to hit at 70% throughout the rest of the season. From what I can gather, the basis of the system is KenPom stats, which is of course much more sound than the data a lot of guys use to come up with 'flash in the pan' systems around here all the time. So again, I want to congratulate LGO on a tremendous run and hope he continues to win over the hearts and minds of SBR. With that being said...and meaning no disrespect at all...I decided to fade the system tonight at 2x per game. Again...with such a small sample size thus far, he could very likely continue to pound out winners like it's going out of style. But with no net loss days yet, I'm of the humble and respectful opinion that the system is long overdue for a visit from Mr. Variance. Knock Knock.
                                                Well said......And very possible

                                                GL LGO
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                                                • sosume
                                                  SBR Hustler
                                                  • 02-12-11
                                                  • 57

                                                  #1214
                                                  I speculate (based on observation) that the Circa system is not for gamblers or what I call "squares" per se. It's for sharp people that understand why and how the "house" wins. Squares think that they win or lose based on "luck". Sharp folks know that they win or lose based on skill...analyzing the math and other "influencing" factors. Not playing rivalry games would be considered an "influencing factor". Squares think that the house wins because they are "lucky". The house wins because they have a mathematical house edge. If you play parlay tickets, you are a gambler. If you make staraight bets, you are playing with less of a "house advantage" than those that make parlay wagers. If you make straight bets, then use math and other "infulencing factors", it is entirely possible that you may have effectively turned the tables on the house and "crossed the road" and become a "sharp" player. It (so far) appears that the Circa system is enabling squares to play like sharps, if they choose to. Even the house knows that they dont win every bet that they offer. "I would rather be lucky than smart, but watch out for the smart guy that happens to get lucky! BOL to all...
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                                                  • PAYTON20
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 02-02-10
                                                    • 5217

                                                    #1215
                                                    Originally posted by Lets go out
                                                    Tough card tonight.....Vegas is real sharp......That said...

                                                    Plays for TUE. 2/15

                                                    Toledo +14
                                                    Seton Hall +4
                                                    Evansville +6
                                                    Bradley +2'
                                                    Va Comm pk
                                                    Buffalo -8'
                                                    ODU -15
                                                    Wisc. GB +4

                                                    Mabey one more before 9
                                                    GL LGO
                                                    LGO if I were going to tail the card. Would you recommend buying points to get to the spread you listed? For instance I have Buffalo -8.5. Bet it at -8.5 or buy to -8 (-120). Or VA Comm is -1.5, bet it at that or buy to pk em (-140), or just leave alone?
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                                                    • Bcatswin
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 12-21-10
                                                      • 13931

                                                      #1216
                                                      Originally posted by PlayTheSpread
                                                      Guess what...I was worried about the Marist pick a few days ago but it paid off. One thing I've learned with Circa is you have to leave emotions at the door. Every pick may not play out but a large majority will. This is why picking and choosing the games will get you in trouble. Of course there's a risk with every bet or it wouldn't be gambling. At the end of the day, it's all about money management.

                                                      Don't get me wrong, im still going on it...Just a little weary of it...lol
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                                                      • sapidoc
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 03-25-10
                                                        • 1273

                                                        #1217
                                                        Originally posted by Hoja Verdes
                                                        I want to make it crystal clear that I wish LGO all the best, and congratulate him on his incredible run over the past couple weeks. Basically hitting 70% over 100 plays. Very small sample size still, but still an impressive feat nonetheless. Given that a system like this needs 1,000 plays or so to begin to settle into a reliable expected win %, it is still VERY possible that it could continue to hit at 70% throughout the rest of the season. From what I can gather, the basis of the system is KenPom stats, which is of course much more sound than the data a lot of guys use to come up with 'flash in the pan' systems around here all the time. So again, I want to congratulate LGO on a tremendous run and hope he continues to win over the hearts and minds of SBR. With that being said...and meaning no disrespect at all...I decided to fade the system tonight at 2x per game. Again...with such a small sample size thus far, he could very likely continue to pound out winners like it's going out of style. But with no net loss days yet, I'm of the humble and respectful opinion that the system is long overdue for a visit from Mr. Variance. Knock Knock.
                                                        Respect. Take notice SBR: This is how you fade picks. Not after the game, not when a poster's picks go 0-8 on the night. Before the fkin tip.

                                                        Anyway, good luck with your plan and again thanks for sharing before the games conclude.

                                                        My thoughts: If you flip a coin on the picks tonight you are 50-50 to hit em all anyway. So anything off of your coinflips is real variance. Just cause the roulette wheel goes red 10 times doesn't mean its any better to play black.

                                                        Adding to the fact that he's hit 70%ish I would tend to think this "virtual wheel" is maybe biased towards his side of the picks. If he's posting +EV plays then its +EV plays.

                                                        Even if you think the system's true winrate is 60% and he's hitting 70% it is always incorrect to fade the plays. Think about it.
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                                                        • Jax
                                                          SBR Rookie
                                                          • 09-15-10
                                                          • 16

                                                          #1218
                                                          Good Luck tonight. On them with ya!
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                                                          • asdfghasdfgh
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 01-27-11
                                                            • 359

                                                            #1219
                                                            Originally posted by Hoja Verdes
                                                            I want to make it crystal clear that I wish LGO all the best, and congratulate him on his incredible run over the past couple weeks. Basically hitting 70% over 100 plays. Very small sample size still, but still an impressive feat nonetheless. Given that a system like this needs 1,000 plays or so to begin to settle into a reliable expected win %, it is still VERY possible that it could continue to hit at 70% throughout the rest of the season. From what I can gather, the basis of the system is KenPom stats, which is of course much more sound than the data a lot of guys use to come up with 'flash in the pan' systems around here all the time. So again, I want to congratulate LGO on a tremendous run and hope he continues to win over the hearts and minds of SBR. With that being said...and meaning no disrespect at all...I decided to fade the system tonight at 2x per game. Again...with such a small sample size thus far, he could very likely continue to pound out winners like it's going out of style. But with no net loss days yet, I'm of the humble and respectful opinion that the system is long overdue for a visit from Mr. Variance. Knock Knock.
                                                            I respect your opinion, but I think "the system should lose eventually because it's been so successful" is gambler's fallacy at its finest. Of course, you could be right and I'll look like some idiot spouting psychological drivel.

                                                            Best of luck to both of us. I tailed LGO's plays lightly, erring on the side of caution despite the success the system has had.
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                                                            • LockPickMaster
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 02-15-09
                                                              • 1943

                                                              #1220
                                                              Originally posted by PAYTON20
                                                              LGO if I were going to tail the card. Would you recommend buying points to get to the spread you listed? For instance I have Buffalo -8.5. Bet it at -8.5 or buy to -8 (-120). Or VA Comm is -1.5, bet it at that or buy to pk em (-140), or just leave alone?
                                                              I would get the line LGO has or buy points.
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                                                              • reformed
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 11-18-10
                                                                • 1384

                                                                #1221
                                                                posts similar to what verdes typed makes me wonder if people understand simple probability. The past results have no bearing on the future so lets assume you think the hit rate of the system over the long haul is 58%. Its stupid to assume that to make up for the fact that it went 70% over the first 100 it will go 45% over the next 100.
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                                                                • sapidoc
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 03-25-10
                                                                  • 1273

                                                                  #1222
                                                                  Originally posted by PAYTON20
                                                                  LGO if I were going to tail the card. Would you recommend buying points to get to the spread you listed? For instance I have Buffalo -8.5. Bet it at -8.5 or buy to -8 (-120). Or VA Comm is -1.5, bet it at that or buy to pk em (-140), or just leave alone?
                                                                  I thought LGO had it -8.5 also.... -8' = -8.5
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                                                                  • LockPickMaster
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 02-15-09
                                                                    • 1943

                                                                    #1223
                                                                    Originally posted by reformed
                                                                    posts similar to what verdes typed makes me wonder if people understand simple probability. The past results have no bearing on the future so lets assume you think the hit rate of the system over the long haul is 58%. Its stupid to assume that to make up for the fact that it went 70% over the first 100 it will go 45% over the next 100.
                                                                    I just want to make a million dollars before the system crashes.
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                                                                    • ncsubowen
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 02-12-11
                                                                      • 1227

                                                                      #1224
                                                                      Originally posted by sapidoc
                                                                      I thought LGO had it -8.5 also.... -8' = -8.5
                                                                      Only in so much as a -8 still gets a push. No chance of that with an 8.5.
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                                                                      • sapidoc
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 03-25-10
                                                                        • 1273

                                                                        #1225
                                                                        Originally posted by ncsubowen
                                                                        Only in so much as a -8 still gets a push. No chance of that with an 8.5.
                                                                        wtf?
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