Does Rebatewager round all bets down?

**wtf** · 10-15-10, 08:52 PM

come on jj get your free 100 points

post photo of you hold todays local vegas paper

come fuker

**jjgold** · 10-15-10, 08:54 PM

WTF these guys bet parlays

I am flashing $25,000 in cash in Vegas

I do not bet parlays

Who is the winner?

**nosniboR11** · 10-15-10, 08:56 PM

good luck jj

**sharpcat** · 10-15-10, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Guys are such stupid fuks here

Mathy is correct

Dont bet parlays there then

What is the fukkin big deal

The big deal is if the website said 3 team parlays pay 5-1 than no big deal but clearly stating 6-1 and paying 5-1 is freerolling

This paired with the severe rounding down on payouts shows a deceptive pattern, when a wager pays 100.99 and you get paid 100 you just got took for a dollar.

These are the oldest tricks in the book and it is unacceptable.

You and Mathy can shill all you want for your measly free plays but this is wrong and you both I assumed were hip enough to the game to realize this.

**str** · 10-15-10, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Guys are such stupid fuks here

Mathy is correct

Dont bet parlays there then

What is the fukkin big deal

I think the big deal is that if they are "all that" and offer 6-1 and round down .95 to 5-1 they are scamming people. He is just sharp enough to catch it.
If that is the case , no matter who it is, it is wrong.

**jjgold** · 10-15-10, 08:59 PM

They should upgrade software to cater to $5 bettors
Software a ways back was not designed for all these nickle and dimers looking for pennies

Cris/Bookmaker did rounding for years and years

**Fishhead** · 10-15-10, 09:00 PM

I've enjoyed my stay at Rebatewager...........

**str** · 10-15-10, 09:02 PM

Yes they should. If they want to except a bet of that size ,they should do the right thing .
The amount should never come into play. The fairness should, IMO.

**KKoz9** · 10-15-10, 09:10 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

Guys are such stupid fuks here

Mathy is correct

Dont bet parlays there then

What is the fukkin big deal

I think the point is...if parlays are listed as paying 6 to 1, then they SHOULD PAY 6 to 1...not whether you think

parlays are a good play, how much is being wagered, or how much you supposedly are "flashing" in Vegas

.

**Flight** · 10-15-10, 09:14 PM

Don't yell at me for voicing my opinion please...

but I do wish RW would stop rounding.

**sharpcat** · 10-15-10, 09:18 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

I've enjoyed my stay at Rebatewager...........

Mostly due to the fact that blackie lets you intentionally dump off your balance by taking large underdogs and scalping them at another shop and continue to earn your rebates in exchange for your shilling services.

Just the other day you bashed RW and stated that your limits had been cut ironically Blackie reinstated your limits and you are right back on the shill train

You claim to be an advocate for the player but all you do is shill and try to manipulate the young fools on here to go buy up your offer at MB so you can scalp it.

You know as well as I do that this is shady business going down at RW and I am appalled that you would back this crap for a measly rebate.

**iifold** · 10-15-10, 09:21 PM

Seems like Sharpcat is making good arguments here..

May have to get Kings Corner involved in this investigation..

**wal66** · 10-15-10, 09:24 PM

Sharpcat, I just went and tested this. I placed a 3-Teamer at -110 lines $10 to win $60. My word might not mean anything to you but I don't have a history of lying to anyone.

For the record I do get compensated for writing a daily blog at RebateWager. Onner would have mentioned this so I want to steal his thunder.

**Sam Odom** · 10-15-10, 09:28 PM

Flying down to CR Monday to straighten out Rebatewager

Taking the same airplane JJ took to Las Vegas

**pavyracer** · 10-15-10, 09:28 PM

If you don't like the book it's pretty simple. Don't play there. They steal change or don't offer advertised parlay odds then kiss them goodbye. It's not like they are the only option to play.

**str** · 10-15-10, 09:31 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

If you don't like the book it's pretty simple. Don't play there. They steal change or don't offer advertised parlay odds then kiss them goodbye. It's not like they are the only option to play.

Not the principle is it?
Other guy is getting mugged,screw it ,I won't help.

**frizzelli** · 10-15-10, 09:31 PM

I really think the Giants pitchers can shut down the big bats of the Phill............................wait a second wrong thread............JJ 4 life that is all

**jjgold** · 10-15-10, 09:35 PM

**DrStale** · 10-15-10, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

If you don't like the book it's pretty simple. Don't play there. They steal change or don't offer advertised parlay odds then kiss them goodbye. It's not like they are the only option to play.

The point, Pavy, is that people trust SBR's ratings for different sportsbooks. If SBR is indeed rating a book highly that is in essence stealing people's money then something obviously needs to be done.

**sharpcat** · 10-15-10, 09:36 PM

Originally posted by wal66

Sharpcat, I just went and tested this. I placed a 3-Teamer at -110 lines $10 to win $60. My word might not mean anything to you but I don't have a history of lying to anyone.

For the record I do get compensated for writing a daily blog at RebateWager. Onner would have mentioned this so I want to steal his thunder.

Well so far I have noticed several posters point out 5-1 odds on 3 teamers and you and Pokernutt who is a known RW shill have pointed out 6-1.

I do not play with RW they do not have much to offer my interests so I can not accurately confirm this myself but I have to lean toward the 5-1 after Blackies confession to the software rounding all bets down to whole dollar amounts. These recent reports are long in between the original reports so it is also possible that RW made a mad scramble to cover up their thievery before anymore damage was done.

I will not discredit your claim but this needs further investigation and until I have solid reason to believe otherwise I am leaning toward the lesser payout.

Regardless the rounding down issue is still theft and even Donald Trump would not be happy to find out that someone was scrapping him for pennies.

**pavyracer** · 10-15-10, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by str

Not the principle is it?
Other guy is getting mugged,screw it ,I won't help.

I have no beef with Blackie. I mostly play soccer. I asked him last summer during WC why his lines are so shitty for soccer and he said he doesn't care about soccer bettors. So I told him I won't be playing at your book.

It's pretty simple for me. If the book doesn't cater to your needs simply don't play there. Play at the book who caters to your needs.

**pavyracer** · 10-15-10, 09:40 PM

Originally posted by DrStale

The point, Pavy, is that people trust SBR's ratings for different sportsbooks. If SBR is indeed rating a book highly that is in essence stealing people's money then something obviously needs to be done.

I think SBR should investigate the complaints and downgrade if needed. Their silence in this matter leads me to believe they don't want to lose a sponsor with fat pockets. So they are basically pressured here to make a call or risk alienating their loyal posters.

**Fishhead** · 10-15-10, 09:43 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

I think SBR should investigate the complaints and downgrade if needed. Their silence in this matter leads me to believe they don't want to lose a sponsor with fat pockets. So they are basically pressured here to make a call or risk alienating their loyal posters.

It may have something to do with the RW girls...........

**Fishhead** · 10-15-10, 09:45 PM

Originally posted by sharpcat

Mostly due to the fact that blackie lets you intentionally dump off your balance by taking large underdogs and scalping them at another shop and continue to earn your rebates in exchange for your shilling services.

Just the other day you bashed RW and stated that your limits had been cut ironically Blackie reinstated your limits and you are right back on the shill train

You claim to be an advocate for the player but all you do is shill and try to manipulate the young fools on here to go buy up your offer at MB so you can scalp it.

You know as well as I do that this is shady business going down at RW and I am appalled that you would back this crap for a measly rebate.

You are tremendously incorrect on many accounts here..........

Bash the book, not me.

Proceed

**str** · 10-15-10, 09:46 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

I have no beef with Blackie. I mostly play soccer. I asked him last summer during WC why his lines are so shitty for soccer and he said he doesn't care about soccer bettors. So I told him I won't be playing at your book.

It's pretty simple for me. If the book doesn't cater to your needs simply don't play there. Play at the book who caters to your needs.

I do not either nor do I have an account or anything to do with them or this other than reading what Sharp has to say. From all I see , he is right and no one can refute it.
If that is indeed the case,that is sad.

**sharpcat** · 10-15-10, 09:46 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

I think SBR should investigate the complaints and downgrade if needed. Their silence in this matter leads me to believe they don't want to lose a sponsor with fat pockets. So they are basically pressured here to make a call or risk alienating their loyal posters.

Important decision here, their fat pocket sponsor may not have such a big wallet for long if they lose the ability to steal from players and lose current players and future players to a scandal.

SBR can only prop a book up for so long if it is scamming its players the prop is hopeless and is bound to fail if the book does not attempt to build a solid foundation.

**Fishhead** · 10-15-10, 09:48 PM

Originally posted by sharpcat

Important decision here, their fat pocket sponsor may not have such a big wallet for long if they lose the ability to steal from players and lose current players and future players to a scandal.

SBR can only prop a book up for so long if it is scamming its players the prop is hopeless and is bound to fail if the book does not attempt to build a solid foundation.

Without question RW has or will be losing many customers over the developments that have occurred over the past few days.

**SoCalFisher** · 10-15-10, 09:50 PM

Originally posted by Sam Odom

Taking the same airplane JJ took to Las Vegas

Doesnt that layover in vegas, for a minute? Pay a visit to gold while your there.

**big joe 1212** · 10-15-10, 09:51 PM

Originally posted by Sam Odom

Taking the same airplane JJ took to Las Vegas

**sharpcat** · 10-15-10, 09:54 PM

Originally posted by str

I do not either nor do I have an account or anything to do with them or this other than reading what Sharp has to say. From all I see , he is right and no one can refute it.
If that is indeed the case,that is sad.

Nor do I have an account with them but I am very active in seeing this industry regulated and as of now we the players seem to be the only ones who can see to it that uneducated players are not getting scammed.

Scam shops do nothing but cast a dark shadow on the industry.

If a book wants to skim pennies and offer poor odds so be it but at least make it clear to the player that you are skimming off the top and most definately pay the odds that you claim will be paid.

If they are paying 5-1 and are advertising 6-1 they could at least list it as 6 for 1 so that they are only being deceitful and not flat out being dishonest.

It pisses me off to hear of a book especially a rec book dealing with uneducated players pulling scams.

**shari91** · 10-15-10, 09:54 PM

Originally posted by jjgold

They should upgrade software to cater to $5 bettors
Software a ways back was not designed for all these nickle and dimers looking for pennies

Cris/Bookmaker did rounding for years and years

Quit with this Cris and Bookmaker bullshit in every damn thread about this RW issue. It's irrelevant what they did in the past unless they're still doing it today. The whole point with technological advances is that you have the choice to keep up and correct an erroneous practice that may have been deemed acceptable in the past. A book owner also has the choice to not bother because the outdated technology favours him/her or they don't have the funds to update their software platform.

Not everyone on this forum, or those who only pop in for book reviews and never sign up, are big time bettors. Just because they aren't, they shouldn't be subject to having information withheld from them when they're making a decision as to where to deposit their cash.

**pavyracer** · 10-15-10, 09:57 PM

Good luck! JJ took a UFO to Vegas.

**Brock Landers** · 10-15-10, 09:58 PM

Thats like the wonder woman plan thats invisible

**sharpcat** · 10-15-10, 09:59 PM

Originally posted by Fishhead

Without question RW has or will be losing many customers over the developments that have occurred over the past few days.

Apologize for snapping at you Fish but the experienced gamblers here need to look out for the unexperienced guys.

These young guys are already going to lose they do not need a book skimming money from them on top of their losses, you know as well as I do that RW deals with 80-90% square players.

This is wrong I hope RW can straighten this out but it is going to take a long time before I see this book as honorable.

**Fishhead** · 10-15-10, 10:04 PM

Originally posted by sharpcat

Apologize for snapping at you Fish but the experienced gamblers here need to look out for the unexperienced guys.

These young guys are already going to lose they do not need a book skimming money from them on top of their losses, you know as well as I do that RW deals with 80-90% square players.

This is wrong I hope RW can straighten this out but it is going to take a long time before I see this book as honorable.

Let's see how Blackie and CO. respond to the two main issues confronting them right now............shortchanging players and the parlay issue.