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  • alling
    SBR MVP
    • 05-13-10
    • 1405

    #12181
    Joe Biden is best president ever. More spending please. Vote Democrat. Thanks. Signed shorts sellers.
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    • JIBBBY
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 12-10-09
      • 83686

      #12182
      Let the crash begin! Thank you Joe Biden for spending and causing inflation to continue to rise once again! The high inflation report that came out today spooked investors. That is what is causing this crash.
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      • d2bets
        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
        • 08-10-05
        • 39994

        #12183
        Originally posted by JIBBBY
        Let the crash begin! Thank you Joe Biden for spending and causing inflation to continue to rise once again! The high inflation report that came out today spooked investors. That is what is causing this crash.
        Crashed all the way back to levels not seen since...checks notes...last week.
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        • RangeFinder
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 10-27-16
          • 8041

          #12184
          I bought more Apple shares today. What a discount, lol.
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          • Fishhead
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 08-11-05
            • 40179

            #12185
            The country is dying on so many fronts.
            VERY SAD
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            • Fishhead
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 08-11-05
              • 40179

              #12186
              Originally posted by JIBBBY
              Let the crash begin! Thank you Joe Biden for spending and causing inflation to continue to rise once again! The high inflation report that came out today spooked investors. That is what is causing this crash.
              He's a complete baffoon the likes of which we've never seen before.
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              • RangeFinder
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 10-27-16
                • 8041

                #12187
                Originally posted by Fishhead
                The country is dying on so many fronts.
                VERY SAD
                Yes it has, but, we have an election coming that can reverse things quite dramatically. Then when 2024 hits, take the Presidency back.

                Never should have lost it in the first place.
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                • Fishhead
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 08-11-05
                  • 40179

                  #12188
                  Originally posted by RangeFinder
                  Yes it has, but, we have an election coming that can reverse things quite dramatically. Then when 2024 hits, take the Presidency back.

                  Never should have lost it in the first place.
                  Would be great to see, but not likely.
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                  • homie1975
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 12-24-13
                    • 15452

                    #12189
                    not a fan of this POTUS by any stretch but the factors that affect the market are so much more than the POTUS policy whether R or L.
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                    • homie1975
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 12-24-13
                      • 15452

                      #12190
                      Originally posted by RangeFinder
                      I bought more Apple shares today. What a discount, lol.
                      Yasssss!

                      this is the way to do it.
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                      • RangeFinder
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 10-27-16
                        • 8041

                        #12191
                        Futures are up right now in all indices. Let's hope for a good open to jump in and out of a quick trade.
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                        • Slurry Pumper
                          SBR MVP
                          • 06-18-18
                          • 2811

                          #12192
                          Originally posted by d2bets
                          Crashed all the way back to levels not seen since...checks notes...last week.
                          SPY came right back down to a trend line that was produced with the most recent lows. I would not be surprised to see a bounce here. The QQQs are driving the bus however after finally getting above that very same trendline made from recent lows for only 2 days, its right back below.
                          One of my favorite indicators $DJT had a chance to close above a gap fill today but didn't, this is a tell in my book of lower prices to come but wouldn't be surprised to see some big movement in both directions this week because of the quad option expiration thing.

                          My sell the rip feeling that started today is on hold for a few days here, as the entire potential downside play was done today. Now with indices sitting around the trendlines, it will be a wait and see with hair triggers for any direction I see going into the end of the week.
                          So pretty much just day trading lightly for me going forward.
                          Still have some long term Puts in both the SPY and QQQ that don't expire until just before December.
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                          • RangeFinder
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 10-27-16
                            • 8041

                            #12193
                            Originally posted by Slurry Pumper
                            SPY came right back down to a trend line that was produced with the most recent lows. I would not be surprised to see a bounce here. The QQQs are driving the bus however after finally getting above that very same trendline made from recent lows for only 2 days, its right back below.
                            One of my favorite indicators $DJT had a chance to close above a gap fill today but didn't, this is a tell in my book of lower prices to come but wouldn't be surprised to see some big movement in both directions this week because of the quad option expiration thing.

                            My sell the rip feeling that started today is on hold for a few days here, as the entire potential downside play was done today. Now with indices sitting around the trendlines, it will be a wait and see with hair triggers for any direction I see going into the end of the week.
                            So pretty much just day trading lightly for me going forward.
                            Still have some long term Puts in both the SPY and QQQ that don't expire until just before December.
                            It's just a matter of a short time period where markets will ignore the macro conditions. I think next week we see a trend up. For the rest of this week ( you mentioned the options expiring on Friday), I think it's going to be choppy. So your in and out trades might work pretty good.
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                            • rkelly110
                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                              • 10-05-09
                              • 39691

                              #12194
                              Originally posted by RangeFinder
                              Yes it has, but, we have an election coming that can reverse things quite dramatically. Then when 2024 hits, take the Presidency back.

                              Never should have lost it in the first place.
                              He'll have to use your sharpie to have a write in vote 'cause he won't even make the ticket. Watch he'll run as an independent so you can get some use out of that sharpie.
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                              • Slurry Pumper
                                SBR MVP
                                • 06-18-18
                                • 2811

                                #12195
                                Well yesterday, I bought some Calls (Strike $392) that expire tomorrow and next Friday. Just looking for a little pop here for the ones that expire on Friday and maybe a continuation into next week if things start back up the mountain. On Tuesday the SPY came down to a trend line, and yesterday we got a doji candle stick on the daily chart. Looking for the SPY to get to and stay above $395.25. First on 10, 15 and 30 minute candle sticks before I add to the position while knowing that there is significant resistance at the $397 area.
                                As always and especially this week, I got my hand on the trigger incase things start to go south. Getting below $393.50 on those 10,15,and 30 minute candle closes will be enough for me to leave and take what would be a tiny little profit.
                                The real line in the sand is the low from yesterday at $391ish. Below that and we will see $390 again and then the $388.50 which is a yet unclosed gap from a while ago. If we find the market down there. It will more than likely be a good support spot creating a rebound of some sort of at least intraday trend change.
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                                • RangeFinder
                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                  • 10-27-16
                                  • 8041

                                  #12196
                                  Bought a call on SPY but got my hand on the trigger like you, Slur. I trust this market like not at all. There is a lot of money on the sidelines and I'm hoping it gets pt to work, but that may be waiting for another dip. Some weak hands may get washed out and send this thing lower again so I'm own the button if I see Spy hit 392ish. You have your line at 391, but close enough. A real gamble today. I hate it, but it is what it is.

                                  I put in a Oct 7 383 Call. Delta 70. Should be safe, kinda, lol.
                                  Last edited by RangeFinder; 09-15-22, 08:01 AM.
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                                  • Yulia74
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 08-28-18
                                    • 1907

                                    #12197
                                    thinking about hiring an intern who's awake at night for market updates

                                    female
                                    18-21
                                    athletic
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                                    • d2bets
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 08-10-05
                                      • 39994

                                      #12198
                                      Originally posted by Yulia74
                                      thinking about hiring an intern who's awake at night for market updates

                                      female
                                      18-21
                                      athletic
                                      "market updates".
                                      Does she have to be attentive to detail?
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                                      • milwaukee mike
                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                        • 08-22-07
                                        • 26914

                                        #12199
                                        Originally posted by RangeFinder
                                        Bought a call on SPY but got my hand on the trigger like you, Slur. I trust this market like not at all. There is a lot of money on the sidelines and I'm hoping it gets pt to work, but that may be waiting for another dip. Some weak hands may get washed out and send this thing lower again so I'm own the button if I see Spy hit 392ish. You have your line at 391, but close enough. A real gamble today. I hate it, but it is what it is.

                                        I put in a Oct 7 383 Call. Delta 70. Should be safe, kinda, lol.
                                        if that cash can make 3-4% safely then the stock market is a tougher sell than the recent past

                                        past 10 yrs or so have been spoiled because there was no other place to go with cash and get a return

                                        with rates over 6% housing has to crash at some point, right? people can't even afford their rent, let alone 30k in annual interest for an average home
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                                        • milwaukee mike
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 08-22-07
                                          • 26914

                                          #12200
                                          looks like fedex taking the market down another notch

                                          sept/oct every 7 years (shemitah) are the danger zone

                                          1973
                                          1980
                                          1987
                                          1994
                                          2001
                                          2008
                                          not 2015
                                          2022

                                          every one of those years, the market had an ugly situation in sept/oct, including some real doozies like the crash of 1987, 9/11/01, and the financial crisis of 2008... history doesn't necessarily repeat itself but it often rhymes
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                                          • Slurry Pumper
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 06-18-18
                                            • 2811

                                            #12201
                                            Yesterday after the 3rd time bumping up against the $395 area I sold those calls took the hint and bought some PUTS. Then late in the day when we got near that $388.50ish spot there was indeed an end of the day bounce back to 390. I didn't participate in that bounce and this morning it looks like things are ready to gap down to end the week.
                                            I know several of you are looking at that big ass juicy head and shoulders pattern that is at the current time making a play with the right shoulder having closed below the neck line yesterday. So is it down to $325 on the S&P for next week? Maybe, but be careful today as it is still the quad expiration for the options, and a out of nowhere rescue operation can be in the cards. In fact a good spot for a shakeout shimmy is between $385 - $382.50. If you see the SPY down there this morning and it doesn't seem like it is going down any more, it may be a spot where the paramedics will show up with a defibrillator and jump start a short squeeze into the weekend curtesy of the trick, trap, fool, and fuk you sideways crew.

                                            My favorite leading indicators $DJT, and IWM both had relative strength yesterday although they were down a little bit. But both indices are above the neck line of the head and shoulders trend line and have a little space to give on the way down. I see the setup with the markets set to gap down pretty good.
                                            My plan is to unload some of those PUTS from yesterday right off the opening run down and actually buy some out of the money calls this morning with the strike price right at my pivot line from yesterday of $391. Right now they are listed at $1.47, but with the expiration being later today, and the 30 point drop in hte SPY this morning, I expect to be able to pick these up sub $0.50. So that means for $1000, I can control 2000 shares (potentially) of the SPY and if there is a rescue operation, and with the expiration later today, I'll really only need a slight bump to more than double the bet and get rid of the Puts with a profit as well. With a full on rescue operation, it could be a big winner and those Puts I have left would be sold before the profits go negative. If it all goes to shyt and the markets tank into the weekend, I just hold on to the PUTs I already have and cash those in later today with a hefty gain and lose the $1000 on the calls.
                                            Last edited by Slurry Pumper; 09-16-22, 06:59 AM.
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                                            • Yulia74
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-28-18
                                              • 1907

                                              #12202
                                              BREAKING:

                                              FEDEX SHARES SINK 21% AFTER COMPANY WITHDRAWS FORECAST, WARNS OF worldwide recession


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                                              • Yulia74
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 08-28-18
                                                • 1907

                                                #12203
                                                Originally posted by d2bets
                                                "market updates".
                                                Does she have to be attentive to detail?
                                                no..
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                                                • rkelly110
                                                  BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                  • 10-05-09
                                                  • 39691

                                                  #12204
                                                  Originally posted by Yulia74
                                                  BREAKING:

                                                  FEDEX SHARES SINK 21% AFTER COMPANY WITHDRAWS FORECAST, WARNS OF worldwide recession


                                                  Link?
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                                                  • guitarjosh
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 12-25-07
                                                    • 5774

                                                    #12205
                                                    Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                    Link?
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                                                    • rkelly110
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 10-05-09
                                                      • 39691

                                                      #12206
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                                                      • milwaukee mike
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 08-22-07
                                                        • 26914

                                                        #12207
                                                        Originally posted by Slurry Pumper
                                                        Yesterday after the 3rd time bumping up against the $395 area I sold those calls took the hint and bought some PUTS. Then late in the day when we got near that $388.50ish spot there was indeed an end of the day bounce back to 390. I didn't participate in that bounce and this morning it looks like things are ready to gap down to end the week.
                                                        I know several of you are looking at that big ass juicy head and shoulders pattern that is at the current time making a play with the right shoulder having closed below the neck line yesterday. So is it down to $325 on the S&P for next week? Maybe, but be careful today as it is still the quad expiration for the options, and a out of nowhere rescue operation can be in the cards. In fact a good spot for a shakeout shimmy is between $385 - $382.50. If you see the SPY down there this morning and it doesn't seem like it is going down any more, it may be a spot where the paramedics will show up with a defibrillator and jump start a short squeeze into the weekend curtesy of the trick, trap, fool, and fuk you sideways crew.

                                                        My favorite leading indicators $DJT, and IWM both had relative strength yesterday although they were down a little bit. But both indices are above the neck line of the head and shoulders trend line and have a little space to give on the way down. I see the setup with the markets set to gap down pretty good.
                                                        My plan is to unload some of those PUTS from yesterday right off the opening run down and actually buy some out of the money calls this morning with the strike price right at my pivot line from yesterday of $391. Right now they are listed at $1.47, but with the expiration being later today, and the 30 point drop in hte SPY this morning, I expect to be able to pick these up sub $0.50. So that means for $1000, I can control 2000 shares (potentially) of the SPY and if there is a rescue operation, and with the expiration later today, I'll really only need a slight bump to more than double the bet and get rid of the Puts with a profit as well. With a full on rescue operation, it could be a big winner and those Puts I have left would be sold before the profits go negative. If it all goes to shyt and the markets tank into the weekend, I just hold on to the PUTs I already have and cash those in later today with a hefty gain and lose the $1000 on the calls.
                                                        did you make out on that friday comeback?

                                                        i was still pretty buried... with all my junk bonds and preferred stocks, the past month has been my worst ever... lost more in a month than i ever made working in a 3-year stretch

                                                        even at 3% on the 30-year treasury, this country is eventually bankrupt just off of the interest, not sure how rates can go much higher unless it's all intentional destruction
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                                                        • ByeShea
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 06-30-08
                                                          • 8083

                                                          #12208
                                                          Originally posted by homie1975
                                                          not a fan of this POTUS by any stretch but the factors that affect the market are so much more than the POTUS policy whether R or L.
                                                          Some big factors that blew up in the whole country's face have been mishandled by the POTUS. Inflation being a chief one - and the Biden administration is big time at fault for the inflation we see today. And he wanted trillions more dollars printed than what he did - it's shocking.
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                                                          • jeffchitown
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-21-16
                                                            • 1859

                                                            #12209
                                                            I have a controversial theory that Biden isn’t allowing mass illegal immigration because he is caring. He is being paid off by companies to do so for cheap labor. It will help bring down inflation but it will also increase the burden on America because we end up having to pay for a lot of these illegal immigrants whether through healthcare or even in schools. It will also probably increase unemployment for citizens. It will in the end help companies the most which will help the stock market later.
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                                                            • rkelly110
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 10-05-09
                                                              • 39691

                                                              #12210
                                                              Originally posted by ByeShea
                                                              Some big factors that blew up in the whole country's face have been mishandled by the POTUS. Inflation being a chief one - and the Biden administration is big time at fault for the inflation we see today. And he wanted trillions more dollars printed than what he did - it's shocking.
                                                              You realize the whole world has big inflation, right? Joe must be the boss of all of them.
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                                                              • guitarjosh
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 12-25-07
                                                                • 5774

                                                                #12211
                                                                Originally posted by rkelly110
                                                                You realize the whole world has big inflation, right? Joe must be the boss of all of them.
                                                                Kind of like the whole world had Covid in 2020 and had a recession in 2008, but you no problem blaming the GOP presidents.
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                                                                • Slurry Pumper
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 06-18-18
                                                                  • 2811

                                                                  #12212
                                                                  Originally posted by milwaukee mike
                                                                  did you make out on that friday comeback?

                                                                  i was still pretty buried... with all my junk bonds and preferred stocks, the past month has been my worst ever... lost more in a month than i ever made working in a 3-year stretch

                                                                  even at 3% on the 30-year treasury, this country is eventually bankrupt just off of the interest, not sure how rates can go much higher unless it's all intentional destruction
                                                                  Well it wasn't that bad, I bought calls for $0.12 when the SPY stopped the morning rush, and sold half the PUTS. Then the markets went to sleep. At around 2 pm I unloaded everything. Lost about $500 on those calls but made much more on the PUTS.
                                                                  Next week will be interesting with the FED coming out to play.
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                                                                  • RangeFinder
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 10-27-16
                                                                    • 8041

                                                                    #12213
                                                                    Originally posted by Slurry Pumper
                                                                    Well it wasn't that bad, I bought calls for $0.12 when the SPY stopped the morning rush, and sold half the PUTS. Then the markets went to sleep. At around 2 pm I unloaded everything. Lost about $500 on those calls but made much more on the PUTS.
                                                                    Next week will be interesting with the FED coming out to play.
                                                                    I expect some more carnage next week. I will open Monday with Puts on Spy. I will buy them a month out but plan on unloading by weeks end profit or not. I think heading toward October we are going to a real battle to keep Spy at 380. We will see a bounce back to the near 400 mark, but then the way back down. Maybe late October early November will be an entry point for some long positions again. We can only hope.
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                                                                    • rkelly110
                                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                      • 10-05-09
                                                                      • 39691

                                                                      #12214
                                                                      Originally posted by guitarjosh
                                                                      Kind of like the whole world had Covid in 2020 and had a recession in 2008, but you no problem blaming the GOP presidents.
                                                                      You really gonna go there Josh? Bush didn't foresee shit and was too late in stimulus money. Your boy lied from day one about the virus.
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                                                                      • Slurry Pumper
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 06-18-18
                                                                        • 2811

                                                                        #12215
                                                                        Originally posted by RangeFinder
                                                                        I expect some more carnage next week. I will open Monday with Puts on Spy. I will buy them a month out but plan on unloading by weeks end profit or not. I think heading toward October we are going to a real battle to keep Spy at 380. We will see a bounce back to the near 400 mark, but then the way back down. Maybe late October early November will be an entry point for some long positions again. We can only hope.
                                                                        Yeah a dump in the markets seems likely to me. I bought Puts that expire in late November when the strike was at $410 on par a few weeks ago. I expect possibly a new low before another bear market rally going into the election. The 390 trend line pause the last few weeks was expected. Now we have the head and shoulders play going. I'm not a big believer in the head and shoulders but if it plays out to 325 in the next couple weeks, that will certainly get some peoples attention.
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