Raptors are only+165 to win the series vs Philly

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  • Snowball
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    • 11-15-09
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    #141
    everyone will be on Toronto now
    and then what
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    • EGrecu
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      • 09-15-21
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      #142
      Originally posted by thetrinity
      If there’s coach and player duo that can pull this off, it’s the one in philly.


      I was thinking exactly the same thing


      I also think Toronto is a better team without FVV. Much much better defensively
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      • budwiser
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        • 11-22-11
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        #143
        Doc has blown three 3 1 leads

        But this would exceed them all. 3 0
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        • Mac4Lyfe
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          • 01-04-09
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          #144
          Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
          Who are you going to count on when the going get's tough? Choker Harden? Choker Embiid? Or perennial choker Doc Rivers??? Toronto may not win the series but I'll be damned if I ever bet on those 3 dick smokers.
          Bumping this for when Philly and their band of chokers lose in game 7...
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          • Mac4Lyfe
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            • 01-04-09
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            #145
            Originally posted by budwiser
            Doc has blown three 3 1 leads

            But this would exceed them all. 3 0
            The one and only Doc Rivers, James Harden and Joel Embiid. They can feel their nuts in their throats right about now.
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            • budwiser
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              • 11-22-11
              • 3226

              #146
              Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe
              The one and only Doc Rivers, James Harden and Joel Embiid. They can feel their nuts in their throats right about now.
              The can always see a shrink about it postseason. Take some time, no distractions. Get away from it all. Maybe see a movie, go to one of those banyas get a massage
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              • budwiser
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                • 11-22-11
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                #147
                Doc would never again coach in the NBA. We all know that. Steve Nash never should have coached in the first place, we all know that too. if Steve nash was black they would have called him an idiot long ago.
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                • lakerboy
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                  • 04-02-09
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                  #148
                  Philly opened-2.5 in game 6 at BOL
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                  • Snowball
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                    • 11-15-09
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                    #149
                    Originally posted by budwiser
                    Doc would never again coach in the NBA. We all know that. Steve Nash never should have coached in the first place, we all know that too. if Steve nash was black they would have called him an idiot long ago.
                    Doc should have sat Embiid last game. Embiid is the key. What he was tonight, not himself, not in the paint..
                    he's injured and it's not Doc's fault. But Doc really should sit him next game in Toronto, empty the bench
                    and bring him back after some rest for a final Gm7 rather than do anything like tonight again.
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                    • budwiser
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                      • 11-22-11
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                      #150
                      Originally posted by Snowball
                      Doc should have sat Embiid last game. Embiid is the key. What he was tonight, not himself, not in the paint..
                      he's injured and it's not Doc's fault. But Doc really should sit him next game in Toronto, empty the bench
                      and bring him back after some rest for a final Gm7 rather than do anything like tonight again.
                      Yeah it's just bad news. The guy is fragile. Maybe Doc is pressing it. Maybe that's his problem, who knows.
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                      • budwiser
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                        • 11-22-11
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                        #151
                        Originally posted by lakerboy
                        Philly opened-2.5 in game 6 at BOL
                        Wonder what the series is now as everybody starts piling on the Raptors at +400 or whatever it's going to be
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                        • lakerboy
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                          • 04-02-09
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                          #152
                          Originally posted by lakerboy
                          Philly opened-2.5 in game 6 at BOL
                          Quickly down to -2
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                          • Snowball
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                            • 11-15-09
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                            #153
                            Barkley just said Philly has NO CHANCE Thursday
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                            • d2bets
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                              #154
                              Originally posted by Snowball
                              Barkley just said Philly has NO CHANCE Thursday
                              I saw that. He just nerfed Toronto.
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                              • lakerboy
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                                • 04-02-09
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                                #155
                                Originally posted by lakerboy
                                Quickly down to -2
                                Wait -1.5
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                                • lakerboy
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                                  • 04-02-09
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                                  #156
                                  Originally posted by Snowball
                                  Barkley just said Philly has NO CHANCE Thursday
                                  Shaq said Philly will sweep tor before the series.
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                                  • Rich Boy
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                                    • 02-01-09
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                                    #157
                                    Barkley bigger mush than Seaweed

                                    Thankfully for Raps fans this is Doc Rivers
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                                    • Snowball
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                                      • 11-15-09
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                                      #158
                                      Originally posted by d2bets
                                      I saw that. He just nerfed Toronto.
                                      I hope so. lol
                                      Harden will go off with a triple double
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                                      • Snowball
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                                        • 11-15-09
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                                        #159
                                        Originally posted by lakerboy
                                        Shaq said Philly will sweep tor before the series.
                                        and they would have if Embiid didn't tear a ligament
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                                        • lakerboy
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                                          • 04-02-09
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                                          #160
                                          Originally posted by Snowball
                                          and they would have if Embiid didn't tear a ligament
                                          If if if.
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                                          • Mac4Lyfe
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                                            • 01-04-09
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                                            #161
                                            Originally posted by Snowball
                                            and they would have if Embiid didn't tear a ligament
                                            Philly should have lost game 3. Toronto totally gave them that game. But it setup the biggest epic choke in NBA history.
                                            Originally posted by lakerboy
                                            Wait -1.5
                                            Down to -1.5 at Heritage. I got Toronto +2 already.
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                                            • Snowball
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                                              • 11-15-09
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                                              #162
                                              I'm probably going to hedge out of my Philly series bet for some profit.
                                              Focus on GSW and take Boston next series.
                                              It's not justfiable the way Embiid is to depend on Philly
                                              Harden needed to step up tonight.
                                              I'll check the odds tomorrow
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                                              • scorpion896
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                                                • 11-05-20
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                                                #163
                                                Originally posted by d2bets
                                                Sixers have zero chance against Miami. Zero.
                                                So you will go all-in on Miami then yes? Will you post your ticket?

                                                100% of hitting according to you, you better be going massive on it otherwise you just all talk.
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                                                • stevenash
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                                                  • 01-17-11
                                                  • 65592

                                                  #164
                                                  Toronto opens up 1.5 home bow-wow Thursday night.
                                                  Scotiabank is going to real noisy.
                                                  I'll bite, Raptors +1.5 for me.
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                                                  • budwiser
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                                                    • 11-22-11
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                                                    #165
                                                    My take is Raptors to win the series of nothing, as I said earlier here I never trust a Canadian team as favorites (=1.5 is close enough to favorite)

                                                    But, as people have seen I've been a big mush here, so if you fade take the 6ers to win the series.

                                                    It's still a live bet for me, to win small, incredibly enough. And I said Embiid might get hurt any minute now. If you throw enough darts you eventually hit the board.
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                                                    • budwiser
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                                                      • 11-22-11
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                                                      #166
                                                      If you want to know why taking a Canadian team as a favorite in basketball is a bad idea, just look at what Steve Nash did with the Nets.

                                                      If anyone can understand that, my guess is something about you is Canadian.
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                                                      • IBetYou
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                                                        • 07-03-15
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                                                        #167
                                                        I thought you'd quit lol. You made a comeback?

                                                        Steve Nash is not the reason the Nets got swept, and neither is Irving. The blame lies solely at the feet of Simmons. If you think they could have played Griffin at the 4 and Drummond at the 5 you're living in the past. Never been a fan of Griffin, though he was perhaps the Nets' best centre in this series. People blame Rivers or Paul for those Clippers meltdowns but that other guy was the main reason.
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                                                        • IBetYou
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                                                          #168
                                                          I have the Pels - talented team - knocking off the Suns. People will call Paul a choker if it happens
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                                                          • jjgold
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                                                            • 07-20-05
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                                                            #169
                                                            Phila looks done
                                                            Harden lol epic loser
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                                                            • budwiser
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                                                              • 11-22-11
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                                                              #170
                                                              Originally posted by IBetYou
                                                              I thought you'd quit lol. You made a comeback?

                                                              Steve Nash is not the reason the Nets got swept, and neither is Irving. The blame lies solely at the feet of Simmons. If you think they could have played Griffin at the 4 and Drummond at the 5 you're living in the past. Never been a fan of Griffin, though he was perhaps the Nets' best centre in this series. People blame Rivers or Paul for those Clippers meltdowns but that other guy was the main reason.
                                                              yeah I figured i could still chat. but no plays.

                                                              we will never know, but yeah i blame nash. they have outside shooting in Duratn, they had a spot up shooter in curry, a penetrator in irving, griffin at the 4 to set screens get rebounds play permiter d give you size (which they needed all series), and drummond/claxton at center

                                                              That is a balanced lineup.

                                                              What they had out there, 4 guards playing a big team, never worked. In the history of basketball, I'm unaware of it working.

                                                              Playing 2 bigger guys instead of small ball all the time? Despite 300 combinations, he never ONCE tried it. It's like I said, at least try to do it, if it doesn't work ok. But for this guy, who tries 20 different combinations a game, he never tried THAT. THE most normal lineup he could possibly put out there. It had to be about Steve Nash all the time.

                                                              Explain how Drummond plays 4 minutes and sits on the bench all game. Explain the Girffin/Claxton/Drummond rotation. Explain how he subs out Griffin in the last minute on defense, only to put him back in in the last minute.

                                                              Explain how in basketball, it works to put 200 different combinations out there during the year, and every game is a new combination. Explain how that works in a sport where knowing where your teammate is at all times/instinct is absolutely critical to team success.

                                                              So yeah, I put the #1 blame on him. Simmons was ready to come back, but not to this team. They would have had an elite defender. Is Simmons an a ss yeah.

                                                              They got a 6'10" elite small forward, but he doesn't have muscle. They needed muscle in the worst way. They were getting physically manhandled all series, and every game they broke down physically at the end.
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                                                              • budwiser
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                                                                • 11-22-11
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                                                                #171
                                                                The stats don't lie. The starting lineups

                                                                Celtics Tatum 6'8", Horford 6'9", Theis 6'8", J Brown 6'6", Smart 6"3', nobody 6'10" or over but tall and physically strong players who can hound perimeter guys

                                                                Nets Durant 6'10" (tall but skinny), Brown 6'4", Drummond 6'10" (got 4 minutes never played again), Irving 6'2", Curry 6'2"

                                                                off the bench for the celts was a guy who replaced the biggest player on the Nets Drummond (Claxton or Blake), and then 6'3" Dragic, 6'1" Mills

                                                                There are lengthy guys who can rebound-but kyrie can't rebound, neither can curry or brown. you are relying on one guy/center, and durant who is supposed to play offense.

                                                                When Blake Griffin was on the floor last night, the Nets were +10.

                                                                LaMarcus Aldridge, who couldn't get 3 seconds of playing time, is 6'11" 250 lb power forward/center. Last time this guy played was April 6, he got 3 minutes and permanently entered Nash's dog house. He has more height than every Celtic player, couldn't get a minute.

                                                                The Nets got physically manhandled, chewed up, and spit out

                                                                The most bizarre was the interview with Nash after the 3q, he even admitted his team was getting killed on the boards and manhandled. So the reporter asked him why did he go with a small lineup in the 3q (Celtics won the 3q 32 to 28). He said it's because there wouldn't be spacing to allow KD and Kyrie to penetrate. Don't you know having more guards playing the same position, can't go interior causes spacing issues? It's like playing defensive football on a dime/secondary formation every play-you just run the ball all the time, physically defeat the other team.

                                                                It is what it is-even if they win last night they lose the series. They were done, period. You can't play a team that is decidedly taller and stronger than you by choice. Anyone in basketball knows you have to have bigs. With only 1 big the entire series long, where the Celtics had 4, they Celtics just turned it on in the 2nd half and beat the living s hit out of the Nets. You tell me how a team with Kyrie and KD gets swept in the 1st round. I guess because the rest of the players suck, or they suck, or something-it's GOT to be something else

                                                                From @BrooklynNetscast twitter:
                                                                Steve Nash tonight: Had to have Seth Curry tell him he needed to be on the bench because he had 3 fouls early Ran 4 players 6’4 and under vs the biggest team in the NBA Has yet to touch a piece of paper or board to draw a play Get him out of here
                                                                And yet amazingly, Nash's job I read is safe. Obviously the GM and owner are on another page.

                                                                One more note we have about Nash's lack of communication skills as a coach. Here is Nash postgame talking about how much better the team will be when they get back an injured player and a guy who refused to play even though he could (talk about taking a s hit on your current guys, if only I had these guys I coulda done better):
                                                                “Yeah. I loved doing this and love these guys, love my staff, love all the departments. Really have a great working environment, really enjoyed it and want to continue doing it,” Nash said. “Ben Simmons and Joe Harris will give us a big lift and we’ll see how the rest of the roster rounds out, but we should be excited by that. Getting two of your top four guys back — two guys with size, one who’s an All-Star and one who’s one of the best shooters in the league — that gives us a big boost. "
                                                                You have got to be kidding me he's talking about how BEN SIMMONS IS GOING TO COME IN AND SAVE THIS TEAM AFTER WHAT SIMMONS PULLED
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                                                                • budwiser
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                                                                  • 11-22-11
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                                                                  #172
                                                                  Originally posted by IBetYou
                                                                  I have the Pels - talented team - knocking off the Suns. People will call Paul a choker if it happens
                                                                  Well obviously no Booker. They're not really the Suns anymore without the guy. So it's hard to blame Chris Paul if they lose, I would think. With Booker yeah Paul the choker. jmo

                                                                  like i said i have no plays current other than the raptors to win the series at +900. took a chance on doc blowing another series lead when the 6ers were up 2 0
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                                                                  • budwiser
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                                                                    • 11-22-11
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                                                                    #173
                                                                    Back to the 6ers series, the Raptors are +500 to win the series vs the 6ers
                                                                    5x your money if Doc blows another series. With a hurt Embiid and an out of shape Harden.
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                                                                    • EGrecu
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                                                                      • 09-15-21
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                                                                      #174
                                                                      Originally posted by budwiser
                                                                      Back to the 6ers series, the Raptors are +500 to win the series vs the 6ers
                                                                      5x your money if Doc blows another series. With a hurt Embiid and an out of shape Harden.
                                                                      Don't forget an extremely confident and inspired Toronto team

                                                                      Torontos defense has been unreal last 2 games. Whats crazy is they have one guy now who is below 6-7 and Gary Trent at at 6-5. Everyone else they play is a very athletic 6'7 to 6'9 and they're just playing fantastic defense
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                                                                      • d2bets
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                                                                        • 08-10-05
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                                                                        #175
                                                                        Originally posted by budwiser
                                                                        Back to the 6ers series, the Raptors are +500 to win the series vs the 6ers
                                                                        5x your money if Doc blows another series. With a hurt Embiid and an out of shape Harden.
                                                                        Interesting. Game 6 Tor is +100 so that implies if Tor wins Game 6 that they'd be +300 in Game 7..meaning another -8 spread. If Toronto wins 3 straight they're still going to catch +8/+300?

                                                                        Actually I see +590 at Fanduel. That's pretty crazy. That's +345 Game 7.
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