2020 Election. The State by State Odds and MATH

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  • jt315
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-12-11
    • 21807

    #1716
    Originally posted by CWD
    This is what no doubt had his handler’s ripping the retard from his basement .
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    • pavyracer
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 04-12-07
      • 82624

      #1717
      • [*=left]Sep. 5: Trump’s momentum has been staunched. His odds went from -117 to -116. Biden improved from -106 to -109.

        [*=left]Aug. 31: Trump’s uptick continued and he is now favored over Biden (-117 to -106, on average)

        [*=left]Aug. 28: The candidates are now almost dead-even. Biden is -115 on average. Trump is -110.
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      • Judge Crater
        SBR MVP
        • 10-05-20
        • 2024

        #1718
        Keep going
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        • JohnGalt2341
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 12-31-09
          • 9138

          #1719
          Originally posted by lakerboy
          That's why the odds to win pa were+400 three weeks ago and are now+160 right?
          In post #1 on June 26th Biden was -265 in PA and now he's -200. So yeah, it's changed but I don't remember seeing anything as dramatic as your post above. Maybe I missed it when this happened. But as far I could tell, PA has remained fairly steady for the last 4 months or so.
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          • RoyBacon
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 09-21-05
            • 37074

            #1720
            Originally posted by Judge Crater
            @NateSilver538
            17hIf the polls aren't tightening since the debate—and with 62 million people having voted—we're sort of getting to the point where the only way Trump can win is with a major polling error, bigger than in 2016 (or if the election is stolen somehow).


            @NateSilver538
            Actually Trump's odds (12%) are quite close to the chances of catching an inside straight (9%), low but still well within the realm of normal things you see in any poker session, and not the much less likely thing you are describing (0.3%).(Also, who plays draw poker anymore?)










            Maybe those are his numbers if the game was played today. This is super complex and that actual MOE is realistically 5%+/-.

            That takes you from drawing for an inside straight to hitting any pair on the river.

            If you stumble back on 2016 the same people said the exact same thing looking at almost the exact same data. Kind of spooky.
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            • jt315
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 11-12-11
              • 21807

              #1721
              Our new @trafalgar_group #2020Election#BattlegroundState#PApoll conducted Oct 24-25 shows undecided shrinking and a narrow Trump lead for the first time:

              48.4%
              @realDonaldTrump


              47.6%
              @JoeBiden


              2.2%
              @Jorgensen4POTUS


              0.7% Other

              1.0% Und. See Report:
              https://thetrafalgargroup.org/news/pa-pres-102520/



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              • RudyRuetigger
                SBR Aristocracy
                • 08-24-10
                • 65084

                #1722
                In Florida, 1,508,165 voters who didn't cast a ballot in 2016 have already voted in the 2020 general election.Registered Dems have an 11.7% advantage among these surge voters, almost triple their 4.3% lead with those early voters who did vote in '16.
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                • pavyracer
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 04-12-07
                  • 82624

                  #1723
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                  • Mike Huntertz
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 08-19-09
                    • 11207

                    #1724
                    Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
                    In post #1 on June 26th Biden was -265 in PA and now he's -200. So yeah, it's changed but I don't remember seeing anything as dramatic as your post above. Maybe I missed it when this happened. But as far I could tell, PA has remained fairly steady for the last 4 months or so.
                    I've been watching 538 for a while and PA has always been 2-7% Biden. If I saw(which I didn't) +400 I would have jumped on Trump.
                    Not saying some obscure book didn't put it out, but not 5D, Pinnacle, BetChris.
                    That would be a live dog of which I would have already hedged.
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                    • Judge Crater
                      SBR MVP
                      • 10-05-20
                      • 2024

                      #1725
                      This is the pollster who Robocalls only land lines, they also ask the responders how their neighbors are voting.

                      To their credit, they alone hit in Michigan and PA in 2016 ( also predicted Trump would win the popular vote )
                      In the 2018 midterms, they got destroyed in almost all their predictions. They predicted the Republican's would pick up house seats (they lost 41 seats)

                      The poll below has Trump winning 49.9% of the 18-24 vote.


                      Originally posted by jt315
                      Our new @trafalgar_group #2020Election#BattlegroundState#PApoll conducted Oct 24-25 shows undecided shrinking and a narrow Trump lead for the first time:

                      48.4%
                      @realDonaldTrump


                      47.6%
                      @JoeBiden


                      2.2%
                      @Jorgensen4POTUS


                      0.7% Other

                      1.0% Und. See Report:
                      https://thetrafalgargroup.org/news/pa-pres-102520/



                      Last edited by Judge Crater; 10-27-20, 11:35 AM.
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                      • vitterd
                        Restricted User
                        • 09-14-17
                        • 58460

                        #1726
                        Originally posted by jt315
                        Our new @trafalgar_group #2020Election#BattlegroundState#PApoll conducted Oct 24-25 shows undecided shrinking and a narrow Trump lead for the first time:

                        48.4%
                        @realDonaldTrump


                        47.6%
                        @JoeBiden


                        2.2%
                        @Jorgensen4POTUS


                        0.7% Other

                        1.0% Und. See Report:
                        https://thetrafalgargroup.org/news/pa-pres-102520/



                        Lmao
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                        • jt315
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 11-12-11
                          • 21807

                          #1727
                          Originally posted by vitterd
                          Lmao

                          Feel free to post those polls showing Biden with double PA leads .

                          Guess who had to get ripped from his basement and had to defend himself after his disastrous debate on Thursday ?

                          But by all means . Please take the air out of the ball and try to run out the clock.
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                          • vitterd
                            Restricted User
                            • 09-14-17
                            • 58460

                            #1728
                            Originally posted by jt315
                            Feel free to post those polls showing Biden with double PA leads .

                            Guess who had to get ripped from his basement and had to defend himself after his disastrous debate on Thursday ?

                            But by all means . Please take the air out of the ball and try to run out the clock.
                            You find the one fake poll that has trump up one point. Perhaps that cuck with the bow tie might wanna look at the numbers and stop making shit up. He will disappear just like you after Tuesday. The beating is underway.

                            Leave and never come back!!
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                            • jt315
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 11-12-11
                              • 21807

                              #1729
                              Originally posted by vitterd
                              You find the one fake poll that has trump up one point. Perhaps that cuck with the bow tie might wanna look at the numbers and stop making shit up. He will disappear just like you after Tuesday. The beating is underway.

                              Leave and never come back!!
                              You don’t have any balls to post your Biden huge PA lead polls pee squatter .

                              The beast told Joe yesterday you better get your ass out of this basement and to Pa and start ‘splaining yo self !
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                              • vitterd
                                Restricted User
                                • 09-14-17
                                • 58460

                                #1730
                                Originally posted by jt315
                                You don’t have any balls to post your Biden huge PA lead polls pee squatter .

                                The beast told Joe yesterday you better get your ass out of this basement and to Pa and start ‘splaining yo self !
                                I posted the early numbers. It’s a beating. It’s a massive beating!! I posted the early voting numbers. They are bigger than the polls!
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                                • burdman
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 10-13-20
                                  • 140

                                  #1731
                                  Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
                                  The complete lack of self awareness from the Trump cult is astonishing.

                                  Might be the smartest person on SBR. A bunch of racist trumpers that think they know everything couldn’t be more wrong over and over
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                                  • RudyRuetigger
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 08-24-10
                                    • 65084

                                    #1732
                                    Originally posted by vitterd
                                    Leave and never come back!!
                                    i can actually picture you saying that


                                    i bet you stomped your foot and crossed your arms too







                                    what a fukkin soyboy
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                                    • burdman
                                      SBR High Roller
                                      • 10-13-20
                                      • 140

                                      #1733
                                      Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                      i can actually picture you saying that


                                      i bet you stomped your foot and crossed your arms too







                                      what a fukkin soyboy
                                      Nobody is laughing but you
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                                      • vitterd
                                        Restricted User
                                        • 09-14-17
                                        • 58460

                                        #1734
                                        Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                        i can actually picture you saying that


                                        i bet you stomped your foot and crossed your arms too







                                        what a fukkin soyboy
                                        You’re a drunk fool and Id pound your empty melon.
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                                        • ByeShea
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 06-30-08
                                          • 8074

                                          #1735
                                          Biggest difference between 2016 and today is that Hillary, while her rallies were sparsely attended and few and far between, wasn't confined to her basement most of the last month of the election.

                                          Somehow it's different now.... riiiiiighhhhtt.



                                          <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">RCP battleground poll average:<br><br>𝗢𝗰𝘁. 𝟮𝟵, 𝟮𝟬𝟭𝟲<br>• Florida: (Tied)<br>• Pennsylvania: Clinton +5.6<br>• Michigan: +7<br>• Wisc: +6.2<br>• NC: +3.2<br><br>𝗧𝗼𝗱𝗮𝘆<br>• Florida: Biden +1.2<br>• Pennsylvania: +5.1<br>• Michigan: +7.8<br>• Wisc: +4.6<br>• NC: +1.5<br><br>👉🏻 <a href="https://t.co/ZBRpAvXwZT">https://t.co/ZBRpAvXwZT</a> <a href="https://t.co/GZmTCAxlSI">https://t.co/GZmTCAxlSI</a></p>&mdash; Frank Luntz (@FrankLuntz) <a href="https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1320172303984934915?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >October 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                                          • RudyRuetigger
                                            SBR Aristocracy
                                            • 08-24-10
                                            • 65084

                                            #1736
                                            Originally posted by vitterd
                                            You’re a drunk fool and Id pound your empty melon.
                                            Posts: 40,093



                                            show me one useful one
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                                            • vitterd
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 09-14-17
                                              • 58460

                                              #1737
                                              Originally posted by ByeShea
                                              Biggest difference between 2016 and today is that Hillary, while her rallies were sparsely attended and few and far between, wasn't confined to her basement most of the last month of the election.

                                              Somehow it's different now.... riiiiiighhhhtt.



                                              <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">RCP battleground poll average:<br><br>𝗢𝗰𝘁. 𝟮𝟵, 𝟮𝟬𝟭𝟲<br>• Florida: (Tied)<br>• Pennsylvania: Clinton +5.6<br>• Michigan: +7<br>• Wisc: +6.2<br>• NC: +3.2<br><br>𝗧𝗼𝗱𝗮𝘆<br>• Florida: Biden +1.2<br>• Pennsylvania: +5.1<br>• Michigan: +7.8<br>• Wisc: +4.6<br>• NC: +1.5<br><br>👉🏻 <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/ZBRpAvXwZT">https://t.co/ZBRpAvXwZT</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/GZmTCAxlSI">https://t.co/GZmTCAxlSI</a></p>&mdash; Frank Luntz (@FrankLuntz) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1320172303984934915?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >October 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
                                              This is why you are always wrong. 2016 was a referendum on Hillary, 2020 is a referendum on trump. This is nothing like 2016. Biden lead has been stable. He hits 50 percent in a number of battleground, trump doesn’t hit 50 in any. You have no idea what you’re in for next week.
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                                              • vitterd
                                                Restricted User
                                                • 09-14-17
                                                • 58460

                                                #1738
                                                Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                Posts: 40,093



                                                show me one useful one
                                                The one you just quoted.
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                                                • RudyRuetigger
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 08-24-10
                                                  • 65084

                                                  #1739
                                                  Originally posted by vitterd
                                                  The one you just quoted.
                                                  you democrats are so fukkin clueless


                                                  i feel bad for you


                                                  i bet you are 60 year old hippy, 140lb soaking wet with no guns


                                                  yet want to defund the police


                                                  best of luck bro


                                                  im not going to lie, a part of me wants biden to win just to see you guys get absolutely fukked over
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                                                  • KVB
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 05-29-14
                                                    • 74817

                                                    #1740
                                                    LMAO, keep watching those lines fellas.

                                                    A lot of betting with your heart and political opinions in here. That’s like being a sports fan and trying to meaningfully gamble on your team.

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                                                    • RudyRuetigger
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 08-24-10
                                                      • 65084

                                                      #1741
                                                      Originally posted by KVB
                                                      LMAO, keep watching those lines fellas.

                                                      A lot of betting with your heart and political opinions in here. That’s like being a sports fan and trying to meaningfully gamble on your team.

                                                      Lines dont matter


                                                      why?


                                                      Because they dont allow state parlays

                                                      this is a low level prop
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                                                      • Judge Crater
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 10-05-20
                                                        • 2024

                                                        #1742
                                                        “Political malpractice”: Veteran GOP pollster Frank Luntz calls the Donald Trump re-election effort the "worst campaign I’ve ever seen."


                                                        If you can post something from someone not being paid by the GOP about Trump being ahead or tied, that's information we could use.

                                                        Originally posted by ByeShea
                                                        Biggest difference between 2016 and today is that Hillary, while her rallies were sparsely attended and few and far between, wasn't confined to her basement most of the last month of the election.

                                                        Somehow it's different now.... riiiiiighhhhtt.



                                                        <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">RCP battleground poll average:<br><br>헢헰혁. ퟮퟵ, ퟮퟬퟭퟲ<br>• Florida: (Tied)<br>• Pennsylvania: Clinton +5.6<br>• Michigan: +7<br>• Wisc: +6.2<br>• NC: +3.2<br><br>헧헼헱헮혆<br>• Florida: Biden +1.2<br>• Pennsylvania: +5.1<br>• Michigan: +7.8<br>• Wisc: +4.6<br>• NC: +1.5<br><br> <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/ZBRpAvXwZT">https://t.co/ZBRpAvXwZT</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/GZmTCAxlSI">https://t.co/GZmTCAxlSI</a></p>&mdash; Frank Luntz (@FrankLuntz) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1320172303984934915?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >October 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
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                                                        • RudyRuetigger
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 08-24-10
                                                          • 65084

                                                          #1743
                                                          Quit quoting dumbasses...here was Frank Luntz on election night 2016:


                                                          In case I wasn't clear enough from my previous tweets:Hillary Clinton will be the next President of the United States. #ElectionNight





                                                          6:43 PM · Nov 8, 2016 from Manhattan, NY·Twitter for iPhone


                                                          Frank Luntz



                                                          @FrankLuntz

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                                                          • JohnGalt2341
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 12-31-09
                                                            • 9138

                                                            #1744
                                                            Originally posted by ByeShea
                                                            Biggest difference between 2016 and today is that Hillary, while her rallies were sparsely attended and few and far between, wasn't confined to her basement most of the last month of the election.

                                                            Somehow it's different now.... riiiiiighhhhtt.



                                                            <blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">RCP battleground poll average:<br><br>헢헰혁. ퟮퟵ, ퟮퟬퟭퟲ<br>• Florida: (Tied)<br>• Pennsylvania: Clinton +5.6<br>• Michigan: +7<br>• Wisc: +6.2<br>• NC: +3.2<br><br>헧헼헱헮혆<br>• Florida: Biden +1.2<br>• Pennsylvania: +5.1<br>• Michigan: +7.8<br>• Wisc: +4.6<br>• NC: +1.5<br><br> <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/ZBRpAvXwZT">https://t.co/ZBRpAvXwZT</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/GZmTCAxlSI">https://t.co/GZmTCAxlSI</a></p>&mdash; Frank Luntz (@FrankLuntz) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1320172303984934915?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >October 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
                                                            Look at the voter turnout prices from BetOnline below.

                                                            Voter Turnout in the U.S Presidential Election

                                                            01:00 PM

                                                            Over 149.5 million voters
                                                            -225

                                                            Under 149.5 million voters
                                                            +160




                                                            Voter Turnout in the U.S. Presidential Election

                                                            01:00 PM

                                                            Over 60.5 %
                                                            -150

                                                            Under 60.5 %
                                                            +110





                                                            Does that look the same or different than 2016?

                                                            Here's a link for you to look it up.



                                                            Scroll down to "Turnout Statistics" in the link above. Do you see a difference between 2020 and 2016?
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                                                            • RudyRuetigger
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 08-24-10
                                                              • 65084

                                                              #1745
                                                              Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
                                                              Look at the voter turnout prices from BetOnline below.

                                                              Voter Turnout in the U.S Presidential Election

                                                              01:00 PM

                                                              Over 149.5 million voters
                                                              -225

                                                              Under 149.5 million voters
                                                              +160




                                                              Voter Turnout in the U.S. Presidential Election

                                                              01:00 PM

                                                              Over 60.5 %
                                                              -150

                                                              Under 60.5 %
                                                              +110





                                                              Does that look the same or different than 2016?

                                                              Here's a link for you to look it up.



                                                              Scroll down to "Turnout Statistics" in the link above. Do you see a difference between 2020 and 2016?
                                                              Neither of those matter for the results Galt


                                                              Democrat parts of Florida and Arizona are not going well with turnout for dems
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                                                              • Judge Crater
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 10-05-20
                                                                • 2024

                                                                #1746
                                                                I do not think Biden or the Democrats is counting on winning Florida, hence the lack of campaigning there.

                                                                Follow the money. Where are the campaigns spending resources?
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                                                                • JohnGalt2341
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 12-31-09
                                                                  • 9138

                                                                  #1747
                                                                  Originally posted by RudyRuetigger
                                                                  Neither of those matter for the results Galt


                                                                  Democrat parts of Florida and Arizona are not going well with turnout for dems
                                                                  First off, I want to congratulate you for leaving a post in this thread without insulting someone. I know how hard it is for you to not act like a child in every single one of your posts. Bravo!

                                                                  My feeling is, the voter turnout will be MUCH higher than 2016. And this is going to hurt Trump, not help him.

                                                                  I guess we'll see in the days and weeks to come.
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                                                                  • DwightShrute
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 01-17-09
                                                                    • 102830

                                                                    #1748
                                                                    Originally posted by JohnGalt2341
                                                                    First off, I want to congratulate you for leaving a post in this thread without insulting someone. I know how hard it is for you to not act like a child in every single one of your posts. Bravo!

                                                                    My feeling is, the voter turnout will be MUCH higher than 2016. And this is going to hurt Trump, not help him.

                                                                    I guess we'll see in the days and weeks to come.
                                                                    what makes you think that?
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                                                                    • burdman
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 10-13-20
                                                                      • 140

                                                                      #1749
                                                                      Originally posted by Judge Crater
                                                                      I do not think Biden or the Democrats is counting on winning Florida, hence the lack of campaigning there.

                                                                      Follow the money. Where are the campaigns spending resources?
                                                                      Obama was just in Florida with a massive rally just for icing on the cake.

                                                                      if by some miracle trump wins, people are gonna wish he wouldn’t starting that night
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                                                                      • RudyRuetigger
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 08-24-10
                                                                        • 65084

                                                                        #1750
                                                                        Originally posted by burdman
                                                                        Obama was just in Florida with a massive rally just for icing on the cake.

                                                                        if by some miracle trump wins, people are gonna wish he wouldn’t starting that night
                                                                        yea, bro


                                                                        MASSIVE


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