2020 Election. The State by State Odds and MATH
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jt315SBR Posting Legend
- 11-12-11
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#1716Comment -
pavyracerSBR Aristocracy
- 04-12-07
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#1717- [*=left]Sep. 5: Trump’s momentum has been staunched. His odds went from -117 to -116. Biden improved from -106 to -109.
[*=left]Aug. 31: Trump’s uptick continued and he is now favored over Biden (-117 to -106, on average)
[*=left]Aug. 28: The candidates are now almost dead-even. Biden is -115 on average. Trump is -110.
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Judge CraterSBR MVP
- 10-05-20
- 2024
#1718Keep goingComment -
JohnGalt2341SBR Hall of Famer
- 12-31-09
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#1719In post #1 on June 26th Biden was -265 in PA and now he's -200. So yeah, it's changed but I don't remember seeing anything as dramatic as your post above. Maybe I missed it when this happened. But as far I could tell, PA has remained fairly steady for the last 4 months or so.Comment -
RoyBaconBARRELED IN @ SBR!
- 09-21-05
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#1720@NateSilver538
17hIf the polls aren't tightening since the debate—and with 62 million people having voted—we're sort of getting to the point where the only way Trump can win is with a major polling error, bigger than in 2016 (or if the election is stolen somehow).
@NateSilver538Actually Trump's odds (12%) are quite close to the chances of catching an inside straight (9%), low but still well within the realm of normal things you see in any poker session, and not the much less likely thing you are describing (0.3%).(Also, who plays draw poker anymore?)
Maybe those are his numbers if the game was played today. This is super complex and that actual MOE is realistically 5%+/-.
That takes you from drawing for an inside straight to hitting any pair on the river.
If you stumble back on 2016 the same people said the exact same thing looking at almost the exact same data. Kind of spooky.Comment -
jt315SBR Posting Legend
- 11-12-11
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#1721Our new @trafalgar_group #2020Election#BattlegroundState#PApoll conducted Oct 24-25 shows undecided shrinking and a narrow Trump lead for the first time:
48.4% @realDonaldTrump
47.6% @JoeBiden
2.2% @Jorgensen4POTUS
0.7% Other
1.0% Und. See Report: https://thetrafalgargroup.org/news/pa-pres-102520/
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RudyRuetiggerSBR Aristocracy
- 08-24-10
- 65084
#1722In Florida, 1,508,165 voters who didn't cast a ballot in 2016 have already voted in the 2020 general election.Registered Dems have an 11.7% advantage among these surge voters, almost triple their 4.3% lead with those early voters who did vote in '16.Comment -
pavyracerSBR Aristocracy
- 04-12-07
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#1723Comment -
Mike HuntertzSBR Posting Legend
- 08-19-09
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#1724In post #1 on June 26th Biden was -265 in PA and now he's -200. So yeah, it's changed but I don't remember seeing anything as dramatic as your post above. Maybe I missed it when this happened. But as far I could tell, PA has remained fairly steady for the last 4 months or so.
Not saying some obscure book didn't put it out, but not 5D, Pinnacle, BetChris.
That would be a live dog of which I would have already hedged.Comment -
Judge CraterSBR MVP
- 10-05-20
- 2024
#1725This is the pollster who Robocalls only land lines, they also ask the responders how their neighbors are voting.
To their credit, they alone hit in Michigan and PA in 2016 ( also predicted Trump would win the popular vote )
In the 2018 midterms, they got destroyed in almost all their predictions. They predicted the Republican's would pick up house seats (they lost 41 seats)
The poll below has Trump winning 49.9% of the 18-24 vote.
Our new @trafalgar_group #2020Election#BattlegroundState#PApoll conducted Oct 24-25 shows undecided shrinking and a narrow Trump lead for the first time:
48.4% @realDonaldTrump
47.6% @JoeBiden
2.2% @Jorgensen4POTUS
0.7% Other
1.0% Und. See Report: https://thetrafalgargroup.org/news/pa-pres-102520/
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vitterdRestricted User
- 09-14-17
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#1726Our new @trafalgar_group #2020Election#BattlegroundState#PApoll conducted Oct 24-25 shows undecided shrinking and a narrow Trump lead for the first time:
48.4% @realDonaldTrump
47.6% @JoeBiden
2.2% @Jorgensen4POTUS
0.7% Other
1.0% Und. See Report: https://thetrafalgargroup.org/news/pa-pres-102520/
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jt315SBR Posting Legend
- 11-12-11
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#1727Comment -
vitterdRestricted User
- 09-14-17
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#1728
Leave and never come back!!Comment -
jt315SBR Posting Legend
- 11-12-11
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#1729
The beast told Joe yesterday you better get your ass out of this basement and to Pa and start ‘splaining yo self !Comment -
vitterdRestricted User
- 09-14-17
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#1730I posted the early numbers. It’s a beating. It’s a massive beating!! I posted the early voting numbers. They are bigger than the polls!Comment -
ByeSheaSBR Hall of Famer
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#1735Biggest difference between 2016 and today is that Hillary, while her rallies were sparsely attended and few and far between, wasn't confined to her basement most of the last month of the election.
Somehow it's different now.... riiiiiighhhhtt.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">RCP battleground poll average:<br><br>𝗢𝗰𝘁. 𝟮𝟵, 𝟮𝟬𝟭𝟲<br>• Florida: (Tied)<br>• Pennsylvania: Clinton +5.6<br>• Michigan: +7<br>• Wisc: +6.2<br>• NC: +3.2<br><br>𝗧𝗼𝗱𝗮𝘆<br>• Florida: Biden +1.2<br>• Pennsylvania: +5.1<br>• Michigan: +7.8<br>• Wisc: +4.6<br>• NC: +1.5<br><br>👉🏻 <a href="https://t.co/ZBRpAvXwZT">https://t.co/ZBRpAvXwZT</a> <a href="https://t.co/GZmTCAxlSI">https://t.co/GZmTCAxlSI</a></p>— Frank Luntz (@FrankLuntz) <a href="https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1320172303984934915?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >October 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Comment -
RudyRuetiggerSBR Aristocracy
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vitterdRestricted User
- 09-14-17
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#1737Biggest difference between 2016 and today is that Hillary, while her rallies were sparsely attended and few and far between, wasn't confined to her basement most of the last month of the election.
Somehow it's different now.... riiiiiighhhhtt.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">RCP battleground poll average:<br><br>𝗢𝗰𝘁. 𝟮𝟵, 𝟮𝟬𝟭𝟲<br>• Florida: (Tied)<br>• Pennsylvania: Clinton +5.6<br>• Michigan: +7<br>• Wisc: +6.2<br>• NC: +3.2<br><br>𝗧𝗼𝗱𝗮𝘆<br>• Florida: Biden +1.2<br>• Pennsylvania: +5.1<br>• Michigan: +7.8<br>• Wisc: +4.6<br>• NC: +1.5<br><br>👉🏻 <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/ZBRpAvXwZT">https://t.co/ZBRpAvXwZT</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/GZmTCAxlSI">https://t.co/GZmTCAxlSI</a></p>— Frank Luntz (@FrankLuntz) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1320172303984934915?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >October 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Comment -
vitterdRestricted User
- 09-14-17
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#1738Comment -
RudyRuetiggerSBR Aristocracy
- 08-24-10
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#1739you democrats are so fukkin clueless
i feel bad for you
i bet you are 60 year old hippy, 140lb soaking wet with no guns
yet want to defund the police
best of luck bro
im not going to lie, a part of me wants biden to win just to see you guys get absolutely fukked overComment -
KVBSBR Aristocracy
- 05-29-14
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#1740LMAO, keep watching those lines fellas.
A lot of betting with your heart and political opinions in here. That’s like being a sports fan and trying to meaningfully gamble on your team.
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RudyRuetiggerSBR Aristocracy
- 08-24-10
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#1741Comment -
Judge CraterSBR MVP
- 10-05-20
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#1742“Political malpractice”: Veteran GOP pollster Frank Luntz calls the Donald Trump re-election effort the "worst campaign I’ve ever seen."
If you can post something from someone not being paid by the GOP about Trump being ahead or tied, that's information we could use.
Biggest difference between 2016 and today is that Hillary, while her rallies were sparsely attended and few and far between, wasn't confined to her basement most of the last month of the election.
Somehow it's different now.... riiiiiighhhhtt.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">RCP battleground poll average:<br><br>헢헰혁. ퟮퟵ, ퟮퟬퟭퟲ<br>• Florida: (Tied)<br>• Pennsylvania: Clinton +5.6<br>• Michigan: +7<br>• Wisc: +6.2<br>• NC: +3.2<br><br>헧헼헱헮혆<br>• Florida: Biden +1.2<br>• Pennsylvania: +5.1<br>• Michigan: +7.8<br>• Wisc: +4.6<br>• NC: +1.5<br><br> <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/ZBRpAvXwZT">https://t.co/ZBRpAvXwZT</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/GZmTCAxlSI">https://t.co/GZmTCAxlSI</a></p>— Frank Luntz (@FrankLuntz) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1320172303984934915?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >October 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>Comment -
RudyRuetiggerSBR Aristocracy
- 08-24-10
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#1743Quit quoting dumbasses...here was Frank Luntz on election night 2016:
In case I wasn't clear enough from my previous tweets:Hillary Clinton will be the next President of the United States. #ElectionNight
6:43 PM · Nov 8, 2016 from Manhattan, NY·Twitter for iPhone
Frank Luntz
@FrankLuntz
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JohnGalt2341SBR Hall of Famer
- 12-31-09
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#1744Biggest difference between 2016 and today is that Hillary, while her rallies were sparsely attended and few and far between, wasn't confined to her basement most of the last month of the election.
Somehow it's different now.... riiiiiighhhhtt.
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">RCP battleground poll average:<br><br>헢헰혁. ퟮퟵ, ퟮퟬퟭퟲ<br>• Florida: (Tied)<br>• Pennsylvania: Clinton +5.6<br>• Michigan: +7<br>• Wisc: +6.2<br>• NC: +3.2<br><br>헧헼헱헮혆<br>• Florida: Biden +1.2<br>• Pennsylvania: +5.1<br>• Michigan: +7.8<br>• Wisc: +4.6<br>• NC: +1.5<br><br> <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/ZBRpAvXwZT">https://t.co/ZBRpAvXwZT</a> <a rel="nofollow" href="https://t.co/GZmTCAxlSI">https://t.co/GZmTCAxlSI</a></p>— Frank Luntz (@FrankLuntz) <a rel="nofollow" href="https://twitter.com/FrankLuntz/status/1320172303984934915?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw" >October 25, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>
Voter Turnout in the U.S Presidential Election
01:00 PM
Over 149.5 million voters
-225
Under 149.5 million voters
+160
Voter Turnout in the U.S. Presidential Election
01:00 PM
Over 60.5 %
-150
Under 60.5 %
+110
Does that look the same or different than 2016?
Here's a link for you to look it up.
Scroll down to "Turnout Statistics" in the link above. Do you see a difference between 2020 and 2016?Comment -
RudyRuetiggerSBR Aristocracy
- 08-24-10
- 65084
#1745Look at the voter turnout prices from BetOnline below.
Voter Turnout in the U.S Presidential Election
01:00 PM
Over 149.5 million voters
-225
Under 149.5 million voters
+160
Voter Turnout in the U.S. Presidential Election
01:00 PM
Over 60.5 %
-150
Under 60.5 %
+110
Does that look the same or different than 2016?
Here's a link for you to look it up.
Scroll down to "Turnout Statistics" in the link above. Do you see a difference between 2020 and 2016?
Democrat parts of Florida and Arizona are not going well with turnout for demsComment -
Judge CraterSBR MVP
- 10-05-20
- 2024
#1746I do not think Biden or the Democrats is counting on winning Florida, hence the lack of campaigning there.
Follow the money. Where are the campaigns spending resources?Comment -
JohnGalt2341SBR Hall of Famer
- 12-31-09
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#1747
My feeling is, the voter turnout will be MUCH higher than 2016. And this is going to hurt Trump, not help him.
I guess we'll see in the days and weeks to come.Comment -
DwightShruteSBR Aristocracy
- 01-17-09
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#1748First off, I want to congratulate you for leaving a post in this thread without insulting someone. I know how hard it is for you to not act like a child in every single one of your posts. Bravo!
My feeling is, the voter turnout will be MUCH higher than 2016. And this is going to hurt Trump, not help him.
I guess we'll see in the days and weeks to come.Comment -
burdmanSBR High Roller
- 10-13-20
- 140
#1749
if by some miracle trump wins, people are gonna wish he wouldn’t starting that nightComment
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