2020 Election. The State by State Odds and MATH

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  • thomorino
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    • 06-01-17
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    #1681
    Originally posted by Judge Crater
    Maybe, we will see.

    I do not trust Robocall polls because they are not allowed to call cell phones, only land lines. These land line owners tend to be much older and own their homes.

    https://www.marketingcharts.com/demo...nd-gen-x-77051
    They also vote much more, old people vote at far higher rates than younger people.
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    • Kermit
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      • 09-27-10
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      #1682
      Trump hit 3 cities in Pa today. If he wins Pa, he wins the election.

      Meanwhile in Philly(where most of the Biden votes come from) they just recorded their 400th murder today. That is the most murders in the city since 2006. And with over 2 months to go, they'll more than likely break even more records this year.
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      • CWD
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        • 01-22-12
        • 7665

        #1683
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        • beerman2619
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          • 12-24-09
          • 7752

          #1684
          Trump wins this election easy. Hunter will take care of his daddy after this election. Smoke crack with his pops and change his depends. Maybe both will look at child porn on his laptop. Think his Wife Jill will go bang some younger dudes and divorce Joe.
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          • RoyBacon
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            • 09-21-05
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            #1685
            poll conducted by InsiderAdvantage for the Center for American Greatness of 400 likely voters in Pennsylvania shows Donald Trump now leading in the state. The poll was conducted the evening of October 25 by both IVR and live cell phone interviews. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.9 percent and is weighted for age, race, gender, and political affiliation. The results:
            Donald Trump: 48.4%
            Joe Biden: 45.5 %
            Jo Jorgensen: 3 %
            Undecided: 3 %

            Within margin of error.

            All three of the states Trump won before are too close to call; WI, MI and PA. I think he wins WI easily.
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            • chico2663
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              • 09-02-10
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              #1686
              that oil comment cost biden penn. the leading search on google in penn is can i change my vote.
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              • vitterd
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                • 09-14-17
                • 58460

                #1687
                Originally posted by RoyBacon
                poll conducted by InsiderAdvantage for the Center for American Greatness of 400 likely voters in Pennsylvania shows Donald Trump now leading in the state. The poll was conducted the evening of October 25 by both IVR and live cell phone interviews. It has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.9 percent and is weighted for age, race, gender, and political affiliation. The results:
                Donald Trump: 48.4%
                Joe Biden: 45.5 %
                Jo Jorgensen: 3 %
                Undecided: 3 %

                Within margin of error.

                All three of the states Trump won before are too close to call; WI, MI and PA. I think he wins WI easily.
                Maybe the worst pollster there is.
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                • vitterd
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                  • 09-14-17
                  • 58460

                  #1688
                  Originally posted by Kermit
                  Trump hit 3 cities in Pa today. If he wins Pa, he wins the election.

                  Meanwhile in Philly(where most of the Biden votes come from) they just recorded their 400th murder today. That is the most murders in the city since 2006. And with over 2 months to go, they'll more than likely break even more records this year.
                  The early vote is so overwhelming dem.
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                  • rkelly110
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                    • 10-05-09
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                    #1689
                    Originally posted by Kermit
                    Trump hit 3 cities in Pa today. If he wins Pa, he wins the election.

                    Meanwhile in Philly(where most of the Biden votes come from) they just recorded their 400th murder today. That is the most murders in the city since 2006. And with over 2 months to go, they'll more than likely break even more records this year.
                    How many did you go to? Asking for a friend so as to stay away from you for 14 days.......
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                    • lakerboy
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                      • 04-02-09
                      • 94379

                      #1690
                      Originally posted by vitterd
                      The early vote is so overwhelming dem.
                      That's why the odds to win pa were+400 three weeks ago and are now+160 right?
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                      • RoyBacon
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                        • 09-21-05
                        • 37074

                        #1691
                        Originally posted by rkelly110
                        How many did you go to? Asking for a friend so as to stay away from you for 14 days.......
                        LMAO tards and their covid. Dude it ain't The Plague. I know an overweight 74 year old who got over it in a couple of days.
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                        • SimpleJack
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 09-26-20
                          • 537

                          #1692
                          Originally posted by RoyBacon
                          LMAO tards and their covid. Dude it ain't The Plague. I know an overweight 74 year old who got over it in a couple of days.
                          Your wife probably has good genes. Death sentence for some.
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                          • Kermit
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                            • 09-27-10
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                            #1693
                            Originally posted by rkelly110
                            How many did you go to? Asking for a friend so as to stay away from you for 14 days.......
                            He had one here just 2 weeks ago. I didn't go. I'm not into camping out all day for things like that.
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                            • Mike Huntertz
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                              • 08-19-09
                              • 11207

                              #1694
                              Originally posted by lakerboy
                              That's why the odds to win pa were+400 three weeks ago and are now+160 right?
                              Where did you get +400 three weeks ago?
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                              • vitterd
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                                • 09-14-17
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                                #1695
                                Originally posted by lakerboy
                                That's why the odds to win pa were+400 three weeks ago and are now+160 right?
                                This could not be more false
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                                • pavyracer
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                                  • 04-12-07
                                  • 82621

                                  #1696
                                  Originally posted by Mike Huntertz
                                  Where did you get +400 three weeks ago?
                                  In his dreams. Trump was actually about even with Biden in PA in September.
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                                  • chico2663
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                                    • 09-02-10
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                                    #1697
                                    Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                    LMAO tards and their covid. Dude it ain't The Plague. I know an overweight 74 year old who got over it in a couple of days.
                                    I have lost 5 family members dip shit.
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                                    • ByeShea
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                                      • 06-30-08
                                      • 8074

                                      #1698
                                      Originally posted by pavyracer
                                      In his dreams. Trump was actually about even with Biden in PA in September.
                                      Your first mistake was believing polls. Data suggests Biden not doing particularly well in any swing state (and take away the fictitious polls, can you really be surprised?)

                                      Data shows Trump meanwhile winning FL & AZ & NC ... and in MI it looks like he's flipping Oakland County, 2nd biggest in the state. GOP turnout there off the charts, just ask Michael Moore.

                                      Time for that last minute push, Joe!




                                      Joe? Where's Joe?



                                      Anyone seen Hunter?
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                                      • RoyBacon
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                                        • 09-21-05
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                                        #1699
                                        Originally posted by chico2663
                                        I have lost 5 family members dip shit.
                                        I'm throwing the BS flag on that one. Link me to their orbits. Probably just told you they died so they get the fvvk away from your weird bean-vomit smelling azz. Just one theory.
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                                        • vitterd
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                                          • 09-14-17
                                          • 58460

                                          #1700
                                          Originally posted by ByeShea
                                          Your first mistake was believing polls. Data suggests Biden not doing particularly well in any swing state (and take away the fictitious polls, can you really be surprised?)

                                          Data shows Trump meanwhile winning FL & AZ & NC ... and in MI it looks like he's flipping Oakland County, 2nd biggest in the state. GOP turnout there off the charts, just ask Michael Moore.

                                          Time for that last minute push, Joe!




                                          Joe? Where's Joe?



                                          Anyone seen Hunter?
                                          This is completely false. I mean, absolutely the opposite is happening.
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                                          • Mike Huntertz
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                                            • 08-19-09
                                            • 11207

                                            #1701
                                            Originally posted by ByeShea
                                            Your first mistake was believing polls. Data suggests Biden not doing particularly well in any swing state (and take away the fictitious polls, can you really be surprised?)

                                            Data shows Trump meanwhile winning FL & AZ & NC ... and in MI it looks like he's flipping Oakland County, 2nd biggest in the state. GOP turnout there off the charts, just ask Michael Moore.

                                            Time for that last minute push, Joe!




                                            Joe? Where's Joe?



                                            Anyone seen Hunter?
                                            Please post the data.
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                                            • Judge Crater
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 10-05-20
                                              • 2024

                                              #1702
                                              Trump gains overnight

                                              Betfair
                                              Biden -200
                                              Trump +198

                                              Trump was at +192 earlier, seems to be grinding back up.

                                              I think this maybe was caused by the Philadelphia riots overnight. I didn't see anything else in the news to cause a ten cent drop.
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                                              • vitterd
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                                                • 09-14-17
                                                • 58460

                                                #1703
                                                Originally posted by Mike Huntertz
                                                Please post the data.
                                                He has none. It’s all nonsense and lies. ByeShea follows some guy on twitter named Larry and listens to him. The guy has been wrong about every race he’s ever predicted.
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                                                • lakerboy
                                                  SBR Aristocracy
                                                  • 04-02-09
                                                  • 94379

                                                  #1704
                                                  Originally posted by pavyracer
                                                  In his dreams. Trump was actually about even with Biden in PA in September.
                                                  He was +400 in Vegas on oct 4

                                                  These were odds on oct 16



                                                  You think he was even then went to+250? Lol paver.

                                                  He is +160 today

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                                                  • vitterd
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                                                    • 09-14-17
                                                    • 58460

                                                    #1705
                                                    Action network? Wtf?
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                                                    • Judge Crater
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                                                      • 10-05-20
                                                      • 2024

                                                      #1706
                                                      From Dave Wasserman of non-partisan Cook Political Report's Twitter feed today

                                                      Let's see...what should we put more faith in?

                                                      1) A molehill of state-level online polls from attention-seeking, off-brand pollsters? Or...

                                                      2) A mountain of district-level polls from established pollsters tasked w/ helping their parties make smart resource allocation decisions
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                                                      • lakerboy
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                                                        • 04-02-09
                                                        • 94379

                                                        #1707
                                                        Originally posted by vitterd
                                                        Action network? Wtf?
                                                        Bottom line odds have dropped on trump
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                                                        • RoyBacon
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                                                          • 09-21-05
                                                          • 37074

                                                          #1708
                                                          Originally posted by Judge Crater
                                                          From Dave Wasserman of non-partisan Cook Political Report's Twitter feed today

                                                          Let's see...what should we put more faith in?

                                                          1) A molehill of state-level online polls from attention-seeking, off-brand pollsters? Or...

                                                          2) A mountain of district-level polls from established pollsters tasked w/ helping their parties make smart resource allocation decisions

                                                          Like 2016? Yea, let's be dumb azzes and make the same mistake twice. LOL

                                                          I agree Trump is losing and I obviously agree with the "markets". But everyone including the markets KNOW there is a Trump under count to factor in. The only question is how much is it?
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                                                          • vitterd
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                                                            • 09-14-17
                                                            • 58460

                                                            #1709
                                                            Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                            Bottom line odds have dropped on trump
                                                            Bet trump then. Let me know how that works out. I posted the early pa voting numbers last night.
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                                                            • vitterd
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                                                              • 09-14-17
                                                              • 58460

                                                              #1710
                                                              Originally posted by vitterd
                                                              Pa early voting 1.4 million

                                                              71 dems
                                                              20 Repubs
                                                              9 others

                                                              New voters who are voting for first time

                                                              66 Dems
                                                              17 repub
                                                              17 other
                                                              I mean. Just take a look
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                                                              • lakerboy
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                                                                • 04-02-09
                                                                • 94379

                                                                #1711
                                                                Originally posted by vitterd
                                                                Bet trump then. Let me know how that works out. I posted the early pa voting numbers last night.
                                                                I took it last week+190. I don't need to let you know how it works out. You will find out soon.
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                                                                • vitterd
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                                                                  • 09-14-17
                                                                  • 58460

                                                                  #1712
                                                                  Originally posted by lakerboy
                                                                  I took it last week+190. I don't need to let you know how it works out. You will find out soon.
                                                                  I already know but I can’t wait to see all the disappearing acts next week.
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                                                                  • Judge Crater
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                                                                    • 10-05-20
                                                                    • 2024

                                                                    #1713
                                                                    absolutely correct, the big electoral sites ( 538, Larry Sabato, Cook Report, etc.) all put odds of Trump much longer than the betting markets. I am not sure there is value for trump in the betting markets as they are already discounted.


                                                                    Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                                    Like 2016? Yea, let's be dumb azzes and make the same mistake twice. LOL

                                                                    I agree Trump is losing and I obviously agree with the "markets". But everyone including the markets KNOW there is a Trump under count to factor in. The only question is how much is it?
                                                                    Last edited by Judge Crater; 10-27-20, 10:00 AM.
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                                                                    • RoyBacon
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                                                                      • 09-21-05
                                                                      • 37074

                                                                      #1714
                                                                      Originally posted by Judge Crater
                                                                      absolutely correct, the big electoral sites ( 538, Larry Sabato, Cook Report, etc.) all put odds of Trump much longer than the betting markets. I am not sure there is value for trump in the betting markets as they are already discounted.
                                                                      The most damning stats I've seen is the already voted polls. Trump is down 8ish points in the midwest. Even if you take out the dems over sample and massage the MOE you come up with too big of a hill to take on election day.

                                                                      Close? Yes. Value? As a famous SBR gambler once said; there ain't much value in losing.
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                                                                      • Judge Crater
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                                                                        • 10-05-20
                                                                        • 2024

                                                                        #1715
                                                                        @NateSilver538
                                                                        17hIf the polls aren't tightening since the debate—and with 62 million people having voted—we're sort of getting to the point where the only way Trump can win is with a major polling error, bigger than in 2016 (or if the election is stolen somehow).


                                                                        @NateSilver538
                                                                        Actually Trump's odds (12%) are quite close to the chances of catching an inside straight (9%), low but still well within the realm of normal things you see in any poker session, and not the much less likely thing you are describing (0.3%).(Also, who plays draw poker anymore?)









                                                                        Originally posted by RoyBacon
                                                                        The most damning stats I've seen is the already voted polls. Trump is down 8ish points in the midwest. Even if you take out the dems over sample and massage the MOE you come up with too big of a hill to take on election day.
                                                                        Originally posted by RoyBacon

                                                                        Close? Yes. Value? As a famous SBR gambler once said; there ain't much value in losing.
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