everyone's best bet

**Raywinner** · 03-18-19, 11:58 AM

Danshan11, first of all you never answered my question because you don't know and don't give a poop. If you want to make serious $$$ the first thing you MUST do is learn from your mistakes, like what did I do wrong to lose this game? But of course your a punter and would not know this.

**danshan11** · 03-18-19, 12:04 PM

Originally posted by Raywinner

Danshan11, first of all you never answered my question because you don't know and don't give a poop. If you want to make serious $$$ the first thing you MUST do is learn from your mistakes, like what did I do wrong to lose this game? But of course your a punter and would not know this.

keep ducking and dodging LMAO

I answered your question twice

what do you learn from 4 losses and the correct answer is 4 LOSSES DONT MEAN SHIT, IT MEANS NOTHING, ZERO, NOTHING. 4 losses is nothing.

now quit ducking and dodging and answer my questions

**Raywinner** · 03-18-19, 12:07 PM

My man that means everything! (you must learn from your lose)

**danshan11** · 03-18-19, 12:10 PM

Originally posted by Raywinner

My man that means everything! (you must learn from your lose)

that is the dumbest thing I ever heard. can you answer my questions?

**Raywinner** · 03-18-19, 12:18 PM

Originally posted by danshan11

that is the dumbest thing I ever heard. can you answer my questions?

I can not believe you never heard of this system. I would suggest you read (How to win at sport betting 101 ) 19.99 online, that would be a good start for you so you could make some serious $$$$ someday. Your system absolutely would not work to make serious $$$. BOTTOM LINE!

**danshan11** · 03-18-19, 12:19 PM

can you answer my questions

**Raywinner** · 03-18-19, 12:24 PM

Originally posted by danshan11

can you answer my questions

Not going to waste any more time trying to explain how to win to a PUNTER ! Doing my homework so I can pick my next winner. BYE!

**danshan11** · 03-18-19, 12:28 PM

Originally posted by Raywinner

Not going to waste any more time trying to explain how to win to a PUNTER ! Doing my homework so I can pick my next winner. BYE!

good answer again i just hope members can see the definition of tout from this discussion

**Raywinner** · 03-18-19, 12:33 PM

One thing for sure is all members know now that you are a PUNTER that is pissed off.

**danshan11** · 03-18-19, 12:35 PM

Originally posted by Raywinner

One thing for sure is all members know now that you are a PUNTER that is pissed off.

why cant you answer the questions?

**danshan11** · 03-18-19, 12:39 PM

questions for you
what do you learn from 4 straight losses?
how do you overcome variance?
is betting a ton of bets a day a good or bad thing if you have an edge?

**A Quant** · 03-18-19, 01:02 PM

Ray--- do you even understand Dan's point?

I'll slow it down for you.

Suppose you lose 3-4 games in a row-- one by blowout, one by a point, another by 7-8 points.... what could you possibly learn from those 3 losses?

**Gaze73** · 03-18-19, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by danshan11

questions for you
what do you learn from 4 straight losses?
how do you overcome variance?
is betting a ton of bets a day a good or bad thing if you have an edge?

I'll answer from my perspective. You can't learn anything from 4 losses, but after 30+ losses patterns start to emerge and you can learn from them. Every system(read: selection method) has leaks, just like winning poker players have leaks with certain hands at certain positions in certain formats at certain blind levels. You won't learn about the leaks unless you keep meticulous records with comments next to each pick. For example your leak could be NCAAB double digit home dogs. Do you know your exact record with such dogs? If not, you're not keeping good enough records.

You don't have to worry about variance if the picks have a good enough edge. Making 30 picks a day is not the way to go. Our single advantage over the bookies is that we can pick our spots with the biggest edge instead of betting 500 games a day. This also takes discipline. My very best systems have like 2 selections a week, but I'm not disciplined enough to make 2 bets a week, so I explore other options in the meantime. Quality wins over quantity every time in this business. I'd rather bet $1000 on super solid info than 5x $200 on mediocre 4% value picks where variance does indeed suck.

**SEAHAWKHARRY** · 03-18-19, 01:24 PM

Ok this thread has been hijacked

No more picks I see
Keyboard battles are so fun
Enjoy

**danshan11** · 03-18-19, 01:35 PM

I hope the people that are not trying to be touts continue to do this, it was fun and I hope it can keep going. Ray ruined it with his tout crap but that does not mean all hope is lost.

**danshan11** · 03-18-19, 01:38 PM

I will create a thread for those questions on handicap think tank if anyone wants to carry over the conversation on it

The Famous for Raywinner questions - Sportsbook Review Forum

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/handicapper-think-tank/3532081-famous-raywinner-questions.html#post28495004

Handicapping theories, betting systems, tips, tricks, odds and math

and now can this thread go back to best bets by the members NOT TOUTS

**Slipknot26** · 03-18-19, 05:06 PM

First off , no tout gives 2 shits about bet points .
Secondly , anyone could see it . Correlating emails , several times of can you send your pick , we can do a parlay , maybe it's me but you can do them when I posted them , simply add yours to it .
Lastly nobody gives a fukk
Monday
San Jose PL +142
Record 13-6

**kingdom** · 03-18-19, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by Raywinner

SEAHAWKHARRY, I'm sorry you feel that way. I always thought you would stand with me. I could help you with points and you could help me also. I respect your picking not like DANSHAN11 who is a PUNTER. I don't mind helping you because you have the same ideal. You know during my picking winners I was giving more points out then receiving. I'm generous like that. I just thought I was point worthy with the advice I was giving out. But hardly any of you guys gave me points accept DANSHAN11 (This is IRONIC). Most of you guys know I gave you points but none in return.

it doesn't work that way ray. how you carry yourself matters and like harry said, you are pretty much done by saying "i deserve points." if you go about your business in a better way maybe you can save your reputation. you don't wanna kill your name in just 200 posts. kind of how it worked out for the shooter guy.

**kingdom** · 03-18-19, 05:15 PM

Originally posted by Raywinner

Yes I know that and said I will still post some winners for you guys just not as much and will not be my Best Bet.

this is the worst post of all lol.

**Raywinner** · 03-18-19, 05:29 PM

Originally posted by A Quant

Ray--- do you even understand Dan's point?

I'll slow it down for you.

Suppose you lose 3-4 games in a row-- one by blowout, one by a point, another by 7-8 points.... what could you possibly learn from those 3 losses?

Another PUNTER (If you can't figure out what you did wrong on your first four loses) you will continue to keep doing the same thing and that's being a LOSER.

**danshan11** · 03-18-19, 06:32 PM

Originally posted by Raywinner

Another PUNTER (If you can't figure out what you did wrong on your first four loses) you will continue to keep doing the same thing and that's being a LOSER.

dude quit saying that, people are going to make fun of you if you keep saying that!

**A Quant** · 03-18-19, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by Raywinner

Another PUNTER (If you can't figure out what you did wrong on your first four loses) you will continue to keep doing the same thing and that's being a LOSER.

Absolutely clueless.

You are. I am surprised you can remember to breathe.

**firedawg** · 03-18-19, 06:52 PM

Two TGF clown show ghosts trolling

What else is new?

**sweethook** · 03-18-19, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by sweethook

if in life you ever have extra please give to the SPCA ..

and gl. to all

**matt08** · 03-19-19, 09:04 AM

All I want is to win! Everyone has their own opinions and I respect that. Not here to judge anyone. Just continue putting down our best play to help others regardless, that was the idea and hopefully someone helps me. I am playing Colorado, Belmont and Creighton all ml.

**POTVINSUX** · 03-19-19, 11:41 AM

(21-13-1)

Temple +4 Bought Hook. BOL in the Tourney Guys!

**POTVINSUX** · 03-19-19, 11:49 AM

Originally posted by danshan11

POTV please get out bed with this loser. you dont want to be associated with this kinda guy

I sleep alone!

**danshan11** · 03-19-19, 12:20 PM

Originally posted by POTVINSUX

I sleep alone!

best of luck, I might start posting my best bet again!

**Raywinner** · 03-19-19, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by matt08

All I want is to win! Everyone has their own opinions and I respect that. Not here to judge anyone. Just continue putting down our best play to help others regardless, that was the idea and hopefully someone helps me. I am playing Colorado, Belmont and Creighton all ml.

What did you think of the advice 6-0 ML bets (If you bet them) Go Mattwinner!

**matt08** · 03-20-19, 02:40 AM

I did end up doing a five team parlay on yours and mine. Knew yours was a winner! We both had Creighton. Had a good night! Just hope it continues!

**matt08** · 03-20-19, 10:53 AM

Nebraska -4.5

**Raywinner** · 03-20-19, 11:59 AM

Hi Matt, In my opinion the Nebraska / Butler Game will be a tight game for me to bet (It is a Pass for me)

**POTVINSUX** · 03-20-19, 04:05 PM

(21-14-1)

Toledo +6

**POTVINSUX** · 03-20-19, 04:06 PM

Originally posted by Raywinner

What did you think of the advice 6-0 ML bets (If you bet them) Go Mattwinner!

Well done.

**POTVINSUX** · 03-21-19, 12:11 AM

(21-15-1)

Nevada ML