Offshore is going to grow like you’ve never seen

**bonzaii** · 05-15-18, 03:44 PM

Originally posted by jts1207

Once this gets rolling.....govt will kill off access to these sites

That's a good point they could always do that. Can't stop payments coming in and out of sportsbooks now with crypto but they could always do this like they do for certain sites in China and Russia. Also could just go directly to Costa Rica and shut em down if they wanted. US govt does whatever it wants.

**firedawg** · 05-15-18, 03:48 PM

Originally posted by bonzaii

That's a good point they could always do that. Can't stop payments coming in and out of sportsbooks now with crypto but they could always do this like they do for certain sites in China and Russia. Also could just go directly to Costa Rica and shut em down if they wanted. US govt does whatever it wants.

This
Books are done in Costa Rica as soon as states hop on

JJ knows this as well

**eeezzzz** · 05-15-18, 04:00 PM

Originally posted by moojoo

This is end of BTC boys,mark my words. It will sink under 1000 soon.

You can't be more wrong.

**PAULYPOKER** · 05-15-18, 06:07 PM

Reading this thread is a clear view of who's livelihood depends on offshore booking......

**bjb7223** · 05-15-18, 06:57 PM

JJ I hate to be a bearer of bad news, but the Feds are coming after offshore books.

**mrpapageorgio** · 05-15-18, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by bjb7223

JJ I hate to be a bearer of bad news, but the Feds are coming after offshore books.

I hear the Feds are coming after JJ first to see if he'll talk.

**7deuceoff$uit** · 05-15-18, 09:13 PM

Originally posted by mrpapageorgio

I hear the Feds are coming after JJ first to see if he'll talk.

Feds will never find him. That guy is in a different house every week.

**jjgold** · 05-15-18, 09:37 PM

Good thread

**Bluehorseshoe** · 05-17-18, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by jjgold

Good thread

So Will-Hill is handling the action Memorial Day??

**snider** · 05-17-18, 11:34 AM

its called sbr not offshore sbr

**turkkatarian** · 05-17-18, 11:54 AM

Offshore will be Way Down as soon as America is Open For Business. Offshore won't be completely dead but it will be scary sending money offshore when you can easily legally bet in the USA securely. Kinda a No Brainer.

**HedgeHog** · 05-17-18, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by turkkatarian

Offshore will be Way Down as soon as America is Open For Business. Offshore won't be completely dead but it will be scary sending money offshore when you can easily legally bet in the USA securely. Kinda a No Brainer.

Low juice books like Heritage, 5D and Low Vig will continue to thrive against the full juice US books.

**flyingcarbs** · 05-17-18, 12:24 PM

Even IF offshore (illegal) gets bigger, and thats a big if...US govt will shut them down eventually. With sports betting getting bigger in the US there will be some very rich and powerful companies forming "associations" not unlike MPAA and RIAA and they will work with the gov to shit on the big illegal sites - hopefully they take down 5dicks and put Tonys scamming ass in prison.

**flyingcarbs** · 05-17-18, 12:27 PM

Originally posted by A4K

I have a few of these on tap and in general their lines are awful.

Not to mention half of them conveniently disappear when folks win big.

**jts1207** · 05-17-18, 12:40 PM

Originally posted by HedgeHog

Low juice books like Heritage, 5D and Low Vig will continue to thrive against the full juice US books.

Thrive against states that don't have books. You guys are hilarious.

**PAULYPOKER** · 05-17-18, 01:26 PM

Books that depend on US are gone..........

Books like Pinny/Will Hill,ETC who declined US business,will be the only OFFSHORE books to survive.......
They will start taking US action again if they deal with US gaming commission........

**PAULYPOKER** · 05-17-18, 01:28 PM

If I were SBR I would start blowing these said book's brass immediately.......

**mrpapageorgio** · 05-17-18, 01:39 PM

Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe

So Will-Hill is handling the action Memorial Day??

They're moving back to June because NJ screwed up some of the language in their current law and are working on a fix.

**USCPHILLYGUY** · 05-17-18, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by mrpapageorgio

They're moving back to June because NJ screwed up some of the language in their current law and are working on a fix.

Not accurate. The original law stated you couldn’t get a license until a year after the law came into effect (will be signed June 7th). If you did open up a shop before this time frame, you’d not be eligible to obtain a license. I’m sure some amendment to this will be put into place.

**HedgeHog** · 05-17-18, 02:18 PM

Originally posted by jts1207

Thrive against states that don't have books. You guys are hilarious.

Laugh all you want. But given the choice of betting -105 lines offshore vs -115 (or worse) in Illinois, I'll choose to continue to bet at the likes of 5D and Heritage.

**Waterstpub87** · 05-17-18, 02:51 PM

Originally posted by HedgeHog

Laugh all you want. But given the choice of betting -105 lines offshore vs -115 (or worse) in Illinois, I'll choose to continue to bet at the likes of 5D and Heritage.

Same. Especially if there is no online betting. No way in hell am I driving two hours a day to Atlantic City to bet on baseball.

**mrpapageorgio** · 05-17-18, 02:57 PM

Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY

Not accurate. The original law stated you couldn’t get a license until a year after the law came into effect (will be signed June 7th). If you did open up a shop before this time frame, you’d not be eligible to obtain a license. I’m sure some amendment to this will be put into place.

Isn't that screwing up the language (by forcing your parks to wait a year without foresight) and needing to fix it?

**turkkatarian** · 05-17-18, 03:15 PM

Why bet offshore when we will be able to Login an account in the USA Legally just like a TD Ameritrade account? Makes No sense to keep betting offshore and be Limited to the Number of Payouts you can get.

**Derailer** · 05-17-18, 03:34 PM

Doubt seriously the US Govt is going to care much about offshore with sports betting legal. It will serve a useful purpose for the US books by taking away professional action they don't really want and will be necessary for people in states that cannot bet until you can bet from any state in the country.

US books will also be getting their lines from offshore so they need them to be around.

It will be a while before US books are willing to compete with offshore on openers, overnights and bonuses. Eventually, they will put most offshore books out of business and will then seek to conquer much of Europe.

**USCPHILLYGUY** · 05-17-18, 03:40 PM

Originally posted by mrpapageorgio

Isn't that screwing up the language (by forcing your parks to wait a year without foresight) and needing to fix it?

Wouldn’t say screwing up the language. I’d assume the wording was put in place to give shops time to get up & running. Since that time is not needed I’m sure there’s ways around the wording.

I doubt the US will need offshore for their lines. Seems like a stretch.

**Derailer** · 05-17-18, 03:43 PM

Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY

I doubt the US will need offshore for their lines. Seems like a stretch.

Every US book will move lines off of Bookmaker for years.

**rkelly110** · 05-17-18, 03:55 PM

Was at my local casino and asked a worker when they will be putting in a sports book........I don't know.

**mrpapageorgio** · 05-17-18, 03:55 PM

Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY

Wouldn’t say screwing up the language. I’d assume the wording was put in place to give shops time to get up & running. Since that time is not needed I’m sure there’s ways around the wording.

I just find it weird the books were raring to go on Memorial Day and now have to hold off because of this snag that seemed to be overlooked until today. Seems to be a screw up to me if the consequences of that language were overlooked until now considering people were making plans for May 28th until now because the law has to be tweaked.

**Bluehorseshoe** · 05-17-18, 05:09 PM

Originally posted by mrpapageorgio

I just find it weird the books were raring to go on Memorial Day and now have to hold off because of this snag that seemed to be overlooked until today. Seems to be a screw up to me if the consequences of that language were overlooked until now considering people were making plans for May 28th until now because the law has to be tweaked.

June 7

**mrpapageorgio** · 05-17-18, 07:17 PM

Originally posted by Bluehorseshoe

June 7

That's when the tweaks are supposed to become law. Will Monmouth also be launching that day?

**k13** · 05-17-18, 07:39 PM

Most books don't even take US action so who cares. Irrelevant.

By the time this even gets going it will be years.

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**BriGuy** · 05-18-18, 08:52 AM

Originally posted by mrpapageorgio

Isn't that screwing up the language (by forcing your parks to wait a year without foresight) and needing to fix it?

All that happened was the NJ legislature put the brakes on Monmouth, who wanted to get going on Memorial Day weekend. The bill says "anyone who accepts bets within a year prior to the passage of this bill will not be licensed."

That is their way of saying "if you take bets before this bill is passed, you will be out of business after it is passed." NJ will have legal betting by the summer.

**ABEHONEST** · 05-20-18, 12:24 PM

Men, the difference maker could be those weekly football cards coming out on Tuesday or Wednesday?
They will be a sky rocket of success, if it happens.

ABE