Offshore is going to grow like you’ve never seen

[BriGuy]

People think this is all going to be ready for football season other than New Jersey I highly doubt anybody else will have it

Pennsylvania, NY, Mississippi and Delaware, West Virginia will all have it this football season. Maybe not by week 1, but certainly by the Super Bowl. Louisiana and Connecticut won't be far behind. Other states will be case-by-case.

[A Quant]

People think this is all going to be ready for football season other than New Jersey I highly doubt anybody else will have it

Pennsylvania and Delaware will be up by football season. Guaranteed. Delaware already has the infrastructure in place, Pennsylvania already passed the legislation. The case was argued last fall, it was fairly obvious to everyone in the industry that PAPSA was going to be struck down. Casino and Gaming executives already have a plan in place in Pennsylvania, it's not like they waited until this morning to get ready for a launch.

[jjgold]

I am in PA!!

[ByeShea]

Vegas has said for some time now they ate all for legalization & don't believe it will hurt them.

Matter of fact they saw this coming & around 2-3yrs ago agreed & passed something giving them the availability to offer services online out of state in the future.

That makes a ton of sense. Top 3 or so companies in Vegas also best positioned to develop new business or buy existing.

[ByeShea]

Pennsylvania, NY, Mississippi and Delaware, West Virginia will all have it this football season. Maybe not by week 1, but certainly by the Super Bowl. Louisiana and Connecticut won't be far behind. Other states will be case-by-case.

NY will. The state is as desperate and have had trouble keeping CT/PA/NJ from siphoning gambling revenue for years. Racetracks, which have already been operating slots for a few years now, would be ready to go in days.

[cincinnatikid513]

when amazon came around didn't work out so well for places like best buy circuit city

[jjgold]

Meadowlands in NJ is not state owned

Huge blow to them and that is where massive population is


It would of been huge

[BriGuy]

NY will. The state is as desperate as CT/PA/NJ for gambling revenue and Albany probably ready to go. Racetracks already have the slots.

Yeah I read NY's legislation and I agree. Thought it was weird how the state run casinos will have it but the Indian run casinos (Turning Stone) won't.

Turning Stone was the NY casino I have been to the most but now I'll probably drive the extra hour to del Lago.

[A Quant]

Meadowlands in NJ is not state owned

Huge blow to them and that is where massive population is


It would of been huge

The Meadowlands, The Big M has applied for a ruling on how to proceed with sports betting. They will have it, in one form or another.

In AC, The Borgata and the new Hard Rock (formerly Trump Taj) also plan to be up and running by NFL season.

[Bluehorseshoe]

Meadowlands in NJ is not state owned

Huge blow to them and that is where massive population is


It would of been huge

They just said on the radio that Meadowland could have it by the end of the summer.

NY couldn't have it until next year.

[jjgold]

WOW!!

THE NY people going to take massive shots if it is legal

Huge money NJ/NY richest in NATION

[jtoler]

when amazon came around didn't work out so well for places like best buy circuit city

[Bluehorseshoe]

WOW!!

THE NY people going to take massive shots if it is legal

Huge money NJ/NY richest in NATION

Let me clarify. The earliest NY COULD have it is next year. (If they decide to allow it.)

[cincinnatikid513]

jj says having legalized sports betting in all states is good for offshore my point is best buy and circuit city were doing very well before amazon came along and shut them down maybe this will do the same for off shore ?

[jjgold]

Best Buy is doing well stock holding strong

Online business is soaring


You’re not gonna knock out pioneer books it’s in possible

[bonzaii]

NJ desperate for money. People left that state in droves after the market collapsed in 08.

[Snowball]

Rhode Island goes out to bid on sports-betting provider

https://www.theday.com/article/20180404/BIZ02/180409686

all East Coast casinos will have sports betting now.
Vegas is dead. Sell all property in Vegas immediately.

[jjgold]

Vegas will always be a destination most people do not go their to bet sports they could hurt during big events but that’s about it

These places will not look like Las Vegas sports bools it took Vegas years to look like that

[bonzaii]

Yeah would you rather be in Vegas Nov-March or in New York freezing your ass off? Of course when FL legalizes it Id rather go there if I was living on East Coast.

[Bluehorseshoe]

How it got to this point....

https://nypost.com/2018/05/14/new-jerseys-long-road-to-legalizing-sports-gambling/?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_medium=SocialFlow&utm_source=NYPTwitter

[Snowball]

Vegas will always be a destination most people do not go their to bet sports they could hurt during big events but that’s about it

These places will not look like Las Vegas sports bools it took Vegas years to look like that

will be a ghost town in 10 years.
Upper and Lower East Coast will be in driving distance of dozens of casinos with sports
Beaches Nightlife etc, California, Houston.. everywhere.

[jjgold]

Maybe 10 years Pauly

I can care less about Vegas, all I want is 5 Dimes, heritage, Bookmaker and Betonline and add a few legal usa places

[BriGuy]

will be a ghost town in 10 years.
Upper and Lower East Coast will be in driving distance of dozens of casinos with sports
Beaches Nightlife etc, California, Houston.. everywhere.

I think sports gamblers who associate with sports gamblers lose track of just how few (in terms of percentages) people go to Las Vegas primarily for the sports gambling.

[jjgold]

Most states no where near passing any bills

Only 5 or so really ready

Offshore fine for many years

[gregm]

Most states no where near passing any bills

Only 5 or so really ready
Offshore fine for many years

I live in florida and the southeast and none of these states are going to see sports gambling any time soon.if they ever see it. State legislatures are terrible and slow and there is going to be a lot of opposition in alot of states

South Carolina unlikely to legalize sports betting, despite U.S. Supreme Court ruling

https://www.postandcourier.com/polit...ac27c65eb.html

Of those 5 states where it will happen they are all places no one wants to visit ( west virginia,new jersey,Mississippi,Delaware, etc. none of these compare to vegas , Biloxi and Atlantic city are no comparison.

Why would anyone want to go to some crappy racetrack in some shitty state and pay terrible odds and a nice 8-10% tax rate when you can get online an get a better number?

A place like pennsylvania is going to have a 36 percent tax on gambling revenue and a $10 million licensing fee for a sports book operator???

The greatest thing to come out of this is if americans could have access to the best sportsbooks in the world like pinnacle

[hawkeye 16]

I haven't been offshore in awhile (working on it). Can somebody tell me what KYC (I keep seeing people post it) stands for? Is that related to fried chicken? I Keep trying to get back offshore, but stuff keeps coming up

I'm assuming it has to do with confirming your identity. I sent some stuff in to Bookmaker, but it wasn't good enough because it wasn't in color. I said the hell with it and stayed with my local. I'll figure it out eventually.

I got it now. I'm an idiot. Forgot about Google. I still don't know why it has to be in color. What's next, am I gonna have to send in a DNA sample? I understand their point of view though, I guess. I just don't have a color scanner. I guess I'll just have to go to Staples.

[darrell74]

I still won't gamble off shore
Yes, they will have much better lines and bonuses galore
For me, I still need a ticket

I'm not disagreeing with JJ, same thing that's happened with legalizing marijuana is going to happen to gambling
William Hill, Heritage, and others will, similarly, to drug cartels, get more access to the U.S.

[jjgold]

The more I read a lot of states will never get it and the ones that will it will be like five more years from now it’s going to be an East Coast thing like I said it’s definitely transcending and cannot hurt again gambler for the future

[gopolks]

So Americans are allowed to use overseas gambling sites, does this SC decision, now mean, there can be legal bookie sites all across the USA, like Ladbrokes in the UK and the TAB in New Zealand. Plus online websites based in the USA?

[gopolks]

Here in New Zealand, we have the "TAB" you can go into their stores and place bets, most people use their online site though. If you want to deposit, you can do it, instore or online, but if you want to withdraw, you have to go into their store. There are no taxes on winnings thankfully.

The amount of options you can bet on is amazing. eg: Nba, first basket scorer, first three point scorer, player performance, if it can happen in a game, you can bet on it, its not just a point spread, combined point or head to head thing.

[jjgold]

Offshore is laughing it’s going to be so regulated it’s going to be horrible and only maybe five states will have it for the next three years

[ByeShea]

Look at it this way - I’m in NY. Belmont race track is GIGANTIC. Plenty of room to make a banging sports book that will jump on NFL Sundays.

Sooner than later this scenario will play out from coast to coast. Net-net less people going to church and larger overall handle.

[jjgold]

Everywhere I read most experts say it’s going to take a very long time just for even 10 states to get it because of lots of red tape and voting and legislation

Then the feds are going to try to regulate it it’s going to be a real mess

[vividjohn45]

We thank the Supreme Court

Yes. And I thank the Good Lord above. God is Good.

[floridagolfer]

I disagree; there's no need for all the crap offshore books, at least for U.S. players. And, really, who cares what bettors' needs are anywhere else? Let 'em suffer through the misery if that's their only choice.