Stock Market Discussion -- started 03/06/2018 -- updated daily !!!

**chico2663** · 06-13-20, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by milwaukee mike

that 150 hour requirement sucks (was 120 when i did it)... also that test is a beast to pass when you're 22, at least now you can do 1 part at a time but i would still say don't do it

if all you're doing is tax returns then you don't need a cpa license

i have 3 separate insurance agents as clients... no matter what with a family of 4 it's around 20k/year in wisconsin if you're not on the exchange... we're paying for all these badger care recipients too around here

Can’t you join the chamber of com.?

**milwaukee mike** · 06-13-20, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by chico2663

Can’t you join the chamber of com.?

and pay 18k instead of 20k? maybe... health insurance isn't cheap, other than marketplace

my monthly went from $1800 in 2019... to $80 in 2020

**HockeyRocks** · 06-13-20, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by milwaukee mike

you're always given an option...if you're paying double (like i am) then just don't make as much
life sucks, that's nothing new... "god grant me the serenity to accept the things i cannot change"

i'm clueless on obamacare? please enlighten me as to why it makes sense to give free health insurance to families of 4 that make up to $106,000/year... that same family of 4 that makes $126,000/year might be paying an additional 5k in taxes and 20k in health insurance... so by making an extra $20k you just cost yourself $5k, pretty good disincentive to working harder right?

If im not mistaken a family of four, 2 adults and 2 children making 103,000 a year, Obamacare is not free, According to the Marketplace calculator there would be a subsidy of 738.00 monthly, but the family would still haVE TO PAY 839.00 monthly for the silver plan. The bronze plan would be much less. This would be based on husband 42 and wife 37.

**navyblue81** · 06-13-20, 07:30 PM

Just put my $10k future into TTD. Was really between that and NVDIA but really like the direction TTD is going and see a lot of potential for major growth in the future.

**guitarjosh** · 06-13-20, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by navyblue81

Just put my $10k future into TTD. Was really between that and NVDIA but really like the direction TTD is going and see a lot of potential for major growth in the future.

Both are great companies. TTD has better EPS and sales growth, although NVDA has a better return on investments and their margins are a little better.

**homie1975** · 06-13-20, 09:35 PM

MRNA moving to phase 3 human trials and WH wants phase 4 stimulus 2T for manufacturing so futures up tomorrow afternoon ?

**d2bets** · 06-13-20, 09:45 PM

Originally posted by homie1975

MRNA moving to phase 3 human trials and WH wants phase 4 stimulus 2T for manufacturing so futures up tomorrow afternoon ?

Trump would like to spend $5 trillion. Or $10 trillion. Or 100 googleillion.

They'd still have to agree on details.

**zam77** · 06-13-20, 09:46 PM

Starbucks news

https://apple.news/ATbDGB652QEe4n1yBQ9n_hQ

**chico2663** · 06-13-20, 09:48 PM

have couple buddies that were cpa's and went into financial services. they said series 7 was harder than cpa test so sure test won't be a problem.

**milwaukee mike** · 06-14-20, 06:22 AM

Originally posted by chico2663

have couple buddies that were cpa's and went into financial services. they said series 7 was harder than cpa test so sure test won't be a problem.

well good luck with it if you take it... the few people i knew that took the cpa exam after they were 30 years old all failed every time

**triplecrown333** · 06-14-20, 07:37 AM

buy the penetrating dip, its playing out exactly like 2009, shorters got rekt for the last ten years, you dont go up against the fed brrrr machine...rookies read a couple of articles from zerohedge and think they ready to short the world, that website has been feeding their readers to the bulls for the last ten years...

**d2bets** · 06-14-20, 09:44 AM

Originally posted by triplecrown333

buy the penetrating dip, its playing out exactly like 2009, shorters got rekt for the last ten years, you dont go up against the fed brrrr machine...rookies read a couple of articles from zerohedge and think they ready to short the world, that website has been feeding their readers to the bulls for the last ten years...

Is it exactly like 2009? Market topped and began falling October 2007. March 2009 it bottomed at ~ 55% lower. That's 17 months later. No large surges in between. Here the market started falling late Feb 2020. Unless we are going to fall over 30% from here, the bottom will have been 1 month after the top.

If this is playing out exactly like 2009 then you should get the hell out right now.

**navyblue81** · 06-14-20, 09:59 AM

I think we need to wait and see what happens with COVID-19 this week and next week. Any surge in cases is only going to hurt the market more, particularly restaurants, theme parks, airlines, and small businesses. I think there's the opportunity for a good week if no bad news comes out. I think it's a bit of a holding pattern right now and just seeing how things play out this week news-wise.

**trobin31** · 06-14-20, 10:09 AM

Originally posted by zam77

Starbucks news

https://apple.news/ATbDGB652QEe4n1yBQ9n_hQ

I bought more SBUX last week during a slight dip.

if you aren’t familiar, Peet’s coffee, which I think might be a huge contender for Starbucks, has phenomenal coffee and working on offering an IPO. I am jumping all over it once it happens.

**d2bets** · 06-14-20, 10:13 AM

Originally posted by navyblue81

I think we need to wait and see what happens with COVID-19 this week and next week. Any surge in cases is only going to hurt the market more, particularly restaurants, theme parks, airlines, and small businesses. I think there's the opportunity for a good week if no bad news comes out. I think it's a bit of a holding pattern right now and just seeing how things play out this week news-wise.

Looks like the news will be very bad in some places and very good in others. So what will that mean?

**d2bets** · 06-14-20, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by trobin31

I bought more SBUX last week during a slight dip.

if you aren’t familiar, Peet’s coffee, which I think might be a huge contender for Starbucks, has phenomenal coffee and working on offering an IPO. I am jumping all over it once it happens.

Really? Peet's has been around awhile, I've bought their beans. Meh. To me anyway.

**navyblue81** · 06-14-20, 10:17 AM

Hearing a lot of chatter about SNOWFLAKE being a great buy long term when it opens. Kinda like TTd when it opened. Could be your 1,000%+ rise in 5 years kinda thing. Has anyone heard anything about it and are you buying into the hype? It hasn’t hit WS yet.

**trobin31** · 06-14-20, 10:18 AM

Originally posted by navyblue81

I think we need to wait and see what happens with COVID-19 this week and next week. Any surge in cases is only going to hurt the market more, particularly restaurants, theme parks, airlines, and small businesses. I think there's the opportunity for a good week if no bad news comes out. I think it's a bit of a holding pattern right now and just seeing how things play out this week news-wise.

Right now, there is still a downtrend in deaths across the US and in most of these states having increased # of cases, I think deaths is a more important indicator right now because lots of people are testing even without symptoms, so we may see increase in asymptomatic case #’s, but you are right it will be key to watch next week or two to see if # deaths increases proportionally with # of new cases.

**d2bets** · 06-14-20, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by trobin31

Right now, there is still a downtrend in deaths across the US and in most of these states having increased # of cases, I think deaths is a more important indicator right now because lots of people are testing even without symptoms, so we may see increase in asymptomatic case #’s, but you are right it will be key to watch next week or two to see if # deaths increases proportionally with # of new cases.

Case to death is like 4-6 weeks. So if cases are just spiking now you won't see that in deaths for 4-6 weeks.
Day 1: infection
Day 7: feel bad get tested
Day 10: yes, I'm positive, try to ride it out
Day 17: damn I need the hospital
Day 21: Go to the icu
Day 24: Ventilator time
Day 31: Call the family
Day 35: Bye dad

If you have reliable hospitalization data, that will show before deaths.

There is a downward trend in the places that got hit early -- New York region, Chicago, etc. And those are large places so they drive total country numbers. But then there are the areas that were not hit in April and early May that are now seeing huge spikes, in the south and southwest mostly. They closed at the wrong time. Should have been open then and closed now, but the whole country went on NY timeline. Also Trumper areas that think masks are for losers. Seems masks may be even more effective than stay at home orders. And it's spreading in the south and west where it's hot as hell. Heat doesn't kill it, but outdoors does. My theory is when it gets 90-100+ degress, people tend to go inside and turn on AC. In the north where it's nice and warm but not scorching, people are hanging out outside. Covid does not really spread outside.

**homie1975** · 06-14-20, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by trobin31

I bought more SBUX last week during a slight dip.

if you aren’t familiar, Peet’s coffee, which I think might be a huge contender for Starbucks, has phenomenal coffee and working on offering an IPO. I am jumping all over it once it happens.

with you on SBUX, it is a LT hold for me and i added more shares during a dip in late april or early May i believe it was, from 77 down to 71

i think it doubles within 5Y and i will take that any day

**chico2663** · 06-14-20, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

Case to death is like 4-6 weeks. So if cases are just spiking now you won't see that in deaths for 4-6 weeks.
Day 1: infection
Day 7: feel bad get tested
Day 10: yes, I'm positive, try to ride it out
Day 17: damn I need the hospital
Day 21: Go to the icu
Day 24: Ventilator time
Day 31: Call the family
Day 35: Bye dad

If you have reliable hospitalization data, that will show before deaths.

There is a downward trend in the places that got hit early -- New York region, Chicago, etc. And those are large places so they drive total country numbers. But then there are the areas that were not hit in April and early May that are now seeing huge spikes, in the south and southwest mostly. They closed at the wrong time. Should have been open then and closed now, but the whole country went on NY timeline. Also Trumper areas that think masks are for losers. Seems masks may be even more effective than stay at home orders. And it's spreading in the south and west where it's hot as hell. Heat doesn't kill it, but outdoors does. My theory is when it gets 90-100+ degress, people tend to go inside and turn on AC. In the north where it's nice and warm but not scorching, people are hanging out outside. Covid does not really spread outside.

I am up to 4 family members that have died. I personally have had interaction with 14 people that have lost their life. I know 30 people that have recovered. My old bosses 24 yr old daughter caught it. He drove to St. Louis and when he came back infected whole office.They all were tested and had it thanks to kemper ins. The company fumigated office.everyone recovered Including people in their 60’s.
As far as the stock market as soon as the fed quits feeding the market this shit is going to be like a popped balloon. If trump ever figures out he won’t win. (I still think if he takes Ohio he wins.) He will quit feeding and we will be in the muck.

**homie1975** · 06-14-20, 11:51 AM

^ 4 fam members have died, Chico? holy phukk i am so sorry man

**chico2663** · 06-14-20, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by d2bets

Case to death is like 4-6 weeks. So if cases are just spiking now you won't see that in deaths for 4-6 weeks.
Day 1: infection
Day 7: feel bad get tested
Day 10: yes, I'm positive, try to ride it out
Day 17: damn I need the hospital
Day 21: Go to the icu
Day 24: Ventilator time
Day 31: Call the family
Day 35: Bye dad

If you have reliable hospitalization data, that will show before deaths.

There is a downward trend in the places that got hit early -- New York region, Chicago, etc. And those are large places so they drive total country numbers. But then there are the areas that were not hit in April and early May that are now seeing huge spikes, in the south and southwest mostly. They closed at the wrong time. Should have been open then and closed now, but the whole country went on NY timeline. Also Trumper areas that think masks are for losers. Seems masks may be even more effective than stay at home orders. And it's spreading in the south and west where it's hot as hell. Heat doesn't kill it, but outdoors does. My theory is when it gets 90-100+ degress, people tend to go inside and turn on AC. In the north where it's nice and warm but not scorching, people are hanging out outside. Covid does not really spread outside.

Dude it has been hot down in H-town. We are starting to get it. They are talking about locking us down again. The reason ny,nj ,conn and cal.were hit is because international travel. Those roses red states weren’t hit because who the hell wants to go to Mississippi,west va. Or ala. But Mardi Gras or spring break those fukkin kids brought it back to their states.

**chico2663** · 06-14-20, 12:20 PM

thanks for info. but stats are for other people. maxed asvab twice. made 13 straight trips when you had 50% chance of making trip 3 straight times. took calculus class in my late 40's and ruined the curve for a bunch of engineering students at u. of cincy. Always been exception rather than the rule. [/QUOTE]

**chico2663** · 06-14-20, 12:23 PM

Originally posted by homie1975

^ 4 fam members have died, Chico? holy phukk i am so sorry man

hispanics breed like rooster roaches. lol oldest of 40 cousins by 6 people. mom's cousins are worse

**chico2663** · 06-14-20, 12:38 PM

Originally posted by homie1975

^ 4 fam members have died, Chico? holy phukk i am so sorry man

One of my many trips i made was a 4 day stay when baltimore made the inner harbor. We got to play flag football on balt. ravens stadium. We took a train to new york city and stayed at the Marriott marquis for 3 more days.It was when mama mia came out on broadway.I promised to take mom to it but the girl i was messing with was pissed i didn't take her. Since i wasn't married i could take mom for free or pay 2700 to take the girl. I am a cheapskate. So she cancelled my broadway tixs. So to appease her i told mom i told her we could visit her family in the bronx. Til this day I remember the 90 dollar to the bronx. i made the mistake of saying let's get something to eat. We ended up in city island with me getting stuck with the bill. I ate a burger and drank water. THEY WERE EATING LOBSTER and drinking wine. I was pissed at her cousin and husband. The bill ended up being over 650. So when mom told me this one bit the dust...i felt bad for mom but said good riddance. She supposedly watched me as a child in texas but I don't remember. Felt bad for other 3 because the mother was 55 and her daughters was 33 and 35.

**CanuckG** · 06-14-20, 03:09 PM

covid mask plays gonna pop off

**dlowilly** · 06-14-20, 05:34 PM

Wow ugly futures

**antifoil** · 06-14-20, 05:45 PM

the trade desk volatility is so crazy. it has a beta of 2.59, currently. i played with it last year. i got in when it was 140. sold at 190. bought back in later at 200 sold at 250. i have it on my watchlist. if it ever get back to low 200s, i will get back in.

the only stock i really trust right now is amazon. its an instance buy if ever time it goes back to below 2,000. doubt i will. probably be at 3000 by the end of the year.

**KVB** · 06-14-20, 06:04 PM

I think I might start accumulating TESLA.

How else do we get a piece of Space X or Starlink?

We want Starlink! There is huge incentive for big money to make sure that system gets set up and built out. It reminds me of the high speed networks they put in so Chicago traders could access the stock exchange faster.

Starlink speeds are way better than the cross atlantic link or the one from Chicago.

This is probably the biggest exchange trading news in decades, or at least since the high speed connections were put in place, it's hardly heard about.

**homie1975** · 06-14-20, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by antifoil

the trade desk volatility is so crazy. it has a beta of 2.59, currently. i played with it last year. i got in when it was 140. sold at 190. bought back in later at 200 sold at 250. i have it on my watchlist. if it ever get back to low 200s, i will get back in.

the only stock i really trust right now is amazon. its an instance buy if ever time it goes back to below 2,000. doubt i will. probably be at 3000 by the end of the year.

It's about 10% of qqq so I've been enjoying the wave

**KVB** · 06-14-20, 06:11 PM

**JayLA** · 06-14-20, 06:17 PM

Where can we find the history and reasons likely mentioned in articles for dips and rallys for a company?

**JayLA** · 06-14-20, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by KVB

I think I might start accumulating TESLA.

How else do we get a piece of Space X or Starlink?

We want Starlink! There is huge incentive for big money to make sure that system gets set up and built out. It reminds me of the high speed networks they put in so Chicago traders could access the stock exchange faster.

Starlink speeds are way better than the cross atlantic link or the one from Chicago.

This is probably the biggest exchange trading news in decades, or at least since the high speed connections were put in place, it's hardly heard about.

I added to my percentage in TESLA recently before their 1000 breakthrough didn't sell befoer the dip but buying more next week, hoping for continued growth
I have a "big" percent of portofolio in Disney, Zoom (my winner), paypal, casinos, and airlines and stocks i plan to hold
For day trading penny stocks i like REMARK, a company i think is going to pop soon.

**KVB** · 06-14-20, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by JayLA

I added to my percentage in TESLA recently before their 1000 breakthrough didn't sell befoer the dip but buying more next week, hoping for continued growth
I have a "big" percent of portofolio in Disney, Zoom (my winner), paypal, casinos, and airlines and stocks i plan to hold
For day trading penny stocks i like REMARK, a company i think is going to pop soon.

I like it (all your positions), and if I were you I wouldn't sell the Tesla but consider writing covered calls when you think it's run up enough or will pull back.

That's my plan, but I need a decent position in it first. Will take a while to build it up.