@@@SAINTS vs. VIKINGS in game thread@@@

**Kermit** · 01-14-18, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by bonusguy

exactly. saints just didnt want to give up a penalty. they got scared of the refs (nfl)

He didn't have to hit him early though. If he just tackles Diggs after he makes the catch, the game is over.

**d2bets** · 01-14-18, 08:27 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

#43 of Saints was on the fix. He flopped that tackle worse than a soccer player.

Not a fix, guy's just a dumb puzzy. He will never live that down.

**ChuckyTheGoat** · 01-14-18, 08:27 PM

Williams was worried about interfering. Gave him too much cushion. Then tried to close + make a hit.

All he had to was wrap up, game over.

**spurginobili** · 01-14-18, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Joe Buck called kneel down most anticlamatic moment in nfl history. Al Michaels disagrees.

Exactly.

That was unbelievable, legendary. lol

And an all-time infamous moment for NO

**RoyBacon** · 01-14-18, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

Why would they kick an ET with a -5 spread? They go for 2 to be up by a 7 but since there is no time they kneel so no one can get hurt.

Those of us nursing +5.5 got a huge break there. Don't think I even saw an EP knelled in the NFL. That rule must of changed or my memory is failing. Either way the NFL should change that.

**Kermit** · 01-14-18, 08:28 PM

Would have been better if Diggs said that he did it for Millie.

**Bluehorseshoe** · 01-14-18, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

#43 of Saints was on the fix. He flopped that tackle worse than a soccer player.

I agree!!

**convick** · 01-14-18, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by Kermit

He didn't have to hit him early though. If he just tackles Diggs after he makes the catch, the game is over.

After watching a few more replays he was covering him way too close and couldn't adjust in time so instead of running into Diggs he took a dive. Not sure refs call PI if he hits him as the ball is getting there.

**Mac4Lyfe** · 01-14-18, 08:30 PM

Originally posted by pavyracer

Why would they kick an ET with a -5 spread? They go for 2 to be up by a 7 but since there is no time they kneel so no one can get hurt.

Because the game was over. It is poor etiquette in football, just like basketball to score once the game is decided. You go for 2 and the other team goes for Keenums knees.

**Yankfan4life2** · 01-14-18, 08:31 PM

Wow some of you guys really think that last play wasn't rigged?!? These are professional players we're talking about, not some high school players. That play looked straight out of madden. Check where the public bets were on that over/under...smh

**Plaza23** · 01-14-18, 08:31 PM

Originally posted by convick

After watching a few more replays he was covering him way too close and couldn't adjust in time so instead of running into Diggs he took a dive. Not sure refs call PI if he hits him as the ball is getting there.

I'm not sure if he would have been able to tackle him in bounds because if Diggs momentum was taking him out, he probably would have been able to make it. But you can't just put your head down and dive at a guy's legs and come up with air.

**funnyb25** · 01-14-18, 08:32 PM

Very easy win for the Vikes

On to next weekend

**LT Profits** · 01-14-18, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by RoyBacon

Those of us nursing +5.5 got a huge break there. Don't think I even saw an EP knelled in the NFL. That rule must of changed or my memory is failing. Either way the NFL should change that.

Seen it several times, always in this situation with team scoring TD on last play of game to win. PAT is meaningless so winning team does not want to rub it in.

**Mac4Lyfe** · 01-14-18, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by RoyBacon

Those of us nursing +5.5 got a huge break there. Don't think I even saw an EP knelled in the NFL. That rule must of changed or my memory is failing. Either way the NFL should change that.

Didn't it happen in the Pat's/Steelers game a few weeks ago? I've seen it at least 2 times this year. I've also seen the Bronco's return an XP for 2 points against the Saint's, last year or year before. They won the game on it. The game was already over, so you don't kick the XP or run a 2pt conversion. The opposing team is already pissed and you try and run up the score and they are going for someone's knees.

**Mac4Lyfe** · 01-14-18, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by Yankfan4life2

Wow some of you guys really think that last play wasn't rigged?!? These are professional players we're talking about, not some high school players. That play looked straight out of madden. Check where the public bets were on that over/under...smh

You obviously never played football before... Too much Madden for you.

**Bluehorseshoe** · 01-14-18, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by RoyBacon

Those of us nursing +5.5 got a huge break there. Don't think I even saw an EP knelled in the NFL. That rule must of changed or my memory is failing. Either way the NFL should change that.

Eagles/Raiders game 4 weeks ago.

**bonusguy** · 01-14-18, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat

Williams was worried about interfering. Gave him too much cushion. Then tried to close + make a hit.

All he had to was wrap up, game over.

yes thats what i think. saints in the t.o. were telling the players no P.I. calls no matter what. no penalties after a catch so he went for the perfect low form tackle and looked stupid

**convick** · 01-14-18, 08:34 PM

Originally posted by Yankfan4life2

Wow some of you guys really think that last play wasn't rigged?!? These are professional players we're talking about, not some high school players. That play looked straight out of madden. Check where the public bets were on that over/under...smh

Total at 45-46.5 at lots of shops most the week. At 24-23 the over had already hit. Was the rig in for the over 47?

**maggiethebestdog** · 01-14-18, 08:35 PM

Either 43 is in on a fix or he is the dumbest human being on the planet
I'll guess the latter

**Yankfan4life2** · 01-14-18, 08:35 PM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

You obviously never played football before... Too much Madden for you.

I have...and I've played madden as well...where are you getting at? All he had to do was wait for him to catch it and wrap him up or contest the football, he did neither.

**shocka1212** · 01-14-18, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by shocka1212

still how I feel

**Yankfan4life2** · 01-14-18, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by convick

Total at 45-46.5 at lots of shops most the week. At 24-23 the over had already hit. Was the rig in for the over 47?

My book opened up at 48 and dropped to 46 before gametime.

**maggiethebestdog** · 01-14-18, 08:37 PM

Originally posted by bonusguy

yes thats what i think. saints in the t.o. were telling the players no P.I. calls no matter what. no penalties after a catch so he went for the perfect low form tackle and looked stupid

You can't tackle someone before the ball gets there
Either break up the pass or tackle him immediately after the catch
Not a hard play

**Mac4Lyfe** · 01-14-18, 08:38 PM

Originally posted by ChuckyTheGoat

Williams was worried about interfering. Gave him too much cushion. Then tried to close + make a hit.
All he had to was wrap up, game over.

Exactly... When that ball is up in the air, it is very difficult to judge it and the receiver. Then the next thing you know, you over run the play and out of position. Adrenaline is flowing high in that moment, it is hard to be focused. Coaching should have told them in that moment to stand on the goal line and let them catch the ball but for some reason they thought the Vikings had enough time to get out of bounds, so they were playing press coverage on the corners. They were in outside zone pressing everything inside where a catch wins you the game but they attack the sidelines like they should and got lucky as shit.

**shocka1212** · 01-14-18, 08:38 PM

36 point 2nd half............

I'm still up on the weekend.. but sheesh.. gonna need a cold shower and a cigarette after this L.

**Mac4Lyfe** · 01-14-18, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by Yankfan4life2

I have...and I've played madden as well...where are you getting at? All he had to do was wait for him to catch it and wrap him up or contest the football, he did neither.

Missed tackle in the heat of the moment. If you played then surely you did it more than a dozen times???

Marcus Williams is in the first year of a 4 year contract. He got $4 million guaranteed. Do you really think he would take a dive in his first year? How much money would it take to get to him? Maybe in his last year (which would also be stupid if he wanted a job somewhere else) but in his first year?? Come on man.

**maggiethebestdog** · 01-14-18, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

Missed tackle in the heat of the moment. If you played then surely you did it more than a dozen times???

Marcus Williams is in the first year of a 4 year contract. He got $4 million guaranteed. Do you really think he would take a dive in his first year? How much money would it take to get to him? Maybe in his last year (which would also be stupid if he wanted a job somewhere else) but in his first year?? Come on man.

Missed tackle?????
That is how you describe his error on that play???

**Yankfan4life2** · 01-14-18, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by Mac4Lyfe

Missed tackle in the heat of the moment. If you played then surely you did it more than a dozen times???

Marcus Williams is in the first year of a 4 year contract. He got $4 million guaranteed. Do you really think he would take a dive in his first year? How much money would it take to get to him? Maybe in his last year (which would also be stupid if he wanted a job somewhere else) but in his first year?? Come on man.

These guys are professionals bro. The attempt wasnt even close is why I'm having a hard time believing it wasn't a dive.

**pavyracer** · 01-14-18, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by LT Profits

Seen it several times, always in this situation with team scoring TD on last play of game to win. PAT is meaningless so winning team does not want to rub it in.

I remember seeing the kneel down on another game after a TD was scored with no time left.

**pavyracer** · 01-14-18, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by Yankfan4life2

These guys are professionals bro. The attempt wasnt even close is why I'm having a hard time believing it wasn't a dive.

It loooked like a dive to me. Seen it in soccer and basketball many times.

**shocka1212** · 01-14-18, 08:49 PM

sad to say I was on the wrong end of this one too... not sure which stung more.. Fast forward to 9:15 mark... Knicks +12.5

**Mac4Lyfe** · 01-14-18, 08:49 PM

Originally posted by maggiethebestdog

You can't tackle someone before the ball gets there
Either break up the pass or tackle him immediately after the catch
Not a hard play

Did you see how fast Williams ran up to try and blow up the play? He looked like he was shot out of a cannon. That pass was on the money. In the right spot. Diggs could have gotten out of bounds to setup the FG kick. Williams came up so fast because in one instance he wanted to blow him up so he don't get out of bounds but he can't hit him early either. Perfect play, perfect timing, tough play for a guy that has been solid all year. Ducked his head because he was expecting a huge hit and he whiffed.

Anyone played safety before knows the gut wrenching feeling when you know you're the last line of defense and the guy get's by you.

**daneblazer** · 01-14-18, 08:51 PM

Lol game wasn’t fixed you goombas

**ikid2groove415** · 01-14-18, 08:52 PM

Originally posted by daneblazer

Lol game wasn’t fixed you goombas

I swear Williams did a wwe move bro lol!!

**Ralphie Halves** · 01-14-18, 08:53 PM

Let's see, what is the better outcome, financially and non-financially for Williams?

a] Winning the game and going to the NFC Championship where they would have likely been favored

b] Throwing the game, being the whipping boy for the rest of NFL history by making sure the game went over the total

I swear...