Trump Tax Plan

[pilebuck13]

What u have described is nothing but red meat for a jackass like you. What is it 20 people in the countrybut u find it some big huge problem just like u are supposed to think by the people pedaling this nonsense.

So you believe a man with a dik in our "public" schools should be able to say there a women and it's just supposed to be excepted? Gross dude. You need mental help.

Holding out hope? For what? I don't need to be a billionaire comfortably make 90-100 k a year middle class yah know house,car ,boat, dog ,kids. Don't need to spend my life worrying about how much money a billionaire is paying in taxes is my point and if you do your obviously broke.

Look at the neighbor and be jealous of the home and car they have just like a bitch a jealous bitch get all mad and sassy at what the next man has.

[brooks85]

^

liberals are just losers and haters

[pilebuck13]

^

liberals are just losers and haters

[TheMoneyShot]

Such nonsense. Completely untrue. And Buffet is actually giving most to the Gates Foundation.

Explain to me what is untrue about my original post? You were kind of vague.

You highlighted "Not to mention... kids are basically getting the $."

I didn't say this was an inheritance. But he did donate billions to his kids non profit organizations. Right?

Millions of other non profit organizations out there... I wonder why he selected his kids?

[Otters27]

Anyone know the income levels for those that are going to pay 10% under Trump's plan?

[brooks85]

lol for moneyshot asking why he selected his kids. I didn't see your post at first otters.






"should we tell him why lizard queen?"


lol I know you know why, just a funny a pic of them in context of your question

[TheMoneyShot]

lol for moneyshot asking why he selected his kids. I didn't see your post at first otters.






"should we tell him why lizard queen?"


lol I know you know why, just a funny a pic of them in context of your question

lol I'm just saying... I never said Warren Buffet was an a$$hole or anything. lol I'm just saying there's reasons for everything in what someone does. Not necessarily 100% in good nature.

I think there are some SBR Posters that need to do some research in non-profits.

[khicks26]

that is the liberal agenda for ya combined with blowing up the budget



There is a reason fortune 500 companies love liberals and their regulations, they get giddy about making their lower revenue competitors have to pay more while simultaneously putting more barriers to entry for any new guys.

Very basic stuff here, simple game theory. Your reply that shows your denial is always funny. "They aren't liberals, they're neoliberals.... the left doesn't exist anymore"


lol you're funny

The budget is blown up, we spend a trillion a year on war & surveillance.

What does Trump do? Cut tax's & spend more.

If anyone puts up barriers its the fortune 500 companies. They don't want competition. That's why they buy the politicians.

Tell me what is so left wing today.

[khicks26]

So you believe a man with a dik in our "public" schools should be able to say there a women and it's just supposed to be excepted? Gross dude. You need mental help.

Holding out hope? For what? I don't need to be a billionaire comfortably make 90-100 k a year middle class yah know house,car ,boat, dog ,kids. Don't need to spend my life worrying about how much money a billionaire is paying in taxes is my point and if you do your obviously broke.

Look at the neighbor and be jealous of the home and car they have just like a bitch a jealous bitch get all mad and sassy at what the next man has.

WOW dude whats up with you. Not the same guy you were a few months ago.

Real angry & using all the alt-right lingo. Been reading Breitbart?

[guitarjosh]

They also benefit from the system the most, get bigger tax breaks, & corporate welfare.

They don't pay 35% either. The effective rate is anywhere between 0 & 25%. Which puts the US near the bottom of all industrialized countries.

Corporations don't need a tax break. All this has been done before, the jobs didn't come back & the wealth divide got worse. This may even turn the US into a 3rd world country. We are already a banana republic with our corruption & bought & paid for politicians.

Can you say neo-feudalism. If not, give it a few years.

Actually the poor and middle benefit more than the rich.

There were a couple studies done by the world bank that found corporate rates were over 30%.

If we want to remain competitive, they do. We haven't cut corporate taxes in decades.

[RoyBacon]

Explain to me what is untrue about my original post? You were kind of vague.

You highlighted "Not to mention... kids are basically getting the $."

I didn't say this was an inheritance. But he did donate billions to his kids non profit organizations. Right?

Millions of other non profit organizations out there... I wonder why he selected his kids?

Most of these libs will resort to name calling because when it comes to substance they got nothing.

They would love to tell you tax cuts are a bad idea but they can't. The talking points they get from CNN is that rich dudes will also get a tax cut so it must be unfair.

Guys like Jtroller are not at all interested in more good jobs. In fact most of the liberals at SBR are on government assistance and not one considered themselves a member of the "working class" in the Trump thread. Trump won the working class vote by an historic 30 points. And they love him. But the non working class and hard core libs are scared to death he is going to run the table and their dream of a socialistic state will die.

The dream of taking more from the rich to give to the lazy begins swirling down the drain when you give them a tax cut.

[khicks26]

Actually the poor and middle benefit more than the rich.

There were a couple studies done by the world bank that found corporate rates were over 30%.

If we want to remain competitive, they do. We haven't cut corporate taxes in decades.

Not true, we spend more on corporations than services for the public.

Before or after loopholes. Were they using the effective rate.

There's no need for it. They are not going to invest the money in the US anyway. If you go by the history of the last 40 years.

[guitarjosh]

Not true, we spend more on corporations than services for the public.

Before or after loopholes. Were they using the effective rate.

There's no need for it. They are not going to invest the money in the US anyway. If you go by the history of the last 40 years.

We need to end corporate welfare. All that does combined with the corporate tax is take money from profitable companies and give it to their less profitable competition.

Effective.

They would if they would get the best ROI here, but that is currently taxed away in America.

[khicks26]

We need to end corporate welfare. All that does combined with the corporate tax is take money from profitable companies and give it to their less profitable competition.

Effective.

They would if they would get the best ROI here, but that is currently taxed away in America.

Agree.

I'm sure there are some that pay 30%. But then you have the ones that get refunds & make billions in profit.

Do we really want that if their paying shit wages & use our tax dollars for a bigger & better police state.

LOL OH never mind, we have that already. The MIC is killing us, we need to get rid of the economy based on war.

[boneheaded1]

Copy paste this from CNN ? Obama spent more money then any president in history

Actually, no. that was all mine 100% original critical thinking. Where you are spouting political progaganda. My post was not political in any way, you just politicized it. And your comment is a non-sequitor which has nothing at all to do with post. Unless of course Obama tried to lower taxes in such large increment at once then right after sought increased spending. And that last comment was not an endorsement of Obama. It was just stating that I don't remember him ever doing that. Would be happy be proven wrong though.

[boneheaded1]

[QUOTE=Ralphie Halves;26929174]I'm getting lazy with the responding to quotes, so I'll just answer the bold parts.

Cherry picking for your own argument eh?

"Something that makes companies want to be here, not" OK fine companies move their "headquarter's" back, but that doesn't create half as many jobs as you will think. Most companies that "left" (tax inversions) are still and their corporate headquarters are still here, just not on paper.

Yes, the US does make, er, I mean assemble tons of stuff, but if you had kept reading you would have seen other reasons why it still won't amount to much in job creation.

And I am glad it will benefit you as a small business owner, small business owners have needed a break. Question: as a business owner how many people will you hire because of this tax cut?

But make no mistake, this will put us in a deeper hole as a nation but that's OK because you will have a few extra grand in your pocket until the debt load comes crashing down.

[boneheaded1]

I make my own money and work my ass off for it and have no bad taste for a billionaire who wants to whipe his ass with 100 dollar bills for all I care. Tired of the money I make going to lazy people on welfare who wine all day that the billionaires need to give more of there money away. Go out and get it, it's out there.

Point in case I don't need anyone's money or charity I don't need a billionaire to give me shit and I don't need trickle down economics to solve my financial situation. I believe in a flat tax across the board for everyone.

Btw I eat steaks bitch

Do you know how much of "your" money goes to those whiners on welfare. I mean as a % of the whole? Go ahead and google it. I'll wait.

[boneheaded1]

Pilebuck. Turn off Fox News dude. You are quoting them left and right.

[Snowball]

There shouldn't even BE a federal income tax, much less a tax
on personal labor of any kind.

Imports, Corporations, Use, Luxury Items, Interest Income, Investment Income,
these things should be taxed before any personal labor is.

Your personal labor should be none of the governments business.

Notice I said governments, because most Americans are controlled under
the auspices of at least 3, sometimes 4 layers of government.

There is a mass amnesia among the population, nobody even remembers
what freedom felt like anymore.

[DwightShrute]

how can anyone be against tax cuts for everyone is mind boggling to me.

[khicks26]

There shouldn't even BE a federal income tax, much less a tax
on personal labor of any kind.

Imports, Corporations, Use, Luxury Items, Interest Income, Investment Income,
these things should be taxed before any personal labor is.

Your personal labor should be none of the governments business.

Notice I said governments, because most Americans are controlled under
the auspices of at least 3, sometimes 4 layers of government.

There is a mass amnesia among the population, nobody even remembers
what freedom felt like anymore.

Agree, labor should not be taxed. We have it backwards as a nation.

You need to tax the free rents. Land being the most important along with what you listed.

[khicks26]

how can anyone be against tax cuts for everyone is mind boggling to me.

Because some of us know better.

[DwightShrute]

Because some of us know better.

[khicks26]

I can only lead you to water.

I can't make you learn.

[Snowball]

Agree, labor should not be taxed. We have it backwards as a nation.

You need to tax the free rents. Land being the most important along with what you listed.

No, they shouldn't tax property unless it is income-producing.
Look around, most municipalities have no reason to exist, the services
they provide can be bought for less on a per-diem basis.

[RoyBacon]

Lol. Love the video.

[rkelly110]

how can anyone be against tax cuts for everyone is mind boggling to me.

Yeah, they cut my hours at my job, I think I'll go out and buy a house hoping later down the road my hours will return
and get a raise sometime in the next 10 years to pay my monthly mortgage. Meanwhile I'll use my credit card to help
pay for the mortgage.

[Trident]

how can anyone be against tax cuts for everyone is mind boggling to me.

Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin today told ABC News chief anchor George Stephanopoulos that he couldn’t say how Donald Trump's sweeping tax overhaul plan would affect the president personally, while also declining to guarantee that middle-class families wouldn't pay more under the proposal

The genius behind this con job can't even guarantee everyone will pay less taxes. If you live in a state with a high income tax you're going to screwed over something good.

[khicks26]

No, they shouldn't tax property unless it is income-producing.
Look around, most municipalities have no reason to exist, the services
they provide can be bought for less on a per-diem basis.

That's what I meant. A small part of NY city is worth a Trillion dollars. Free Rents, the money a landlord makes for doing nothing but letting someone use their property.

Does not contribute to the real economy of production & consumption.

[Snowball]

don't even bother talking about it yet.

The Trump tax plan will likely look totally different if it is actually passed

Business Insider · 4 minutes ago

[DwightShrute]

[khicks26]

Still reliving the election?

Time to comeback to reality.

[JIBBBY]

Do you know how much of "your" money goes to those whiners on welfare. I mean as a % of the whole? Go ahead and google it. I'll wait.

Welfare and freebies to the lazy and poor is what is putting this Country in debt..

We need more jobs, better schooling, less immigrants, but most of all we need to stop rewarding poor ghetto people whom have more and more babies to get more free government money.. Each additional baby means more free housing space and a $200 increase in welfare per month benefits.. There should be a penalty for having babies when on welfare..

This Welfare Nation needs to stop!!




Ever wonder why mostly all of the poor and welfare recipients always like to vote Democratic? This is why -

[Snowball]

Welfare and freebies to the lazy and poor is what is putting this Country in debt..

I agree we need better solutions in that regard, but it's not why the U.S.
is in debt. There are much bigger reasons.

1. Report Reveals $8.5 Trillion Missing From Pentagon Budget ...

Funny how the government doesn't seem concerned about this.

[chico2663]

I want to know from the yay sayers on when has tax cuts helped the economy other than the one time Reagan did it?

Many states have been doing it for years and they are all in the hole, billions.

Did you guys forget that just 10 years ago Bush tried the same thing? Do you remember what happened?

Idiocy is doing the same thing and expecting a different result. Your president is an idiot and so are the Repubs who
are pushing this.

That is a lie that the right likes to tell. The reason that it looked like it did so well is that they raised social security from 1.8 to 12.5 when you consider the companies part also. Johnson put social security from it's private fund into the general fund. That is the reason it looked like it worked. There is an autobiography about reagan where he said that he couldn't understand why trickle down didn't work.There are i.o.u's in the treasury and that is why they want to privatize it so it is gone. That is why cal. was screwed up under arnold. It was shy louisiana was screwed up with jindal. It is why kansas is going broke under brownback