Video shows man forcibly removed from United flight - this is insane people!

**newguy** · 04-11-17, 11:18 AM

Originally posted by brooks85

lol CEO's private email letter to employees got release. More BAD PR

this thread is hilarious, full of people who would never be able to run a successful business that involved customers. B2B you could do because they love contracts and following them to the letter, they thrive on it. But, posters like newguy and wikkid would make TERRIBLE business owners if they actually had to deal with customers. Just like the moron CEO at united. Not an insult to you guys, you're just out of touch with customer service and the intelligent way to run a business.

You and I see this situation differently brooks. Your coming at it from a small business owner mentality. You may not understand the perspective of the airlines and if you don't fly a ton it makes sense you don't. They offered $800. At that point the compensation due him for involuntary booting cost the airline less than further delaying the flight and trying to offer $1,000. It's a business decision and normally doesn't result in a situation like this. That said, The second he acted like he did he was getting booted for sure. Had to. Can't have a passenger act like that on a plane as you can see from the other videos. Captain wanted him off even if they didn't need the seat. United deals with 400,000 passengers a day. Your gonna piss some off but you have to have these types of thing happen to service the 399,999 you don't want to piss off daily.

You can say I couldn't be in customer service, but you may not fully get the entirety of the situation which I do. In your world - how should they have handled it? Don't say don't let them board - we all agree that's the easiest solution. But the situation I want your take on is you have a full plane and need 4 seats. What do you do??

**DwightShrute** · 04-11-17, 11:31 AM

**DwightShrute** · 04-11-17, 11:35 AM

**Auto Donk** · 04-11-17, 12:02 PM

haha.... just saw more videos of the incident.... you can't really tell from the original vids, but the third cop, the one they sent in to physically remove the guy, was a BLACK cop.....

they sent the pretty sizable, much stronger than the white cops BBC cop to get the job done.......

too damn funny!

**tony_come** · 04-11-17, 12:02 PM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

She's hot out of the 5. I'd bang her

**Auto Donk** · 04-11-17, 12:04 PM

here's the latest vids....

amid all the women screaming Oh my God! IS ONE guy telling the cops "good job".....

Critics mock United Airlines as CEO defends removing ‘belligerent’ passenger

https://www.yahoo.com/news/critics-mock-united-ceo-defends-removing-belligerent-passenger-115407065.html

United Airlines CEO Oscar Munoz defended the forcible removal of a passenger as “established procedure” as critics teased or outright mocked his statement.

**tony_come** · 04-11-17, 12:27 PM

Auto-what's your take of the situation?

**DwightShrute** · 04-11-17, 12:56 PM

Originally posted by tony_come

She's hot out of the 5. I'd bang her

lol

why do i get the feeling you rate pies on their bangabilty?

**Auto Donk** · 04-11-17, 01:01 PM

Originally posted by tony_come

Auto-what's your take of the situation?

some airport police outfit got physical with him.... airline, despite all the bad press and humor being had at their expense, is off the hook....

most states have laws insulating or limiting the damages you can recover, not sure what Illinois might have on its books.... he'll probably find a lawyer to prosecute it, but if it winds up being removed to federal court on the basis of diversity jurisdiction, he'll have a harder time succeeding.... in chicago, he'll wind up with blacks on the jury as well.... and here we have a black cop and a screaming china man..... ask yourself how black people feel about asians.....

we'll see

**chico2663** · 04-11-17, 01:19 PM

Originally posted by newguy

Wasnt random. Your contract of carriage tell you the order of involuntary denied boarding. He was at the bottom of that list. His actions were disgusting and selfish. Hope he loses patients because of it.

Sorry buddy but your just wrong. Overselling is where you sell more tickets than you have seats. That wasn't the case here. Also they let him board. Once they allowed him board then they lose all rights. Whomever sold the tickets screwed up. A pilot decided to stay in chicago a little longer and then wanted to make his flight. If united was so right then why have they already suspended the guard that grabbed him. United does a lot of business in china and now I heard that Chinese people are not going to be buying from united. Big boo boo. Had to go see a lawyer who was salivating about having this guys case. Said he was one of the few who has read the 41 pages and said they have about 5 suits on united for what he sees

**chico2663** · 04-11-17, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

there's a lot of truth to that statement.

I am guessing he was asked to leave more than once. Probably very calmly and respectfully. United lawyers (if he decides to sue) will likely make that case but it will probably be cheaper to settle out of court.

Doctors are gods to themselves. Passenger was an internest sp

**Cuse0323** · 04-11-17, 01:21 PM

Originally posted by daneblazer

All of this could have been avoided if the guy just handed the cop a Pepsi

I was gonna say early retirement for this guy, but stuck around. Still probably gets something.

Thought I heard the next flight wasn't until the next day. Still, if they were throwing out $800 in straight cash then I'd say make it $2000, and settle on $1000 and a rental. Then drive the four fckin hours.

I know it was probably airline money, so I'd sit my ass there and watch.

**chico2663** · 04-11-17, 01:40 PM

Originally posted by Auto Donk

some airport police outfit got physical with him.... airline, despite all the bad press and humor being had at their expense, is off the hook....

most states have laws insulating or limiting the damages you can recover, not sure what Illinois might have on its books.... he'll probably find a lawyer to prosecute it, but if it winds up being removed to federal court on the basis of diversity jurisdiction, he'll have a harder time succeeding.... in chicago, he'll wind up with blacks on the jury as well.... and here we have a black cop and a screaming china man..... ask yourself how black people feel about asians.....

we'll see

dude there are as more chinese then any city beside san fran. Guy i used to work with name moy father was a big slum lord. He used to ship them pack them in room like mexicans and charge each one 600. This was in the 80's. When his father died he got over 300 million after estate taxes. Asshole owes me 20.

**chico2663** · 04-11-17, 01:43 PM

Guy is name dr. dow from louisville. He got busted for peddling drugs. Isn't it a shame that they bring up shit from 20years ago.

**bosigga** · 04-11-17, 01:51 PM

Originally posted by chico2663

Sorry buddy but your just wrong. Overselling is where you sell more tickets than you have seats. That wasn't the case here. Also they let him board. Once they allowed him board then they lose all rights. Whomever sold the tickets screwed up. A pilot decided to stay in chicago a little longer and then wanted to make his flight. If united was so right then why have they already suspended the guard that grabbed him. United does a lot of business in china and now I heard that Chinese people are not going to be buying from united. Big boo boo. Had to go see a lawyer who was salivating about having this guys case. Said he was one of the few who has read the 41 pages and said they have about 5 suits on united for what he sees

The officer who grabbed him is a city employee, not United's - and already has been suspended while they investigate

**DwightShrute** · 04-11-17, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by chico2663

Guy is name dr. dow from louisville. He got busted for peddling drugs. Isn't it a shame that they bring up shit from 20years ago.

unless it Trump of course right?

**newguy** · 04-11-17, 02:03 PM

Originally posted by chico2663

Sorry buddy but your just wrong. Overselling is where you sell more tickets than you have seats. That wasn't the case here. Also they let him board. Once they allowed him board then they lose all rights. Whomever sold the tickets screwed up. A pilot decided to stay in chicago a little longer and then wanted to make his flight. If united was so right then why have they already suspended the guard that grabbed him. United does a lot of business in china and now I heard that Chinese people are not going to be buying from united. Big boo boo. Had to go see a lawyer who was salivating about having this guys case. Said he was one of the few who has read the 41 pages and said they have about 5 suits on united for what he sees

I'm wrong contractually or wrong because you disagree? Because we don't see eye to eye doesn't make me wrong. The contract of carriage says what it says. You may find a lawyer that's going to argue the semantics of oversold flight but that doesn't make me wrong. Just makes him a lawyer.

**jjgold** · 04-11-17, 02:46 PM

All they had to do is ask passsengers who wants free vouchers to get off

20 people would accepted

They show of stripped him and then whipped him with strap

Guy deserves to be in jail

**brooks85** · 04-11-17, 04:07 PM

uh-oh...

This was United’s real mistake

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/uniteds-real-mistake-173844672.html

The airline seems to think so, but it may come down to whether the company complied with government rules on what airlines must do when passengers are involuntarily bumped. The Transportation Department says airlines must “give all passengers who are bumped involuntarily a written statement describing their rights and explaining how the carrier decides who gets on an oversold flight and who doesn’t.” There’s no evidence United did that. In an internal email published by the Associated Press, United CEO Oscar Munoz said company employees “followed our involuntary denial of boarding process (including offering up to $1,000 in compensation).” But he didn’t say whether those employees followed government rules, including issuing the written statement and giving an explanation for why a given passenger was singled out for bumping.

**wikkidinsane** · 04-11-17, 04:19 PM

Originally posted by DwightShrute

unless it Trump of course right?

remember trayvon martin case? And numeroud cases after that? When they brought up the persons past? Was it wrong then?

**TheMoneyShot** · 04-11-17, 04:28 PM

They only offer maximum of $1,000 in an air travel voucher?

Seems awfully low when clearly it's the airlines fault.

What if someone had an important business meeting to get to? You can't just grab the next flight. You'd be late.

Every time I travel I plan everything perfectly... things don't go 100% correct... I get that... but overbooking isn't the passengers fault.

Seems like every person should receive at least $2,000 in compensation. WTF does United think this is?? 1990?

**YorkHunt** · 04-11-17, 04:30 PM

We all wish we were in his shoes right now, lets be real.

**chico2663** · 04-11-17, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by newguy

I'm wrong contractually or wrong because you disagree? Because we don't see eye to eye doesn't make me wrong. The contract of carriage says what it says. You may find a lawyer that's going to argue the semantics of oversold flight but that doesn't make me wrong. Just makes him a lawyer.

Your wrong because a lawyer that has read the 49 pages of fine print says so.If you would of read the whole paragraph I wrote then you wouldn't have to ask.

**YorkHunt** · 04-11-17, 04:33 PM

**chico2663** · 04-11-17, 04:37 PM

over sold means you have sold more tickets than you have seats. When you sell 100 seats on a 100 seat plane. That is called full capacity. If you decide that you want to put your employees on and bump people buying seats then that is not over sold. At least that is what the lawyer on msnbc just said. Seems the airlines realizes they screwed up but he has already found an attorney.

**chico2663** · 04-11-17, 04:38 PM

United Airlines confirms that beatings will continue until volunteering improves

**brooks85** · 04-11-17, 04:46 PM

they are still coming lol

**TheMoneyShot** · 04-11-17, 05:02 PM

Clearly the Chinese dude is going to win this lawsuit easily.

What's sad is that.... you're going to see a lot more people act this way while being removed.

What's my reasoning?

I really don't care what the fine print reads in situations like this. You can't put your hands on someone... anyone for that matter. You allowed him to board the plane. That was the airlines first mistake. Secondly, why did you single him out for? He wasn't doing anything illegal or wrong. 20 million easily awarded. That's without any heavy work on this case.

**brooks85** · 04-11-17, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by TheMoneyShot

Clearly the Chinese dude is going to win this lawsuit easily.

What's sad is that.... you're going to see a lot more people act this way while being removed.

What's my reasoning?

I really don't care what the fine print reads in situations like this. You can't put your hands on someone... anyone for that matter. You allowed him to board the plane. That was the airlines first mistake. Secondly, why did you single him out for? He wasn't doing anything illegal or wrong. 20 million easily awarded. That's without any heavy work on this case.

since it was the cops that put their hands on him he will most likely not get any award for it. They can do whatever they want and just fall back on the "just doing my job" excuse. The reality is if we lived in a logical society the cops would have boarded the plane, heard the situation and said "don't waste our time with customers behaving, whatever issues you have caused is your problem. Not his." then left the plane.

instead they are just giddy at the opportunity to hurt people.

and if the link I posted is accurate, I'm not going to read the actual contract, then united is ******. Really? 2017 and we are using *** still?

SBR needs a poll for the word penetrate-ed

lol

**Booya711** · 04-11-17, 05:10 PM

Originally posted by chico2663

Sorry buddy but your just wrong. Overselling is where you sell more tickets than you have seats. That wasn't the case here. Also they let him board. Once they allowed him board then they lose all rights. Whomever sold the tickets screwed up. A pilot decided to stay in chicago a little longer and then wanted to make his flight. If united was so right then why have they already suspended the guard that grabbed him. United does a lot of business in china and now I heard that Chinese people are not going to be buying from united. Big boo boo. Had to go see a lawyer who was salivating about having this guys case. Said he was one of the few who has read the 41 pages and said they have about 5 suits on united for what he sees

Completely wrong Chico. This guy was 100% full on dumbfukk. This happens all the time day after after day at the airport and there are never instances like this.

Also, the cop doesn't work for United so United didn't suspend him. United followed all procedures and when the guy wouldn't get off the plane, they had to call the cops. United is not liable for any of this idiot's actions.

**brooks85** · 04-11-17, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by Booya711

Completely wrong Chico. This guy was 100% full on dumbfukk. This happens all the time day after after day at the airport and there are never instances like this.

Also, the cop doesn't work for United so United didn't suspend him. United followed all procedures and when the guy wouldn't get off the plane, they had to call the cops. United is not liable for any of this idiot's actions.

leave it to a hillary supporter to be completely wrong and not know the facts. I guess the "not know the facts" was redundant because I said hillary supporter already.

**Booya711** · 04-11-17, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by TheMoneyShot

Clearly the Chinese dude is going to win this lawsuit easily.

What's sad is that.... you're going to see a lot more people act this way while being removed.

What's my reasoning?

I really don't care what the fine print reads in situations like this. You can't put your hands on someone... anyone for that matter. You allowed him to board the plane. That was the airlines first mistake. Secondly, why did you single him out for? He wasn't doing anything illegal or wrong. 20 million easily awarded. That's without any heavy work on this case.

The only entity this guy can sue is the Chicago PD. United did nothing wrong.

if he did sue and win, it would set a bad precedent. Everyone would then act like a whiny bitch and not get off the plane in this situation. I will save the cops he trouble if I ever see it and throw the fukk off the plane myself.

**brooks85** · 04-11-17, 05:18 PM

Originally posted by Booya711

The only entity this guy can sue is the Chicago PD. United did nothing wrong.

if he did sue and win, it would set a bad precedent. Everyone would then act like a whiny bitch and not get off the plane in this situation. I will save the cops he trouble if I ever see it and throw the fukk off the plane myself.

lol again, total clueless clown

**Booya711** · 04-11-17, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by brooks85

lol again, total clueless clown

You don't get out much

**Booya711** · 04-11-17, 05:22 PM

Originally posted by brooks85

leave it to a hillary supporter to be completely wrong and not know the facts. I guess the "not know the facts" was redundant because I said hillary supporter already.

This proves what a fukking idiot you are because I have never been a Hillary supporter. Go back to the political threads.