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  • khicks26
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 09-16-06
    • 45449

    #386
    Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
    The left was quick to attack Labour voters who chose to leave and side with international bankers, aren't you a little embarrassed about this?

    The left hasn't cared about the concerns of working class folk in a long time.
    Why would I be embarrassed? What makes you think the right gives a shit about working people?

    I do think Jeremy Corbyn cares about workers. But this is not really about Left or Right, its about people vs the establishment & doing away with neoliberalism which is being pushed by the left & the right. Its not like the right is not bought & paid for just like the left. Only a fool would think that.
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    • Dr.Gonzo
      SBR MVP
      • 12-05-09
      • 4660

      #387
      Originally posted by khicks26
      Why would I be embarrassed? What makes you think the right gives a shit about working people?

      I do think Jeremy Corbyn cares about workers. But this is not really about Left or Right, its about people vs the establishment & doing away with neoliberalism which is being pushed by the left & the right. Its not like the right is not bought & paid for just like the left. Only a fool would think that.
      Because the organized left is pushing for the side of the establishment, there's a rift between people on the left concerned with workers rights and the more dominate cultural marxists. I'd be concerned about the rot in my movement if I were you.

      UKIP is more right than the Tories, yet they do care about the English working class. I agree with your assessment as it pertains to Cameron and his ilk, the major parties no longer represent the people.

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      • grease lightnin
        SBR Posting Legend
        • 10-01-12
        • 16015

        #388
        Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
        Exposed.

        Jim Cramer is a clown, Wall Street and traders love him because he is entertaining, no one takes anything he says seriously.


        Yeah? How many wall street traders do you know? My guess is zero.

        Jim Cramer averaged 24% annualized returns over his 12 yr hedge fund career with only one down year. He graduated magna *** laude from harvard and has a harvard law degree as well. Yea.... real clown he is.

        As Opie says we are so blessed to have such intellectual, knowledgeable, and talented posters here ar SBR.
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        • khicks26
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 09-16-06
          • 45449

          #389
          Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
          Because the organized left is pushing for the side of the establishment, there's a rift between people on the left concerned with workers rights and the more dominate cultural marxists. I'd be concerned about the rot in my movement if I were you.

          UKIP is more right than the Tories, yet they do care about the English working class. I agree with your assessment as it pertains to Cameron and his ilk, the major parties no longer represent the people.

          Much like the US both parties are bought & paid for. There really is no left wing party, just center right, right wing & far right. But I will say that its not as bad in the UK as in the US.

          Cameron & Blair types are the sellout liberals like Clinton & Obama. Jeremy Corbyn is Bernie Sanders & someone that cares about the people. UKIP is the pissed off far right Tea Party with a legitimate rage at the system that is screwing them, the rage is just directed at the wrong people & not the wealthy behind the scenes controlling the system. All caused by a lack of a true left wing party.
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          • chico2663
            BARRELED IN @ SBR!
            • 09-02-10
            • 36915

            #390
            Originally posted by packerd_00
            He doesn't get whats going on with the Open Border mate.
            just went on a website and according to the web site the guy is right. Most are nigerians and pakistani's. I thought If you were part of a colony of u.k. than you get a pass into the u.k. Wasn't nigeria a colony from the u.k. lee rigbys killers were born in the uk but their parents were nigerian? You would know better than I but I was wondering.
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            • Dr.Gonzo
              SBR MVP
              • 12-05-09
              • 4660

              #391
              Originally posted by grease lightnin
              Yeah? How many wall street traders do you know? My guess is zero.

              Jim Cramer averaged 24% annualized returns over his 12 yr hedge fund career with only one down year. He graduated magna *** laude from harvard and has a harvard law degree as well. Yea.... real clown he is.

              As Opie says we are so blessed to have such intellectual, knowledgeable, and talented posters here ar SBR.
              Probably more than you.

              Jim Cramer is a dancing monkey.
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              • Dr.Gonzo
                SBR MVP
                • 12-05-09
                • 4660

                #392
                Originally posted by khicks26
                Much like the US both parties are bought & paid for. There really is no left wing party, just center right, right wing & far right. But I will say that its not as bad in the UK as in the US.

                Cameron & Blair types are the sellout liberals like Clinton & Obama. Jeremy Corbyn is Bernie Sanders & someone that cares about the people. UKIP is the pissed off far right Tea Party with a legitimate rage at the system that is screwing them, the rage is just directed at the wrong people & not the wealthy behind the scenes controlling the system. All caused by a lack of a true left wing party.
                UKIP are directing their rage at bureaucrats, internationalists and bankers. You just refuse to admit anyone who isn't a marxist could do something positive.
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                • grease lightnin
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 10-01-12
                  • 16015

                  #393
                  Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                  Probably more than you.

                  Jim Cramer is a dancing monkey.

                  A dancing monkey who is far more accomplished than you are, I am sure. My 17 year old son has a habit of trashing people with a broad brush who are more accomplished than he is. I am trying to break him of it so he avoids looking like an ignorant jackass as an adult.
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                  • khicks26
                    SBR Aristocracy
                    • 09-16-06
                    • 45449

                    #394
                    Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                    UKIP are directing their rage at bureaucrats, internationalists and bankers. You just refuse to admit anyone who isn't a marxist could do something positive.
                    Not that up on the actions of UKIP, I don't live in the UK. But most are saying its because of the immigration problem. Which is anger directed at people who really hold no power.

                    People need to look at the cause of the immigration, wars in the Middle East. Who wants the wars in the Middle East?

                    I also hear that war in the Ukraine is becoming a problem as well. Who started the war in the Ukraine? I don't blame the UK for not wanting a ton of immigrants, I blame them for allowing what is causing it & blaming the wrong people.
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                    • Dr.Gonzo
                      SBR MVP
                      • 12-05-09
                      • 4660

                      #395
                      Originally posted by grease lightnin
                      A dancing monkey who is far more accomplished than you are, I am sure. My 17 year old son has a habit of trashing people with a broad brush who are more accomplished than he is. I am trying to break him of it so he avoids looking like an ignorant jackass as an adult.
                      I'm actually a big fan of Jim Cramer.

                      Try practicing what you preach, Trump's done more than you can even dream of.
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                      • chico2663
                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                        • 09-02-10
                        • 36915

                        #396
                        Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                        I'm actually a big fan of Jim Cramer.

                        Try practicing what you preach, Trump's done more than you can even dream of.
                        Yes he has caused more small business to go under. He gets the work and then pays nothing!
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                        • Dr.Gonzo
                          SBR MVP
                          • 12-05-09
                          • 4660

                          #397
                          Originally posted by khicks26
                          Not that up on the actions of UKIP, I don't live in the UK. But most are saying its because of the immigration problem. Which is anger directed at people who really hold no power.

                          People need to look at the cause of the immigration, wars in the Middle East. Who wants the wars in the Middle East?

                          I also hear that war in the Ukraine is becoming a problem as well. Who started the war in the Ukraine? I don't blame the UK for not wanting a ton of immigrants, I blame them for allowing what is causing it & blaming the wrong people.
                          Both progressives and neoconservatives support interventionist foreign policy, what you consider the "far" right is against interventionism. Blame the interventionist left and milquetoast conservatives.
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                          • grease lightnin
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 10-01-12
                            • 16015

                            #398
                            Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                            I'm actually a big fan of Jim Cramer.

                            Try practicing what you preach, Trump's done more than you can even dream of.
                            If you read my posts regarding Trump--I don't think i've made any comments that generalized him as an ignoramus. The biggest issue I had with him was his comment reagrding the US debt. I also think what he wants to do with trade will have an effect similar to what you are seeing with the brexit. Which I know you think is great but I expected that, par for the course.

                            You are part of a growing global contingent of morons who would consider the opinion of some joe shmoe youtuber who lives in his mom's basement before you would listen to anyone who you deem to be part the the establishment.

                            The stupidity of this is mind boggling, but hey, knock yourself out genius.

                            "Dr Gonzo" trump voter. Can't make this shit up.
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                            • khicks26
                              SBR Aristocracy
                              • 09-16-06
                              • 45449

                              #399
                              Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                              Both progressives and neoconservatives support interventionist foreign policy, what you consider the "far" right is against interventionism. Blame the interventionist left and milquetoast conservatives.
                              Like I just told you. There is no true left party. Quit making it a left right issue. Its people vs the establishment, if your on the right or left. Your starting to believe your own propaganda.

                              People like us WE could work shit out. People who want money & power don't give a shit what we want. As long as we are fighting each other & not them.
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                              • Dr.Gonzo
                                SBR MVP
                                • 12-05-09
                                • 4660

                                #400
                                Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                If you read my posts regarding Trump--I don't think i've made any comments that generalized him as an ignoramus. The biggest issue I had with him was his comment reagrding the US debt. I also think what he wants to do with trade will have an effect similar to what you are seeing with the brexit. Which I know you think is great but I expected that, par for the course.

                                You are part of a growing global contingent of morons who would consider the opinion of some joe shmoe youtuber who lives in his mom's basement before you would listen to anyone who you deem to be part the the establishment.

                                The stupidity of this is mind boggling, but hey, knock yourself out genius.

                                "Dr Gonzo" trump voter. Can't make this shit up.
                                I don't listen to opinions, I look at data.
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                                • Dr.Gonzo
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 12-05-09
                                  • 4660

                                  #401
                                  Originally posted by khicks26
                                  Like I just told you. There is no true left party. Quit making it a left right issue. Its people vs the establishment, if your on the right or left. Your starting to believe your own propaganda.

                                  People like us WE could work shit out. People who want money & power don't give a shit what we want. As long as we are fighting each other & not them.
                                  Whilst I'm sure we can find middle ground on some issues, we have fundamental beliefs that can not be reconciled. If my ideas were enforced you would find it intolerable, whilst if the situation were reversed I would find it intolerable. This is why I advocated self determination and separatism but you shot that down.
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                                  • khicks26
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 09-16-06
                                    • 45449

                                    #402
                                    Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                                    Whilst I'm sure we can find middle ground on some issues, we have fundamental beliefs that can not be reconciled. If my ideas were enforced you would find it intolerable, whilst if the situation were reversed I would find it intolerable. This is why I advocated self determination and separatism but you shot that down.
                                    Take away the BS, the money grubbers, lies & propaganda. Were more alike than you think. No need to enforce anything that's the problem.

                                    Were both against war & intervention. That's more than half the problems right there. As long as we don't threaten one another, there will be common ground. You fuk with me & I will fuk you up. You would do the same. We don't have to love one another to live together.
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                                    • grease lightnin
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 10-01-12
                                      • 16015

                                      #403
                                      Originally posted by Dr.Gonzo
                                      I don't listen to opinions, I look at data.
                                      Oh really? Aren't you always touting Rothbard? Lol

                                      He was a sound money guy who thought we should revalue gold based on the monetary base and the debt, and then take all the gold in ft knox and exchange it for any encumberance.

                                      Do you realize this would put gold at over $15,000 an ounce and devalue our currency by 12:1???

                                      Instant hyper-inflation at the recommendation of a sound money guy.

                                      Looking at data, are you?
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                                      • DwightShrute
                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                        • 01-17-09
                                        • 102469

                                        #404
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                                        • packerd_00
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 05-22-13
                                          • 17780

                                          #405
                                          Originally posted by chico2663
                                          just went on a website and according to the web site the guy is right. Most are nigerians and pakistani's. I thought If you were part of a colony of u.k. than you get a pass into the u.k. Wasn't nigeria a colony from the u.k. lee rigbys killers were born in the uk but their parents were nigerian? You would know better than I but I was wondering.
                                          Oh their a lot from from those two countries that is true,but they've been trying to stop **** applications from Pakistan. Funny Kenya was a colony aswell but you don't see a lot of Kenyans in Britain.

                                          Your also right about the parents of Lees killers being from Nigeria,actually one of the guys was born Christian,but it shows you the reach radical Islam has. Most of the prisons in Britain are becoming Islam majority,alot of white prisioners are converting inorder to keep themselves safe.

                                          http://tribune.com.pk/story/1012598/unofficial-policy-britain-rejecting-pakistani-****-applicants-in-droves/
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                                          • packerd_00
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 05-22-13
                                            • 17780

                                            #406
                                            Got nothing against India,we get a lot of immigrants from their being a former colony,but they've assimilated pretty well.
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                                            • brooks85
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 01-05-09
                                              • 44709

                                              #407
                                              green today like clockwork. A lot of stuff was on sale yesterday.
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                                              • packerd_00
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 05-22-13
                                                • 17780

                                                #408
                                                Brooks,just wait Brexit will become a non story soon enough,just like everything else.
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                                                • grease lightnin
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 10-01-12
                                                  • 16015

                                                  #409
                                                  Where did Dr Gonzo go???
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                                                  • DwightShrute
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 01-17-09
                                                    • 102469

                                                    #410
                                                    Originally posted by packerd_00
                                                    Got nothing against India,we get a lot of immigrants from their being a former colony,but they've assimilated pretty well.
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                                                    • rkelly110
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 10-05-09
                                                      • 39691

                                                      #411
                                                      Originally posted by grease lightnin
                                                      Where did Dr Gonzo go???
                                                      Probably to bed. He's on the other side of the world.
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                                                      • brooks85
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 01-05-09
                                                        • 44709

                                                        #412
                                                        some fool on tv saying there should be a second vote because the first was ran on a serious of lies that don't stack up...


                                                        you don't say?

                                                        Last I saw the stay vote got 40+% and you're going to people it was ran on a serious of lies.... lol the comedy


                                                        chicken littles everywhere
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                                                        • DwightShrute
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 01-17-09
                                                          • 102469

                                                          #413
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                                                          • packerd_00
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 05-22-13
                                                            • 17780

                                                            #414
                                                            Originally posted by brooks85
                                                            some fool on tv saying there should be a second vote because the first was ran on a serious of lies that don't stack up...


                                                            you don't say?

                                                            Last I saw the stay vote got 40+% and you're going to people it was ran on a serious of lies.... lol the comedy


                                                            chicken littles everywhere
                                                            They can all go f@ck themselves,its done enough of the bitching from clowns that are just worried about themselves.
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                                                            • brooks85
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 01-05-09
                                                              • 44709

                                                              #415
                                                              epic^


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                                                              • packerd_00
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 05-22-13
                                                                • 17780

                                                                #416
                                                                Originally posted by brooks85
                                                                epic^


                                                                He was spot on, they need us more then we need them.
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                                                                • THE_LOCKSMITH
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 08-25-08
                                                                  • 7237

                                                                  #417
                                                                  never heard of this Farage guy until the last couple months but i like his style, talking shit to the EU parliament
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                                                                  • The Kraken
                                                                    BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                                    • 12-25-11
                                                                    • 28917

                                                                    #418
                                                                    Originally posted by packerd_00
                                                                    He was spot on, they need us more then we need them.
                                                                    He just trolled the entire EU parliament

                                                                    That was funny
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                                                                    • ACoochy
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 08-19-09
                                                                      • 13949

                                                                      #419
                                                                      Just occurred to me that brexit and the terrorist attacks within Europe are accomplishing the same thing ie to separate Europe and weaken economies...

                                                                      Crazy times...
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                                                                      • packerd_00
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 05-22-13
                                                                        • 17780

                                                                        #420
                                                                        Originally posted by The Kraken
                                                                        He just trolled the entire EU parliament

                                                                        That was funny
                                                                        Lol! pretty much called them out as a bunch of lazy pansies.
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