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  • InTheDrink
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    • 11-23-09
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    #36
    Originally posted by jnickell100
    Can't argue that? Kershaw is having one of the best pitching seasons ever this year.
    fyi has anyone noticed theyre all in the national league while king felix is dominating the offensive circuit?
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    • jnickell100
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      #37
      Originally posted by InTheDrink
      fyi has anyone noticed theyre all in the national league while king felix is dominating the offensive circuit?
      Figured you or jmobile would respond to that. You're both dodger haters. But please don't compare Felix to kershaw. There is no comparison between the two.
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      • InTheDrink
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        • 11-23-09
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        #38
        Originally posted by jnickell100
        Figured you or jmobile would respond to that. You're both dodger haters. But please don't compare Felix to kershaw. There is no comparison between the two.


        go ahead and explain

        we're waiting
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        • jnickell100
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          • 11-11-09
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          #39
          Maybe someone else can compare side by side but:
          kershaw--era 1.87 compared to Felix 2.3
          kershaw whip---.86 compared to Felix 1.06
          kershaw3complete game so--3 Felix 0
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          • InTheDrink
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            • 11-23-09
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            #40
            Originally posted by jnickell100
            Maybe someone else can compare side by side but:
            kershaw--era 1.87 compared to Felix 2.3
            kershaw whip---.86 compared to Felix 1.06
            kershaw3complete game so--3 Felix 0
            there probably isnt much difference between the american league and the national league

            apples to apples comparison

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            • stevenash
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              • 01-17-11
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              #41
              Ever?Gibson in 1968 says hello,Pedro had a couple of better seasons too
              QUOTE=jnickell100;19297216]Can't argue that? Kershaw is having one of the best pitching seasons ever this year.[/QUOTE]
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              • InTheDrink
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                • 11-23-09
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                #42
                Originally posted by stevenash
                Ever?Gibson in 1968 says hello,Pedro had a couple of better seasons too
                Originally posted by jnickell100
                Can't argue that? Kershaw is having one of the best pitching seasons ever this year.
                nasher even you know gibbie's season was overrated (but still great) because of the mound height

                nasher petey was the best pitcher over about a five year span any of us will ever see
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                • Smoke
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                  • 10-09-09
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                  #43
                  Originally posted by stevenash
                  I have had my eye on him since 2011
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                  • CanuckG
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                    • 12-23-10
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                    #44
                    Originally posted by jnickell100
                    Maybe someone else can compare side by side but:
                    kershaw--era 1.87 compared to Felix 2.3
                    kershaw whip---.86 compared to Felix 1.06
                    kershaw3complete game so--3 Felix 0
                    facing the weak NL helps

                    Felix light years ahead of Kershaw
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                    • CanuckG
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                      • 12-23-10
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                      #45
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                      • FearTheBeard
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                        • 05-28-13
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                        #46
                        Fernandez even hit a sac fly tonight. 14K's like Darvish the other night. Keeping my eyes on those 2 they gon' be dealing for years if they can stay healthy.
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                        • jnickell100
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                          • 11-11-09
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                          #47
                          Originally posted by CanuckG
                          facing the weak NL helps

                          Felix light years ahead of Kershaw
                          please kid. Light years ahead. You're high. Kershaw has been the best p in the last 3 years. So anyways I just looked over some numbers, the nl west collectivity has a higher team batting average than al west.

                          Also, your article is nice and cute about Hernandez.
                          Kershaw's run support per gm---3.22. Felix---4.43
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                          • stevenash
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                            • 01-17-11
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                            #48
                            Originally posted by InTheDrink
                            nasher even you know gibbie's season was overrated (but still great) because of the mound height

                            nasher petey was the best pitcher over about a five year span any of us will ever see
                            Bob Gibson changed the way the game was played after 1968, he's the reason why they lowered the mound.
                            Here's his 1968 game log, how many consecutive shut outs in June?
                            Look at all the 1-0, 2-1, 2-0 games also.



                            My favorite Gibby story, his catcher Tim McCarver comes out to the mound for a chat, Gibson points to the home plate, tells McCarver, "go back, what can you tell me about pitching except you can't hit it"


                            GREATEST SINGLE SEASON PITCHING PERFORMANCES

                            W-LERALg. Avg. ERARER
                            Pitcher
                            W-L ERA Lg. Avg. ERA RERA
                            2000 Pedro Martinez 19-9 1.74 4.91 .354
                            1994* Greg Maddux 16-6 1.56 4.21 .365
                            1968 Bob Gibson 22-9 1.12 2.99 .375
                            1995* Greg Maddux 19-2 1.63 4.18 .379
                            1999 Pedro Martinez 23-4 2.07 4.86 .425
                            1985 Dwight Gooden 24-4 1.53 3.59 .426
                            1996 Kevin Brown 17-11 1.89 4.34 .435
                            1997 Roger Clemens 21-7 2.05 4.57 .449
                            1997 Pedro Martinez 17-8 1.90 4.22 .451
                            1964 Dean Chance 20-9 1.64 3.63 .455
                            1981* Nolan Ryan 11-5 1.69 3.70 .456
                            1978 Ron Guidry 25-3 1.74 3.76 .463
                            1966 Sandy Koufax 27-9 1.73 3.61 .479
                            1953 Warren Spahn 23-7 2.10 4.29 .490
                            1964 Sandy Koufax 19-5 1.74 3.54 .492
                            1990 Roger Clemens 21-6 1.93 3.91 .494
                            1955 Billy Pierce 15-10 1.97 3.96 .497
                            1997 Randy Johnson 20-4 2.28 4.57 .499
                            1971 Tom Seaver 20-10 1.76 3.47 .507
                            Last edited by stevenash; 08-03-13, 09:37 AM.
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                            • LT Profits
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                              • 10-27-06
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                              #49
                              Originally posted by stevenash
                              Jimmenez was 2:1 fave in Cleveland
                              You posted Hernandez +210 yesterday, and he wasn't. Miami was favored.
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                              • LT Profits
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                                • 10-27-06
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                                #50
                                Originally posted by jnickell100
                                Figured you or jmobile would respond to that. You're both dodger haters. But please don't compare Felix to kershaw. There is no comparison between the two.
                                Actually the two are extremely close and Hernandez actually has the slight edge right now, although it is very close and practically a toss-up. Felix 2.45 FIP, Kershaw 2.47 FIP; Felix 2.60 xFIP, Kershaw 2.90 xFIP; Felix 4.9 WAR, Kershaw 4,5 WAR.
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                                • InTheDrink
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                                  • 11-23-09
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                                  #51
                                  1.74 era in the middle of the steroid era

                                  obfukkinscene

                                  pedro
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                                  • stevenash
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                                    • 01-17-11
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                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by LT Profits
                                    You posted Hernandez +210 yesterday, and he wasn't. Miami was favored.
                                    I posted the run line, sorry about that, -110/+210
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                                    • stevenash
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                                      • 01-17-11
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                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by InTheDrink
                                      1.74 era in the middle of the steroid era

                                      obfukkinscene

                                      pedro

                                      Maddux too.
                                      Thing is it's a tough comparison, two different leagues, two different styles of pitching..............
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                                      • InTheDrink
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                                        • 11-23-09
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                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by stevenash
                                        Maddux too.
                                        Thing is it's a tough comparison, two different leagues, two different styles of pitching..............
                                        agreed....but even as a phils fan i acknowledge that most of the big offenses were in the AL in that era...AL teams averaged around a quarter run per game more than NL teams in that era

                                        This is the greatest performance I've ever seen given the circumstances

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                                        • stevenash
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                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by InTheDrink
                                          but even as a phils fan
                                          1972 Phils win 59 lose 97, Carlton goes 27 and 10
                                          Now if you add the two games he started that the Phils won and he got a No Decision in, Steve Carlton started 50% of all the games the Phillies won that season.

                                          Now that is what I call a great single season performance.

                                          Want to see something you'll never see again, click on this game log link of all Carlton's starts that year in 1972, look at the IP column, foget all the nine inning games he pitched, look how many 10 inning plus games he pitched in.

                                          Pay even closer attention to the innings pitched column in Sept/Oct

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                                          • jnickell100
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                                            #56
                                            What site are you getting all this shit from Nash.?
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                                            • stevenash
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                                              #57
                                              Originally posted by jnickell100
                                              What site are you getting all this shit from Nash.?
                                              Define shit? The stat links?
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                                              • jnickell100
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                                                #58
                                                Originally posted by stevenash
                                                Define shit? The stat links?
                                                Yes your stats. Meant "shit" in a good way lol. You always come up with these obscure hard to find stats.
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                                                • InTheDrink
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                                                  • 11-23-09
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                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by stevenash
                                                  1972 Phils win 59 lose 97, Carlton goes 27 and 10
                                                  Now if you add the two games he started that the Phils won and he got a No Decision in, Steve Carlton started 50% of all the games the Phillies won that season.

                                                  Now that is what I call a great single season performance.

                                                  Want to see something you'll never see again, click on this game log link of all Carlton's starts that year in 1972, look at the IP column, foget all the nine inning games he pitched, look how many 10 inning plus games he pitched in.

                                                  Pay even closer attention to the innings pitched column in Sept/Oct

                                                  http://www.baseball-reference.com/pl...&t=p&year=1972
                                                  41 starts and 37 decisions

                                                  is 30 cg's a lot?
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                                                  • stevenash
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                                                    • 01-17-11
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                                                    #60
                                                    Originally posted by jnickell100
                                                    Yes your stats. Meant "shit" in a good way lol. You always come up with these obscure hard to find stats.
                                                    baseball-reference.com
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                                                    • stevenash
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                                                      • 01-17-11
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                                                      #61
                                                      Originally posted by InTheDrink
                                                      is 30 cg's a lot?
                                                      Only 25 or so pitchers in this era start 30 games all season now
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                                                      • InTheDrink
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                                                        • 11-23-09
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                                                        #62
                                                        Originally posted by stevenash
                                                        baseball-reference.com
                                                        best sports site ever made
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                                                        • TheLock
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                                                          #63
                                                          Totally shocked that a Jose Fernandez thread turns into a Kershaw/Felix pissing contest.
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                                                          • jnickell100
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                                                            • 11-11-09
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                                                            #64
                                                            Originally posted by TheLock
                                                            Totally shocked that a Jose Fernandez thread turns into a Kershaw/Felix pissing contest.
                                                            Ya I know. My fault. I hijacked the thread.
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                                                            • LT Profits
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                                                              #65
                                                              Originally posted by TheLock
                                                              Totally shocked that a Jose Fernandez thread turns into a Kershaw/Felix pissing contest.
                                                              Well I DO think that everyone in this thread agrees that Fernandez is a stud, it is just about impossible to argue otherwise.
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                                                              • stevenash
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                                                                • 01-17-11
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                                                                #66
                                                                Just read he'll be shut down for the season Labor Day
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                                                                • You mad bro
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                                                                  #67
                                                                  Originally posted by stevenash
                                                                  Just read he'll be shut down for the season Labor Day
                                                                  itll ruin him
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                                                                  • stevenash
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                                                                    #68
                                                                    J Fernandez 4.0 0 0 0 0 6 0 50-37 2.27
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                                                                    • wagerjunkie
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                                                                      #69
                                                                      Originally posted by KingJD31
                                                                      He's not jenrry mejia good
                                                                      was this sarcastic or serious?

                                                                      what the hell ever happened to that kid?

                                                                      I remember the Mets touting him as their next Doc Gooden (before Harvey was ever even drafted) he came up for a few MLB starts, had a blazing fastball, then disappeared like a fart in the wind.
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