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  • illyTheKid
    SBR High Roller
    • 10-04-18
    • 156

    #31046
    Pitt!!
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    • CantTouchAyo
      SBR MVP
      • 11-26-10
      • 3873

      #31047
      20-14 +3.62x

      San Diego State +4.5 1x
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      • barnstorm
        SBR Sharp
        • 07-13-11
        • 340

        #31048
        Originally posted by CantTouchAyo
        20-14 +3.62x

        San Diego State +4.5 1x
        Whoa. Some serious steam on that one, and it's a late night game. Quickly down to SD State +2.5.
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        • The Hat
          SBR Wise Guy
          • 09-24-16
          • 676

          #31049
          Originally posted by barnstorm
          Whoa. Some serious steam on that one, and it's a late night game. Quickly down to SD State +2.5.
          For sure! Books must not be waiting on the Ayo trail of money to come in before the market change. Prob got some little guy in a back office hittin the refresh button on this thread.
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          • illyTheKid
            SBR High Roller
            • 10-04-18
            • 156

            #31050
            Originally posted by The Hat
            For sure! Books must not be waiting on the Ayo trail of money to come in before the market change. Prob got some little guy in a back office hittin the refresh button on this thread.
            That’s why less chat about it is better lol
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            • The Hat
              SBR Wise Guy
              • 09-24-16
              • 676

              #31051
              Originally posted by illyTheKid
              That’s why less chat about it is better lol
              money screams without ever sayin a word
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              • KDF500
                SBR MVP
                • 02-05-13
                • 2465

                #31052
                SDSU proficient on offense.
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                • barnstorm
                  SBR Sharp
                  • 07-13-11
                  • 340

                  #31053
                  ASU heating up. ASU looks like the deeper, faster team.

                  I passed because I could only get +2.5. Thought I'd watch it and see. Probably gonna stay on the sidelines or maybe even go ASU.

                  Some foul trouble for ASU.
                  Last edited by barnstorm; 12-11-20, 10:24 AM.
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                  • barnstorm
                    SBR Sharp
                    • 07-13-11
                    • 340

                    #31054
                    ASU looked like they were taking over and then SDSU went on an 18-2 run to break it open. SDSU a smart team. ASU talented but not so smart beyond Remy Martin.
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                    • The Hat
                      SBR Wise Guy
                      • 09-24-16
                      • 676

                      #31055
                      Aztecs better than most of the 10-20 ranked teams at the moment. Well coached too
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                      • CantTouchAyo
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-26-10
                        • 3873

                        #31056
                        21-14 +4.62x

                        Northeastern +6.5 1x
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                        • barnstorm
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 07-13-11
                          • 340

                          #31057
                          Originally posted by CantTouchAyo
                          21-14 +4.62x
                          Northeastern +6.5 1x
                          Hurry. Game tips at 1:30 EST.
                          You can actually get +7 -110 at some Books.
                          Last edited by barnstorm; 12-11-20, 05:26 PM.
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                          • The Hat
                            SBR Wise Guy
                            • 09-24-16
                            • 676

                            #31058
                            I play a few football teasers from time to time and thought I would look into what might be the most advantageous 'Ayo Plays' to add to these teasers from time to time.

                            YTD Ayo is:
                            8-2 on dawgs at +7 or less
                            14-5 on sides of 7 or less (regardless of dawg or fav) 74%
                            9-4 on sides of 3 or less (regardless of dawg or fav) 69%

                            Small sample size and was just looking for an option for some of these teaser slots.

                            Since my teasers are usually only for 5 hoop points, was lookin for the safest possible plays since I don't play a large volume of teasers. What may be more important though is how far off the losses/wins were from the spread.

                            Regardless, I still play the double digit Ayo plays for the same amount as the smaller lines in terms of straight plays - and think they will hold just as much value since the season is still early and things change throughout the season.

                            .
                            Last edited by The Hat; 12-11-20, 02:52 PM.
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                            • Joe Sharp
                              SBR MVP
                              • 06-01-09
                              • 3011

                              #31059
                              Lol. Ayo is hitting over 70%. Let's see how we can make that better.
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                              • illyTheKid
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 10-04-18
                                • 156

                                #31060
                                Originally posted by Joe Sharp
                                Lol. Ayo is hitting over 70%. Let's see how we can make that better.
                                The beauty about betting is you can bet whoever and however you want. Let the guy do what he wants and move on, my guy.
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                                • Letsgovols22
                                  SBR Sharp
                                  • 11-27-15
                                  • 310

                                  #31061
                                  Originally posted by Joe Sharp
                                  Lol. Ayo is hitting over 70%. Let's see how we can make that better.
                                  58%. Still good, but nobody hits 70%
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                                  • The Hat
                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                    • 09-24-16
                                    • 676

                                    #31062
                                    Originally posted by Joe Sharp
                                    Lol. Ayo is hitting over 70%. Let's see how we can make that better.
                                    My statement is misleading....certainly not trying to improve on the GOAT. Basically have several two team teasers that most of the time I used for football (7 points)....however, they also allow for 5 basketball points. Just off the top of my head it seemed like Ayo was actually outright winning on the small dawgs - therefore, I thought those might be the best plays to use for these teasers since I can't put every Ayo play into a teaser. Stats change throughout the year. Ayo always on fire early. The best hands down.

                                    I play every Ayo pick at a flat 10% of my season starting bankroll regardless of the line. Then I have a few teasers
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                                    • grounds250
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 01-19-19
                                      • 46

                                      #31063
                                      nothing wrong with that, best of luck
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                                      • Joe Sharp
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 06-01-09
                                        • 3011

                                        #31064
                                        Hat...I was being sarcastic with the 70% and just poking fun. If you are successful keep doing you!

                                        illy, my guy, you are absolutely right. Beauty about a posting forum is you can post whatever you want but guys can respond as well.

                                        Carry on fellas. No malice here, promise that.
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                                        • illyTheKid
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 10-04-18
                                          • 156

                                          #31065
                                          Originally posted by Joe Sharp
                                          Hat...I was being sarcastic with the 70% and just poking fun. If you are successful keep doing you!

                                          illy, my guy, you are absolutely right. Beauty about a posting forum is you can post whatever you want but guys can respond as well.

                                          Carry on fellas. No malice here, promise that.
                                          Same! Good luck buddy
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                                          • The Hat
                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                            • 09-24-16
                                            • 676

                                            #31066
                                            Originally posted by Joe Sharp
                                            Hat...I was being sarcastic with the 70% and just poking fun. If you are successful keep doing you!

                                            illy, my guy, you are absolutely right. Beauty about a posting forum is you can post whatever you want but guys can respond as well.

                                            Carry on fellas. No malice here, promise that.
                                            No worries pal. I'm more than fine with the 57% or so that Ayo provides year in and out....

                                            was just thinkin out loud over a pint of damson berry shine earlier
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                                            • Joe Sharp
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 06-01-09
                                              • 3011

                                              #31067
                                              Damn that sounds good. I'm about to pick up dinner and have a glass of zacapa (real good rum from Guatemala).

                                              Cheers!


                                              Lots of love for Iowa and Nevada tonight. Let's see if Ayo puts out either side (or opposite)....
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                                              • Mako-SBR
                                                SBR Sharp
                                                • 10-15-13
                                                • 492

                                                #31068
                                                Originally posted by The Hat
                                                I play a few football teasers from time to time and thought I would look into what might be the most advantageous 'Ayo Plays' to add to these teasers from time to time.
                                                YTD Ayo is:
                                                8-2 on dawgs at +7 or less
                                                14-5 on sides of 7 or less (regardless of dawg or fav) 74%
                                                9-4 on sides of 3 or less (regardless of dawg or fav) 69%

                                                Small sample size and was just looking for an option for some of these teaser slots.

                                                Since my teasers are usually only for 5 hoop points, was lookin for the safest possible plays since I don't play a large volume of teasers. What may be more important though is how far off the losses/wins were from the spread.

                                                Regardless, I still play the double digit Ayo plays for the same amount as the smaller lines in terms of straight plays - and think they will hold just as much value since the season is still early and things change throughout the season.

                                                .
                                                Meaninglessness due to the small sample as you correctly mentioned.

                                                Now go do the real leg work, and back test your theory by manually combing the thread and getting the figures for the entire past three seasons. Let me know when you’re done.
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                                                • The Hat
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 09-24-16
                                                  • 676

                                                  #31069
                                                  Originally posted by Mako-SBR
                                                  Meaninglessness due to the small sample as you correctly mentioned.

                                                  Now go do the real leg work, and back test your theory by manually combing the thread and getting the figures for the entire past three seasons. Let me know when you’re done.
                                                  No real theory - hence my statement of small sample size....we're in the same boat.

                                                  I actually started off looking into the last 5 Novembers and downshifted into this season only. Was really looking at an angle of dawgs winning outright early in the season
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                                                  • The Hat
                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                    • 09-24-16
                                                    • 676

                                                    #31070
                                                    On to the next
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                                                    • hawkeyeguy27
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 01-21-12
                                                      • 449

                                                      #31071
                                                      Iowa by 20+
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                                                      • CantTouchAyo
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 11-26-10
                                                        • 3873

                                                        #31072
                                                        21-15 +3.52x

                                                        IUPUI -2
                                                        Valpo -3
                                                        BYU ml -125
                                                        Belmont -5.5

                                                        1x each. GL
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                                                        • Joe Sharp
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 06-01-09
                                                          • 3011

                                                          #31073
                                                          GL Ayo! Hope you have a big day my friend!
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                                                          • barnstorm
                                                            SBR Sharp
                                                            • 07-13-11
                                                            • 340

                                                            #31074
                                                            Belmont steaming to -7.
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                                                            • CantTouchAyo
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 11-26-10
                                                              • 3873

                                                              #31075
                                                              ​Gardner Webb +14 1x
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                                                              • barnstorm
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 07-13-11
                                                                • 340

                                                                #31076
                                                                Originally posted by CantTouchAyo
                                                                ​Gardner Webb +14 1x
                                                                Gardner Webb was definitely at +14 when Ayo posted at 11:21 AM. By 11:48, it was down to +13.5 and at 11:51 it was down to +13.

                                                                There are more than just us guys here on SBR following Ayo. Somebody with some deep pockets, or maybe even some syndicates, are jumping on his picks. Or maybe it is just a lot of little guys like us and maybe his picks are being broadcast to other forums.

                                                                GL!
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                                                                • loveofsports
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 07-11-15
                                                                  • 199

                                                                  #31077
                                                                  How much money do you think is needed to move a line is the real question?
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                                                                  • JayDr3am
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 05-06-14
                                                                    • 18260

                                                                    #31078
                                                                    Originally posted by loveofsports
                                                                    How much money do you think is needed to move a line is the real question?
                                                                    depends.


                                                                    offshore? not much. but at a casino or a sportsbook its takes quite a bit
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                                                                    • thekoreanmang
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 03-17-14
                                                                      • 1422

                                                                      #31079
                                                                      Originally posted by barnstorm
                                                                      Gardner Webb was definitely at +14 when Ayo posted at 11:21 AM. By 11:48, it was down to +13.5 and at 11:51 it was down to +13.

                                                                      There are more than just us guys here on SBR following Ayo. Somebody with some deep pockets, or maybe even some syndicates, are jumping on his picks. Or maybe it is just a lot of little guys like us and maybe his picks are being broadcast to other forums.

                                                                      GL!
                                                                      Could be but, tbh, idk. As humans, we like to find patterns so while the Ayo moving markets theory could have merit, I think it has more to do with Ayo catching onto an edge a little bit sooner (even if just by minutes) than everyone else.
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                                                                      • barnstorm
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 07-13-11
                                                                        • 340

                                                                        #31080
                                                                        A one point cover! IUPUI hit two free throws to go up 3 with 5 seconds to go and didn't foul and Tenny State missed their 3 point attempt!
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