Sonny,Bean,Buck and Ayo's Hoops thread

**CantTouchAyo** · 12-05-16, 02:07 PM

Originally posted by TPowell

I'm leaning hard towards Rider +4.5. Rider HAS to attack inside and they do that a ton while Siena's interior defense is subpar at best. Rider is pretty bad at scoring in general (#284 in effective FG%). They should be able to win on the boards but tough to gauge considering how Rider has played less competition than Siena by far. Still, +4.5 at home is very tempting. Total just rides on if Siena can slow Rider down a little bit tempo wise and not get killed inside

Originally posted by TPowell

Under is definitely interesting. Going to do some first/second half analysis and see if a 1H under would be a good play as well

gl today powell

**TPowell** · 12-05-16, 02:09 PM

Def not a 1H under spot, somehow ALL of Rider's games have been higher scoring in the 1H than the 2H which is BACKWARDS AF. Weird. I think the 2H under will have a ton of value. I would bet that Rider's 2H O/U stats are probably like 1-5 at least

**TPowell** · 12-05-16, 02:24 PM

Rider starting PG Stevie Jordan is questionable. Somehow missed that. Some kind of facial injury? My guess is he plays but will have to see that before $1 goes on a poor offensive Rider team

**HeeluvaGuy** · 12-05-16, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by TPowell

I'm leaning hard towards Rider +4.5. Rider HAS to attack inside and they do that a ton while Siena's interior defense is subpar at best. Rider is pretty bad at scoring in general (#284 in effective FG%). They should be able to win on the boards but tough to gauge considering how Rider has played less competition than Siena by far. Still, +4.5 at home is very tempting. Total just rides on if Siena can slow Rider down a little bit tempo wise and not get killed inside

I think you may have that backwards. Both teams are averaging almost exactly 74 possessions per game this season (no OTs). However, Rider is historically the slower team of the two (no recent coaching changes). The question in my mind is whether Rider reverts to its more typical sub-70 possessions pace or if there hs been a shift in coaching philosophy and they will continue to play faster. That uncertainty is why I passed on this total.

**TPowell** · 12-05-16, 02:42 PM

Last post but an important one. He played in the last game with a crazy looking mask but only logged 11 minutes. Possibly happened during the game?

**TPowell** · 12-05-16, 02:46 PM

Originally posted by HeeluvaGuy

I think you may have that backwards. Both teams are averaging almost exactly 74 possessions per game this season (no OTs). However, Rider is historically the slower team of the two (no recent coaching changes). The question in my mind is whether Rider reverts to its more typical sub-70 possessions pace or if there hs been a shift in coaching philosophy and they will continue to play faster. That uncertainty is why I passed on this total.

I think with their offensive pace that high after 7 games, its safe to say they are making an effort to play faster. I read a lot of articles in the past 10 mins on the coach wanting to play faster (common I know) with Stevie Jordan at the PG spot. He's a 5'10 170 lb freshman. He's lightning quick so I think they're trying to exploit that this season. Still, they struggle a lot scoring the ball so 150+ is a lot

**readytowinem** · 12-05-16, 04:12 PM

In my research I noticed posts #22911 and #22917 said everything I needed to know to make an educated decision.

**TPowell** · 12-05-16, 05:00 PM

Good angle on LMU. Boise played AT Evansville on Saturday. Had to travel back to LA sometime Saturday night or Sunday morning and LMU hasn't played in like 10 days. May end up on LMU if the line doesn't explode before tip off. Hopefully that big one hits for the tailers

**DOM_Toretto** · 12-05-16, 05:16 PM

Originally posted by TPowell

Good angle on LMU. Boise played AT Evansville on Saturday. Had to travel back to LA sometime Saturday night or Sunday morning and LMU hasn't played in like 10 days. May end up on LMU if the line doesn't explode before tip off. Hopefully that big one hits for the tailers

Good point on Boise travel, BUT I'm not impressed by LMU's rest - they've only played 4 games this season vs. Boise's 8 games. That favors BSU to me. Means they might not have things figured out yet. And remember LMU's awful home court record the last few years.

**readytowinem** · 12-05-16, 05:25 PM

Originally posted by DOM_Toretto

Good point on Boise travel, BUT I'm not impressed by LMU's rest - they've only played 4 games this season vs. Boise's 8 games. That favors BSU to me. Means they might not have things figured out yet. And remember LMU's awful home court record the last few years.

**DOM_Toretto** · 12-05-16, 06:12 PM

Originally posted by readytowinem

Not spamming. LMU was 7-7 at home last season and 18-22 last 3 seasons at home. That's.... Not good.

**readytowinem** · 12-05-16, 06:36 PM

Originally posted by DOM_Toretto

Not spamming. LMU was 7-7 at home last season and 18-22 last 3 seasons at home. That's.... Not good.

Oh crap...the part I wrote after that didn't post! I was saying I was just messin with you Dom. Your take is always appreciated. Be nice to have you in here regularly tbh...

**JSchuch7** · 12-05-16, 07:53 PM

Siena giving up 43 1H points to a Rider team ranked 262 in adjusted offense

Brutal defensive performance from the Saints

**TPowell** · 12-05-16, 07:55 PM

2H under boys

**HeeluvaGuy** · 12-05-16, 08:07 PM

Originally posted by JSchuch7

Siena giving up 43 1H points to a Rider team ranked 262 in adjusted offense

Brutal defensive performance from the Saints

It's mostly pace. 39 1h possessions. Rider would still have 36+ at their average efficiency.

**TPowell** · 12-05-16, 08:55 PM

Gotta avoid OT and this under will hit

**TPowell** · 12-05-16, 09:00 PM

There's the jinx. Rider fouled up 2 with 10 secs left. Going to OT now prolly

**TPowell** · 12-05-16, 09:03 PM

Reverse jinx, guy missed the 2nd FT and Rider won in regulation

**weekndornah** · 12-05-16, 09:03 PM

We gucci. Thanks, Ayo.

**irishfan201** · 12-05-16, 09:04 PM

Cash it! Nice hit today ayo let's get the second one for an amazing night! 💸💸💸

**knicksrulez** · 12-05-16, 09:04 PM

Nice hit

**Earlerock** · 12-05-16, 09:15 PM

Chased that 1x game bet into a 2x winner @ half.

Nice hit ayo!

**pickle_texas** · 12-05-16, 10:48 PM

Loyola second half or pass ?

**pickle_texas** · 12-05-16, 10:54 PM

I took em -2.5 2h

**TPowell** · 12-05-16, 11:11 PM

damn 6-0 run to start. Down 13. Got +1.5. Gonna watch some netflix and quit following it

**SlickRick1382** · 12-05-16, 11:14 PM

Got them +9' Live for another 2 units.

Hoping they make a run

**readytowinem** · 12-05-16, 11:45 PM

Game of runs...

**SBRMAN23** · 12-05-16, 11:50 PM

What a run but then missed a game tying freebie but a min to go

**weekndornah** · 12-05-16, 11:53 PM

Damn, LMU fought hard in the 2nd half but just couldn't take the lead.

Teased the two picks with the Warriors destroying my Pacers tonight though.

Thanks Ayo, looking forward to tomorrow.

**SBRMAN23** · 12-05-16, 11:54 PM

Get em tomorrow ayo thanks for the picks bruh

**readytowinem** · 12-05-16, 11:55 PM

Kelvin AmAYO...how you gonna have Ayo in your name if you are going to blow the game??? Ughhhh

**SlickRick1382** · 12-06-16, 12:08 AM

Thought they should of tried to score with a little more time left in case they missed they could of fouled and had one more attempt.

I understand that you leave Boise time to score but you're putting the pressure on Boise to then win the game....

Just me personally...

**TPowell** · 12-06-16, 12:20 AM

Originally posted by SlickRick1382

Thought they should of tried to score with a little more time left in case they missed they could of fouled and had one more attempt.

I understand that you leave Boise time to score but you're putting the pressure on Boise to then win the game....

Just me personally...

yeah, makes no sense not to. Other team is gonna let you foul no matter what anyway. Just glad I got +1.5 from my local. Biggest decision of the night was +1.5 -110, +1 -105, or ML +105. Glad I got lucky

**knicksrulez** · 12-06-16, 07:38 AM

This is why money management is so important, thanks Ayo

**CantTouchAyo** · 12-06-16, 04:24 PM

Harvard -2 -115 2x