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  • Wallco99
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 01-01-11
    • 7261

    #3221
    If Atlanta Hawks lose tonight and their next game (2/25/13) by more than 3 points to the spread in both games, then on 2/27/13, the will be a JM v1 (A) bet as well as a v3 (C) bet. Just thought I would throw that out there.
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    • kdavis
      SBR Sharp
      • 02-01-09
      • 365

      #3222
      Originally posted by petters72
      Does anyone bet cracy on the A-bets? Thinking of the person telling about betting half the BR...I think I will try doing the same with a small BR and see where the strategy lands at the end of the NBA-season...
      Input???
      You need to read my post again. I never put half of my BR on an "A" game. I waited until there were two B games going the same night and basically put 25% of my BR on one of those games and 25% on the other. Also, I only did this on "VERSION 1 GAMES ". If I had tried this on version 2 or version 3 games I would have surely lost my bankroll. Also, If you play this on "A" games I think the results will be disastrous.
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      • J.M. Disciple
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 11-16-10
        • 5142

        #3223
        Wanted to throw this out there early since public will be pounding this line and it is for sure to go up.

        GSW (A) bet tomorrow. Its at -1 right now for my book and 74% consensus. Bogut is out, but he only plays like 5 games entire season so does not really matter. MIN is clearly no match and I am really confused about this line.

        SAC (B) no line available.
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        • Wallco99
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 01-01-11
          • 7261

          #3224
          Wallco NBA Chase 110
          2012-13 System to date: 57-2 (fin. series)
          System profit/loss: -5.30 units (fin. series)
          Current open series: 1 (-1.30 units)

          v1 Plays
          (A) 32-28
          (B) 15-12

          (C) 7-5
          (D) 3-2
          Losses: HOU (-35.91 u), ORL (-26.39 u)


          Games for (2/24/13)
          #59 Philadelphia @ N.Y. Knicks (M/L) (B) (7:05 pm EST)
          #61 Sacramento @ New Orleans (**) (A) (6:05 pm EST) **

          ** Denotes line not available at time of post


          We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
          System rules and backtest can be found in post #219.
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          • NZT-48
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 05-29-11
            • 522

            #3225
            shouldnt you pass on the Kings series?.......b/c u are not supposed to take the worst road teams in either conf no?.....thats a small filter I think most forget but to each his own


            Originally posted by stevex
            JM Traditional

            2/23/2013

            V3

            1. Atlanta Hawks A Bet

            2. Cleveland Cavs A Bet

            *The Kings will be a V2 B Bet against New Orleans on Sunday. Sorry for the abreviated post, will post official tomorrow.
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            • ChiLLx
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 12-24-11
              • 5412

              #3226
              Can anyone confirm if Sac is 7/5 B play? It should be unless the "worst road record" filter is correct.
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              • Wallco99
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-01-11
                • 7261

                #3227
                Originally posted by ChiLLx
                Can anyone confirm if Sac is 7/5 B play? It should be unless the "worst road record" filter is correct.
                YES, it is a play for 7/5 bet #1
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                • analyzer
                  SBR MVP
                  • 02-03-11
                  • 2049

                  #3228
                  Thanks!
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                  • J.M. Disciple
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 11-16-10
                    • 5142

                    #3229
                    Originally posted by ChiLLx
                    Can anyone confirm if Sac is 7/5 B play? It should be unless the "worst road record" filter is correct.
                    Back test was not based on using this filter.
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                    • bateeeman22
                      SBR High Roller
                      • 02-22-13
                      • 100

                      #3230
                      Has someone the actual stats of the V2-3 system of the real john morrison system? V1 has actual a 34-1 serie.
                      Last edited by bateeeman22; 02-24-13, 07:35 PM.
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                      • play4win
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-23-11
                        • 2208

                        #3231
                        sacramento don't deserve a team! now you know why! bunch of scrubs.
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                        • NZT-48
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 05-29-11
                          • 522

                          #3232
                          use the filter folks.....to each his own is all


                          Originally posted by play4win
                          sacramento don't deserve a team! now you know why! bunch of scrubs.
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                          • bateeeman22
                            SBR High Roller
                            • 02-22-13
                            • 100

                            #3233
                            @ wallco99, after your post 229, are you sure cause of that seasons below, that your system is a profitable system? Just to look to the season 2008-09 with - 51 units, I find that's really questionable.

                            2011-12(75-5) **Strike shortened season**

                            (A) 46-31
                            (B) 11-20
                            (C) 10-10
                            (D) 5-5

                            Total loss : -20.63 units

                            2008-09 (86-6) THE BAD SEASON.Three losses involving large M/L.

                            (A) 48-44
                            (B) 20-24
                            (C) 13-11
                            (D) 5-6 (four of these won on next bet, too risky to play).

                            Total loss : -51 units

                            If there's a loss in one season that wasn't happened in john morrisons system v1 still today, you should change something or better go back to the original v1. The goal in one system is to make continued profits and the first goal of that is not to make lost money, so there should be reviewed seasons with no loss. If you have a system that makes in a few seasons big lost units then there's always a danger. You have to keep in mind on a road series that not each visiting team can hold the -110 line also not after 4 games no matter against which team. At the moment you also have not a + unit in this season. Why don't you simple bet the v1 system of john morrison?
                            Last edited by bateeeman22; 02-24-13, 09:51 PM.
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                            • Wallco99
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 01-01-11
                              • 7261

                              #3234
                              Originally posted by bateeeman22
                              @ wallco99, after your post 229, are you sure cause of that seasons below, that your system is a profitable system? Just to look to the season 2008-09 with - 51 units, I find that's really questionable.

                              2011-12(75-5) **Strike shortened season**

                              (A) 46-31
                              (B) 11-20
                              (C) 10-10
                              (D) 5-5

                              Total loss : -20.63 units

                              2008-09 (86-6) THE BAD SEASON.Three losses involving large M/L.

                              (A) 48-44
                              (B) 20-24
                              (C) 13-11
                              (D) 5-6 (four of these won on next bet, too risky to play).

                              Total loss : -51 units

                              If there's a loss in one season that wasn't happened in john morrisons system v1 still today, you should change something or better go back to the original v1. The goal in one system is to make continued profits and the first goal of that is not to make lost money, so there should be reviewed seasons with no loss. If you have a system that makes in a few seasons big lost units then there's always a danger. You have to keep in mind on a road series that not each visiting team can hold the -110 line also not after 4 games no matter against which team. At the moment you also have not a + unit in this season. Why don't you simple bet the v1 system of john morrison?
                              Why don't you try adding them ALL, and not just picking out two to prove some bogus point. 2010-11, for +85 units, alone outweighs the two seasons you quoted. So what's your point? Are you telling me that you have created some system which will win money EVERY season gauranteed, and for some reason you choose not to post it? Or are you new to sportsbetting, and read John Morrison's website and honestly believe that he has created a system that never loses, and feel that any system that may have a losing season somewhere along the way is automatically non-profitable. You are misguided. There is a very simple solution. If you don't like it, then don't play it. And YES I am sure it is profitable. My system is is no way related to JM system, you may be getting confused.
                              Last edited by Wallco99; 02-24-13, 10:31 PM.
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                              • longstrangetrip
                                SBR Hustler
                                • 01-08-13
                                • 80

                                #3235
                                Wallco,

                                I am relatively new to this site, (any site for that matter) I just want to thank you for all of your efforts regarding both your NBA and NHL systems. Not sure why there are so many people trying to personally attack you, second guess, change or alter your system.

                                Not that my thoughts mean much, just wanted you to know I appreciate you and your efforts.

                                Thanks
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                                • bateeeman22
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 02-22-13
                                  • 100

                                  #3236
                                  Originally posted by Wallco99
                                  Why don't you try adding them ALL, and not just picking out two to prove some bogus point. 2010-11, for +85 units, alone outweighs the two seasons you quoted. So what's your point? Are you telling me that you have created some system which will win money EVERY season gauranteed, and for some reason you choose not to post it? Or are you new to sportsbetting, and read John Morrison's website and honestly believe that he has created a system that never loses, and feel that any system that may have a losing season somewhere along the way is automatically non-profitable. You are misguided. There is a very simple solution. If you don't like it, then don't play it. And YES I am sure it is profitable. My system is is no way related to JM system, you may be getting confused.
                                  If you look at all your last seasons there's only little profit with some sweat seasons. I dont need that! Why should I post the john morrison original v1 system, you can buy it yourself at his site. I use his system cause I have checked the last seasons and there's no loss after since season 2008-09 he has made stats. It looks like you haven't tested it but are pissed of his system. Ok, if you think your system is profitable don't wonder if you get 3 seasons a row -51 units. That wouldn't be nice for your bankroll.

                                  Greetings
                                  Bateman
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                                  • knugen
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 12-09-09
                                    • 2612

                                    #3237
                                    Aahh and now kings facing heat in our bet 2
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                                    • Kev the Brit
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 10-25-09
                                      • 2027

                                      #3238
                                      Originally posted by stevex
                                      JM Traditional

                                      2/23/2013

                                      V3

                                      1. Atlanta Hawks A Bet

                                      2. Cleveland Cavs A Bet

                                      *The Kings will be a V2 B Bet against New Orleans on Sunday. Sorry for the abreviated post, will post official tomorrow.
                                      According to JM's rules (its in his pdf) the Kings should not be a traditional play. They are the worst road team in their conference. Whether or not Stevex personally chooses to play or ignore the filter is his business. Those of us without the pdf should be informed of the filters, so that they, like Stevex, have a choice.
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                                      • Kev the Brit
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 10-25-09
                                        • 2027

                                        #3239
                                        Originally posted by J.M. Disciple
                                        Back test was not based on using this filter.
                                        This is true. However, I suspect that when the 7/5 System was back-tested it would have been impossible to apply the filter using the archives. IMHO, regardless of whichever system picks the worst road team or picks the worst team ATS, that team should not have money put on them, period.
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                                        • petters72
                                          SBR High Roller
                                          • 05-16-09
                                          • 188

                                          #3240
                                          Originally posted by Kev the Brit
                                          This is true. However, I suspect that when the 7/5 System was back-tested it would have been impossible to apply the filter using the archives. IMHO, regardless of whichever system picks the worst road team or picks the worst team ATS, that team should not have money put on them, period.
                                          Cant you just check the team that lost?
                                          Where can i find the info about worst road team?
                                          Thanks
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                                          • Wallco99
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-01-11
                                            • 7261

                                            #3241
                                            Originally posted by bateeeman22
                                            If you look at all your last seasons there's only little profit with some sweat seasons. I dont need that! Why should I post the john morrison original v1 system, you can buy it yourself at his site. I use his system cause I have checked the last seasons and there's no loss after since season 2008-09 he has made stats. It looks like you haven't tested it but are pissed of his system. Ok, if you think your system is profitable don't wonder if you get 3 seasons a row -51 units. That wouldn't be nice for your bankroll.

                                            Greetings
                                            Bateman
                                            Oooooh......the newbies!
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                                            • Wallco99
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 01-01-11
                                              • 7261

                                              #3242
                                              Originally posted by petters72
                                              Cant you just check the team that lost?
                                              Where can i find the info about worst road team?
                                              Thanks
                                              No, you would also have to find a way to discard all the wins the worst team got as well, that would be the time consuming part.
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                                              • Wallco99
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 01-01-11
                                                • 7261

                                                #3243
                                                Wallco NBA Chase 110
                                                2012-13 System to date: 59-2 (fin. series)
                                                System profit/loss: -3.30 units (fin. series)
                                                Current open series: 0

                                                (2/24/13)
                                                #59 N.Y. Knicks (M/L) (B) - Win
                                                #61 New Orleans (M/L) (A) - Win

                                                v1 Plays
                                                (A) 33-28
                                                (B) 16-12

                                                (C) 7-5
                                                (D) 3-2
                                                Losses: HOU (-35.91 u), ORL (-26.39 u)



                                                There are no system plays for (2/25/13)


                                                We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
                                                System rules and backtest can be found in post #219.
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                                                • thelimit0310
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 01-24-11
                                                  • 1233

                                                  #3244
                                                  Apologies to all 7/5 followers, personal matters made me unavailable for posting the updates this past weekend. Luckily the only play that was missed was the Sacramento Bet 1 play, which unfortunately lost. If you missed the play, luck was on your side! Sacramento Bet 2 takes place tomorrow, 2/26.
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                                                  • TwoCats
                                                    SBR High Roller
                                                    • 07-14-12
                                                    • 227

                                                    #3245
                                                    Originally posted by Kev the Brit
                                                    Those of us without the pdf should be informed of the filters, so that they, like Stevex, have a choice.
                                                    Actually EVERYONE has access to the pdf - post 140 - thanks to Mrscofield25.
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                                                    • ChiLLx
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 12-24-11
                                                      • 5412

                                                      #3246
                                                      Sac is not even the worst road ATS team in conference. That would be the Lakers. So even if the filter was relevant that does not apply to Sac. Unless the filter means worst SU road record.
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                                                      • cambertos
                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                        • 06-16-12
                                                        • 329

                                                        #3247
                                                        Originally posted by longstrangetrip
                                                        Wallco,

                                                        I am relatively new to this site, (any site for that matter) I just want to thank you for all of your efforts regarding both your NBA and NHL systems. Not sure why there are so many people trying to personally attack you, second guess, change or alter your system.

                                                        Not that my thoughts mean much, just wanted you to know I appreciate you and your efforts.

                                                        Thanks
                                                        kisssssssssssss ass
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                                                        • cambertos
                                                          SBR Sharp
                                                          • 06-16-12
                                                          • 329

                                                          #3248
                                                          Originally posted by Kev the Brit
                                                          According to JM's rules (its in his pdf) the Kings should not be a traditional play. They are the worst road team in their conference. Whether or not Stevex personally chooses to play or ignore the filter is his business. Those of us without the pdf should be informed of the filters, so that they, like Stevex, have a choice.
                                                          I cant in good conscious back the kings against the heat, unless the spread is off the charts !
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                                                          • bateeeman22
                                                            SBR High Roller
                                                            • 02-22-13
                                                            • 100

                                                            #3249
                                                            Originally posted by Wallco99
                                                            Oooooh......the newbies!
                                                            sry I have mistyped. Only max. 2 LOSSES each season!
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                                                            • Wallco99
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 01-01-11
                                                              • 7261

                                                              #3250
                                                              Originally posted by bateeeman22
                                                              sry I have mistyped. Only max. 2 LOSSES each season!
                                                              This John Morrison NBA system that you speak of, I never heard of it. Could you please elaborate on it a little?
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                                                              • alexknyc
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 03-22-11
                                                                • 861

                                                                #3251
                                                                Originally posted by bateeeman22
                                                                sry I have mistyped. Only max. 2 LOSSES each season!
                                                                And with odds at -170 or worse, how many wins would you need to offset those two losses?
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                                                                • knugen
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 12-09-09
                                                                  • 2612

                                                                  #3252
                                                                  At least +15,5 on our Bet 2 tonight, thoughts?
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                                                                  • Wallco99
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 01-01-11
                                                                    • 7261

                                                                    #3253
                                                                    Wallco NBA Chase 110
                                                                    2012-13 System to date: 59-2 (fin. series)
                                                                    System profit/loss: -3.30 units (fin. series)
                                                                    Current open series: 0

                                                                    v1 Plays
                                                                    (A) 33-28
                                                                    (B) 16-12

                                                                    (C) 7-5
                                                                    (D) 3-2
                                                                    Losses: HOU (-35.91 u), ORL (-26.39 u)


                                                                    Games for (2/26/13):
                                                                    #62 Charlotte (+15) @ L.A. Clippers (A) (10:35 pm EST)
                                                                    #63 Minnesota @ Phoenix (M/L) (A) (9:05 pm EST)


                                                                    We will ALWAYS play the M/L on favorites and the point spread (-110) on dogs. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the play. There is no point buying in this system, with one exception, if your team is the favorite, and buying down to a (-½) point spread is cheaper than playing the M/L, then by all means, buy the points, otherwise, M/L on all favorites and point spread on dogs. All results will be based on this principle. All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team, and who is the favorite on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines. I will try to update my post as often as I can throughout the day, if the lines change. However, it is the individual bettor’s responsibility to get the appropriate line if it differs from the line in my post.
                                                                    System rules and backtest can be found in post #219.
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                                                                    • ghislaine
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 11-14-10
                                                                      • 1131

                                                                      #3254
                                                                      Let's go, got Minnesota +4.5 and Charlotte +18.5
                                                                      Both A bets, v3 and v1 respectively
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                                                                      • knugen
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 12-09-09
                                                                        • 2612

                                                                        #3255
                                                                        i rather want the kings to win their bet

                                                                        but a jackpot with all 3 winners would be appreciated
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