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  • rjt721
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 02-06-07
    • 7929

    #1
    Sonics +3500
    Putting a little on the Sonics ML +3500. Lakers obviously still missing Pau and Bynum, and playing on the second night of a back-to back following a big win in Utah. LAL has a tendency to play down to the level of their competition and if Kobe shoots 8-24, the Lakers, heavily reliant on Kobe's scoring minus their two bigs in the post, can let Seattle hang around into the 2H.
  • dannyt76
    SBR Wise Guy
    • 06-29-07
    • 779

    #2
    Worth a shot. Anything can happen. GL to you tonight.
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    • ryanXL977
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 02-24-08
      • 20615

      #3
      no chance
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      • rjt721
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 02-06-07
        • 7929

        #4
        Originally posted by ryanXL977
        no chance
        Then I take it you'll be on the Lakers -5000. You think they win this game 98% of the time?
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        • ryanXL977
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 02-24-08
          • 20615

          #5
          why would i bet 5k to win 100 dollars
          i dont need 100 dollars
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          • rjt721
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 02-06-07
            • 7929

            #6
            Originally posted by ryanXL977
            why would i bet 5k to win 100 dollars
            i dont need 100 dollars
            Because you said Seattle doesn't have a chance. If you think LAL wins more than 98% of the time, it's a good bet.
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            • ryanXL977
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 02-24-08
              • 20615

              #7
              no bet laying -5000 is a good bet
              are you retarded
              i said seattle is not a good bet. they are the worst team in the west playing the best
              how is that a good bet? why not throw your momey towards a homeless person instead
              help somebody
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              • rjt721
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 02-06-07
                • 7929

                #8
                Originally posted by ryanXL977
                no bet laying -5000 is a good bet
                are you retarded
                i said seattle is not a good bet. they are the worst team in the west playing the best
                how is that a good bet? why not throw your momey towards a homeless person instead
                help somebody
                That's the stupidest thing I've read in a long time. I'll let you figure out why, but considering the intelligence you've demonstrated in this thread, I don't think it will happen anytime soon.
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                • ryanXL977
                  SBR Posting Legend
                  • 02-24-08
                  • 20615

                  #9
                  hope you did not throw away cash on a free win for lal
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                  • rjt721
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 02-06-07
                    • 7929

                    #10
                    Originally posted by ryanXL977
                    hope you did not throw away cash on a free win for lal
                    You're an idiot. You clearly shouldn't be gambling. Don't have time for morons like you.
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                    • ryanXL977
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 02-24-08
                      • 20615

                      #11
                      i guess i am the idiot. you lost money on them
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                      • The_Kid
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 02-09-08
                        • 5049

                        #12
                        Originally posted by rjt721
                        You're an idiot. You clearly shouldn't be gambling. Don't have time for morons like you.
                        Why you have to get so defensive? Chill out man.

                        We're here to help each other out, not call each other out.
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                        • rjt721
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 02-06-07
                          • 7929

                          #13
                          Originally posted by ryanXL977
                          i guess i am the idiot. you lost money on them
                          What does that have to do with anything?

                          You're aware that a good bet doesn't always win, right?

                          What was an accurate ML for this game? How many times out of 100 does LAL win?
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                          • rjt721
                            SBR Hall of Famer
                            • 02-06-07
                            • 7929

                            #14
                            Originally posted by The_Kid
                            Why you have to get so defensive? Chill out man.

                            We're here to help each other out, not call each other out.
                            Some people can't be helped.
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                            • ryanXL977
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 02-24-08
                              • 20615

                              #15
                              lal wins 95 out of 100 home games vs this sea team, maybe more
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                              • rjt721
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 02-06-07
                                • 7929

                                #16
                                Originally posted by ryanXL977
                                lal wins 95 out of 100 home games vs this sea team, maybe more
                                Clearly you're not aware that a -5000 fave equates to a win percentage of slightly higher than 98%.

                                Conversely, +3500 results in a probability of 2.78%.

                                So, if you think LA wins this game 95% of the time it goes without saying Seattle +3500, with a win probability of 5% in your estimation, was a good bet.
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                                • diogee
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 01-11-08
                                  • 19477

                                  #17
                                  RJT is correct in his logic....it was a good bet despite the slim chances.
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                                  • mundane
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-25-08
                                    • 3592

                                    #18
                                    yepp.. now say, before game time all of lakers starters got sick (food poisoning or what have u) and they can only suit up their 7 to 12 man. derz a very good chance ull hit ur +3500 innit???
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                                    • ryanXL977
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 02-24-08
                                      • 20615

                                      #19
                                      it wasnt a good bet
                                      they lost by 25
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                                      • diogee
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 01-11-08
                                        • 19477

                                        #20
                                        It was a good bet when you say the Lakers win the same game 95% of the time...say you put $100 on the ML in all 100 games @ +3500 and you win 5 of them.
                                        3500*5= 17,500-9500 (the money you lost on their 95 wins)
                                        You end up with $8500 profit....you make profit even if the Lakers win 97 out of the 100 so in the long run it was a good bet even though it wasn't very probable for it to happen.
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                                        • rjt721
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 02-06-07
                                          • 7929

                                          #21
                                          Originally posted by ryanXL977
                                          it wasnt a good bet
                                          they lost by 25
                                          You still don't get it. The result is irrelevant.

                                          You said Seattle wins 5% of the time, yet a play in which the Sonics only need to win at a clip exceeding 2.78% isn't "a good bet?"

                                          Stop embarrassing yourself.
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                                          • ryanXL977
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 02-24-08
                                            • 20615

                                            #22
                                            look, just bc i say they win 95% of the time doesnt mean they do. it was an awful bet. they had no chance. best team in the west vs worst, on the road
                                            wheres the value
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                                            • rjt721
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 02-06-07
                                              • 7929

                                              #23
                                              You are even more clueless than I initially thought.
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                                              • ryanXL977
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 02-24-08
                                                • 20615

                                                #24
                                                yes
                                                you are right
                                                i am wrong
                                                bet sea+3500 at lal everytime
                                                see who is right and who is wrong
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                                                • mundane
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-25-08
                                                  • 3592

                                                  #25
                                                  lol at this banter!
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                                                  • rjt721
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 02-06-07
                                                    • 7929

                                                    #26
                                                    Originally posted by ryanXL977
                                                    look, just bc i say they win 95% of the time doesnt mean they do. it was an awful bet. they had no chance. best team in the west vs worst, on the road
                                                    wheres the value
                                                    So how often does Seattle win? Surely you're not saying LAL wins 100% of the time, in which case you'd be foolish to not play the Lakers -5000.

                                                    I just think it's hilarious you criticize the play, saying Seattle has "no chance," only to later concede you think they win 5% of the time. Even after this, you ask "where's the value?"
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                                                    • ryanXL977
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 02-24-08
                                                      • 20615

                                                      #27
                                                      look dude
                                                      i rarely rip anyones bets bc there is no such thing as a lock
                                                      but to bet a horrible team at +3500 is dumb
                                                      my opinion
                                                      so what
                                                      relax
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                                                      • SBR Lou
                                                        BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                        • 08-02-07
                                                        • 37863

                                                        #28
                                                        I think what he's trying to say is, he'd rather avoid betting 5k to win 100 bucks, even if he believes there is enough value to warrant the bet. I don't think anyone really likes eating all that chalk. If I'm risking that much, I'd rather my return be a heck of a lot more.

                                                        I don't think there was anything wrong with taking a shot on the Sonics ML, if I had a gun to my head and had to pick either ML to bet on I'd pick Seattle in a heartbeat for a half unit or whatever.
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                                                        • rjt721
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 02-06-07
                                                          • 7929

                                                          #29
                                                          I'll leave it at this: there has to be a line in which there's perceived value on any team, in this case being Seattle. That number is, at time, entirely subjective.

                                                          Good luck with your future plays.
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                                                          • ryanXL977
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 02-24-08
                                                            • 20615

                                                            #30
                                                            i understanbd your logic
                                                            i just dont see that the game of sea @ lal was anything more than it should have bee
                                                            no biggy dude
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