Dan Gilbert's ultimate revenge

[N.O.S.]

I had a dream last night and i think it's very doable: Gilbert is a very wealthy man, right? Now imagine this, somehow he offers cash buyout for Kobe, Howard and Rondo and brings them to Cleveland to teach James and his two patsies a life's lesson he will never forget. I don't think Lakers and Celtics would refuse his TOP offer since these two franchises have already so many trophy's. Just like top european soccer clubs. Would Lakers, Magic and Boston refuse $80-$100 million for each player? And Dan has money to spend. That would be an ultimate punishment to James, Wade and Bosh- NO RINGS EVER.

[giantleap]

I hope Dan keeps his anger fresh, that was he would be more likely to do something like that and as a Clevelander I can say that would be awesome!!

I thought some people here may like to here this:
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Lebron James gets told off in song!!

[Pauulzcappin]

Won't happen, but it would be funny.

[N.O.S.]

Won't happen, but it would be funny.

Why not? Suppose Celtics, Lakers and Magic owners decide they can use this money for something else and, AND this will send a message to the rest of the league's renegades about respect and humbleness. Having these jokers win an NBA title would be an ULTIMATE SLAP to the rest of the nation, and to the good and respected players like Michael Jordan, Larry Bird, Patrick Ewing, Oscar Robertson, David Robinson, John Stockton, Carl Malone, Kareem Abdul, Mark Price etc.

[Ralphie1412]

Do the dumb cleveland fans who have their chests puffed out and think Dan gilbert is gods gift to the earth realize the ramifications of these comments?

Most stars in the league are friends with lebron, not fan gilbert. Who would EVER want to go play for this guy after he said something like that. Now that Sharpton and the Rev have dubbed it racist, which is ridiculous. They still have the black communities ear, and guess what? Most stars are black . The cavs are ****** and he knows it.

[76ersphan]

it cannot happen.. the NBA doesn't work like european soccer teams.. sorry, no man city here.

[Bradyd]

Nobody wants to play in Cleveland. While LEbron going to the Heat may not be good for Cleveland, it's def. good for the NBA. What you are proposing would destroy the NBA. Why would you give Lebron so much power???

[Tree Rollins]

If the Heat dominate this season, I'm hoping Carmelo realizes he can't win a chip in Denver, and he goes and signs with the Lakers.

[pronk]

Do the dumb cleveland fans who have their chests puffed out and think Dan gilbert is gods gift to the earth realize the ramifications of these comments?

Most stars in the league are friends with lebron , not fan gilbert. Who would EVER want to go play for this guy after he said something like that. Now that Sharpton and the Rev have dubbed it racist, which is ridiculous. They still have the black communities ear, and guess what? Most stars are black . The cavs are ****** and he knows it.

Been to anger management classes lately Ralphie? Anger sharks still swimming in your head? I have a friend who can help you.

And FYI, NBA is not a kindergarden- "Most stars in the league are friends with lebron "

"Who would EVER want to go play for this guy"?
Gilbert's money have the same buying power as any other owners money.

"and guess what? Most stars are black"

What the hell is that supposed to mean?

[Tree Rollins]

Do the dumb cleveland fans who have their chests puffed out and think Dan gilbert is gods gift to the earth realize the ramifications of these comments? Most stars in the league are friends with lebron, not fan gilbert. Who would EVER want to go play for this guy after he said something like that. Now that Sharpton and the Rev have dubbed it racist, which is ridiculous. They still have the black communities ear, and guess what? Most stars are black . The cavs are ****** and he knows it.

When it comes down to it, if Dan Gilbert is offering the most money they will go play in Cleveland. 95% of these guys just go to the team who offers them the biggest contract.

[Bradyd]

If the Heat dominate this season, I'm hoping Carmelo realizes he can't win a chip in Denver, and he goes and signs with the Lakers.

Lakers can't afford Melo.

[Tree Rollins]

Lakers can't afford Melo.

They are already over the luxury tax. So technically they can't afford to sign anyone. That doesn't mean they won't.

They also have the option of sign-and-trade. As well as the fact that Vujacic and Walton's ridiculous contracts come off the books in a couple years.

[Mac4Lyfe]

When it comes down to it, if Dan Gilbert is offering the most money they will go play in Cleveland. 95% of these guys just go to the team who offers them the biggest contract.

99%... I don't know too many of them that take the MLE if offered more. These guys generally go to the highest bidder, including Lebron, Wade and Bosh. Do not believe that bullshit about them going for less money. That was horseshit.

I'm hoping Gilbert keeps doing what he's been doing. Going after talent in FA and get better in the draft. The Cav's could bring in a guy like Gilbert Arenas IMO and build around him. You don't win 66 games with just one guy. You can't win a title with a bunch of individuals and talent doesn't always equal wins. Scott has to develop a system that the players can buy into to be successful.

Beat the Heat...

[brandon m]

I think most of the players are pretty much of the same line of thinking as the rest of us, who are not south beach fans. What Lechoke did was BS, and Dan Gilbert reacted a little harshly but understand why he is so pissed.

[brandon m]

"and guess what? Most stars are black"

What the hell is that supposed to mean?

I think maybe he is buying into Jackson's bullshit comment about Gilbert thinking lebron is a slave.

That guy just wants to say something sensational so he can actually get talked about.

Gilbert is pissed because he spent 7 years sucking on lebricks penis and then got slapped and walked out on for his efforts. And not he doesn't think Lebron is his slave....The things some people say for attention.

[Mac4Lyfe]

How many slaves ever got paid 100 million to have fun? How many slave owners paid $25 Million to put up a training facility close to Lebron's home??? Jesse Jackson needs to shut his trap.

[yisman]

Two words:

Salary


Cap

[Ratzz]

Gilbert is a tool and he exposed himself as one... who wants to play for a slave owner like that?

this is business, man./.. team brass cut men that won them championships the previous year
all the time...

he did not give LB another superstar in the 7 years he was there.. he is the one that did not deliver...
Danny Ferry was an awful GM

[Tree Rollins]

Two words: Salary Cap

Are you talking about the Lakers getting Melo?

If so, i can explain to you plenty of reasons that make is plausible.

[Bradyd]

Are you talking about the Lakers getting Melo?

If so, i can explain to you plenty of reasons that make is plausible.

I would love to hear some realistic reasons as to how that would work.

[Tree Rollins]

I would love to hear some realistic reasons as to how that would work.

Sure. 1- the lakers are already over the salary cap. Jerry Buss has proven time and time and time and time and time again that he is willing to pay the luxury tax to make his team competitive.
2- There is always the option of a sign-and-trade. Just like we saw with Lebron James and Chris Bosh this year. If the team knew they were about to lose their superstar, they'd rather get something for him then lose him for nothing. I mean the Cavs got like a 2nd round pick for Lebron James for god sake.
3- Once again, the sign and trade option. If the Nuggets learn from this season. They would realize that they can either 1- let Melo go for nothing 2- Give him away for a 2nd round pick or 3- actually try and get something of value for him ie. Lamar Odom, maybe Bynum depending on his play next year. Or even a young player and a pick. You never know what could happen, Ebanks or Caracter could really show up this season and maybe they'll have a little value. Just remember smart guy; something is better then nothing.
4- The Nuggest WILL be willing to listen to trade offers for Anthony if the feel like they'll definitely lose him. Once again smart guy, they will have learned that something is better then nothing. They could potentially trade him before the all-star break if the Nuggets aren't preforming and Melo seems unhappy. The Lakers have some pieces and the financial balls to make it happen.
5- Carmelo just married Lala Vasquez. A former MTV veejay and game show host. Basically a Hollywood person. As with every other free-agent's decision, family comes into play. With Lala being a celebrity and all, LA would fit her lifestyle perfectly. Not only hers but Melo's. Melo, like any other human being, is interested in making money, where else would he make himself more marketable then in LA? and his wife could become a huge star there as well.
6- Let's say the Heat run away with it this year. They dominate and maybe even whoop the Lakers or some other Western Conference team in the finals. Well, if Carmelo is a Human and wants to win championships and thus make himself an even bigger star, where should he go? LA would obviously be the best option. He would be able to legitimately compete with the Heat every year. They wouldn't be able to steal ALL the spotlight b/c melo and Kobe would be running shit in the West. Leading to the huge media event known as Heat vs. Lakers in the finals, which would happen just about every year, barring signifigant moves from other NBA powerhouses.

[yisman]

Are you talking about the Lakers getting Melo?

Not sure why you'd think that.

Anyway, I was referring to the thread, not your post. But the Lakers aren't going to get 'Melo.

[Tree Rollins]

No, I was referring to the thread, not your post. But the Lakers aren't going to get 'Melo.

Oh ok, sorry about. You're right though, they probably won't get him. It definitely is plausible though. If the Heat dominate and win a chip easily this year, i could see it happening.

[Bradyd]

Sure. 1- the lakers are already over the salary cap. Jerry Buss has proven time and time and time and time and time again that he is willing to pay the luxury tax to make his team competitive.
2- There is always the option of a sign-and-trade. Just like we saw with Lebron James and Chris Bosh this year. If the team knew they were about to lose their superstar, they'd rather get something for him then lose him for nothing. I mean the Cavs got like a 2nd round pick for Lebron James for god sake.
3- Once again, the sign and trade option. If the Nuggets learn from this season. They would realize that they can either 1- let Melo go for nothing 2- Give him away for a 2nd round pick or 3- actually try and get something of value for him ie. Lamar Odom, maybe Bynum depending on his play next year. Or even a young player and a pick. You never know what could happen, Ebanks or Caracter could really show up this season and maybe they'll have a little value. Just remember smart guy; something is better then nothing.
4- The Nuggest WILL be willing to listen to trade offers for Anthony if the feel like they'll definitely lose him. Once again smart guy, they will have learned that something is better then nothing. They could potentially trade him before the all-star break if the Nuggets aren't preforming and Melo seems unhappy. The Lakers have some pieces and the financial balls to make it happen.
5- Carmelo just married Lala Vasquez. A former MTV veejay and game show host. Basically a Hollywood person. As with every other free-agent's decision, family comes into play. With Lala being a celebrity and all, LA would fit her lifestyle perfectly. Not only hers but Melo's. Melo, like any other human being, is interested in making money, where else would he make himself more marketable then in LA? and his wife could become a huge star there as well.
6- Let's say the Heat run away with it this year. They dominate and maybe even whoop the Lakers or some other Western Conference team in the finals. Well, if Carmelo is a Human and wants to win championships and thus make himself an even bigger star, where should he go? LA would obviously be the best option. He would be able to legitimately compete with the Heat every year. They wouldn't be able to steal ALL the spotlight b/c melo and Kobe would be running shit in the West. Leading to the huge media event known as Heat vs. Lakers in the finals, which would happen just about every year, barring signifigant moves from other NBA powerhouses.

That all sounds very good. But most, if any at all isnt' realistic.

1. They could do a sign and trade. However, it would be insane if LA would attach Bynum to the deal. They need size. That's part of the reason LA is so special. Two 7 footers in the front court.

2. Lebron was a Free Agent who walked, there is a huge difference there. LA wouldn't be able to afford to do what Miami did. Like you said, they are already way OVER the salary cap, so don't expect for them to go over any more.

3. LA doesn't need more offense. They have Kobe who takes the majority of the shots. How can two PURE SCORERS co-exist? Is Kobe going to sacrafice shots? Are they going to take away from one of Gasol's main assests, scoring? Wade and Lebron are very different as they play unselfish on the court. That's the only reason people are giving this trio a shot at working. People tend to forget that these two individuals ability to get their teammates involved is way above average. Don't see how Melo and the Triangle offense would work as of yet..

The main reason why I see this not working is the fact that the Lakers just can't afford him. If Denver trades him, it would prob be to a team who actually has the ability to take on his contract without gutting their team. Someone like the Knicks.. Anything is possible however..

[kobefanatic]

I had a dream last night and i think it's very doable: Gilbert is a very wealthy man, right? Now imagine this, somehow he offers cash buyout for Kobe, Howard and Rondo and brings them to Cleveland to teach James and his two patsies a life's lesson he will never forget. I don't think Lakers and Celtics would refuse his TOP offer since these two franchises have already so many trophy's. Just like top european soccer clubs. Would Lakers, Magic and Boston refuse $80-$100 million for each player? And Dan has money to spend. That would be an ultimate punishment to James, Wade and Bosh- NO RINGS EVER.

it won't happen

[kobefanatic]

dan gilbert better send anderson varejao to LAL for luke walton + fillers to make the salaries match, that way we can help you beat the heat

[HCBoone]

Well I hope he do something to improve there team. Can't stand the new Heat team.

[csm506]

Dan will get his team to the playoff's he probably does not want to publicly state that his wishes for an injury but he is

[brooks85]

dan definitely should have kept his mouth shut but he didnt. If I was him Id issue an apology, regardless if you mean it or not. A real man knows when to swallow his pride and that letter is not going to attract any top talent.

[pronk]

dan definitely should have kept his mouth shut but he didnt. If I was him Id issue an apology, regardless if you mean it or not. A real man knows when to swallow his pride and that letter is not going to attract any top talent.

It's called OLD SCHOOL you liberal atheistic pinko meathead.

[brooks85]

liberal? hahah

you must not have read many of my post. We already diagnosed you, aloing with every other lebron hater for the move, as a sociopath yesterday. Have you made any progress today?

[Grits n' Gravy]

Rondo is locked up at a reasonable price for 5 years. Unless the Celts can pull a better pg out of their ass he's not going anywhere. Orlando will never part with Howard. They will build around him for the next 5-10 years. Melo will either reup in Denver or force a sign and trade to NY. None of these guys are going to Lakers. Buss is a businessman and he's not going to go crazy with the luxury tax penalty. He'll pay a little, but not the amount it would take to get the 3 guys you mentioned.

[Tree Rollins]

That all sounds very good. But most, if any at all isnt' realistic.

1. They could do a sign and trade. However, it would be insane if LA would attach Bynum to the deal. They need size. That's part of the reason LA is so special. Two 7 footers in the front court.

2. Lebron was a Free Agent who walked, there is a huge difference there. LA wouldn't be able to afford to do what Miami did. Like you said, they are already way OVER the salary cap, so don't expect for them to go over any more.

3. LA doesn't need more offense. They have Kobe who takes the majority of the shots. How can two PURE SCORERS co-exist? Is Kobe going to sacrafice shots? Are they going to take away from one of Gasol's main assests, scoring? Wade and Lebron are very different as they play unselfish on the court. That's the only reason people are giving this trio a shot at working. People tend to forget that these two individuals ability to get their teammates involved is way above average. Don't see how Melo and the Triangle offense would work as of yet..

The main reason why I see this not working is the fact that the Lakers just can't afford him. If Denver trades him, it would prob be to a team who actually has the ability to take on his contract without gutting their team. Someone like the Knicks.. Anything is possible however..

1- Bynum doesn't HAVE to be part of a deal. But with his injury history, it's not like he's untouchable. He was basically non-existent in 2 of their last 3 runs to the championship. Therefore he has obviously lost value. Also, the Lakers have defintitely put serious thought into trading him on more then 1 occasion (jason kidd, Chris Bosh etc)
2- Jerry Buss is getting old and he isn't going to sit by and watch the Heat run away with 3 or 4 championships in the next 5 years. I can promise you that. He has proven over and over he'll do what it takes to win games. The Lakers are one of the most valuable franchise in sports and bring in stupid money on tickets and merchandise every year. Imagine getting a guy like Melo; you become even more popular and bring in even more money. There are ways to make it work. They would have to pull of a trade with either the Nuggets or do a 3-way deal with the Nugs and another team. Or they can pick him up and make some moves to dump salary.

3- How can 2 pure scorers co-exist? What you don't realize is that Carmelo Anthony is one of the best in the game at playing off the ball. Not with it. Carmelo posts up, is a great catch and shoot guy, and basically does the best of his damage playing off the ball. There is no debate; Carmelo is unbelievable playing off the ball, . There's a reason the Nuggets made that trade for Iverson a couple years ago. It's because Carmelo doesn't have to have the ball in his hands for 12 seconds to make something happen. He's at his best with a guy who is ball dominant.

Put it this way, if Carmelo says "I want to be a Laker", do you think the Lakers will say "sorry, can't afford it, go somewhere else". Hell no they won't! They will f'in make it happen b/c if a player like that wants to play for you, you do what you gotta do and get him on your team. Especially if you're the LA Lakers.

[pronk]

We already diagnosed you, aloing with every other lebron hater for the move, as a sociopath yesterday. Have you made any progress today?

We? You and who else Dr. broke? LePrick has been diagnosed as a sociopath long time ago FYI. Monkey see, monkey do.

[ReiNNNN]

lol u do realize free agency is over right?