lakers still have homecourt

**Jedi** · 06-14-10, 09:19 AM

hey... note was right on... last post as well about LA plain losing.. not to blame refs..

with regard to losing by narrow margin..
this tends to favor Celtics... 180˚Degree performances are usually preceded by blowouts... otherwise, Laws if Inertia stay the course..

game following Allen's record setting 3-pt blitz, he was entirely absent..
likely same will occur with KB

IF Lakers lost with KB, they will most probably fold w/out him

homecourt no longer applies, it did not against either Cavs, or Magic

The Lakers were down 35-36 when Kobe went on his 23-0 stretch – meaning he scored 23 straight Laker points. When he was done, the score was 58-67. During that run, Boston scored 31 to his 23.

It simply doesn’t work in the NBA for one player to dominate to that degree.

**goldengreek** · 06-14-10, 09:23 AM

They are down 3-2...no home court anymore

they still have 2 games at home...but they are in a must win position for the last 2 games..

**str** · 06-14-10, 09:59 AM

Think it would be quite a surprise,IMO, if Boston wins game 6.
I think home court matters a lot from here on out.
L.A. will need to push the ball more and they need to score 100 points. It can not be the Kobe show. Teams win, not players.
Just ask Lebron.

**domz248** · 06-14-10, 10:29 AM

Originally posted by goldengreek

They are down 3-2...no home court anymore

they still have 2 games at home...but they are in a must win position for the last 2 games..

are you retarded ??? go look up the definition from homecourt

**domz248** · 06-14-10, 10:34 AM

Originally posted by Jedi

hey... note was right on... last post as well about LA plain losing.. not to blame refs..

with regard to losing by narrow margin..
this tends to favor Celtics... 180˚Degree performances are usually preceded by blowouts... otherwise, Laws if Inertia stay the course..

game following Allen's record setting 3-pt blitz, he was entirely absent..
likely same will occur with KB

IF Lakers lost with KB, they will most probably fold w/out him

homecourt no longer applies, it did not against either Cavs, or Magic

The Lakers were down 35-36 when Kobe went on his 23-0 stretch – meaning he scored 23 straight Laker points. When he was done, the score was 58-67. During that run, Boston scored 31 to his 23.

It simply doesn’t work in the NBA for one player to dominate to that degree.

that was not the score when kobe went on that run it was 39-50 ... it was 39 to 45 to start the half and celtics score a easy 5 to extend there lead and that's when kobe had to turn it on to keep the score close. it was 35-36 in the first half kobe went on fire a lil after the 3rd started ?

**Jedi** · 06-14-10, 10:43 AM

GG is right... 'homecourt' means having that advantage.... Lakers have ceded that...
it means never being behind.

Lakers lost it Game 2, regained it Game 3.. and lost it again..

**the 23 pts began at the end of the second quarter
he did not have to do that, he does so because he cannot resist making the statement "I AM better"...
thus negating the "we're better" that the lakers we're hoping for..

when he does that, the other players stand down.
It is a pecking order.. when the General is on a rant "Get outta my way"...
so the Lieutenants, and Captains, shut up...

it does not serve the team for everyone to stand down, so that one can rise..
there is plenty of talent ALL over that team. MOST talent in league--

if you examine the footage, you will see at a point early in the 3rd, he stops setting up anybody...
he gets the ball... and magically hoists it in from wherever... the more he does it, the worse it gets..

and to make matters worse, he calls everybody out in the press conference...
".. then they don't deserve to be Champions" (Kobe Bryant about his teammates)

that is why they will lose..
because his basic message to his team is, "I deserve to be a Champion" but you guys don't.
THAT is why Shaq left, THAT is why Jackson before they lured him back with $1M/month

he just divided the locker room, HIM vs. them.. taking the fun out of it..
thus, Lakers probably will lose Game 6, as they did 2 yrs ago

**domz248** · 06-14-10, 11:04 AM

Originally posted by Jedi

GG is right... 'homecourt' means having that advantage.... Lakers have ceded that...
it means never being behind.

Originally posted by Jedi

Lakers lost it Game 2, regained it Game 3.. and lost it again..

**the 23 pts began at the end of the second quarter
he did not have to do that, he does so because he cnnot discipline himself..
and must make the statement "I AM better"... thus negating the "we're better" that the lakers we're hoping for..

when he does that, the other players stand down. It is a pecking order.. when the General is on a rant "Get outta my way"... so the Lieutenants, and Captains, shut up...

it does not serve the team to have everybody stand down, so that one can rise..there is plenty of talent..
if you examine the footage, you will see at a point early in the 3rd, he stops setting up anybody...

he gets the ball... and hoist it in from wherever... the more he does it, the worse it gets..

and to make matters worse, he calls everybody out in the press conference...

".. then they don't deserve to be Champions" (Kobe Bryant about his teammates)
that is why they will lose..

because his basic message to his team is, i deserve to be a Champion, but you guys don't.
THAT is why Shaq left, THAT is why Jackson before they lured him back with $1M/month

he just divided the locker room, HIM vs. them.. taking the fun out of it..
thus, Lakers probably will lose Game 6, as they did 2 yrs ago

a series is a 2-3-2 format the lakers lost homecourt in gm 2 won it back in game 3 ... if lakers win the championship it will be on there homecourt ... 4 games won on La court ... instead it's 3 on la court and 1 in boston .

if it was not for kobe it would have never been a 6 points game

**goldengreek** · 06-14-10, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by domz248

are you retarded ??? Go look up the definition from homecourt

um...looks like you are the retard

home court is when you have more games at home and the series is even

if it was 2-2 and 2 of 3 were in la .. They would have homecourst advantage

now they have to win 2 in a row

these are now elimination games !!!!

Lmao...home court advantage - are u kidding me

**Jedi** · 06-14-10, 11:21 AM

1) first of all... "their" homecourt.. not 'there' homecourt

2) lakers will NOT win this series... lakers do VERY badly in elimination games... that car goes downhill only.. no climb

3) GG right again... ELIMINATION game is not homecourt... for Game 6.. (though Game 7 would be considered so...)

but won't get there.. K&Co. finished on Tues.

**paco** · 06-14-10, 11:22 AM

If Kobe doesn't go off, ya say "he didn't take over and didn't shoot enough". If he goes off 23 straight points, ya say "he's selfish".

**domz248** · 06-14-10, 11:42 AM

As an example, suppose that a blue team and red team are about to play a best-of-seven series against each other. Four games will be played at blue's venue, while three will be played at red's venue. If the home team were to win each game, then blue would win four games, red would win three games, and blue would win the series, so we say that blue has the home-field advantage. However, suppose that the first game is played at blue's venue and the visiting red team wins. Red now has one win, and there are three games remaining at each venue. If the home team wins each of the remaining games, then red will have won four games, while blue will have won three. Since red would win the series in such a scenario, it is said that red has taken home-field advantage away from blue.

like i said if the lakers win all the remaining games in staples center they would have won using home court ... the objective in home court is winning it all on your court ... it is the same thing if la had won the first 2 at home and lost all 3 in boston ... they would still have home court

**tmorton** · 06-14-10, 11:44 AM

Sure hope they can pull it out in game six and seven... Took the Lakers big for the series! Not giving up on it yet but did not see the series going this way!

**kchang024** · 06-14-10, 11:47 AM

ya lets go LA!! Hopefully they can wrap it up at home!

**talnted** · 06-14-10, 12:28 PM

blah blazy blah blah blee blah blee

**goldengreek** · 06-14-10, 12:53 PM

Originally posted by domz248

As an example, suppose that a blue team and red team are about to play a best-of-seven series against each other. Four games will be played at blue's venue, while three will be played at red's venue. If the home team were to win each game, then blue would win four games, red would win three games, and blue would win the series, so we say that blue has the home-field advantage. However, suppose that the first game is played at blue's venue and the visiting red team wins. Red now has one win, and there are three games remaining at each venue. If the home team wins each of the remaining games, then red will have won four games, while blue will have won three. Since red would win the series in such a scenario, it is said that red has taken home-field advantage away from blue.

like i said if the lakers win all the remaining games in staples center they would have won using home court ... the objective in home court is winning it all on your court ... it is the same thing if la had won the first 2 at home and lost all 3 in boston ... they would still have home court

You are confusing even yourself..and contadicting your self

A team can lose and reclaim home court

If boston won game 1 at LA...THEY TOOK AWAY THE LAKERS HOME COURT ADVANTAGE

WHEN LA WON GAME 3 THEY RELAIMED HOME COURT ADVANTAGE

THESE ARE ELIMINATION GAMES NOW

YOU CAN SAY... " I THINK LA WILL WIN BECAUAE THEY ARE PLAYING THE NEXT 2 GAMES AT HOME"

HOWEVER.. BEING DOWN 3 GAMES TO 2 THEY NO LONGER HAVE" HOME COURT" ADVANTAGE

**PROfitableEnergy** · 06-14-10, 01:49 PM

Originally posted by domz248

that was not the score when kobe went on that run it was 39-50 ... it was 39 to 45 to start the half and celtics score a easy 5 to extend there lead and that's when kobe had to turn it on to keep the score close. it was 35-36 in the first half kobe went on fire a lil after the 3rd started ?

LOL @ kobe having one 40 point game and you think that matters. So Kobe will most definitely score 10 less points. Take it off the boards. Lakers will be shut down in the same way they were this game -10 from kobe. You realize kobe was the only one scoring because the rest of the team was defensively shut down, right? They weren't all just "off".

**stefan084** · 06-14-10, 01:58 PM

Originally posted by Jedi

hey... note was right on... last post as well about LA plain losing.. not to blame refs..

with regard to losing by narrow margin..
this tends to favor Celtics... 180˚Degree performances are usually preceded by blowouts... otherwise, Laws if Inertia stay the course..

game following Allen's record setting 3-pt blitz, he was entirely absent..
likely same will occur with KB

IF Lakers lost with KB, they will most probably fold w/out him

homecourt no longer applies, it did not against either Cavs, or Magic

The Lakers were down 35-36 when Kobe went on his 23-0 stretch – meaning he scored 23 straight Laker points. When he was done, the score was 58-67. During that run, Boston scored 31 to his 23.

It simply doesn’t work in the NBA for one player to dominate to that degree.

the lakers won't fold without such a huge contribution from Kobe because usually that means the ball is being spread around with others getting involved in the game

**excel** · 06-14-10, 01:59 PM

Still think this could go either way myself.

**stefan084** · 06-14-10, 02:01 PM

Originally posted by domz248

As an example, suppose that a blue team and red team are about to play a best-of-seven series against each other. Four games will be played at blue's venue, while three will be played at red's venue. If the home team were to win each game, then blue would win four games, red would win three games, and blue would win the series, so we say that blue has the home-field advantage. However, suppose that the first game is played at blue's venue and the visiting red team wins. Red now has one win, and there are three games remaining at each venue. If the home team wins each of the remaining games, then red will have won four games, while blue will have won three. Since red would win the series in such a scenario, it is said that red has taken home-field advantage away from blue.

like i said if the lakers win all the remaining games in staples center they would have won using home court ... the objective in home court is winning it all on your court ... it is the same thing if la had won the first 2 at home and lost all 3 in boston ... they would still have home court

**ChileCheese** · 06-14-10, 02:08 PM

Lakers in 7

**domz248** · 06-14-10, 02:54 PM

Originally posted by PROfitableEnergy

LOL @ kobe having one 40 point game and you think that matters. So Kobe will most definitely score 10 less points. Take it off the boards. Lakers will be shut down in the same way they were this game -10 from kobe. You realize kobe was the only one scoring because the rest of the team was defensively shut down, right? They weren't all just "off".

wtf are you talking about ????? my post had nothing do to with what you just mentioned ...

**domz248** · 06-14-10, 02:55 PM

Originally posted by goldengreek

You are confusing even yourself..and contadicting your self

A team can lose and reclaim home court

If boston won game 1 at LA...THEY TOOK AWAY THE LAKERS HOME COURT ADVANTAGE

WHEN LA WON GAME 3 THEY RELAIMED HOME COURT ADVANTAGE

THESE ARE ELIMINATION GAMES NOW

YOU CAN SAY... " I THINK LA WILL WIN BECAUAE THEY ARE PLAYING THE NEXT 2 GAMES AT HOME"

HOWEVER.. BEING DOWN 3 GAMES TO 2 THEY NO LONGER HAVE" HOME COURT" ADVANTAGE

As an example, suppose that a blue team and red team are about to play a best-of-seven series against each other. Four games will be played at blue's venue, while three will be played at red's venue. If the home team were to win each game, then blue would win four games, red would win three games, and blue would win the series, so we say that blue has the home-field advantage. However, suppose that the first game is played at blue's venue and the visiting red team wins. Red now has one win, and there are three games remaining at each venue. If the home team wins each of the remaining games, then red will have won four games, while blue will have won three. Since red would win the series in such a scenario, it is said that red has taken home-field advantage away from blue.

**jackny** · 06-14-10, 03:55 PM

We can all agree we will see 7th game here. Anything can happen there.

**polishkielbasa10** · 06-14-10, 04:02 PM

Kobe is the Biggest Crybaby Sallyboy Bitch...Complains even when he hits the shot
Gasol is the Biggest Flopper in the game and is soft
Fisher is a joke, half his shots are prayers that "happen" to go in
Series over!!La Fair weather Fans

**polishkielbasa10** · 06-14-10, 04:23 PM

Not to mention...this Tough Guy/Serious looking "focused" Kobe is a ****ing sham...Be yourself you crybaby..And take it in the ass like you should you ballhog

**PROfitableEnergy** · 06-14-10, 06:32 PM

cs 6.

**frostno98** · 06-14-10, 06:44 PM

Originally posted by domz248

no one understands that ... lakers lost by 6 points with just kobe playing ...

Yeah, but the Celts basically already had the game locked up. The Lakers were never a threat at taking the lead, and kinda of a threat at maybe bringing the game down to one only in the final minute. If Rondo didn't commit so many turnovers, this game would be out of reach in the 3rd quarter, despite what Kobe was doing.

**rickbo528** · 06-14-10, 08:38 PM

Just out of curiosity does anybody know the stats on NBA finals since they went to the 2-3-2 format. What I am curious about is how many times the team with homecourt advantage has trailed 3-2 then won games 6 & 7 at home to take it. Only one that comes to mind is 1994 Rockets over the Knicks. Would love to know that. Also historically have the Lakers ever had an opponent clinch on the Lakers home court in the finals? Would appreciate any info on this.

**lakerboy** · 06-14-10, 08:47 PM

Originally posted by rickbo528

Just out of curiosity does anybody know the stats on NBA finals since they went to the 2-3-2 format. What I am curious about is how many times the team with homecourt advantage has trailed 3-2 then won games 6 & 7 at home to take it. Only one that comes to mind is 1994 Rockets over the Knicks. Would love to know that. Also historically have the Lakers ever had an opponent clinch on the Lakers home court in the finals? Would appreciate any info on this.

lakers also won down 3-2 heading home v detroit in 1988. that and the example you mentioned are the only examples. yes the celtics won the nba title in game 7 in la in 1969 i believe also the bulls won the title in 1991 in la.

**rickbo528** · 06-14-10, 08:53 PM

Thanks Lakerboy. Maybe I can do a little research. Shoulda remembered my Bulls winning their first in 1991.

**rickbo528** · 06-14-10, 08:56 PM

Good luck to Lakers tuesday night. I would rather see them win than Boston. Any state that kept putting Ted Kennedy in office all those years, along with John Kerry and Barnie Fwank doesn't deserve winning teams. There's my political rant for the week out of the way. LOL.