Did you guys notice?

[williams22]

hmm shoe I gotta ask you again why did you take Boston? my models made them a strong play. "well your models are broken then"

that dont ring a bell? If you can dish it then you should be able to take it


I remember every conversation I have had with everyone

You should tell your model that the Celtics are old j/k Again, great hit on Miami and another profitable night for you

You really thought that was meant as a personal dig? Honestly shoe, I've never had any intent towards you. You've done nothing but come at me recently.

[fly fisher]

GM, I have been a big Shaq fan but it is time for him to retire. When he didn't dunk the layup and the end of the first half, it was clear that it is time to go. Having him out there was like the Cavs only playing with 4 people. He wasn't fast enough on the pick and roll so that the defense could sag off of him and have plenty of time to get back if he got the ball cuz he was so slow getting to the hoop. On defense unless he was under the basket he could guard shit. He reminded me of barkley in his last year when he had gained so much weight. I love the guy and love his commercials but his playing days are done.

[ngates815]

Lebron played fine today. The Cavs lost because Jamison and Shaq were the worst pick-ups of the decade. The only worse move I can think of in the last 20 years of this league is Dumars trading Billups for A.I.

JJ Hickson would have given the Cavs a chance tonight.

JJ Hickson didn't even get a chance to prove himself this series...Not saying he would of done a ton better than Jamison, but still. Jamison had nothing going for him this series, Hickson is a slasher, and would of taken at least some of Garnetts energy away by his constant moving. I didn't even know Jamison played tonight.

[shoebox]

You really thought that was meant as a personal dig? Honestly shoe, I've never had any intent towards you. You've done nothing but come at me recently.

its done misunderstanding, moving along

[jsmithj88]

im sure most of u have watched enuff cavs games to know wat he can do out there
something is wrong with lebron, i have got to believe that he is injured, why else would he play so scared
i dont think i have ever seen a superstar player play an entire series the way lebron did

[Goat Milk]

"only" down 9 with 30 seconds left

Buddy- Tmac scored 13 points in 33 seconds 3 years ago. His team was down by 9 with about 1:30 left in the game, and he won the game on a game winning 3. Kobe would demand the ball down 20 with 1 minute left...

[Goat Milk]

Yes. Very correct. Dumars was nuts for trading Billups, the leader, gamer, floor general. mr big shot.

Forgot to mention Lyon as another guy on my level of NBA knowledge

[shoebox]

can I be on your level please?

[Goat Milk]

can I be on your level please?

You are a top 3 capper on this site, and you are slowly showing that you're not just a gambler and know a great deal about this league.

[shoebox]

You are a top 3 capper on this site, and you are slowly showing that you're not just a gambler and know a great deal about this league.

[williams22]

Forgot to mention Lyon as another guy on my level of NBA knowledge

Where is this list and please say my name is there. Time to go drink myself stupid.

[Goat Milk]

Where is this list and please say my name is there. Time to go drink myself stupid.

you are on the list Will. As is Tealish. It was in a "no coincidence thread"

[williams22]

you are on the list Will. As is Tealish. It was in a "no coincidence thread"

Hallelujah, at least something went right tonight. Pardon my sarcasm Goat. Time to drink. I'll toast to a future of Lebron and Wade for you.

[fly fisher]

Buddy- Tmac scored 13 points in 33 seconds 3 years ago. His team was down by 9 with about 1:30 left in the game, and he won the game on a game winning 3. Kobe would demand the ball down 20 with 1 minute left...

and so would have MJ, Magic, Bird, and shit for that matter even one eyed Nash

[beanbag]

his team through the series!

[Mac4Lyfe]

If you guys truly think Lebron threw the series you are out of your mind. Everything about his performance tonight screams that the elbow is badly injured. The effort was much better than game 5, it's not like 19 rebounds just fell into his lap. He was attacking on offense he just wasn't executing. Anyone who has had an elbow injury knows that it becomes painful/impossible to have a strong grip. Look how many times he had the ball stripped. They were plays he normally makes routinely. I'm not making excuses, just trying to understand the situation. Some of you guys are going way overboard with your overreactions.

Goat, it would make sense. Mo has been his closest friend on the team and has always been realistic about things. He knew this was their last game together. He also probably knows the full extent of the injury.

Bullshit Williams... All your doing is making excuses for Lebron's lousy play. You don't think anyone else out there is injured this time of year? Kobe needs surgery on his hand, has multiple injuries but have you heard him say "I'm a no excuses BUT my elbow is hurting"?? Lebron sucked in every game this series but game 3. He's a turnover machine but it's his effort that will be criticized for years. He just didn't give a dam. Did you see the last timeout MB called? Go watch the tape again. Your Messiah sat on the bench wouldn't even look at his team or listen to his coach. He gave up. He quit. He's a fuking quitter. Do you think MJ would have quit in that spot? Do you think MJ would wait until game 6 to finally hit a 3 pointer??? This dude went the entire series without hitting a 3 until the last minutes of the game. He watched balls land in front of him and left Pierce wide open on several occasions.

Please quit talking about his elbow. You make him look like a bigger pussy.

[Mac4Lyfe]

The King had 9 turnovers tonight with only 8 FG's and was 11 for 39 the last 3 games from the field. If your elbow is hurting why not get to the hole more and quit jacking bullshit shots???

[lakerboy]

Bullshit Williams... All your doing is making excuses for Lebron's lousy play. You don't think anyone else out there is injured this time of year? Kobe needs surgery on his hand, has multiple injuries but have you heard him say "I'm a no excuses BUT my elbow is hurting"?? Lebron sucked in every game this series but game 3. He's a turnover machine but it's his effort that will be criticized for years. He just didn't give a dam. Did you see the last timeout MB called? Go watch the tape again. Your Messiah sat on the bench wouldn't even look at his team or listen to his coach. He gave up. He quit. He's a fuking quitter. Do you think MJ would have quit in that spot? Do you think MJ would wait until game 6 to finally hit a 3 pointer??? This dude went the entire series without hitting a 3 until the last minutes of the game. He watched balls land in front of him and left Pierce wide open on several occasions.

Please quit talking about his elbow. You make him look like a bigger pussy.

Mac4lyfe you my friend are a LEGEND. You as a cavs fan deserve better. God bless you i respect you as a man.

[lyon804]

Mac4lyfe you my friend are a LEGEND. You as a cavs fan deserve better. God bless you i respect you as a man.

Mac4lyfe, is always keeping it real. Dude is old school also and realizes the name on the front of the jersey is more important than the one on the back.

Too many young punk fans and "ballers" and "Kings" don't realize that.

What Lebron did with that team was shameful at the end. Sold them fuks out. If I was a Cleveland fan I would be glad he left. I want people that care about the team and winning a championship.

[Holtgetsback]

Mac4Lyfe spot on here

James is a quitter with no heart williams22 , he proved it tonight.

Even my brother, who doesn't watch basketball but is a lebron fan, called me to confirm he is a quitter.
quitter with no heart

[kobefanatic]

can't wait for kobe to win another ring

[Congruency]

Buddy- Tmac scored 13 points in 33 seconds 3 years ago. His team was down by 9 with about 1:30 left in the game, and he won the game on a game winning 3. Kobe would demand the ball down 20 with 1 minute left...

fair point, obviously he was frustrated out there at the end

[lakerboy]

anyways its time to move on - lebron didnt care and thats all that matters

[actionaddict86]

I agree his elbow is worse than people realize. If he had to shoot a free throw left handed near end of game, that means something serious. Because if he missed (he did), Bulls could make a 3 to tie the game.

actually in that game the cavs were up by 4

[shari91]

Mac4lyfe, is always keeping it real. Dude is old school also and realizes the name on the front of the jersey is more important than the one on the back. Too many young punk fans and "ballers" and "Kings" don't realize that. What Lebron did with that team was shameful at the end. Sold them fuks out. If I was a Cleveland fan I would be glad he left. I want people that care about the team and winning a championship.

You are one wise man, Lyon.

[Mac4Lyfe]

Mac4lyfe you my friend are a LEGEND. You as a cavs fan deserve better. God bless you i respect you as a man.

The city really deserved better. This was probably worse than the Byner fumble. At least he tried to get in the endzone.

Mac4lyfe, is always keeping it real. Dude is old school also and realizes the name on the front of the jersey is more important than the one on the back.

Too many young punk fans and "ballers" and "Kings" don't realize that.

What Lebron did with that team was shameful at the end. Sold them fuks out. If I was a Cleveland fan I would be glad he left. I want people that care about the team and winning a championship.

To be honest Lyon, I thought Lebron was the ultimate team mate until this year. It wasn't until he didn't re-signed that made me see that he was all about himself and what was best for him. I know most people are me first but I really thought he was different. I really thought he cared about the city and cared about his team mates. I would take a pay cut personally if it meant bringing a title to Cleveland. I grew up on Cleveland sports, I know the people, what they've been through economically. There proud people who keep getting shit on by the media that Cleveland is an awful place to live (and it's not except for the snow). So when he had the chance to make a big statement that could have lured top talent he said he would weigh his options. Like some HS cheerleader waiting to decide who she would grace by going to the prom with.

Then he pulls this disappearing act. He comes up with some bullshit injury, never told the Cav's medical staff or Mike Brown for that matter. He uses it to become an attention whore but say's he makes no excuses. WTF. Tonight he reiterated... "Not using the elbow as an excuse, it limited me some". Guess what King. That's an excuse...

If he leaves that will tell me all I need to know about his character. Guy's like Williams will say "go get your money" and will still bow down to him with the highest bidder. They are brainwashed by the media pumping of him. While so far he hasn't won shit. 10 years from now they will still call him King while he won't have any rings unless he changes. I'm starting to see that many of the Cav's issues start and end with Lebron. Until he realizes that and improves, he'll never win.

[nbarlotta3]

They gave up because they knew the game was over. They were down 9 with 30 seconds left so why bother? He just wanted to get it over with.

[Dexter]

Lebron is going to the Nets. JayZ/Brooklyn (where im from).

I will become a homer for sure....

[bigsmitty]

I'm somewhere in the middle of this discussion.

I do think the elbow injury was a factor, but he's had one foot out the door for a while now and seemed to want to expedite the process in the last two games.

Feel pretty much the same as NC. I'll check some more highllights today-from what I saw of LB was very disappointing. He's so far gone from CLE it's laughable to suggest otherwise. Cheers

[rthoughton]

LeBron is just a quitter. Best quote of the night came from Jackson on how they have no identity. Dancing/having fun all year and then when shit gets tough, they quit. They quit having fun, they quit what they do, they quit.
Sorry fellas, Lebron will never get it done, not with that attitude.
And he's a damned showoff. And I don't know about Mo having him quit bc he's leaving. I just think they turn into crybabies when shit gets rough. Shows you their character.
I hit Boston +600 on the series after game1 loss. I had Celts+2 in two parlays last night that both hit. I hate dancing hot shot, showoff faggotry, and I knew that sh*t wouldn't fly against the big three. The ONLY positional adv the Cavs had in that series was at Prince James' position, and the Celts have Pierce. This series shouldn't have even been as close as it was.
But what about Bosh?

[rthoughton]

wasn't it single digits with over a minute??

[williams22]

The city really deserved better. This was probably worse than the Byner fumble. At least he tried to get in the endzone.


To be honest Lyon, I thought Lebron was the ultimate team mate until this year. It wasn't until he didn't re-signed that made me see that he was all about himself and what was best for him. I know most people are me first but I really thought he was different. I really thought he cared about the city and cared about his team mates. I would take a pay cut personally if it meant bringing a title to Cleveland. I grew up on Cleveland sports, I know the people, what they've been through economically. There proud people who keep getting shit on by the media that Cleveland is an awful place to live (and it's not except for the snow). So when he had the chance to make a big statement that could have lured top talent he said he would weigh his options. Like some HS cheerleader waiting to decide who she would grace by going to the prom with.

Then he pulls this disappearing act. He comes up with some bullshit injury, never told the Cav's medical staff or Mike Brown for that matter. He uses it to become an attention whore but say's he makes no excuses. WTF. Tonight he reiterated... "Not using the elbow as an excuse, it limited me some". Guess what King. That's an excuse...

If he leaves that will tell me all I need to know about his character. Guy's like Williams will say "go get your money" and will still bow down to him with the highest bidder. They are brainwashed by the media pumping of him. While so far he hasn't won shit. 10 years from now they will still call him King while he won't have any rings unless he changes. I'm starting to see that many of the Cav's issues start and end with Lebron. Until he realizes that and improves, he'll never win.

Try being grateful. The guy single-handily turned the Cavs franchise profitable again and brought to that god awful city than anyone ever has. If he leaves after this year (which I think he will) he at least gave you (Cleveland fans) 7 great years where he did nothing but play his ass off and promote the franchise.

[og4667]

Lebron is going to the Celtics!!! Thats what he was whispering into KG's ear last night. If you can't beat em join em

[bigsmitty]

Buddy- Tmac scored 13 points in 33 seconds 3 years ago. His team was down by 9 with about 1:30 left in the game, and he won the game on a game winning 3. Kobe would demand the ball down 20 with 1 minute left...

Nice call, obviously something was up-either thinking about his arm and future or worried about the Bruins game tonight...Cheers

[magic8ball]

LeBrons witness banner

So when LeBron publicizes his departure, does the city of Cleveland immediately take the 200'x500' banner down, or do they have some asshole on a scaffold painting a big faggot tear in his eye? Knowing my city, sharp money should be on a bucket of pearly paint.