the lakers were outplayed tonight, plain and simple.
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since i have the lakers for the series i didn't make any bets tonight except lakers 3rd quarter. when that bet lost i doubled up in the fourth quarter and won by half a point.
pickins are gettin real slimComment -
boston had to win it was last game at homeComment -
Not sure how I can resist +6.5 Celtics for game 6. Perhaps retiring from betting for the NBA season would be best.Comment -
I agree Serbie. I am honestly staying away from making a bet on the next one - and if I break down and give in, I'll put a little on Boston. This is the last chance to dance for some of these guys and I think they're going to win it.Comment -
LB are you serious? I will give full credit to Boston they deserve it just as much but Phil is gonna blow it. You need to see that fill made only 2 meager adjustments today, it was all 1 on 1 ball again, no playsets, hardly any triangle O. Come on my man you need to let go of Phil.
He is blowing this for Kobe with his retardness and thats why I only took LA in game at +10.5. Kobe was their only hope. He is a wussy?
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What can phil do? His players are soft as shit and sit around and watch kobe. Bynum is hurt, Odom is MIA, they dont see defense like this.
"This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
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Can't it be both?LB are you serious? I will give full credit to Boston they deserve it just as much but Phil is gonna blow it. You need to see that fill made only 2 meager adjustments today, it was all 1 on 1 ball again, no playsets, hardly any triangle O. Come on my man you need to let go of Phil.
He is blowing this for Kobe with his retardness and thats why I only took LA in game at +10.5. Kobe was their only hope. He is a wussy?
It's Phil and the supporting cast. Only one has to show up to complement Kobe and the Lakers will win.Comment -
Kobe didn't look too happy with Phil's decisions tonight - no doubt about that.Comment -
I back this statement up LB 100%. Just like I said before the game... Boston, would die,bleed, and kill for the man beside him. They have that..."Nobody is bigger than the team mentaility" Everybodies role is important as the #1 player. There is a togetherness and cohesivenss with there team.
All BS aside, you said it best.. It really just comes down to who wants it more. At this point it looks like Boston but I am sure there is another story not told yet at Staples.
Either way this is the series I was hoping for.Comment -
Boston is getting one of these games, no doubt in my mind. I called them winning the series while they were still playing Orlando. Now Phil recorded on camera saying the Celtics are 4th quarter losers. More fuel to the fire.Comment -
kobe carried the the team tonight to avoid getting blown out, fuk gasol, odumbass, artestComment -
one thing boston wont have anymore is that crowd...seems like they fed off of that energy...the lakers still only lost by 6 points and played absolute shit basketball...i still think they can win it...they will win the next one IMOComment -
More and more proof that the 2000 lakers cant wash the 90s Bulls socks.
I said all season and all before the playoffs. This team is not dominant. Get Byum and Artest out of there."This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
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LB are you serious? I will give full credit to Boston they deserve it just as much but Phil is gonna blow it. You need to see that fill made only 2 meager adjustments today, it was all 1 on 1 ball again, no playsets, hardly any triangle O. Come on my man you need to let go of Phil.
He is blowing this for Kobe with his retardness and thats why I only took LA in game at +10.5. Kobe was their only hope. He is a wussy?
Yada yada yada
Artest and Odom missed key ft's. Gasol was stuffed by Tony Allen. Come on Goat let it go. Obviously Kobe had a good game but Boston knows that Kobe cant beat them by himself. The rest of the players showed no spine. Despite all that Boston did and how great they shot the Lakers were right there. If it makes you feel better to blame Phil then so be it. THe way i look at it - the heart is bigger in Boston.
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All I know is that LA has made me a hell of a lot of money this season and now it's time for me to stop giving it back and face the facts that the gravy train is over. I went against my love for the dogs and it nailed me this game. No more.Comment -
wasn't the over such as tease tonight..i swearComment -
But thats what im saying......the lakers are "spineless" just like LB just said. You think Scottie Pippen, Dennis Rodman, and Ron Harper would just sit around and watch MJ get smothered and double clutch fadeaway 3s.....please"This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
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While, I have the C's for the series..I played the Lakers tonight thinking they would win game 5 to make things more interesting and while everyone wants to say the refs messed the game up. KOBE BRYANT IS THE REASON THE LAKERS LOST TONIGHT. He showed absolutely no trust in his teamates and played this like a regular season game. Boston will continue to play as a team and the Lakers.....lose the money as they did tonight and will be fishing early if they do not do something about Kobes trust factor. IF I AM A TEAMATE I WOULD BE RIPPING KOBE A NEW ASS!!!!!!!!!!Comment -
Can LA win both games at home?Comment -
pac-man got buried these last 2 games. no, i was not biased, i called it wrong. dropped a ton. best for ya to fade me from now on.Comment -
Kobe doesnt trust his players and they know that. And they play like it."This is why my basketball intelligence is unmatched on this site. I'm sure there are better cappers but no one can tell you the strategies of most coaches before the game even starts "
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Lb, i just let off a whole round off my berratta, feels a lil better pal. still pissed and stings, but feels just a lil better . very small satifsfaction.Comment -
I can't wait to see Donaghy's analysis on this game.Scared money don't make money
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Let’s just get into the keys and the important parts.
Boston is the same deadly half-court defensive team they were in 08. The 1 serious flaw with the Celtics defense that can be exploited is their transition D. The Lakers are a half-court offensive team. But think about who they have played in the Playoffs thus far. OKC, Utah, and the Suns—all fast-paced offensive teams that like to run with the rock. I think you know what I’m getting at. I was saying that for the Magic to win games they need to push the ball, Wario didn't figure it out til game 4. Magic won 2 straight.
Boston has played all half-court teams this playoffs. The Heat, the Cavs, the Magic. The Celtics wouldn’t be able to handle a fast-paced Suns team. They would wear them out over 7 games. Although some say the Lakers haven’t been tested defensively, they are a defense-in-progress, and playing against three of the best offensive teams in the league only made their defense better over the last month. Have the Celtics been challenged defensively? They guarded Lebron, but that's because Lebron doesn't have a jump shot like Kobe. D Wade destroyed the Celtics in that series. If only he had a few DECENT players....
MATCHUPS
KOBE VS. CELTICS: In 08, Kobe was too aggressive. Trying to drive and get to the rim too much. Celtics were trapping him hard when he tried to drive. Kobe will conserve his energy for the end of these games, watch. He will shoot jumpers as long as theyre testing him. . Kobe is going to start each game taking lots of jumpers, then they will realize how deadly he is from mid range and not give him space. They're finished once they try to body him up on the elbow.
*Ray Allen and Toney Allen will guard Kobe in this series.
Lets just omit this as well: Boston is not tougher than the Lakers. Mentally, the Lakers are tougher this year than they were in 08, the Celtics can get rattled easily offensively before they regroup. Physically the Celtics are tougher.
Artest vs. Pierce: Artest is one of the best covers in the league on Pierce. No strength advantage for Pierce. Artest has some of the quickest hands in the league, he knows Pierces move its a step back jumper from either elbow. Artest knows this move, whats good about Artest even though hes still not a great defensive player is that he stays down on pump fakes. Pierce will have a few huge games in this series, most likely game 3 in Boston IMO.
Artest has all the confidence in the world after that pussy buzzer beater. I knew it when I bet the Suns game 6 that Artest would be my biggest fear Hes going to be a BIG factor in this series.
Rondo vs. Kobe/Fisher/Brown: Fisher will guard Rondo to begin with, I wouldnt be surprised if Phil put Kobe on Pierce in the beginning to conserve his energy and put Ron on Ray Allen, but Kobe will make that decision himself. When Fisher is out of the game, Kobe will guard Rondo. Has anyone ever seen Kobe Bryant play defense when hes trying? Kobe will shut down Rondo. Rondo plays off the pick and roll, but playing against Kobe will intimidate him trust me. Hell hesitate to knock down the jumper.
The great thing about Rondo is that he can create his own driving lanes. He doesnt need a lane he just makes his own. Rondo better not get too fancy with the Ball against Kobe though unless he wants to get swiped. Rondo will get his against Fisher and Brown all day. I dont know when Kobe will demand to be put on Rondo. Maybe wel see it in Game 1.
There is one play the Celtics like to run in Key situations. Let rondo dribble left from the baseline area off two screens, one from ray and one from KG. KG then sets a pick for Ray and Rondo find him at the top of the key for a 3 usually.
KG Gasol: KG not the same as he was in 08. Same intensity, same focus, not the same athletically. I think KG is going to get lots of looks though off Rondo pick and Roll and Gasol will be left stranded in the lane at times. KG will play well this series. Gasol can shoot over the top of KG any day. Hes too long and KG has lost the lift in his legs.
Other matchups:
When Odom and Gasol are in the game, Rivers will use Perkins/Sheed and KG/Davis. Sheed is a solid Cover on Gasol, and Odom and KG will get the better of one another at different points in this series. Big Baby will also guard Odom throughout this series. But that is a huge mismatch in Odoms favor. When Phil sees that matchup he will tell Odom to bring the ball up the court and just take Davis off the dribble from the 3 line.
Bynum vs. Perkins/Sheed: Bynum will be solid offensively in the first 2 games of this series. Hes rested, and hes being directed to say his knee just feels okay. Hes ready to go at least for game 1-2. Perkins has a nice matchup on the offensive end, but the Celts won’t give it to him in the post .Perkins can take Bynum in the post any day if he wants.
Sheed vs. Odom- when Sheed is in the game Odom will guard him. Sheeds only advantage here is taking Odom in the post. Odom can guard him on the perimeter. Sheeds post game is nothing. It used to be amazing.
Vujacic/Bryant/Artest/Shannon Brown on Ray Allen: Ray Allen is going to have a BIG series. Vujacic is going to have to play huge minutes in this series because Phil likes his peskiness against Ray. Shannon Brown is not very good at running through screen, Ray Allen will destroy Brown, so im not even sure if Phil will toy with this idea. Kobe will guard Ray limited minutes to conserve his energy.
Celtics Bench: Marquis Daniels blows. If he plays any time in this series I wouldnt be surprised because Rivers is the worst coach in the NBA at using his bench. Ive been saying for so long why arent they playing Nate Robinson? He’s instant offense. Sure enough Marquis and Tony getting injured was a blessing in disguise for the Celtics because Rivers finally played Robinson. Robinson will play great in Boston. Sheed has been discussed. Tony Allen is just for defensive purposes, but is a solid offensive transition player. Michael Finely is washed up. **Michael Finely will hit 1 big shot for the Celts in a game. Big Baby discussed.
Lakers Bench: Vujacic will play big minutes to stay with Ray defensively. Phil will go with whoever is hot Brown or Farmar, they will both play against Nate Robinson. Powell will play minutes against Big Baby/KG. Nate Robinson is a very good defender. He might irritate these guys at different points in this series. Luke Walton will play a bit as well, hes a solid facilitator. Brown is too big for Robinson though. I think hell ask for it in the post a lot when theyre both on the floor together. Odom is a big factor for LA. Lets just say that when Odom plays well the Lakers are tough to beat.
Once the Celtics realize they cant guard Kobe the same way as they did last time, theyre going to get lost defensively and start leaving those guys for open 3s. You're not going to be able to collapse on Bryant this time, he knows where the help is coming from and will just go away from it, hes studied film for the last 2 years probably every night.
Fisher: Fisher will have a solid series. Hit a few big shots like always. Rondo defense cant really be used to Boston’s advantage guarding Fisher, Farmar, or Brown 1 on 1. Instead of shutting down a player like Mo Williams or Jameer, who need to play great for their teams to win.
**Boston will switch to the zone at some point most likely. I would be very shocked if Boston comes out with a zone to begin with, but they have definitely looked at some of the things PHX was doing. Either way, LA learned to play against an effective zone, and Boston will come out man to man game 1. Rondos speed is a big problem for Fisher and Farmar, but Bryant knows how to play him, speed becomes irrelevant when your giving the guy the jumper. Boston doesnt know any better than to play the same defense they have been playing this whole playoffs and what they played against Kobe in 08. They will make adjustments accordingly.
WHAT WILL PHIL DO?
-Lakers will fade the triangle offense at times
- Iso at the elbow with Bryant. Two man pick and roll with Kobe and Gasol/Odom on one side of the floor. If Kobe just goes away from the help hell have that running jump shot he likes so much.
- Why is Phil trying to get in Garnettes head? Come on Phil, youre not going to get in Nets head with those comments.
- Use Odom big minutes and let him basically run the point against a slow KG or Big Baby.
- Get Bynum going early
- Dont slow the ball down. Run with the ball. Get into your offensive sets very quickly.
What Will Rivers Do?
- Play Big Baby and Nate Robinson 1 and 2 off the benc
- Lots of pick and Roll sets Garnett/Big Baby and Rondo/Robinson
- Isolations for Ray Allen at times
- Try to establish KG early
- Pierce isos on the elbow as usual, Perkins/Sheed will usually set a pick for him because he's not looking to really pass off the pick and roll. He's going to the hole.
- How do you get the Lakers to collapse in paint if Pierce can't draw a double and neither can Rondo?
- Slow down the ball: take great, efficient shots, be patient on offense
- Not go for too many offensive rebounds. Get back-- transition D.
Are the Lakers a better team than they were in 08? Yes. Gasol is now a champion. Artest is much better than Ariza. Artest will prove a lot of people wrong this series. Bench has the experience and the ring. They lost Rodmanavic, no one else important. The Celtics should have swept the Lakers in 08 the way the Lakers played. Everything they did was forced.
Are the Celtics a better team than they were in 08? Yes. Rondo is much better than he was in 08. But KG is worse. Pierce and Allen are the same. The Celtics bench is worse IMO. James Posey was a huge part of that Celtics team as was Leone Powe. The only good addition this year was Nate Robinson. Sheed is too inconsistent. Posey and Powe brought it every night they were the leaders off that bench.
The Celtics are dogs though, and they thrive on being dogs. For those that think the Celtics will go down in 4 or 5 or maybe even 6 should consider this.
Rivers>Phil (no, Phil is no zen-master. They both know how to inspire their guys, but Phil is weird and doesn't make adjustments as good as Rivers)
Celtics Bench =(>) Lakers BenchGasol and KG will be solid all series
Odom will outlay Big Baby and Sheed
Ray Allen will have a big series
Pierce will struggle at times. He will have big games and he will have horrible games.
Artest(BUT SOLID DEFNESIVELY FOR THE MOST PART) and [B]Fisher will have a solid series[B]
Rondo will struggle at times
Kobe>Celtics
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