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  • tonywayne
    SBR High Roller
    • 11-05-13
    • 229

    #106
    Hey guys. Just found this thread; I'm going to play in the SDQL (it really appeals to the former programmer in me), but I wanted to see if someone wouldn't mind posting the queries from post #1 and post #4 (I apologize if they're elsewhere in the thread and I overlooked them). And/or what is the current record this season on either of those situations?

    Anyone know if there's anything like this for college BB or FB? I've got some stuff going in a personal database, but could sure use access to some larger data to do backtesting & whatnot.

    Thanks!
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    • Wojo
      SBR MVP
      • 03-19-10
      • 1764

      #107
      Originally posted by makecash4me
      ....fking bitch
      Make me some cash now, go data mine and give me some good plays
      You have to be the biggest JERK I have seen on this forum in years!
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      • makecash4me
        SBR Rookie
        • 02-23-14
        • 14

        #108
        you're gonna post the plays sooner or later hurry the fk up and post the play

        jmon or mako or slickguy




        post it up slaves, data mine and report back
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        • Mako-SBR
          SBR Sharp
          • 10-15-13
          • 492

          #109
          Originally posted by figue
          sorry my bad was today,glad i missed lol.
          Tell me about it, both plays lost today and I figured they would as both were at 90%+ on the season...but hey no fun in sitting on the sidelines heheh.
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          • makecash4me
            SBR Rookie
            • 02-23-14
            • 14

            #110
            Originally posted by Mako-SBR
            Tell me about it, both plays lost today and I figured they would as both were at 90%+ on the season...but hey no fun in sitting on the sidelines heheh.
            ya both plays fkin lost today get me my money back

            break time is over stop slacking go find something better and give the play for tomorrow
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            • Noleafclover
              SBR MVP
              • 06-06-13
              • 1349

              #111
              Originally posted by tonywayne
              Hey guys. Just found this thread; I'm going to play in the SDQL (it really appeals to the former programmer in me), but I wanted to see if someone wouldn't mind posting the queries from post #1 and post #4 (I apologize if they're elsewhere in the thread and I overlooked them). And/or what is the current record this season on either of those situations?

              Anyone know if there's anything like this for college BB or FB? I've got some stuff going in a personal database, but could sure use access to some larger data to do backtesting & whatnot.

              Thanks!
              admins won't allow it to be posted, but pm'd you.
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              • Dynobites
                SBR Rookie
                • 02-19-14
                • 39

                #112
                The over is 19-0 when the Bucks are coming off a game they lost in which they scored 100 pts or more

                31-1 L 32 scenarios
                48-2 L 50 scenarios
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                • tonywayne
                  SBR High Roller
                  • 11-05-13
                  • 229

                  #113
                  Originally posted by Noleafclover
                  admins won't allow it to be posted, but pm'd you.
                  Thanks, clover. I appreciate that.
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                  • ch_theos
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 02-18-14
                    • 8

                    #114
                    Originally posted by Dynobites
                    The over is 19-0 when the Bucks are coming off a game they lost in which they scored 100 pts or more

                    31-1 L 32 scenarios
                    48-2 L 50 scenarios

                    Love this thread guys, but this is wrong

                    Its stayed under 3 times in this situation just in 2014, didnt bother checking past that
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                    • 19th Hole
                      SBR Posting Legend
                      • 03-22-09
                      • 18922

                      #115
                      Dynobites The over is 19-0 when the Bucks are coming off a game they lost in which they scored 100 pts or more

                      31-1 L 32 scenarios
                      48-2 L 50 scenarios



                      Originally posted by ch_theos
                      Love this thread guys, but this is wrong

                      Its stayed under 3 times in this situation just in 2014, didnt bother checking past that
                      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~
                      This is totally inaccurate .... Over is 4-6 this season in that spot
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                      • Noleafclover
                        SBR MVP
                        • 06-06-13
                        • 1349

                        #116
                        Originally posted by 19th Hole
                        Dynobites The over is 19-0 when the Bucks are coming off a game they lost in which they scored 100 pts or more

                        31-1 L 32 scenarios
                        48-2 L 50 scenarios





                        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~
                        This is totally inaccurate .... Over is 4-6 this season in that spot
                        Suspicious, he seems like a shill.

                        Anyone have the SDQL for team coming home off 2 ATS road wins?

                        Something like "H and p: (atswin?) and pp: (atswin?)" (spaces added to avoid sadface emote).

                        Or was the situation just coming off 2 previous wins, I have that one but it's not absolutely amazing. 57% for other side.

                        Other question, is it possible to show more than 50 responses?
                        Last edited by Noleafclover; 02-24-14, 03:20 PM.
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                        • Mako-SBR
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 10-15-13
                          • 492

                          #117
                          One I created this morning, interestingly it correctly called the last two difficult-to-cap Miami games though that wasn't the goal.

                          It operates off the principal that a talented team lost as a favorite to a less talented opponent earlier in the season, has played well since that time and/or gotten stronger as the season progressed, and now gets the opportunity for revenge against said team after coming off two straight road wins and having great momentum before the payback game:

                          (F or AD) and WP>62 and o:WP>35 and P:FL and p:AW and pp:AW and game number>=25

                          Originally posted by Noleafclover
                          Suspicious, he seems like a shill. Anyone have the SDQL for team coming home off 2 ATS road wins? Other question, is it possible to show more than 50 responses?
                          Yeah we've warned him previously about small team trends with low samples being dangerous as we've seen countless people fall into that trap with the SDQL over time but if he wants to pursue that route it's up to him.

                          The command to show previous ats wins/losses is 'p:ats margin>0' or 'p:ats margin<0' depending upon what you're trying to display.

                          To show more results than 50 on the page, add this to the actual URL of the browser once the query is finished loading: '+&show_games=1000'

                          That shows up to 1000 entries on that page for any query, and you can set the '1000' to whatever number you like.
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                          • Wojo
                            SBR MVP
                            • 03-19-10
                            • 1764

                            #118
                            Thanks, Mako, for posting how to show 1000 games.
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                            • JMon
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 12-11-09
                              • 9800

                              #119
                              Fig, I worked on one. "What we're looking for are home underdogs of +110 or greater that have a better record than their opponent."

                              This has actually tanked, but did find out that it's a very good doggie in Sept and Oct, which happens to be my fav months to play dogs in the MLB. I did go back and start with +105 as we were missing some good numbers. Too my amazement... NEVER a losing season since the start of the database. . I did filter it with "and season" so one can see winning seasons all the way down. I will work on the others with i find some more time.

                              Enjoy fellas.

                              H and line>=105 and WP>o:WP and (month=9 or month=10) and season
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                              • husky
                                SBR Sharp
                                • 08-14-13
                                • 261

                                #120
                                Thanks JMon! Can I ask if you apply filters to your systems, or do you just roll with them?
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                                • figue
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 07-23-10
                                  • 2524

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by JMon
                                  Fig, I worked on one. "What we're looking for are home underdogs of +110 or greater that have a better record than their opponent."

                                  This has actually tanked, but did find out that it's a very good doggie in Sept and Oct, which happens to be my fav months to play dogs in the MLB. I did go back and start with +105 as we were missing some good numbers. Too my amazement... NEVER a losing season since the start of the database. . I did filter it with "and season" so one can see winning seasons all the way down. I will work on the others with i find some more time.

                                  Enjoy fellas.

                                  H and line>=105 and WP>o:WP and (month=9 or month=10) and season
                                  how about this jmon :

                                  Baseball Divisional Underdog Method
                                  No other sport will see a team go through as many peaks and valleys as baseball. Not only is this due to the sheer number of games each team plays, but also due to the number of games played on consecutive days. While the NBA may make an issue out of teams playing three games in four days, it isn't unusual to see baseball teams playing 10 or more days in a row.
                                  For that reason, the sports is also more prone to streaks, both winning and losing that the others, even though at the end of the season the worst baseball teams will have a higher winning percentage than the worse NBA team, while the best baseball team will have a lower winning percentage than the best NBA squad.
                                  Some baseball bettors have a rule not to bet on a team that didn't win its previous game. That might be a little too much, but at least there is some rationale for that train of thought, especially when betting underdogs.
                                  In fact, taking divisional underdogs off a straight up win, either over today's opponent or the previous team it played, has been one of the most successful systems over the past seven seasons, showing a profit in six of the seven years. The lone exception was 2009, a year in which underdog bettors shudder just thinking about, as favorites won an extraordinary number of games that season.
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                                  • Noleafclover
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 06-06-13
                                    • 1349

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by Mako-SBR
                                    (F or AD) and WP>62 and o:WP>35 and P:FL and p:AW and pp:AW and game number>=25
                                    A lot like the other revenge one.

                                    Originally posted by Mako-SBR
                                    The command to show previous ats wins/losses is 'p:ats margin>0' or 'p:ats margin<0' depending upon what you're trying to display.

                                    To show more results than 50 on the page, add this to the actual URL of the browser once the query is finished loading: '+&show_games=1000'

                                    That shows up to 1000 entries on that page for any query, and you can set the '1000' to whatever number you like.
                                    Thanks!

                                    Originally posted by Mako-SBR
                                    Yeah we've warned him previously about small team trends with low samples being dangerous as we've seen countless people fall into that trap with the SDQL over time but if he wants to pursue that route it's up to him.
                                    To be clear, I'm calling him a possible shill (read: employed by someone with a vested interest in posters losing money, like sbr or the books, and disguising that fact), because he gave wrong information (corrected by 2 others).
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                                    • Dynobites
                                      SBR Rookie
                                      • 02-19-14
                                      • 39

                                      #123
                                      Sorry about earlier guys, I posted that last night no idea how I came across it. Sorry for the bad info. At least we have guys here correcting it
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                                      • makecash4me
                                        SBR Rookie
                                        • 02-23-14
                                        • 14

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by JMon
                                        Fig, I worked on one. "What we're looking for are home underdogs of +110 or greater that have a better record than their opponent."

                                        This has actually tanked, but did find out that it's a very good doggie in Sept and Oct, which happens to be my fav months to play dogs in the MLB. I did go back and start with +105 as we were missing some good numbers. Too my amazement... NEVER a losing season since the start of the database. . I did filter it with "and season" so one can see winning seasons all the way down. I will work on the others with i find some more time.

                                        Enjoy fellas.

                                        H and line>=105 and WP>o:WP and (month=9 or month=10) and season
                                        Originally posted by Mako-SBR
                                        One I created this morning, interestingly it correctly called the last two difficult-to-cap Miami games though that wasn't the goal.

                                        It operates off the principal that a talented team lost as a favorite to a less talented opponent earlier in the season, has played well since that time and/or gotten stronger as the season progressed, and now gets the opportunity for revenge against said team after coming off two straight road wins and having great momentum before the payback game:

                                        (F or AD) and WP>62 and o:WP>35 and P:FL and p:AW and pp:AW and game number>=25



                                        Yeah we've warned him previously about small team trends with low samples being dangerous as we've seen countless people fall into that trap with the SDQL over time but if he wants to pursue that route it's up to him.

                                        The command to show previous ats wins/losses is 'p:ats margin>0' or 'p:ats margin<0' depending upon what you're trying to display.

                                        To show more results than 50 on the page, add this to the actual URL of the browser once the query is finished loading: '+&show_games=1000'

                                        That shows up to 1000 entries on that page for any query, and you can set the '1000' to whatever number you like.

                                        good work slaves now go find some more
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                                        • JMon
                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                          • 12-11-09
                                          • 9800

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by figue
                                          how about this jmon :

                                          Baseball Divisional Underdog Method
                                          D and DIV and (p:W or P:W) and season

                                          The above cranked out astronomical numbers through 2004-2008, as explained above tanked in 2009, bounced back in 2010, tanked in 2011, small profit 2012 and absolutely got hammered last year. Something that will not be saved in my database.
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                                          • JMon
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 12-11-09
                                            • 9800

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by figue
                                            some others ::

                                            <!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:RelyOnVML/> <o:AllowPNG/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings> </xml><![endif]--> Baseball's Beaten Favorites With a season that is 162 games long, it's only natural that there will be days Major League Baseball teams don't give their best efforts. Playing day-after-day can take its toll on the players both mentally and physically, and as baseball bettors, one of the things we try to predict is when those games will be, as well as those games when a team is likely to go all-out for a victory. One scenario where a team has given that little bit of extra effort in the past is when they have lost the previous game as a favorite of -200 or more and are playing the same opponent again today, as long as it is playing a team outside its division. As we mentioned in the article divisional underdogs have historically been decent wagers in the past, as teams are more likely to give their best efforts against a team in the same division. A team that defeats a divisional favorite on one day is just as likely to be up for the next game, since they are still playing in its division, while a team that wins as a large non-divisional underdog is more prone to a bit of a letdown the next day.
                                            A six-year study of losing favorites of -200 or more show they have responded with a 514-295 record for a gain of 93.87 units in the next game, provided they are playing a non-divisional team. Bettors can tell from the gain of units, compared to the record, they will be again be laying some decent odds, but the risk has been worth it, as teams in this situation have won 63.5-percent of their games the next time out. 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                                            Not bad if like laying high juice, which I don't mind if the spot is right. Nonetheless if you don't like laying high juice in bases, at least this situation would filter out any dogs you may like for the day. Only one losing year, 73% winners (only thing I added was a line parameter)

                                            p:line<=-200 and p:L and SG>1 and division!=o:division and HF and -120>=line>=-300 and 2005<=season
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                                            • Mako-SBR
                                              SBR Sharp
                                              • 10-15-13
                                              • 492

                                              #127
                                              Nice JMon, and good thinking about using it as a screener to weed out dogs that otherwise might be played...smart.
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                                              • b1slickguy
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 11-24-11
                                                • 11959

                                                #128
                                                Home
                                                Total>205
                                                Previous home loss
                                                Previous outscored by 15 or more in 2H

                                                H and total>205 and p:HL and po:P3-p:P3 + po:P4-p:P4>14 and season>=2008

                                                Have this saved without the total filter, but posted line and total align nicely with.
                                                Good luck.
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                                                • JMon
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                                                  • 12-11-09
                                                  • 9800

                                                  #129
                                                  oS(ats margin>0, N=15)>=12

                                                  check this out in NCAAB... 1 parameter produces 61% winners! Contrarian!!

                                                  (playing on a team that is playing a team that has covered 12 or more out their last 15)

                                                  I turned this into 78% winners by adding a couple of parameter...Let me know what you guys come up with!
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                                                  • JMon
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                                                    • 12-11-09
                                                    • 9800

                                                    #130
                                                    Originally posted by b1slickguy
                                                    Home
                                                    Total>205
                                                    Previous home loss
                                                    Previous outscored by 15 or more in 2H

                                                    H and total>205 and p:HL and po:P3-p:P3 + po:P4-p:P4>14 and season>=2008

                                                    Have this saved without the total filter, but posted line and total align nicely with.
                                                    Good luck.
                                                    Nice slicker...I was already on Port...with two other situations favoring Port. Added another unit.
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                                                    • Mako-SBR
                                                      SBR Sharp
                                                      • 10-15-13
                                                      • 492

                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by b1slickguy
                                                      Home
                                                      Total>205
                                                      Previous home loss
                                                      Previous outscored by 15 or more in 2H

                                                      H and total>205 and p:HL and po:P3-p:P3 + po:P4-p:P4>14 and season>=2008

                                                      Have this saved without the total filter, but posted line and total align nicely with.
                                                      Good luck.
                                                      Nice, like it already.

                                                      Originally posted by JMon
                                                      oS(ats margin>0, N=15)>=12

                                                      check this out in NCAAB... 1 parameter produces 61% winners! Contrarian!!

                                                      (playing on a team that is playing a team that has covered 12 or more out their last 15)

                                                      I turned this into 78% winners by adding a couple of parameter...Let me know what you guys come up with!
                                                      Solid! Few minutes playing with it and am attracted to this subset so far:

                                                      D and oS(ats margin>0, N=15)>=12 and rest<=3

                                                      Lets you stay on what are usually pretty sizeable dogs, while still boosting the average ATSm and Z-Value of the system versus the base query.

                                                      Originally posted by JMon

                                                      Nice slicker...I was already on Port...with two other situations favoring Port. Added another unit.
                                                      Ha, same, just added another unit on Portland after reading b1's post and seeing that they matched another system we've been running.
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                                                      • b1slickguy
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 11-24-11
                                                        • 11959

                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by JMon
                                                        oS(ats margin>0, N=15)>=12

                                                        check this out in NCAAB... 1 parameter produces 61% winners! Contrarian!!

                                                        (playing on a team that is playing a team that has covered 12 or more out their last 15)

                                                        I turned this into 78% winners by adding a couple of parameter...Let me know what you guys come up with!
                                                        Close to 74%. (knew to start with doggies if you saved it....lol)

                                                        D and oS(ats margin>0, N=15)>=12 and month<3




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                                                        </game></game>
                                                        Last edited by b1slickguy; 02-25-14, 08:26 PM.
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                                                        • b1slickguy
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 11-24-11
                                                          • 11959

                                                          #133
                                                          Home dog
                                                          Total>205
                                                          Previous away dog win
                                                          Previous line>=4
                                                          One day of rest or more

                                                          HD and total>205 and p:ADW and p:line>=4 and rest>0 and season >= 2005

                                                          Good luck.
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                                                          • JMon
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                                                            • 12-11-09
                                                            • 9800

                                                            #134
                                                            slicker you crazy good
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                                                            • b1slickguy
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 11-24-11
                                                              • 11959

                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by JMon
                                                              slicker you crazy good
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                                                              • JMon
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 12-11-09
                                                                • 9800

                                                                #136
                                                                nice work fukkers. give me some
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                                                                • Mako-SBR
                                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                                  • 10-15-13
                                                                  • 492

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by JMon
                                                                  nice work fukkers. give me some
                                                                  They suuuuuuuure tried hard to give it away at the end, gotta love Portland...

                                                                  We won on Chicago too, very nice, very nice.
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                                                                  • JMon
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 12-11-09
                                                                    • 9800

                                                                    #138
                                                                    MON($) TUE($) WED($) THU($) FRI($) SAT($) SUN($) Week($)
                                                                    Casino 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
                                                                    Sportsbook 500.00 300.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 800.00
                                                                    Horse 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
                                                                    Other 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00
                                                                    Total 800.00
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                                                                    • JMon
                                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                      • 12-11-09
                                                                      • 9800

                                                                      #139
                                                                      cash ^
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                                                                      • Mako-SBR
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 10-15-13
                                                                        • 492

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Rollin baby
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