2013/14 NBA Thread

**t-wizzle** · 05-19-14, 10:38 AM

I think it's a huge loss. Not only do they lose their rim protector, but they lose a very good mid range shooter who can draw Duncan away from the basket.

This is going to create huge matchup issues for OKC. They go small and put Durant at the 4 and they'll get eaten alive down low. Perkins is terrible. They can give Adams more minutes but he'll likely end up just being a fouling machine.

Spurs might sweep.

**Seto** · 05-19-14, 10:47 AM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

I think it's a huge loss. Not only do they lose their rim protector, but they lose a very good mid range shooter who can draw Duncan away from the basket.

This is going to create huge matchup issues for OKC. They go small and put Durant at the 4 and they'll get eaten alive down low. Perkins is terrible. They can give Adams more minutes but he'll likely end up just being a fouling machine.

Spurs might sweep.

They can put Durant on Splitter I guess. That said one doesn't think of Splitter as a threat in the post and he has the quirkiest moves ever but he somehow scores on them

Agree on Adams. He will have an impact in the games where he can stay out of foul trouble but that's likely once every 2 or 3 games.

Sweep you think? That bad? What I do believe for sure is that if the Spurs win this series they will win it all. It does feel weird to say that given I pick Miami every year and it has worked for me so far (once easily and once miraculously) but I think the Spurs will beat them this time. I thought about taking futures on them yesterday but wasn't that confident they were beating OKC so chose to wait.

**Seto** · 05-19-14, 10:58 AM

Westbrook over 25.5 looks good to me. Pop probably wants him to shoot.

Gonna wait and see if I can get a better line.

**Seto** · 05-19-14, 02:15 PM

Russell Westbrook over 38.5 pts+reb+ast -120 (bet365) (risking 2.4x to win 2x)

Already liked him to have a big game, and with 5D at 41.5 on this particular prop no way I could pass it up.

**vasilli07** · 05-19-14, 02:46 PM

That's Westbrook prop looks good.

**Seto** · 05-19-14, 10:27 PM

Today: 0-1, -2.4x
Total: 249-297-9, +23.57x

Disgusting, just absolutely fukking disgusting. There's nothing worse than losing a prop on a player because he gets pulled early. He bricked 2 FT's that could have won it for me and had a rebound stolen from him because of a BS 24-second violation call.

**Pauulzcappin** · 05-19-14, 10:32 PM

Hammering the Heat tomorrow. If that doesn't work I'll just move a lot on them ML game 3 at home.

**t-wizzle** · 05-19-14, 10:37 PM

Originally posted by Pauulzcappin

Hammering the Heat tomorrow. If that doesn't work I'll just move a lot on them ML game 3 at home.

You sure about Heat tomorrow Pauul? No way they go down 0-2 right?

**Pauulzcappin** · 05-19-14, 10:44 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

You sure about Heat tomorrow Pauul? No way they go down 0-2 right?

They obviously could, books actually think they might. Just think it's a good spot.

**ChiLLx** · 05-19-14, 10:51 PM

Originally posted by Pauulzcappin

Hammering the Heat tomorrow. If that doesn't work I'll just move a lot on them ML game 3 at home.

Yeah this seems like the easy move...

**Pauulzcappin** · 05-19-14, 10:52 PM

Originally posted by ChiLLx

Yeah this seems like the easy move...

I honestly think that the game was a lot closer than most people think. They shot like shit from 3 and it was barely a 10 pt game.

No ONE on indy had a bad game. NO ONE.

**t-wizzle** · 05-19-14, 11:04 PM

Originally posted by Pauulzcappin

I honestly think that the game was a lot closer than most people think. They shot like shit from 3 and it was barely a 10 pt game.

No ONE on indy had a bad game. NO ONE.

I totally get this logic Pauul. But let's talk about the flip side. Both James and Wade played very good games. So other than Bosh, you're relying on all role players to play better. They might, but then again, they might not. They are "role players" after all. You know what I mean?

I guess what I'm saying is if Lebron or Wade had a really off game, it'd be a lot easier to expect a bounceback performance in Game 2.

**Pauulzcappin** · 05-19-14, 11:16 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

I totally get this logic Pauul. But let's talk about the flip side. Both James and Wade played very good games. So other than Bosh, you're relying on all role players to play better. They might, but then again, they might not. They are "role players" after all. You know what I mean?

I guess what I'm saying is if Lebron or Wade had a really off game, it'd be a lot easier to expect a bounceback performance in Game 2.

James had a pretty much average James game, nothing aside from normal. Wade really had a great game and he will play this series with a chip on his shoulder because Stephenson is stupid and talked shit about his knee.

Let's talk about the flip side as well. Is Chris Bosh just a role player? I don't think so and he had a really bad game. I imagine he will step up tomorrow and is all said and done. If he hits one 3 or a few jump shots early they will have to close out on him and open the lanes.

I understand your point about a bounce back game and that's what I expect from Bosh. Chalmers also played as bad as he could and it wasn't a blowout.

If I could honestly trust Indy I'd take them in a heartbeat but I think they overperformed on game 1.

**t-wizzle** · 05-19-14, 11:23 PM

Originally posted by Pauulzcappin

James had a pretty much average James game, nothing aside from normal. Wade really had a great game and he will play this series with a chip on his shoulder because Stephenson is stupid and talked shit about his knee.

Let's talk about the flip side as well. Is Chris Bosh just a role player? I don't think so and he had a really bad game. I imagine he will step up tomorrow and is all said and done. If he hits one 3 or a few jump shots early they will have to close out on him and open the lanes.

I understand your point about a bounce back game and that's what I expect from Bosh. Chalmers also played as bad as he could and it wasn't a blowout.

If I could honestly trust Indy I'd take them in a heartbeat but I think they overperformed on game 1.

I was saying Bosh isn't a role player (although he sure as hell as played like one against Indy the last couple years). But yea, you're probably right about Indiana overperforming. We'll discuss again tomorrow.

**GT21Megatron** · 05-19-14, 11:43 PM

Originally posted by Pauulzcappin

James had a pretty much average James game, nothing aside from normal. Wade really had a great game and he will play this series with a chip on his shoulder because Stephenson is stupid and talked shit about his knee.

Let's talk about the flip side as well. Is Chris Bosh just a role player? I don't think so and he had a really bad game. I imagine he will step up tomorrow and is all said and done. If he hits one 3 or a few jump shots early they will have to close out on him and open the lanes.

I understand your point about a bounce back game and that's what I expect from Bosh. Chalmers also played as bad as he could and it wasn't a blowout.

If I could honestly trust Indy I'd take them in a heartbeat but I think they overperformed on game 1.

14 playoff games that Indiana has played this year in the playoffs they shot over 50% just three times, one of those three was last game.

**KRIT** · 05-20-14, 02:45 AM

Tough loss on the Westbrook prop. Whenever I play props some bs always happens.

LBJ over props should be good tomorrow. He won't play the passive game like he does at home when he knows the Heat will win. He will be aggressive from the start. I'd be surprised if he doesn't score at least 30 tomorrow.

**Seto** · 05-20-14, 10:03 AM

Heat-8 +210 (bet365) (risking 0.5x to win 1.05x)
Heat-10.5 +350 (paddy power) (risking 0.5x to win 1.75x)

I already have 5 units on -2 -108 posted earlier.

**Seto** · 05-20-14, 10:06 AM

I don't get the point about Bron having a good game? I mean he shot it well but 25 and 10 is nothing he can't improve on. The only 2 guys on Miami who had great games were Wade and Birdman imo.

They can't play much worse on defense and Indiana can't play much better on offense so I expect Indiana to score a lot less really. If Bosh and Chalmers can stop missing open shot after open shot it would help as well but the biggest adjustment has to be defensively in my mind. I think the under is a good play but I'm very reluctant on totals this year as you all probably know by now (I'm actually a perfect 2-0 on them this season lol). Maybe I shouldn't be, I liked the over in San Antonio yesterday too.

**unitedlad** · 05-20-14, 11:16 AM

I've 5u on Heat ML, but also liking the look of LeBron o28.5 points.

**Seto** · 05-20-14, 11:23 AM

Originally posted by unitedlad

I've 5u on Heat ML, but also liking the look of LeBron o28.5 points.

If he needs to score that much he will, I'm pretty sure of that. Now will the flow of the game require him to have a great performance offensively or just a good one? I'm not really sure yet. It looks good though, I'd have him around 32 if I had to say.

**KRIT** · 05-20-14, 01:20 PM

Originally posted by unitedlad

I've 5u on Heat ML, but also liking the look of LeBron o28.5 points.

Took Bron over 28.5 for a unit too. I'll take my chances with LeBron coming off a loss and a mediocre game. He usually bounces back big in these situations. Only way this doesn't hit is if Wade has a huge game and Bron takes the backseat to him, but when is the last time that happened?

**Pauulzcappin** · 05-20-14, 01:32 PM

Since we are talking about prop bets, I took Bosh over 13.5.

Pretty good spot for him to bounce back and hit the open shots he didn't last game.

**Seto** · 05-20-14, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by KRIT

Took Bron over 28.5 for a unit too. I'll take my chances with LeBron coming off a loss and a mediocre game. He usually bounces back big in these situations. Only way this doesn't hit is if Wade has a huge game and Bron takes the backseat to him, but when is the last time that happened?

Game 4 of the finals last year but Bron padded his stats late to get to 33 lol. He had 24 with like 2 mins to go. That was a similar situation though but the Spurs play LeBron better than anyone tbh. He should be the one to go off tonight if the Heat need someone to go off. The thing is I think they may win a 93-80 type of game so 27 from LeBron and 22 from Wade might be enough, you never know.

**Seto** · 05-20-14, 01:35 PM

Originally posted by Pauulzcappin

Since we are talking about prop bets, I took Bosh over 13.5.

Pretty good spot for him to bounce back and hit the open shots he didn't last game.

Seems like a decent line. Bosh was atrocious against Indiana last year though, but this year he has that added 3 point weapon (well he took some last year but he went from like 25% last year to 35% this year so it's night and day). I like him to get 16-17.

**Seto** · 05-20-14, 05:25 PM

LeBron James over 7.5 1st qtr pts -131 (5dimes) (risking 1.31x to win 1x)

got some at -125 and some at -135...

**Pauulzcappin** · 05-20-14, 05:26 PM

I'm a bit nervous that everyone on fukking SBR is on the heat and that's usually a massive burial.

Talk me into not hedging my bet seto.

**Seto** · 05-20-14, 05:36 PM

Originally posted by Pauulzcappin

I'm a bit nervous that everyone on fukking SBR is on the heat and that's usually a massive burial.

Talk me into not hedging my bet seto.

I just feel like at the end of the day we're taking the better team in a pivotal game off a loss. If it loses, so be it. The Heat have always come through for me in those situations.

If it's about bet size maybe consider partially hedging?

**t-wizzle** · 05-20-14, 05:39 PM

Originally posted by Seto

Game 4 of the finals last year but Bron padded his stats late to get to 33 lol. He had 24 with like 2 mins to go. That was a similar situation though but the Spurs play LeBron better than anyone tbh. He should be the one to go off tonight if the Heat need someone to go off. The thing is I think they may win a 93-80 type of game so 27 from LeBron and 22 from Wade might be enough, you never know.

Lol I remember that last year. Wade was easily the player of that game but Lebron ended up with maybe 1 or 2 more points so of course it looked like he played the better game.

Wade was all over the court that night and Miami needed it bad. I recall that being a monster play for us.

**Seto** · 05-20-14, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by t-wizzle

Lol I remember that last year. Wade was easily the player of that game but Lebron ended up with maybe 1 or 2 more points so of course it looked like he played the better game.

Wade was all over the court that night and Miami needed it bad. I recall that being a monster play for us.

Wade had 32 and LeBron padded his 24 up to 33. One of my friends had bet LeBron to be the top scorer in the game at -170 or some shit, lucky fukker lol. Wade was +500 or something, I felt so bad for anyone who'd bet that.

Yeah I mean I was huge on Heat series and let's face it had they lost that game they were probably done. We nailed that one thankfully

The best thing ever was the 2012 Finals though. Thinking back to that time it's such a shame I had a small bankroll for that series. Probably one of easiest series ever. I actually literally went all in - which isn't saying much as that was 500 bucks. Still the easiest grand I've ever made, with the Heat series 4-1 at +600 or something being the icing on the cake.

**Pauulzcappin** · 05-20-14, 06:01 PM

here we go. miami money.

**Seto** · 05-20-14, 06:03 PM

Originally posted by Pauulzcappin

here we go. miami money.

you think it closes at 2.5?

**Pauulzcappin** · 05-20-14, 06:09 PM

Originally posted by Seto

you think it closes at 2.5?

No. I'm hoping for 1.5 actually.

**Seto** · 05-20-14, 07:59 PM

Originally posted by Seto

LeBron James over 7.5 1st qtr pts -131 (5dimes) (risking 1.31x to win 1x)

got some at -125 and some at -135...

WTF is wrong with this bum? Seriously...

**Seto** · 05-20-14, 08:08 PM

Stupid bet. absolute fukking waste of a unit.

Hopefully Heat come through. Of course the under is gonna win easily. FML.

**Pauulzcappin** · 05-20-14, 08:23 PM

my bosh bet isn't gonna hit as well

f\*g isn't confident to shoot