Leans for Thursday 1/22/09 CK versus hockeytown11 Challenge

[Dexter]

jgill - i had my line set at 3.5, so i would kind of expect it to actually drop a little. cant see it going past 5.

if you buy points, following ck's *key number* theory, and buy it down to 4 or 3.5.

[cheesehead004]

$1000 Boston ML +170
$550 Wright St -5 1H
$550 x3 Secret plays that CK mentioned

Hopefully I can win 3 or 4 tonight.

[akharlip]

CK and the Mafia......................
does anyone think the Utah St line is fishy
against a much weaker San Jose St

its like -4.5

thoughts??????

[joanapoker]

while we all made money yesterday, that thread was once again a joke. it would really be nice if the moderators here recognized the trolls, and take action before a thread gets to 20 pages. this is totally not why i started posting here, and to come back to the thread after a few hrs, and have to sift thru 4 pages of garbage is a waste of time. lets stop acknowledging the trolls during game action at least and get back to talking sports with reasons why we make plays.

100% With you Dex!!

And imagine that you live in a time zone that is 5 hours ahead....it's a pain in the...to wake up and try to read all the garbage before you find something worth reading!

[flavo-ice]

not only is the line not double digits, but there also is a money line. not sure if it was just posted and you're unaware.

Hey Dex-W.Kentucky is -13 for the game. The -7 is for the 1h. But it does have a ML of -1000 on the game. I think CK was sneaking that one into the 1H no ML plays even though it has a ML on the game.

[Dexter]

what a game tonight in orlando. boston comes in off a win in miami where the starters did play until late in the 4th - while the magic are well rested and looking to avenge a loss at boston earlier in the year by 19. the magic are first home off a 4 game west coast trip, but you have to think they'll be amped for this one but could very well be rusty early (4 days off). boston is playing their 3rd in 4 nights. vs the new look celts, the magic are 3-1 ats at home the last 4 games. vegas is begging for boston money with this line at 5.

-magic (big)

added angle that i missed. the celtics are 3-7 ats on btb.

[Dexter]

Hey Dex-W.Kentucky is -13 for the game. The -7 is for the 1h. But it does have a ML of -1000 on the game. I think CK was sneaking that one into the 1H no ML plays even though it has a ML on the game.

they are -7 for the first half, but there also is a first half money line on the greek of -420. i thought ck was sneaking it in b/c the line was 7 . now there are 2 parameters being gone againist (if i'm understanding the system correctly)

[cocknocker]

lonesomeloser, I don't wager on games and sports that I don't understand or recognize, and no one else here is going to wager on cricket. Nor are we going to recognize your wins and losses in sports that we don't recognize. The competition has to do with basketball, and I'm sure that you know that fully well. This is a basketball forum that you have invaded, and you are criticizing my basketball work so now you show me that you are better than me a basketball playing against the number and not taking high moneylines just to get a win. This is the last time that i will speak to you until you come back to our thread and let us know that you have a paypal account set up.

Obviously I am sure that you can tell that your posts have been erased by the mods already. You won't be around that much longer, so hurry up and put that money in the paypal account so that we can scrap. If you get kicked off the thread, then you forfeit your part of the purse. So try to keep it clean, but by all means put your money in the account, and nothing less than a dime ($1000.00) Stop trying to avoid the challenge. I called you out already. Don't talk to me or about me until you have your money up

[cocknocker]

Yes Dexter,

You are correct, I that is my own personal play, that I believe will be a winner as well, the otheres fit the creterion as "CK Secret" plays though. To clarify, I am taking W. Kentucky in the first half as a play of mine, not a secret play. Gabeesh? I think that they will decimate the Rajin' Cajuns!

[jgbgsox]

right now im using sports.com and they dont offer the secret plays so i opened and account on the greek when i went to make my deposit using my credit card it said even though u have sufficent funds in your account your card wont let you use it for gaming. why does sports.com accept it but not the greek this really sux.i dont think they do western union, can someone tell me what method they use to deposit into the greek. Thanks

[schaapattack]

Money Gram is the best way to deposit with the greek. Plus you get a 21% "new player" sign up bonus if you use money gram. I love the site. Also available for Quarter wagering

[johnnyP]

VS

Boston vs Orlando should be a great game tonight. Boston has its big 3 and Orlando has Superman and super hot shooter Jameer Nelson. Orlando is coming on strong and playing phenomenal ball this season. The Celts are the champs and have been dominant excluding their slump of 7 games. When you get into the stats you will find that Orlando is actually better on paper. And most of the trends are pointing towards Orlando. Here are a few of them:

Last meeting between Boston & Orlando
12/01/2008
BOS 107 ORL 88
Line was Boston -8½ (Covered +19)
The over under line was 190 – (OVER@195)

Boston at Orlando
Last 5 games at Orlando between Boston & Orlando
BOSTON IS 0-5 SU AND 1-4 ATS IN THESE GAMES

Last 10 Games between Boston & Orlando including both home and away
BOSTON IS 4-6 SU AND 5-5 ATS IN THESE GAMES.

Boston Trends
In last 10 games listed as a underdog of 4 points or less
BOSTON IS 5-5 SU AND 7-3 ATS IN THESE GAMES.

In the backend of back to back games
BOSTON IS 7-3 SU AND 3-7 ATS IN THESE GAMES.

One of the keys to Orlando’s success lately has been their 3-point shooting. They are shooting lights out from behind the 3-point line and setting records as well.

Orlando averages 26.05 three-point shots per game. 2nd in the league
Orlando makes 10.49 three-point shots per game 1st in the league
Orlando shoots 3 pointers at 40.26% 1st in the league

How is Boston’s defense against three-point shooting?

Teams average 17.47 three-point attempts per game against Celts
Boston gives up an average of 5.98 made three pointers per game 9th in the league
Teams shoot 34.22% on 3 pointers vs the Celts 7th in the league

Can Boston’s defense handle the 3-point shooting of Orlando? This is the key to tonight’s game in my opinion and I will need some time to dig a little deeper.

I will be back later with further research.

[cocknocker]

The only thing that bothers me about the Temple game is the fact that they had 4 consecutive road games coming into this one, blowing everbody out until they met UMASS and then lost by 4. I am wondering aloud if they were just showing signs of fatigue in that game, or was it just one of those types of games where they underperformed. For their part Saint Louis is horrid on the road no matter how you slice and dice it. I expect this line to fall a bit, but that the Owls will get it done anyway.

[flavo-ice]

Here is a nugget about the lakers/wiz matchup I read in another thread. The Lakers are 5-12 ATS this year when favored by at least 11 points; Washington is 5-1 ATS when getting at least 11 points.

Worth watching the lakers line action tonight to see if it gets inflated when the early losers are looking to chase on the late game. I would probably already be on the wiz if the lakeshow had covered last night, but since the clips covered I hesitate.

No doubt kobe and his crew will sleep walk through another tonite most likely.

[akharlip]

someone tell me why utah st is low

anyone??????

really wanna take the pick but cannot afford to get burned lol

[cocknocker]

akharlip,

Go to winningedge.com and check out the history of this game before you lay it, especially in the situation that we're in playing it at San Jose State.

[Marts727]

My picks for the night

I am relying on m instincts on this. Boston has been hot for the past few games and been blowing out teams on the 1st half, They have a plus on this and I am sticking to them to get the job done.

1st half BOS+2.5(locked)

Second pick is Washington 1st half cause the past 10 games of washington they have been good in the 1st half and sadly letting it down on the 2nd half.

1st half Was+8(locked)

What do you think of my picks CK and CK Mafia? BOL to ALL!!!

[akharlip]

thanks CK

[lonesomeloser]

lonesomeloser, I don't wager on games and sports that I don't understand or ecognize, and no one else here is going to wager on cricket. Nor are we going to recognize your wins and losses in sports that we don't recognize. The competition has to do with basketball. And I'm sure that you know that fully well. You stop playing around and goget your paypal account set up.

Obviously I am sure that you can tell that your posts have been erased by the mods already. You won't be around that much longer,so hurry up and put that money in the paypal account so that we can scrap. If you get kicked off the thread, then you forfeit yourpart of the purse. So try to keep it clean, but by all means put your money in the account, and nothing less than a dime. Stop trying to avoid the challenge.

Cmon CK I thought you bet on anything! Like you say, put your balls on the line, man up and you can even watch the game on justintv. I put the bet up, which you stated I wouldn't, so take it or fade it. You called me out but now you are playing shrinking turtle.

I bet on cricket, nrl, uk super league, afl, tennis, a-league, uk football, champions league, ncaa basketball, college football, nhl and nfl. Be a pioneer CK, do not be afraid to adapt, grow and change.

You want me to put my bets on the line but you do not like the diversification of them.

You only like playing by your rules hey?

Man up and take it or fade it for a dime. You are being called out.

[SamsNCharge99]

i smell a trap in NCAA tonight.

wis. milwaukee only 2.5 over valpo????????

[flavo-ice]

someone tell me why utah st is low

anyone??????

really wanna take the pick but cannot afford to get burned lol

I am by no means an expert on utah st. hoops, but 1 possible theory could be they are looking ahead to their matchup @ Hawaii on Saturday, where they have lost their last 3 trips to the island.(I don't know about you, but weatherwise, if I was in Utah right now I would be chomping at the bit to leave ASAP for the hawaii weather).

Also SJS apparently has a solid D, only allowing opponents to shoot 41%. SJS also rebounds well which matches up with one of Utah St's biggest strengths.

Also US is undefeated in league play, so every game they win makes the next one that much harder, as the target on their back gets bigger and bigger.

SJS likely will also have their team leading scorer back for this game after missing the last 3 with a sprained knee.(Adrian Oliver, G, 16.7 ppg).

[johnnyP]

FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!! lonesomeloser will you quit it and get a life man. Your being ridiculous and pissing everyone off now!

[vassman86]

lonesomeloser, you're embarassing yourself. Stick to basketball.

[cocknocker]

Cmon CK I thought you bet on anything! Like you say, put your balls on the line, man up and you can even watch the game on justintv. I put the bet up, which you stated I wouldn't, so take it or fade it. You called me out but now you are playing shrinking turtle.

I bet on cricket, nrl, uk super league, afl, tennis, a-league, uk football, champions league, ncaa basketball, college football, nhl and nfl. Be a pioneer CK, do not be afraid to adapt, grow and change.

You want me to put my bets on the line but you do not like the diversification of them.

You only like playing by your rules hey?

Man up and take it or fade it for a dime. You are being called out.

You're right. I only play by my rules and obviously, you aren't intersted in having a basketball competition. What's baffling to me is that if you have knowledge of these sports, why aren't you here to educate instead of this useless bashing. You want me to wager on a sport that I have never seen or attended a day in my life. This is an NBA thread. You did not come here and criticize my cricket plays, lol! We cap basketball games only here on the NBA thread. Look man, the challenge stands and you are avoiding it. Stop being so obvious. I can't come back to the thread and tell you I won a bet on a backyard brawl, so you don't come back on the thread and tell me you won a cricket match, which is not something I'm interested in. You can post those kinds of picks on your own tread that you make up. Post only basketball picks in here like all of the rest of the NBA thread. I swear you are the best. And you are obviously attempting to get me thrown off the thread. I have nothing else to say to you until you put your money in the paypal account and announce that you are ready for an NBA/NCAA Basketball challenge.

[Mr Handicapable]

First of all...I'm not shilling for anyone...just trying to help w/CBB as CK and the crew help me w/NBA...Celtics wire to wire (the best kind)! I only really watch the Pacers and their opponent in the NBA...only have so much time! Lets do another winner tonite!

Providence -1.5 @ Seton Hall

Prov starts 4 seniors and they'll be way too much for SH tonite! SH has dropped 7 of 8 SU including losing at home to IUPUI! Lets look at Prov's last 3 road games! Prov beat Cincy by 8 on the road....respectable losses to GTown & BC (7 and 5 pts). Tonight they run-n-gun past a team they can handle!

This game reminds me alot of BC @ Georgia Tech...an earlier winner from this week but this one will be easier!

[JGILL50]

here i started it for u lonesome post em up

http://forum.sbrforum.com/nba-basketball-handicapping/137938-lonesomelosers-free-cricket-winners-thread.html

[Dexter]

-the last 4 games in orlando have all been won su by the magic by margins of 3,2,2, and 8. they covered 3 of those 4, so a close game should be in order again tonight. i'm banking on tired legs in the 2nd half for boston, and a late surge from orlando for a 10 point win.

[LUNT101]

CK, thegreek has Tennessee Martin and Cal at -3500 for the ML. Are these still secret plays?

[chipper13101]

here i started it for u lonesome post em up
http://forum.sbrforum.com/nba-basket...rs-thread.html

good one!

[cocknocker]

Now although I am not playing this game, I have been asked by no less than 12 people overnight about my thoughts on this game...

My thoughts on the Celtics/Magic... Boston has a bad record in back end games, and also in Orlando. Orlando is rested, and Boston comes in from Miami, which is a short plane ride from Orlando. With all that has happened in the past week and a half, the Green Machine seem to have righted the ship and are playing the type of basketball that was indicative of their championship season last year. The Magic are playing great basketball all year this year, and are burining up the nets from three point land. They also have tremendous height on their squad save the diminutive Jameer Nelson, who is really coming into his own this year.

Totals players can have a whack at the total which is set for 192.5. The average over/under for the games in Orlando have averaged 191, and have had actual combined game scores of 179. The under is 4-1 in these games in Orlando. With the game having a playoff atmosphere, there will be a premium put upon possessions in this game, and i look for very few fast breaks off of turnovers. Orlando only gives up 13.7 turnovers per game to Boston's 15.6. But when the teams are walking the ball up the floor, I look for this game to stay under the number in spite of Orlando's league leading 116 per game. Doc Rivers knows this and will try to limit the possessions and pound the ball inside to Garnett who has had dome good games against Howard. Not having Perkins available for this game gives the strength advantage to Howard tonight. With im in the lineup, Boston is a much more physical team.

As far as a side is concerned, I think that this one will go down to the wire. Because the Magic have beaten the Celtics 5 straight times at home the advantage goes to the Celtics there. Awfully hard to beat a team with a record above .700 6 consecutive times anywhere. Then there's the referees, which always seems to work out for Boston's favor. It woldn't matter if the refs were on Orlando's side because they are actually at their worst when they are in the penalty. Hopefully Howard has been working on his free throws, as the Celtics will put him on the line a lot. Boston makes 76.9% from the charity stripe, and Orlando makes 71.9 %free throws per game, the worst in the league.


My advice is to tease the Celtics and the under

Boston+8.5/Under 196.5

Thou shalt not wager against the Celtics and their referees in a big game.

[Rio DiNero]

CK Secret 1st half plays:

Tennessee Martin-10
Gonzaga-14.5
Cal-10

Although W.Kentucky-7 doesn't fit the criteria it is still a good first half play, and worth looking into... Usually the line should be over 11, but 10 is in the same general area, so I'll roll with em due to the fact that they more than likely will be 11 by 10:00am...

I am sure these lines will go up by 10:00am so if you are interested in them better get em early

CK, this is my first post in your thread. I have been following your thread for a few weeks, very good info, it is hard now a days to have so many people on the same page trying to help each other make money and beat the books. Anyways, I have been playing your SECRET PLAYS for about three weeks, very nice angle you discovered. I have been using Pinnacle to check the first half moneylines, yesterday in addition to Old Dom.,Memphis,and Davidson they had no moneyline on Housten(winner) and N.C.(loser), some other books had 1rst half moneylines on these, but I respect Pinny's line over anyone's. Now, I have added a modifacation that has been very sucessful so far, if team failscover 1rst half(secret play team)then I bet them double in the 2nd half, I have only lost one game this way so far! Anyways good luck to all and if I could contibute you will here from me again. Keep up the good work!

[SamsNCharge99]

Orlando Teaser to -1 w/ George Town -1

[cocknocker]

Lunt101,

The secret plays are for the 1st halves only, not the entire game. Sometimes teams lose interest when they get up by a lot of points and give up backdoor covers.

Looks like JGILL50 gave our guest an appropriate home now. Now that was genius!

[cocknocker]

Thank you Rio DiNero,

Come by and hang out with us sometimes. I have a feeling that we can be quite useful toone another. A good tip about the Secret Play, is that it also works lights out in college football 1st halves as well.

[Dana4U]

1st Half Betting

Does this theory work for pro basketball as well or only college?

yeah guys, you can just log into the greek for free and look up the games that have no moneyline 1st half and a spread of 10 or more..

http://www.thegreek.com/sports/home.asp