SONOMA--5mike5

5mike5 · 06-20-12, 02:37 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Robby Gordan v Said is probably the best quali matchup. If we can work out which one has the least crappy car before practice starts...

every1 are complete toss ups...

dont see any advantage to even 1

Vegas39 · 06-20-12, 02:38 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

theres a good reason for the though

newman usually Q-better than him every race at sonoma

Yes am. Newman fan but not laying -140

Vegas39 · 06-20-12, 02:39 PM

Originally posted by Optional

Robby Gordan v Said is probably the best quali matchup. If we can work out which one has the least crappy car before practice starts...

Opti that was my thinking. I know Robby is in a Doge,is he using Penske engine?

5mike5 · 06-20-12, 02:40 PM

Originally posted by Vegas39

Yes am. Newman fan but not laying -140

iw wouldnt mind laying juiced if i thought it was a huge advantage, but its juts always close no matter what...even though newman usually wins it, they are usually in same area

so i would take the +price on jimmy but im just not playing anything on Q

5mike5 · 06-20-12, 02:41 PM

i was looking 4ward to playing 1 this week, but just nothing i like enough to bet big

shaunovery · 06-20-12, 02:56 PM

Qualifying looks pretty much a coin flip this week

5mike5 · 06-20-12, 02:59 PM

Originally posted by shaunovery

Qualifying looks pretty much a coin flip this week

i agree

shaunovery · 06-20-12, 03:01 PM

May for a interest parlay

Jimmy to bt Newman
Ambrose to bt Kahne

Pays nearly 5-2

shaunovery · 06-20-12, 03:05 PM

Strange looking market thegreek have for nationwide race

Busch 9-4
Fellows 7-2
J vilnerve 9-2
Papis 7-1
Hornish jr 8-1

5mike5 · 06-20-12, 03:21 PM

look spot on to me for top 3 at least

*last year was crazy as prople were running out of gas under caution at the end of the race or wrecked out late...results are VERY misleading

5mike5 · 06-20-12, 03:36 PM

early race H2H arent that appealing either...

probably wait til they post up 10x more on raceday for me

Optional · 06-20-12, 03:54 PM

I don't think Kurt should be fave without practice.

Fellows is always a chance but Ville consistently drives the car too hard in these NW races and I wouldn't bet on him.

Leaving McDowell and Piquet the picks for me. If they are +1200 and +2000 or better (like Greek) I'll be on them like shit on a blanket!

Optional · 06-20-12, 03:59 PM

Ambrose is still +500 at Bookmaker if anyone has cash there.

Just took him for 5 units. Thinking I should double that eh? At those odds?

yisman · 06-20-12, 04:00 PM

I only have freeplays at Bookmaker. I don't think they allow freeplays on MLs.

Let's see what DSI has.

OK no dice at BKR, but DSI mostly mirrors their lines.

Straight Wager

120419559

TNTODDS TO WIN NASCAR TOYOTA/SAVE MART 350
[18101] MARCOS AMBROSE

+500

$20.00

$100.00

Compare to Heritage, which has:

9501	Marcos Ambrose	+250
9502	Tony Stewart	+600
9503	Jeff Gordon	+650

DSI beating Heritage at NASCAR. Now there's something you don't often see.

Optional · 06-20-12, 04:05 PM

Originally posted by yisman

I only have freeplays at Bookmaker. I don't think they allow freeplays on MLs.

What on earth do they allow freeplay use on? I have seen the tick box available maybe half a dozen times in the last 100 bets, and never when i wanted to use FP.

Ended up grabbing $150 worth.

yisman · 06-20-12, 04:07 PM

Originally posted by Optional

What on earth do they allow freeplay use on? I have seen the tick box available maybe half a dozen times in the last 100 bets, and never when i wanted to use FP.

Ended up grabbing $150 worth.

Sides/totals on major American sports only, I think.

They do allow them for parlays so rather than underdog MLs, you just throw together some parlays (use lines that won't push).

bovada has no NASCAR lines up, btw. Just thought I'd point that out.

Optional · 06-20-12, 04:21 PM

Thanks. But they must not allow them for all parlays, as I play plenty of those for tennis. (unless i am so vague I keep missing it)

yisman · 06-20-12, 04:27 PM

Tennis is not a major American sport.

I assume you'd have the same problem with soccer, rugby, AFL, etc.

5mike5 · 06-20-12, 04:32 PM

vill. should have won race last year right?

ill take fellows and maybe ville.....

def. not piquet, hes just Optis fav. longshot in trucks, and an aussie?

Optional · 06-20-12, 04:33 PM

Originally posted by yisman

Tennis is not a major American sport.

I assume you'd have the same problem with soccer, rugby, AFL, etc.

OIC! (said the blind man)

Next time you see a good spot to use a BM freeplay, please let me know. I know shit all about US sport apart from maybe hockey.

Optional · 06-20-12, 04:36 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

vill. should have won race last year right?

Could have is probably a better description. From memory team cocked up a pit stop or got him out of sequence and he took out half the field trying to make it up. Or was that the year before... or both of them... LOL

He seems to drive more desperately each time he gets in a NW car. He could win but I won't be betting on him no matter how well he practices.

5mike5 · 06-20-12, 04:38 PM

hell im not sure, but if edwards want racing in supreme equipment, fellows would have won last 2 events runner up in both i think....i dont keep nationwdie notesbooks on each driver and each track like i do cup, thats just from memory so could be wrong

he will be my only early pick i think

as usual im not betting more than 2 for nationwide and 1 parlay...especially nothing more at road america

Optional · 06-20-12, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by 5mike5

hell im not sure, but if edwards want racing in supreme equipment, fellows would have won last 2 events runner up in both

he will be my only early pick i think

as usual im not betting more than 2 for nationwide and 1 parlay...especially nothing more at road america

Agree fully Mike. Fellows should be the clear fave I think. Sadler didn't stink last year too.

Think I'll do a Mike and rewatch the last race, maybe even 2 of them. I did like both of them a lot.

Think I pretty much decided last year that i was going to bet McDowell here this year too, again from memory.

Wish I kept more notes.

5mike5 · 06-20-12, 04:46 PM

yeah i just dont have time to watch recent nationwides races and keep notebooks on every driver and track like i do CUP

takes up a ton of my time every week just for cup...

if u watch PM me the details on a any1 besides fellows who im already taking no matter what

thanks!

yisman · 06-20-12, 04:49 PM

Originally posted by Optional

OIC! (said the blind man)

Next time you see a good spot to use a BM freeplay, please let me know. I know shit all about US sport apart from maybe hockey.

Will do. I've had a freeplay sitting in my account for months and just had another added. Looking for a decent spot.

MatI · 06-20-12, 05:32 PM

Villeneuve was fastest on track last couple years from memory. I am def taking him.

His problem though is that he very very strong under braking, that is where he makes most of his time up, but the Nationwide cars run out of brakes very quickly when you do that. This puts him under pressure late in the race when there are late yellows, otherwise he would be 20 seconds up the road.

Someone like Fellow's will drive at 80pc and save the equipment until the later stages of the race, which has worked well lately.

5mike5 · 06-20-12, 05:35 PM

yeah fellows over vill definatley i agree

felloes best here by far of those guys..

.i only car about end of the races and fellows has been top 2 when it counts

MatI · 06-20-12, 05:39 PM

I wouldnt just take fellow's, Villeneuve's fav track is Road America, and one of his most successful. I'd use him as atleast a cover.

Btw, Opti, Villeneuve also racing in V8 Townsville race next month.

5mike5 · 06-20-12, 05:44 PM

yeah i never use covers in nationwide..only 2 bets on winners every race and both for nice profit....

if i have them noth it will be my only bets to win the race

Optional · 06-20-12, 05:47 PM

Originally posted by MatI

I wouldnt just take fellow's, Villeneuve's fav track is Road America, and one of his most successful. I'd use him as atleast a cover.

Btw, Opti, Villeneuve also racing in V8 Townsville race next month.

I didn't know it was his fave track or his most successful!

I like him, but he seems to have less patience and self control each race the last 3 years.

5mike5 · 06-20-12, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by Optional

I didn't know it was his fave track or his most successful!

I like him, but he seems to have less patience and self control each race the last 3 years.

5mike5 · 06-20-12, 05:51 PM

if i had to take 1 its definatley ron fellows

just wait and see what the odds have to say

Optional · 06-20-12, 05:58 PM

5mike5 · 06-20-12, 06:01 PM

thanks Opti...controversial ending and all to this race if i remember correctly

i liked this race

cnt wait to choose a H2H parlay...those will be xtra fun this week in nationwide

Optional · 06-20-12, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by Optional

From 40mins to 47 mins is a good example of why I like McDowell so much.

Chasing down Villeneuve in the lead, consistently out braking the "braking master" and even when it was obvious McDowell was faster and with 3/4 of the race to go, Ville just can't make the smart decsion and let him go. Ends up letting the chasers catch them, and then put himself off and losing 3 spots instead of one.