Horse Racing questions and answers

[JBEX]

absolutely..goes back to the 80's



bit of a step-up in class but she's a gamer and will probably offer value in here..like most and based on her last 3 turf sprints he seems like a battler when challenged

should be noted girl running against the boys

[JBEX]

when you think about it she runs on both surfaces ,relatively early in the meet and a statebred ..nice show of confidence running her in an open stakes vs the boys

[JBEX]

thanks str..here's today's army mule's

baq 3 @ 2:05
#6 army proud (3-1)


mth 8 @ 4:20
#7 molly's a bullet (4-1)


mth 9
#1 bel pensiero (12-1)


off turf .. scratched


monmouth are anthony margotta trained full siblings and in consecutive races..seen both before



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just moving forward

[JBEX]

bel pensiero scratched

[JBEX]

army mule.. monday




thistledown 7 @ 3:50
#2 sgt york (9-5)

finger lakes 8 @ 4:23
#2 trojan mule (7-2)

prarie meadows 14 @ 9:31
#3 come on mulitch (8-1)

[str]

Hey EZ,

I remember you about asking "if blinkers off was not so popular back in the day"? Some trainers did but Dickie never did.
I think I said that I never took them off, just adjusted the cups as far as a 1 inch cup, so basically nothing. Remember I told you that we were taught all that ?

Here is Ricky Dutrow talking about adding blinkers to MacAfee last race and not getting the desired effect.

Quote: Dutrow had equipped McAfee with blinkers for the Peter Pan, and while he plans to keep them on for the Ohio Derby, Dutrow said he will cut them back a little bit.

“That’s what Johnny [Velazquez] said to do,” Dutrow said. “He was a little bit aggressive so we’ll cut them back to where he can settle better.”

Watch for an improved effort this time.

[str]

thanks str..here's today's army mule's

baq 3 @ 2:05
#6 army proud (3-1)


mth 8 @ 4:20
#7 molly's a bullet (4-1)


mth 9
#1 bel pensiero (12-1)



monmouth are anthony margotta trained full siblings and in consecutive races..seen both before



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Army Proud 2nd as the third choice in the field. Favorite won the race.




Molly's Bullet wins and pays 9.80 4.80 3.40

A 2.00 Exacta with the co favorite 2nd paid 43.20.

Horse in the 9th was scratched.....


I really hope some of you are taking advantage of this.

That payout is crazy. This is as close to having an edge as a player can ask for.

I have so many questions in here about understanding horses for a profit or an edge.

Those reading this are witnessing it daily.

I really hope this helps.

[str]

army mule.. monday




thistledown 7 @ 3:50
#2 sgt york (9-5)

finger lakes 8 @ 4:23
#2 trojan mule (7-2)

prarie meadows 14 @ 9:31
#3 come on mulitch (8-1)

They are all worth a long hard look.

[str]

army mule.. monday




thistledown 7 @ 3:50
#2 sgt york (9-5)

finger lakes 8 @ 4:23
#2 trojan mule (7-2)

prarie meadows 14 @ 9:31
#3 come on mulitch (8-1)

Sgt. York: 2nd as the seconmd choice. 3-5 shot won it. Solid effort.

Trojan Mule: Finished 6th as the 5th favorite. Beaten 2 lengths for 3rd.
Had the 1 post, got outside , was 3,4,5 wide around the far turn. If this horse can get a little class relief, play it next out. Just needs a little less group of maidens to win.

Come On Mulitch : 9;30 tonight. Ill look tomorrow.

[JBEX]

Sgt. York: 2nd as the seconmd choice. 3-5 shot won it. Solid effort.

Trojan Mule: Finished 6th as the 5th favorite. Beaten 2 lengths for 3rd.
Had the 1 post, got outside , was 3,4,5 wide around the far turn. If this horse can get a little class relief, play it next out. Just needs a little less group of maidens to win.

Come On Mulitch : 9;30 tonight. Ill look tomorrow.

3rd race in 26 days ..just missed by a nose in start 2 vs mcl $10k and finished 2nd in debut also at that same level..maybe too much too soon especially up in class to a msw today .. can understand not wanting to risk him though after his first two starts .. i would think there's a good chance they'll drop him back into a mcl next out

[JBEX]

Sgt. York: 2nd as the seconmd choice. 3-5 shot won it. Solid effort.

Trojan Mule: Finished 6th as the 5th favorite. Beaten 2 lengths for 3rd.
Had the 1 post, got outside , was 3,4,5 wide around the far turn. If this horse can get a little class relief, play it next out. Just needs a little less group of maidens to win.

Come On Mulitch : 9;30 tonight. Ill look tomorrow.

finished out of the money stalking the horse written about below




trainer and jockey white hot individually and hooking up as a tandem at the meet ..4-1 ml , goes off 10-1 (not a good sign considering connections) wires them and wins by a bunch .. not totally crazy to think he might have been the lone speed and ultimately that's what got it done for him

[JBEX]

army mule .. tuesday

horseshoe 4 @ 3:43
#1 master mule (5-1)



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[str]

finished out of the money stalking the horse written about below




trainer and jockey white hot individually and hooking up as a tandem at the meet ..4-1 ml , goes off 10-1 (not a good sign considering connections) wires them and wins by a bunch .. not totally crazy to think he might have been the lone speed and ultimately that's what got it done for him

So here is the thing about this . I realize that "dead on the board" can tell a story sometimes. But... Do not think for a minute that the "Barn" doesn't like the horse this time. That is complete nonsense. Who in that barn is betting more than 20 bucks ? Seriously. The answer is nobody. And thinking that the "barn" has inside information is another fairy tail that fans thinks exists. It's all B.S. folks.

How on earth does a white hot trainer and jockey team up on solo speed and not get bet on?? That's insanity.

I only point this stuff out to try and help with a bettors mindset. This makes no sense whatsoever.

[str]

3rd race in 26 days ..just missed by a nose in start 2 vs mcl $10k and finished 2nd in debut also at that same level..maybe too much too soon especially up in class to a msw today .. can understand not wanting to risk him though after his first two starts .. i would think there's a good chance they'll drop him back into a mcl next out

Totally agree. Where this horse is entered next will tell the story. They played their hand though by raising the horse up so high. Maybe nowhere in between md. 10k and MSW.? I don't know.

I should probably watch that race and see if once the horse was not going to be able to keep up, if the rider took a hold of him to get beat far enough to be able to justify running him back at the previous level.
I do understand that if the horse could not finish better than 4th. Although, in todays world, 4th still matters in the wagering sometimes. Yet another reason beyond the ridiculous high takeout to not play supers. IMO of course.

[JBEX]

So here is the thing about this . I realize that "dead on the board" can tell a story sometimes. But... Do not think for a minute that the "Barn" doesn't like the horse this time. That is complete nonsense. Who in that barn is betting more than 20 bucks ? Seriously. The answer is nobody. And thinking that the "barn" has inside information is another fairy tail that fans thinks exists. It's all B.S. folks.

How on earth does a white hot trainer and jockey team up on solo speed and not get bet on?? That's insanity.

I only point this stuff out to try and help with a bettors mindset. This makes no sense whatsoever.

have questioned the validity of this approach also over the years and land somewhere in the middle on it .. obviously you would know better ,pun intended lol, on the mechanics of this than me .. I think with me also it's the thought of more sophisticated handicapping tools and simulcasting that might bring some more smart capping money into it also .. glad to know your opinion on it though as it's an absolutely crucial perspective to have right when you're betting .. do you feel differently about it with first time starters str ?

an aside ; part of the reaon imo you got that price on him with that trainer is he had no dirt route form and others did ..as I stated earlier while,to me anyway, it was possible he might be out there by himself it but it wasn't something that was glaring in his pp's ..feel the combo of both contributed to the high odds on him

[str]

army mule .. tuesday

horseshoe 4 @ 3:43
#1 master mule (5-1)



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This race is kind of neat, in that if you want to know if the 1 horse is good enough, the trainer of the 2 horse knows without question.
A 3 year old against olders which often time's might favor the 3 yr. old as to quality of horse but in here, there were some promising 3 yr. olds that had to be stopped it looks like and anything could happen without me having a better understanding of the true quality of these different tracks.

All that said, often times playing an AM somewhat blindly, which I am at these less popular or known by me, tracks, I would watch and learn in here. But don't put anything past an Army Mule.

More later. Got a meeting now.

[JBEX]

This race is kind of neat, in that if you want to know if the 1 horse is good enough, the trainer of the 2 horse knows without question.
A 3 year old against olders which often time's might favor the 3 yr. old as to quality of horse but in here, there were some promising 3 yr. olds that had to be stopped it looks like and anything could happen without me having a better understanding of the true quality of these different tracks.

All that said, often times playing an AM somewhat blindly, which I am at these less popular or known by me, tracks, I would watch and learn in here. But don't put anything past an Army Mule.

More later. Got a meeting now.

my biggest concern is the 7 being speed of the speed and has back numbers ..I like that MM is the lone 3yo at a 2nd level track mid-year in an allowance race and obviously the talent is there off his last race..2nd in the slop debut, then patch adams and at churchill is no easy task and his chances were reflected with the odds ..expensive horse and gets the rail again ..like him ..wouldn't frown on a small hedge (33% of the 1) on the 7

[str]

my biggest concern is the 7 being speed of the speed and has back numbers ..I like that MM is the lone 3yo at a 2nd level track mid-year in an allowance race and obviously the talent is there off his last race..2nd in the slop debut, then patch adams and at churchill is no easy task and his chances were reflected with the odds ..expensive horse and gets the rail again ..like him ..wouldn't frown on a small hedge (33% of the 1) on the 7

Sounds about right too me.
Seems like a pretty solid group for that track.

[JBEX]

my biggest concern is the 7 being speed of the speed and has back numbers ..I like that MM is the lone 3yo at a 2nd level track mid-year in an allowance race and obviously the talent is there off his last race..2nd in the slop debut, then patch adams and at churchill is no easy task and his chances were reflected with the odds ..expensive horse and gets the rail again ..like him ..wouldn't frown on a small hedge (33% of the 1) on the 7

Sounds about right too me.
Seems like a pretty solid group for that track.

1-9 MM and 15-1 (7)with 8 mtp lol