73 shots in this game and only 4 goals. Amazing how the score isn't 6-6 or something. Osgood and Khabibulin are good but not that good.
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TodaysAction
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08-01-08
12762
#1894
Originally posted by ram1502
73 shots in this game and only 4 goals. Amazing how the score isn't 6-6 or something. Osgood and Khabibulin are good but not that good.
It's called the playoffs my man. This is where everyone increases their effort or they ride the pine. OZZY is fine while the Blackhawks netminder has been playing with purpose tonight. Time for Frazen to get the winning goal.
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TodaysAction
Restricted User
08-01-08
12762
#1895
Originally posted by TodaysAction
RED WINGS, win 10.00 units
Back-to-back-to-back 10+ unit winning wagers.
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ram1502
SBR Wise Guy
12-26-08
822
#1896
Originally posted by TodaysAction
Back-to-back 10+ unit winning wagers.
Well done my man.
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TodaysAction
Restricted User
08-01-08
12762
#1897
Originally posted by ram1502
Well done my man.
Thank you.
DET in game 1.
PIT in game 1.
And tonight DET in game 2
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TodaysAction
Restricted User
08-01-08
12762
#1898
PIT, to score first, win 2.00 units
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stenb
SBR High Roller
03-03-09
104
#1899
Quickest 2 units I ever made ...
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JustFlipACoin
SBR Hustler
05-21-09
92
#1900
So what do you guys like tonight? I'm thinking the over should hit. There were a ton of shots and great chances last game. I think more shots get through tonight. over for me.
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TodaysAction
Restricted User
08-01-08
12762
#1901
Originally posted by stenb
Quickest 2 units I ever made ...
Glad you cashed from it.
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TodaysAction
Restricted User
08-01-08
12762
#1902
Originally posted by JustFlipACoin
So what do you guys like tonight? I'm thinking the over should hit. There were a ton of shots and great chances last game. I think more shots get through tonight. over for me.
Even though it's a hockey playoff game, I still list `em in my baseball thread. FYI, like the over as well. Late, sorry.
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TodaysAction
Restricted User
08-01-08
12762
#1903
2P, DET & CHI, over 1', win 1.00 unit
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ram1502
SBR Wise Guy
12-26-08
822
#1904
Another huge hit for the hockey game huh TA? I had the over for a large play, the Wings ML for a medium play, and the Wings PL @ +300 for a small play. Cashed all 3. I love hockey.
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BmoreBucco
SBR Sharp
12-10-08
278
#1905
OK, so I bartend in B-more and a customer who I took as pretty astute threw out a stat that NHL teams up 3-0 have an 80-something % of sweeping (it was the night the Caps went up 2-0 on the Pens). I tried googling it to verify to no avail. Anyone know where to look a stat like that up? As of now, the Pens are -130 on the road for Game 4. I think I'll go heavy on that if I verified an 80% trend of that magnitude. Any input or thoughts will be much appreciated.
Happy Memorial Day peeps...
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TodaysAction
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08-01-08
12762
#1906
Originally posted by ram1502
Another huge hit for the hockey game huh TA? I had the over for a large play, the Wings ML for a medium play, and the Wings PL @ +300 for a small play. Cashed all 3. I love hockey.
Don't know if you'd call making 27 units from the game huge, but I'm fine making that kind of scratch. Glad you cashed all three. Hockey been very very nice to me.
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TodaysAction
Restricted User
08-01-08
12762
#1907
Originally posted by BmoreBucco
OK, so I bartend in B-more and a customer who I took as pretty astute threw out a stat that NHL teams up 3-0 have an 80-something % of sweeping (it was the night the Caps went up 2-0 on the Pens). I tried googling it to verify to no avail. Anyone know where to look a stat like that up? As of now, the Pens are -130 on the road for Game 4. I think I'll go heavy on that if I verified an 80% trend of that magnitude. Any input or thoughts will be much appreciated.
Happy Memorial Day peeps...
Happy Memorial Day to you as well. While the past is the past, and we can learn a pattern from it, each game there is only a 50% chance of being correct. Were it me, I would not go heavy or even medium. I am not greedy and I'm content making a little at a time. CAR could come out and play the game of their collective lives and might as nobody want to be embarrassed let alone in the Conference Finals. Might want to look at the 1P lines too. As of right now, have not put anything on the game (but will shortly). Thanks for contributing to the thread in a positive manner.
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JustFlipACoin
SBR Hustler
05-21-09
92
#1908
tough one tonight in my eyes. But I think i'll put a small bet on Car, and Car under. I just don't see them gettting swept, and I have Pitt to win the series to back me up.
GL.
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yisman
SBR Aristocracy
09-01-08
75682
#1909
each game there is only a 50% chance of being correct.
That is not true, TA.
As for the trend, I don't know if it's accurate. If that's true, I would definitely weight it when handicapping the game.
[quote=jjgold;5683305]I win again like usual
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[quote=Whippit;7921056]miami won't lose a single eastern conference game through end of season[/quote]
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TodaysAction
Restricted User
08-01-08
12762
#1910
Originally posted by JustFlipACoin
tough one tonight in my eyes. But I think i'll put a small bet on Car, and Car under. I just don't see them gettting swept, and I have Pitt to win the series to back me up.
GL.
Glad your PIT tickets cashed.
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TodaysAction
Restricted User
08-01-08
12762
#1911
3P, DET, win 10.00 units (multiple accounts)
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TodaysAction
Restricted User
08-01-08
12762
#1912
GOAL!!!
WINGS
FINALLY
LIT THE LAMP
AND ARE NOW UP 1-0.
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TodaysAction
Restricted User
08-01-08
12762
#1913
Wagers only have two grades as far as I'm concerned - correct (add to the account and marked/graded winner) or wrong (deduction from the account and graded loser). Some like to bring up ties, this is treated as "No Action" and as such, your account remains the same as it was prior to you making that wager.
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TodaysAction
Restricted User
08-01-08
12762
#1914
DET, win 20.00 units (multiple accounts) 1P, DET, win 1.00 unit
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TodaysAction
Restricted User
08-01-08
12762
#1915
1P wager pushed.
2P, DET, win 1.00 unit 2P, over 1', win 1.00 unit
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TodaysAction
Restricted User
08-01-08
12762
#1916
DET won the 2P wager.
3P, DET, win 1.00 unit 3P, over 1', win 2.00 units
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JustFlipACoin
SBR Hustler
05-21-09
92
#1917
and what do you like tonight? i'm thinking a replay... Detroit heavy, and I'll try the under for a smaller play. This one could go over.
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TodaysAction
Restricted User
08-01-08
12762
#1918
Originally posted by JustFlipACoin
and what do you like tonight? i'm thinking a replay... Detroit heavy, and I'll try the under for a smaller play. This one could go over.
Had DET, over 5' and some 2 & 3 P wagers listed in my baseball thread. I know, hockey is not baseball but that's where they were listed/posted. If you/others don't see anything a hour prior to the puck dropping here, go look there for them as I don't always have time to post in both forums.
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JustFlipACoin
SBR Hustler
05-21-09
92
#1919
Replay it is!!! woot!
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TodaysAction
Restricted User
08-01-08
12762
#1920
NHL uses only rules that are convenient
The National Hockey League rule book spells out 87 rules and hundreds of sub-rules that govern its game. There is an 88th rule that goes unwritten: The league’s braintrust can invalidate any of the others, so long as it behooves their short-sighted and selfish interests.
No group of management has so mangled its sport as the NHL, and its never-ending quest for redemption and relevance turned laughable again Sunday night following Game 2 of the Stanley Cup Finals at Joe Louis Arena. The league overturned an automatic one-game suspension handed down to Pittsburgh star Evgeni Malkin(notes), whose post-whistle elbow and subsequent fight with Detroit’s Henrik Zetterberg(notes) earned him an instigator penalty.
Because Malkin’s antics came with 19 seconds remaining in the Penguins’ 3-1 loss that left them facing a 2-0 series deficit, it triggered Rule 47.22, which hands down the one-game ban to players who instigate a fight in the game’s final five minutes. It is a rule to prevent the kind of thuggery and frustration spilling that Malkin displayed. The punishment fits.
Except in the NHL, which includes out clauses with its rules. This suspension can be reviewed by Colin Campbell, the NHL’s executive vice president and director of hockey operations, who certainly doesn’t have anything riding on Malkin, the potential MVP, no, sir, and wouldn’t at all let his decision be compromised by the quality of the player involved, no way, no how, because he is a fair and impartial jury of one, yes, indeed.
And Campbell did review the incident. With the precision of an electron microscope, assuredly. The rule allows him to rescind the suspension based on “the score, previous incidents, etc.” Campbell determined that “none of the criteria in this rule applied to this situation,” and he went on to explain how.
“Suspensions,” Campbell began in his prepared release, “are applied under this rule when a team attempts to send a message in the last five minutes by having a player instigate a fight.” And that, Campbell said, was not the case Sunday.
Oh, what delicious wording. The Penguins may not have wanted to send a message to the Red Wings, who manhandled them with two season-long minor leaguers and a third-line center tallying their goals. Malkin did. His frustration boiled. The entire point of the fight was to send a message – that the Penguins were still around, and that they still had some fight in them, and that he was going to show it by beefing with a guy 4 inches shorter.
In his first three years, Malkin has not once gotten a five-minute penalty for fighting. This was Zetterberg’s first fight in his six NHL seasons. These are two of the best players in the league, and even if it wasn’t a sucker punch like Scott Walker’s(notes) fist introducing itself to Aaron Ward’s(notes) face in the Carolina-Boston series – which, by the way, was overturned by Chief Justice Campbell, ever wise he – the rule is in plain language.
Now, certainly the rule itself is questionable. That’s not the point. The worst kinds of rules aren’t the ones that make little sense. They are the ones levied willy-nilly, or even worse, enforced with favoritism.
The NHL believes it cannot afford to lose Malkin, even for a game. Pittsburgh staying competitive is good for the league, which wants a long series and surely wouldn’t mind watching Sidney Crosby(notes) skate around the ice with the Cup hoisted above his head. Those versed in NHL justice consider this such a non-issue that they simply scoff at it, so familiar are they with those in charge of the league treating their own bylaws like some burden.
It’s not cynicism if it’s true. Thirty minutes before Campbell’s ruling, Detroit coach Mike Babcock was asked about the potential of Malkin missing Game 3, and he said: “I don’t think anything will happen.”
So that is how it works in the NHL.
Face a penalty.
Get bailed out.
Everyone goes on with their merry day.
The players know the rule because of its severity, and still, Malkin had no problem instigating. The scrum started around Detroit’s net after Pittsburgh center Max Talbot(notes) poked goalie Chris Osgood(notes), who had made a save. The Red Wings did not take kindly to it and surrounded Talbot. Malkin swerved behind the goal, laid into Zetterberg with a left elbow and kept goading him until the gloves came off and punches went in both directions.
And he did this knowing that the league would never, ever suspend him. Players realize the NHL is weak in mind and spirit. It could, ironically, learn something about toughness from them. So they’re going to continue to flout the rule until Campbell or commissioner Gary Bettman or someone else steps in and abolishes it or enforces it.
The league must make up its mind. If it agrees with the principle of the rule, live with its consequences. Otherwise, get rid of it and mete out punishment in its usual manner: devoid of logic and consistency.
Next thing you know, the players will look at the book and wonder what other rules they can break. In fact, that happened Sunday. At the end of Campbell’s statement, the NHL made sure to include this chestnut:
“NHL Hockey Operations also determined that Malkin should have been assessed a game misconduct for not having his jersey tied down.”
Well, that’s grand. An unnecessary elbow. A few good punches. And the NHL is worried about Evgeni Malkin’s clothing.
Like you’d expect anything different.
From Yahoo Sports
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JustFlipACoin
SBR Hustler
05-21-09
92
#1921
I'm hitting Pitt and Pitt Over tonight.
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ram1502
SBR Wise Guy
12-26-08
822
#1922
Great article TA. I would have to agree with every word he said. I'm taking a chance on the Wings tonight at +130. There was a little RLM that I saw and if they win this game, I honestly think they will sweep in Pittsburgh.
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JustFlipACoin
SBR Hustler
05-21-09
92
#1923
I'm going pitt and pitt under for game 4! what do you think? so far I have called the series perfectly... lets see if I can keep the streak alive.
Gl.
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BCaldwell32
SBR MVP
12-13-08
1027
#1924
The rule is made for players that are put in the game in the last 5 minutes for the sole purpose of instigating a fight. This was clearly not the case with Malkin, he was very frustrated and a fight broke out from him letting his emotions get the best of him. If he got suspended for game 3, it would have been the stupidest thing I've ever seen in my life. The NHL needs to promote themselves and attract more fans, that would not happen if they suspended one of the best players on the ice in the stanley cup finals. I can't even believe you think he should have been suspended.
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TodaysAction
Restricted User
08-01-08
12762
#1925
Originally posted by JustFlipACoin
I'm going pitt and pitt under for game 4! what do you think? so far I have called the series perfectly... lets see if I can keep the streak alive.
Gl.
Good afternoon JustFlipACoin,
My wagers for the game have already been placed. I will post them within an/the hour of the opening face off.