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  • Cicima6709
    SBR MVP
    • 09-12-10
    • 1023

    #36
    Originally posted by RED
    Not if you parlay a few of the plays, it pays just fine.
    Parlays are the worst possible bets you can make. Sure you can hit a few and look good, but long term, you are loosing so much value. On top of already losing value by buying a goal. Its going to be very, very hard to win long term like that.
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    • hultas
      SBR Hustler
      • 11-14-09
      • 59

      #37
      Originally posted by RED
      Not if you parlay a few of the plays, it pays just fine.
      Two negative expected value plays doesn't become one good when you parlay.
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      • Corseting
        SBR High Roller
        • 10-12-11
        • 115

        #38
        I want to test this theory tonight... Attached is a spreadsheet with all of the information and expected outcomes based on the system. My wager will be small... 10 dollars to win 174.50 (parlay all games). (This doesnt include washington and NJ games in the parlay since they dont have a 4.5 or 6.5 total on that site...but I listed the expected outcomes for those in the spreadsheet)....I agree fully that this isnt sustainable with the juice involved... especially because you can buy a half point on gamebookers for much less and do 5 or 6 totals instead of 4.5 and 6.5.. but.. Anyway. Good luck all.. we'll see if this comes through.
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        • Cicima6709
          SBR MVP
          • 09-12-10
          • 1023

          #39
          Good luck.

          IMO buying points for O/Us just isnt worth it. Just way too pricey to buy 1 extra goal, you are better off just playing the original total. Your essentially paying 1 unit for 5.5 goals, and doubling that price to 2 units for 1 extra goal. Just not worth it.
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          • fjordo
            SBR MVP
            • 11-26-09
            • 1298

            #40
            I might try selling half points instead of buying them. Here's what I would take tonight/instead of.

            MTL/BOS Under 4.5 @ +184 / Under 6 @ -222
            CBJ/BUF Under 5 @ +155 / Under 6.5 @ -190
            TOR/NYR Under 5 @ +131 / Under 6.5 @ -220
            WPG/PHI Over 6 @ +133 / Over 4.5 @ -300
            NYI/PIT Under 4.5 @ +200 / Under 6 @ -207
            FLA/OTT Over 6 @ +142 / Over 4.5 @ -226
            TB/NSH Over 6 @ +146 / Over 4.5 @ -309
            ANA/MIN Under 4.5 @ +189 / Under 6 @ -244
            LA/DAL Under 4.5 @ +157 / Under 6 @ -309
            WSH/EDM Under 5 @ +129 / Under 6.5 @ -222
            NJ/PHX Under 4.5 @ +163 / Under 6 @ -287
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            • ebbearsfb1
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 12-07-08
              • 18815

              #41
              Tough to say not buy goals when last night I have 5.5 and both games land on 6 with very late goals it stings your butt
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              • spankmythighs
                SBR MVP
                • 01-26-10
                • 2884

                #42
                Originally posted by BroDog73
                Actually he lost money. He says he bets $50 per game. That means he lost $25 (50+50-125). Does anyone really believe he went 9-0 and 14-0? Come on guys!! Especially when the 1st night he posts, he goes 2-1???
                You can actually check for yourself. All you have to do is go to last Sat. with the averages and my criteria and you will see. You don't have to take my word for it but if you have doubts do your homework first. Any game totaling 5 or 6 is a win which is like half the games and then you just have to check the others.
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                • spankmythighs
                  SBR MVP
                  • 01-26-10
                  • 2884

                  #43
                  Originally posted by fjordo
                  I might try selling half points instead of buying them. Here's what I would take tonight/instead of.

                  MTL/BOS Under 4.5 @ +184 / Under 6 @ -222
                  CBJ/BUF Under 5 @ +155 / Under 6.5 @ -190
                  TOR/NYR Under 5 @ +131 / Under 6.5 @ -220
                  WPG/PHI Over 6 @ +133 / Over 4.5 @ -300
                  NYI/PIT Under 4.5 @ +200 / Under 6 @ -207
                  FLA/OTT Over 6 @ +142 / Over 4.5 @ -226
                  TB/NSH Over 6 @ +146 / Over 4.5 @ -309
                  ANA/MIN Under 4.5 @ +189 / Under 6 @ -244
                  LA/DAL Under 4.5 @ +157 / Under 6 @ -309
                  WSH/EDM Under 5 @ +129 / Under 6.5 @ -222
                  NJ/PHX Under 4.5 @ +163 / Under 6 @ -287
                  Interesting theory. I might try this on the side aswell. What I will do tonight is have both sides in seperate parlays using pairs. So even if one or 2 games fail you still come out ahead.
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                  • spankmythighs
                    SBR MVP
                    • 01-26-10
                    • 2884

                    #44
                    Here are my picks for tonight:

                    CBS VS. Buf UNDER 6.5 -185
                    MTL VS. Bos UNDER 6.5 -286
                    NYI VS. Pitt UNDER 6.5 -270
                    TOR VS. NYR UNDER 6.5 -238
                    WPG VS. Phili OVER 4.5 -286
                    FLA VS. Ott OVER 4.5 -263
                    ANA VS. Minn UNDER 6.5 -303
                    TB VS. Nash OVER 4.5 -270
                    LA VS. Dal UNDER 6.5 -333
                    WASH VS. Edm UNDER 6.5 -227
                    NJ VS. Phx UNDER 6.5 -345

                    Here we go!!
                    sbr
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                    • spankmythighs
                      SBR MVP
                      • 01-26-10
                      • 2884

                      #45
                      Current record is 28-2 +23 units since last Sat.
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                      • puckhead31
                        Restricted User
                        • 03-14-11
                        • 564

                        #46
                        Originally posted by spankmythighs
                        Here are my picks for tonight: CBS VS. Buf UNDER 6.5 -185
                        MTL VS. Bos UNDER 6.5 -286
                        NYI VS. Pitt UNDER 6.5 -270
                        TOR VS. NYR UNDER 6.5 -238
                        WPG VS. Phili OVER 4.5 -286
                        FLA VS. Ott OVER 4.5 -263
                        ANA VS. Minn UNDER 6.5 -303
                        TB VS. Nash OVER 4.5 -270
                        LA VS. Dal UNDER 6.5 -333
                        WASH VS. Edm UNDER 6.5 -227
                        NJ VS. Phx UNDER 6.5 -345
                        Here we go!!

                        yes
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                        • Cicima6709
                          SBR MVP
                          • 09-12-10
                          • 1023

                          #47
                          Damn, that is some ridiculous juice. Good luck.
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                          • DemoralizdDreamr
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-04-11
                            • 4319

                            #48
                            This is just stupid.
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                            • spankmythighs
                              SBR MVP
                              • 01-26-10
                              • 2884

                              #49
                              Originally posted by DemoralizdDreamr
                              This is just stupid.
                              We'll see. But please keep posting, I like your avatar. I have also taken the averages from each game and rounded them up and down to the nearest goal for OVER/UNDER aswell. Here are the lines:

                              CBS VS. Buf UNDER 5 +170
                              MTL VS. Bos UNDER 5 +112
                              NYI VS. Pitt UNDER 4.5 +198
                              TOR VS. NYR UNDER 5 +135
                              WPG VS. Phili OVER 6 +135
                              FLA VS. Ott OVER 6 +145
                              ANA VS. Minn UNDER 4.5 +173
                              TB VS. Nash OVER 6 +152
                              LA VS. Dal UNDER 4.5 +162
                              WAS VS. Edm UNDER 5 +134
                              NJ VS. Phx UNDER 5 -112

                              Risking $50 on each.
                              sbr
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                              • bet420
                                Restricted User
                                • 10-17-11
                                • 162

                                #50
                                I'm going to buy points up to 6.5 and bet the under of every game along with parlaying the "locks"(personal favorites of the night) and see how it goes. Placing $10 on each bet and $20 on 3game parlays
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                                • ebbearsfb1
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 12-07-08
                                  • 18815

                                  #51
                                  So the second set is the dog way... very interesting good luck.. let em hate... no one asked them to play it
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                                  • DemoralizdDreamr
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 02-04-11
                                    • 4319

                                    #52
                                    Originally posted by spankmythighs
                                    We'll see. But please keep posting, I like your avatar. I have also taken the averages from each game and rounded them up and down to the nearest goal for OVER/UNDER aswell. Here are the lines:

                                    CBS VS. Buf UNDER 5 +170
                                    MTL VS. Bos UNDER 5 +112
                                    NYI VS. Pitt UNDER 4.5 +198
                                    TOR VS. NYR UNDER 5 +135
                                    WPG VS. Phili OVER 6 +135
                                    FLA VS. Ott OVER 6 +145
                                    ANA VS. Minn UNDER 4.5 +173
                                    TB VS. Nash OVER 6 +152
                                    LA VS. Dal UNDER 4.5 +162
                                    WAS VS. Edm UNDER 5 +134
                                    NJ VS. Phx UNDER 5 -112

                                    Risking $50 on each.
                                    thats better
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                                    • spankmythighs
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 01-26-10
                                      • 2884

                                      #53
                                      Originally posted by ebbearsfb1
                                      So the second set is the dog way... very interesting good luck.. let em hate... no one asked them to play it
                                      The second set is just closer to what they should average for the game based on their past games. Rounded down under .5 and up over .5. So if the combined average is 5.35, I would go UNDER 5. There will just be more ties this way and probably a better chance of $$'s.
                                      sbr
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                                      • Sovereign7
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 12-04-10
                                        • 210

                                        #54
                                        Originally posted by spankmythighs
                                        We'll see. But please keep posting, I like your avatar. I have also taken the averages from each game and rounded them up and down to the nearest goal for OVER/UNDER aswell. Here are the lines: CBS VS. Buf UNDER 5 +170 MTL VS. Bos UNDER 5 +112 NYI VS. Pitt UNDER 4.5 +198 TOR VS. NYR UNDER 5 +135 WPG VS. Phili OVER 6 +135 FLA VS. Ott OVER 6 +145 ANA VS. Minn UNDER 4.5 +173 TB VS. Nash OVER 6 +152 LA VS. Dal UNDER 4.5 +162 WAS VS. Edm UNDER 5 +134 NJ VS. Phx UNDER 5 -112 Risking $50 on each.

                                        Which of these will you parlay??
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                                        • spankmythighs
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 01-26-10
                                          • 2884

                                          #55
                                          Originally posted by Sovereign7
                                          Which of these will you parlay??
                                          I parlayed them all as pair bets.
                                          sbr
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                                          • ShogunRua
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 12-23-09
                                            • 4668

                                            #56
                                            Has this 'system' been back tested at all? I don't see how this could possibly be profitable long term.
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                                            • bet420
                                              Restricted User
                                              • 10-17-11
                                              • 162

                                              #57
                                              Season regular time final scores under more then over
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                                              • matt1216
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 10-27-11
                                                • 14683

                                                #58
                                                2 Games max. Hockey can be so up and down. Just do your homework. I would have never went over on the stlouis van game. Ive looked at the history between those 2 teams, there always 2-1, 3-2 games. I liked the montreal over, it was only a matter of time befor the canadiens would show up, and bryzgalov sucks against montreal in his history.
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                                                • Canukc
                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                  • 01-11-10
                                                  • 139

                                                  #59
                                                  Originally posted by spankmythighs
                                                  The second set is just closer to what they should average for the game based on their past games. Rounded down under .5 and up over .5. So if the combined average is 5.35, I would go UNDER 5. There will just be more ties this way and probably a better chance of $$'s.
                                                  If only it was that easy......I bet NHL o/u almost every day - for the last 3 years. Goals for and against averages are a good place to start. Along with previous head to head record, over/under record, last 5, 10, 20 games, goalie's last 5, 10, 20 games and games against that team along with injuries and coaching philosophy, days rest and a few I don't have on the tip of my tongue.

                                                  GL on your averages.
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                                                  • k13
                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                    • 07-16-10
                                                    • 18104

                                                    #60
                                                    You are better off betting LIVE and getting a better number.

                                                    Or if you want to lay serious juice, bet365, no team will score 5 goals in the game props. I pick my spots and parlay two.
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                                                    • eldian
                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                      • 09-23-10
                                                      • 180

                                                      #61
                                                      Did some calculations. Took the average juice for O4.5 for the 11 games tonight and got -240. That means at the juice of -240 break even point is 70.59%. Percentage of games going O4.5 last year was 70.49%.

                                                      TIFWIW
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                                                      • EXpertcapper
                                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                                        • 02-05-10
                                                        • 5026

                                                        #62
                                                        7-0 so far
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                                                        • drfunkmaster
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 11-29-08
                                                          • 11162

                                                          #63
                                                          looks good...
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                                                          • spankmythighs
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 01-26-10
                                                            • 2884

                                                            #64
                                                            Looks like LA and Dallas will go OVER so that will be the only loss so far. 8-1 on the night so far.
                                                            sbr
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                                                            • Winnipeg Jets
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 05-16-09
                                                              • 1723

                                                              #65
                                                              just checking out teams who played each other twice. the record is 10- 4 where the game over/under reversed.

                                                              dallas kings 1-0 last time out. tonight over....this would be at a normal 5.5 though.
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                                                              • Tuesday
                                                                Restricted User
                                                                • 05-03-11
                                                                • 3695

                                                                #66
                                                                Good shit!

                                                                Originally posted by spankmythighs
                                                                Looks like LA and Dallas will go OVER so that will be the only loss so far. 8-1 on the night so far.
                                                                !

                                                                !
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                                                                • DennisGreen
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 11-27-08
                                                                  • 18369

                                                                  #67
                                                                  Unreal record so far but gotta think 70% win ratio over the course of a full season just can't be sustainable.
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                                                                  • spankmythighs
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 01-26-10
                                                                    • 2884

                                                                    #68
                                                                    Two losses on the night tonight to go 9 - 2 for +3 units on my system. Overall record since starting Oct. 21 is 37 - 4 for +26 units.
                                                                    sbr
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                                                                    • bet420
                                                                      Restricted User
                                                                      • 10-17-11
                                                                      • 162

                                                                      #69
                                                                      Edittt
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                                                                      • EasyPicks
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 10-21-11
                                                                        • 3804

                                                                        #70
                                                                        First off, thx for the sharing spankmythights.

                                                                        Just one question:
                                                                        Has anyone done the calculations to determine what should be the rate of success (hit ratio) for this kind of juice?
                                                                        At 37-4 (90%) I know it's good ...but what's the lower % number until we go into the red?

                                                                        thx
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