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  • bisturis
    SBR High Roller
    • 04-03-11
    • 141

    #2836
    Originally posted by justin81
    JM system and this one are on fire..., started with $250ish on my acct, almost 1300 right now. HUGE THX guys.
    Wow! That's a huge difference! How much are you betting per play?
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    • Wallco99
      SBR Hall of Famer
      • 01-01-11
      • 7261

      #2837
      Originally posted by Andy3568
      I thought at first they were a play too. The individual team page for Florida shows them as a favorite, but you pointed out to me last year that the team pages don't always agree with the page for the particular date.
      It's not just that they don't agree, but while doing my backtests I noticed that on a majority of the occasions that they differed, when I would cross reference the lines with other reputable sites, the favorite was almost always the same team that the scoresandodds main screen had and not necessarily the team pages. Since there are differences on occasion, then obviously I had to pick one to OFFICIALLY use for my backtest and to determine ALL future system plays. So I decided that thel main screen lines is what we would use, which as I said, seemed to be more consistent.

      I really hope everybody on here reads these two posts so these same questions won't be asked everytime there is a close line game. The info is there, you just have to dig a little. Or better yet, I know this system pretty well and I am already doing the digging, so just trust that what I post is accurate. I have been running this for three years and backtested numerous seasons before that. So believe me when I say, I know where to look for my official lines, and I won't read it wrong. I am in no way saying that I will never make a mistake, but almost every day since we started, someone has questioned my posts. I know I'm not making that many errors.
      Last edited by Wallco99; 11-02-13, 09:35 AM.
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      • justin81
        SBR Sharp
        • 04-05-11
        • 298

        #2838
        Originally posted by bisturis
        Wow! That's a huge difference! How much are you betting per play?
        to win 30, runnig the labby though. Safety first. Pretty sure regression is around the corner...
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        • ad19
          SBR Rookie
          • 11-02-13
          • 3

          #2839
          First, I want to thank you Wallco99 for all the work you have been doing. I've been following this thread since the beginning of the season and I was just hoping someone can confirm if I am doing the B and C level bets correctly. For example, if my unit bets are $10 and on a level A bet I was expecting $5 profit. So on a B level bet I would be wagering $15? Consequently, if I was expecting $10 profit on the B level I would end end up wagering $40 on the C level bet?

          I apologize for the simple question but I just wanted to confirm for my my my own sake.
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          • Wallco99
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 01-01-11
            • 7261

            #2840
            Originally posted by ad19
            First, I want to thank you Wallco99 for all the work you have been doing. I've been following this thread since the beginning of the season and I was just hoping someone can confirm if I am doing the B and C level bets correctly. For example, if my unit bets are $10 and on a level A bet I was expecting $5 profit. So on a B level bet I would be wagering $15? Consequently, if I was expecting $10 profit on the B level I would end end up wagering $40 on the C level bet?

            I apologize for the simple question but I just wanted to confirm for my my my own sake.
            Go to my NBA thread and look up post #45. The chase bet structure is listed there and is the same principle for all chase systems. The only difference is NBA Chase 110 is a 4 game chase and NHL Gold is a 3 game chase, but you would just stop 1 bet earlier in this system. Here is the link:

            Sports betting and handicapping forum: discuss picks, odds, and predictions for upcoming games and results on latest bets.
            Last edited by Wallco99; 11-02-13, 10:18 AM.
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            • Wallco99
              SBR Hall of Famer
              • 01-01-11
              • 7261

              #2841
              Originally posted by ad19
              First, I want to thank you Wallco99 for all the work you have been doing. I've been following this thread since the beginning of the season and I was just hoping someone can confirm if I am doing the B and C level bets correctly. For example, if my unit bets are $10 and on a level A bet I was expecting $5 profit. So on a B level bet I would be wagering $15? Consequently, if I was expecting $10 profit on the B level I would end end up wagering $40 on the C level bet?

              I apologize for the simple question but I just wanted to confirm for my my my own sake.
              You are also confusing terms, if you are expecting a $5 profit, then your units are $5. If you risk $10 to win $5, you are risking 2 units to win 1. Always looking to "win" units not "risk" units. All my updates use this logic.
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              • ad19
                SBR Rookie
                • 11-02-13
                • 3

                #2842
                Originally posted by Wallco99
                Go to my NBA thread and look up post #45. The chase bet structure is listed thater and is the same principle for all chase ststems. Only difference is that is a 4 game chase and this is a 3, but you would just stop 1 bet earlier. Here is link:

                http://forum.sbrforum.com/nba-basket...ba-thread.html
                Thank you.

                So just to confirm, assuming $10 units:

                - A level: Bet $10, expected profit $5 - loss
                - B level: Bet $25 (A level loss [$15] + 1u [$10]), expected profit $10 - loss
                - C level: Bet $60 (A level loss [$15] + B level loss [$35] + 1u[$10])
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                • Wallco99
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 01-01-11
                  • 7261

                  #2843
                  Originally posted by ad19
                  Thank you.

                  So just to confirm, assuming $10 units:

                  - A level: Bet $10, expected profit $5 - loss
                  - B level: Bet $25 (A level loss [$15] + 1u [$10]), expected profit $10 - loss
                  - C level: Bet $60 (A level loss [$15] + B level loss [$35] + 1u[$10])
                  Wrong, read #2841
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                  • Wallco99
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 01-01-11
                    • 7261

                    #2844
                    Originally posted by ad19
                    Thank you.

                    So just to confirm, assuming $10 units:

                    - A level: Bet $10, expected profit $5 - loss
                    - B level: Bet $25 (A level loss [$15] + 1u [$10]), expected profit $10 - loss
                    - C level: Bet $60 (A level loss [$15] + B level loss [$35] + 1u[$10])
                    If your (A) bet was a $10 unit (WIN) and lost @ -200 odds, your loss would be $20. Next bet is to "WIN" 30,a loss would be 30 x odds.

                    The post I sent you to in NBA thread is very, very clearly written.
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                    • ad19
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 11-02-13
                      • 3

                      #2845
                      OK, I get it now. Thank you.
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                      • Grinder12000
                        SBR MVP
                        • 04-21-11
                        • 1809

                        #2846
                        LOL. Very clearly written. Obviously you are an systems analyst and not an spec writer. Trying to squeeze blood out of a termite.
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                        • ridersonthestorm
                          SBR Sharp
                          • 09-30-13
                          • 496

                          #2847
                          Bloody mofos Carolina, they are on a mission to screw us real good. We already need them to score to avoid bet C, and they score less than a goal per game lately and now earn penalties for fun.
                          Last edited by ridersonthestorm; 11-02-13, 07:30 PM.
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                          • bonhammer
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 05-27-13
                            • 32

                            #2848
                            no worries, plenty of time left and C bet vs the flyers.
                            -bonhammer
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                            • ridersonthestorm
                              SBR Sharp
                              • 09-30-13
                              • 496

                              #2849
                              Originally posted by bonhammer
                              no worries, plenty of time left and C bet vs the flyers.
                              -bonhammer
                              Those farkers are done today already and given how pisspoor they play and HAVE NOT SCORED for 7 periods now, I am worried.

                              STOP THE PRESS. Carolina have scored a goal. I repeat, Carolina have scored a goal.
                              Last edited by ridersonthestorm; 11-02-13, 07:40 PM.
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                              • Wallco99
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 01-01-11
                                • 7261

                                #2850
                                Originally posted by ridersonthestorm
                                Those farkers are done today already and given how pisspoor they play and HAVE NOT SCORED for 7 periods now, I am worried.

                                STOP THE PRESS. Carolina have scored a goal. I repeat, Carolina have scored a goal.
                                You may need Xanax for the (C) bet if you are this anxious during the midpoint of the (B) bet. I will tell you this, there are over 250 plays on average per season and many of them go to a (C) bet, some with much higher odds. This system will really test your patience.
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                                • djmano
                                  SBR High Roller
                                  • 04-30-12
                                  • 209

                                  #2851
                                  i need xanax even for the (B) bet
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                                  • ridersonthestorm
                                    SBR Sharp
                                    • 09-30-13
                                    • 496

                                    #2852
                                    Originally posted by Wallco99
                                    You may need Xanax for the (C) bet if you are this anxious during the midpoint of the (B) bet. I will tell you this, there are over 250 plays on average per season and many of them go to a (C) bet, some with much higher odds. This system will really test your patience.
                                    You are right, I am not the calmest oke around. For some weird reason I have no big problems to lose 10 or more in a row in 50-50 games, hell, I managed to lose in space of week or something 3 MLB games, when my team was up by 6 runs or more.

                                    This series so far were great, that's the sole consolation and that's why I have decided to quit independent loss making tampering and just let things go on a proved path here and hope for the best.

                                    But by golly, no way I can be calm like buddhist, knowing my luck and seeing things turning sharply again, when I get involved. I can only hope collective luck of others will prevail.
                                    Last edited by ridersonthestorm; 11-02-13, 08:42 PM.
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                                    • alexknyc
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 03-22-11
                                      • 861

                                      #2853
                                      If you need chemical help for anxiety on a (B) bet in November, this may not be the system for you.
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                                      • xauwatroi
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 09-07-13
                                        • 187

                                        #2854
                                        Wow damn such a bad day. Hope it'll be better tomorrow
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                                        • Greg242
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 11-07-11
                                          • 551

                                          #2855
                                          What happens if Carolina is favored in next game? Is it a ML play for the cbet then? Since books wouldn't offer +1.5 ...
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                                          • Wallco99
                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                            • 01-01-11
                                            • 7261

                                            #2856
                                            Originally posted by Greg242
                                            What happens if Carolina is favored in next game? Is it a ML play for the cbet then? Since books wouldn't offer +1.5 ...
                                            Post #2447
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                                            • Grinder12000
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 04-21-11
                                              • 1809

                                              #2857
                                              I need chemical help for "A" bets!!
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                                              • Andy3568
                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                • 01-17-10
                                                • 615

                                                #2858
                                                All chases can get pretty stressful. You have to leave emotion out of it. Earlier this year in the JM NFL system, there was a "C" bet on Jacksonville over Denver. Talk about a temptation to skip a "C" bet! Jacksonville lost the game SU, of course, but they ended up covering the huge spread. Lesson: Leave emotion out of it and follow the system.
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                                                • Grinder12000
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 04-21-11
                                                  • 1809

                                                  #2859
                                                  Leave emotion out of it and follow the system.
                                                  Well - but don't ignore common sense when it comes to your bankroll. IF it does get too stressful re-evaluate how big your starting bets are. I'm hope some of you are making adjustments. I started out small as I know the start of the NHL GOLD season is not a smooth ride. At least the last 2 years.
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                                                  • Wallco99
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 01-01-11
                                                    • 7261

                                                    #2860
                                                    Wallco NHL GOLD
                                                    2013-14 System to date: 27-0 (fin. series)
                                                    System profit/loss: +27.00 units (fin.series)
                                                    Current open series: 3 (-13.49 units)

                                                    (11/2/13):
                                                    #26 Carolina (+1½) v2 (B) - Loss
                                                    #27 San Jose (M/L) v1 (A) - Loss
                                                    #28 Tampa Bay (+1½) v1 (A) - Win
                                                    #29 Columbus (+1½) v1 (A) - Loss
                                                    #30 Vancouver (M/L) v1 (A) - Win

                                                    v1 Fades
                                                    (A) 18-5
                                                    (B) 3-0

                                                    (C) 0-0
                                                    Losses: None

                                                    v2 Plays
                                                    (A) 6-1
                                                    (B) 0-1

                                                    (C) 0-0
                                                    Losses: None



                                                    Games for (11/3/13):
                                                    #26 Resumes v2 (C) on 11/5/13
                                                    #27 Resumes v1 (B) on 11/5/13
                                                    #29 Resumes v1 (B) on 11/6/13
                                                    #31 Calgary (+1½) @ Chicago v1 (A) (7:35 pm EDT)


                                                    Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
                                                    System rules and backtest can be found in posts #2446 & #2447.

                                                    Last edited by Wallco99; 11-03-13, 02:45 PM.
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                                                    • Wallco99
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 01-01-11
                                                      • 7261

                                                      #2861
                                                      ****
                                                      Last edited by Wallco99; 11-03-13, 02:50 PM.
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                                                      • dinnydan
                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                        • 09-04-13
                                                        • 6

                                                        #2862
                                                        I was wondering if you backtested this playing ALL moneylines instead of instead of playing the pucklines on underdogs, and what were your results?
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                                                        • Wallco99
                                                          SBR Hall of Famer
                                                          • 01-01-11
                                                          • 7261

                                                          #2863
                                                          Originally posted by dinnydan
                                                          I was wondering if you backtested this playing ALL moneylines instead of instead of playing the pucklines on underdogs, and what were your results?
                                                          I believe Alexknyc monitored it that way for a while and it wasn't as nearly as effective.
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                                                          • Wallco99
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 01-01-11
                                                            • 7261

                                                            #2864
                                                            ^^^
                                                            Last edited by Wallco99; 11-04-13, 08:41 AM.
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                                                            • Wallco99
                                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                                              • 01-01-11
                                                              • 7261

                                                              #2865
                                                              Wallco NHL GOLD
                                                              2013-14 System to date: 28-0 (fin. series)
                                                              System profit/loss: +28.00 units (fin.series)
                                                              Current open series: 3 (-13.49 units)

                                                              (11/3/13):
                                                              #31 Calgary (+1½) v1 (A) - Win

                                                              v1 Fades
                                                              (A) 19-5
                                                              (B) 3-0

                                                              (C) 0-0
                                                              Losses: None

                                                              v2 Plays
                                                              (A) 6-1
                                                              (B) 0-1

                                                              (C) 0-0
                                                              Losses: None



                                                              Games for (11/4/13):
                                                              #26 Resumes v2 (C) on 11/5/13
                                                              #27 Resumes v1 (B) on 11/5/13
                                                              #29 Resumes v1 (B) on 11/6/13
                                                              #32 Anaheim (+1½) @ N.Y. Rangers v1 (A) (7:35 pm EST)
                                                              #33 Detroit @ Winnipeg (+1½) v1 (A) (8:05 pm EST)


                                                              Do not place any wagers on teams unless you are sure your team is the dog or favorite. The team underlined and highlighted blue is the team we are betting on, regardless of v1 or v2. If you play the closer line games too early, you may be overpaying for a loss if you play the P/L and should have been on the M/L, or lose a game that you would have won had you been on the (+1½) instead of the M/L. We will always play the M/L on favorites and games when the line is (-110/-110) or (-105/-105), and always play the (+1½) if the team we are betting on is a dog. ALL results will be based on this principle. If it is a close line game, you may want to wait til closer to game time to place your wager so you know whether or not we are on the (+1½) or the (M/L). All lines and standings are based on FINAL lines from ScoresandOdds.com/. If one of the teams we are playing switches from a favorite to a dog, or vice versa, after my initial post, make sure you get the appropriate line if it differs from what I have posted. The wins and losses will be based on who is the dog team on ScoresandOdds.com/ final lines.
                                                              System rules and backtest can be found in post #2446 & #2447
                                                              Last edited by Wallco99; 11-04-13, 04:55 PM.
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                                                              • ken23lau
                                                                SBR Sharp
                                                                • 09-11-10
                                                                • 296

                                                                #2866
                                                                Anaheim looks like the underdog right now.
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                                                                • oldshoebox72
                                                                  SBR High Roller
                                                                  • 05-09-13
                                                                  • 104

                                                                  #2867
                                                                  Anaheim is +111 underdog, so the play #32 should be a PL instead of ML (4:30PM EST).
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                                                                  • Andy3568
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 01-17-10
                                                                    • 615

                                                                    #2868
                                                                    Originally posted by oldshoebox72
                                                                    Anaheim is +111 underdog, so the play #32 should be a PL instead of ML (4:30PM EST).
                                                                    ...unless it changes again in the 3 hours between now and game time.
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                                                                    • miss_sbets
                                                                      SBR High Roller
                                                                      • 09-07-13
                                                                      • 223

                                                                      #2869
                                                                      People who can't read and took ML for both games must be super happy now.
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                                                                      • SuperHappyTime
                                                                        SBR Rookie
                                                                        • 01-14-13
                                                                        • 42

                                                                        #2870
                                                                        Originally posted by miss_sbets
                                                                        People who can't read and took ML for both games must be super happy now.
                                                                        Not likely, they probably bet to win only 1 unit as usual.
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