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  • Trivial
    SBR MVP
    • 11-22-09
    • 1328

    #386
    Originally posted by ElCapitan
    V2 Play - tracking only

    V2 Chicago Blackhawks (A) ML +115 (1 to win 1.15) (5Dimes)
    V2 Chicago Blackhawks(A) PL -255 (2.55 to win 1) (5Dimes)
    Are V2 plays meant to be wagered on?
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    • Valand
      SBR High Roller
      • 05-25-11
      • 238

      #387
      No he's only following them last year the lost big see first page
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      • Trivial
        SBR MVP
        • 11-22-09
        • 1328

        #388
        Thanks a bunch.
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        • EasyPicks
          SBR MVP
          • 10-21-11
          • 3804

          #389
          any (C ) loss this year? V1 and V2?
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          • alexknyc
            SBR Wise Guy
            • 03-22-11
            • 861

            #390
            Originally posted by EasyPicks
            any (C ) loss this year? V1 and V2?
            I don't think so but it's very hard to tell from the way the record is kept.
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            • doublej95
              SBR Posting Legend
              • 01-26-10
              • 14094

              #391
              Originally posted by EasyPicks
              any (C ) loss this year? V1 and V2?
              I think the Isles lost on the V1 ml. That is the only one.
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              • Win89
                SBR High Roller
                • 11-06-11
                • 157

                #392
                Anybody know what was the official record wins/losses for V2 PL last year?
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                • ElCapitan
                  SBR MVP
                  • 08-19-08
                  • 2129

                  #393
                  Originally posted by Trivial
                  Are V2 plays meant to be wagered on?
                  It depends on the size of your bankroll and balls.

                  Originally posted by doublej95
                  I think the Isles lost on the V1 ml. That is the only one
                  Correct. In my next post I'll add a Series Record stat so people can see if there are any SERIES losses.
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                  • EasyPicks
                    SBR MVP
                    • 10-21-11
                    • 3804

                    #394
                    thx Elcapitan
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                    • Trivial
                      SBR MVP
                      • 11-22-09
                      • 1328

                      #395
                      Originally posted by ElCapitan
                      It depends on the size of your bankroll and balls.



                      Correct. In my next post I'll add a Series Record stat so people can see if there are any SERIES losses.

                      Lol. Thx.
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                      • UK_gixxer
                        SBR Hustler
                        • 11-14-11
                        • 89

                        #396
                        captain- just wondering, any thoughts on why V2 is performing so well thus far and didnt perform well last season? Did maybe V2 start out this well last year and then all of a sudden started losing, or did it just lose out of the gate? I tried looking at your last season spreadsheet but it was a little hard for me to decipher...just trying to decide if I should make V2 bets this season because it looks to be doing well, but if it did this last year as well I will probably stay away.

                        Thanks for all your work!
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                        • edh1011
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 08-02-09
                          • 907

                          #397
                          I think for V2 it's a matter of filtering out the poor teams. Last year MOST of the C losses came with teams like Colorado, NY Islanders, Columbus, Dallas...all the teams with poor road records. Some of the good teams lost too on the ML, but not nearly as many. Over the past two seasons, February is the time to really start red flagging the poor teams who are not in contention
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                          • doublej95
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 01-26-10
                            • 14094

                            #398
                            I have played a couple of the V2 plays on the ml. If it's a good team I look to see what three teams are going to be a determine if there is a good chance for a win.
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                            • UK_gixxer
                              SBR Hustler
                              • 11-14-11
                              • 89

                              #399
                              Originally posted by doublej95
                              I have played a couple of the V2 plays on the ml. If it's a good team I look to see what three teams are going to be a determine if there is a good chance for a win.
                              so how do you feel about chicago's chances of winning this one? they look like they are pretty terrible on the road, right?
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                              • doublej95
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 01-26-10
                                • 14094

                                #400
                                Originally posted by UK_gixxer

                                so how do you feel about chicago's chances of winning this one? they look like they are pretty terrible on the road, right?

                                I think their best shot on the ml is against Calgary and I think they should have no problem covering the puckline in the next three.
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                                • jcygts6
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 04-05-09
                                  • 3316

                                  #401
                                  Looks like chicago comes through
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                                  • UK_gixxer
                                    SBR Hustler
                                    • 11-14-11
                                    • 89

                                    #402
                                    Originally posted by doublej95
                                    I think their best shot on the ml is against Calgary and I think they should have no problem covering the puckline in the next three.
                                    thanks for the advice- it helped me make the right call tonight- although I wish I had put a lot more down now! haha
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                                    • ElCapitan
                                      SBR MVP
                                      • 08-19-08
                                      • 2129

                                      #403
                                      11/17 Results

                                      Originally posted by ElCapitan
                                      V2 Play - tracking only

                                      V2 Chicago Blackhawks (A) ML +115 (1 to win 1.15) (5Dimes) *WIN*
                                      V2 Chicago Blackhawks(A) PL -255 (2.55 to win 1) (5Dimes) *WIN*
                                      Record:
                                      V1 ML: 13(A)-5(B)-2(C) (+8.01) SERIES: 11-1
                                      V1 PL: 13(A)-4(B)-0(C) (+10.82) SERIES: 12-0

                                      V2 ML: 16(A)-5(B)-1(C) (+15.93) SERIES: 15-0
                                      V2 PL: 16(A)-2(B)-1(C) (+13.90) SERIES: 15-0
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                                      • Win89
                                        SBR High Roller
                                        • 11-06-11
                                        • 157

                                        #404
                                        Originally posted by doublej95
                                        I have played a couple of the V2 plays on the ml. If it's a good team I look to see what three teams are going to be a determine if there is a good chance for a win.
                                        I agree, keeping an eye on the bad teams and looking at the performance of the three opponents should keep things honest.
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                                        • ElCapitan
                                          SBR MVP
                                          • 08-19-08
                                          • 2129

                                          #405
                                          11/17 Plays

                                          V1 Washington Capitals (B) ML -165 (3.60 to win 2.18) (5Dimes)
                                          V1 Washington Capitals (B) PL (fav, play ML) (3.60 to win 2.18) (5Dimes)

                                          V2 Play - tracking only

                                          V2 Detroit Red Wings (B) ML +125 (1.68 to win 2.1) (5Dimes)
                                          V2 Detroit Red Wings (B) PL -230 (4.83 to win 2.1) (5Dimes)
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                                          • EasyPicks
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 10-21-11
                                            • 3804

                                            #406
                                            Originally posted by ElCapitan
                                            Record:
                                            V1 ML: 13(A)-5(B)-2(C) (+8.01) SERIES: 12-0
                                            V1 PL: 13(A)-4(B)-0(C) (+10.82) SERIES: 12-0

                                            V2 ML: 16(A)-5(B)-1(C) (+15.93) SERIES: 15-0
                                            V2 PL: 16(A)-2(B)-1(C) (+13.90) SERIES: 15-0
                                            u said that 1 loss occurred with the NIY....?
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                                            • ElCapitan
                                              SBR MVP
                                              • 08-19-08
                                              • 2129

                                              #407
                                              Originally posted by EasyPicks
                                              u said that 1 loss occurred with the NIY....?
                                              Whoops! You're correct. One loss on the ML series.

                                              Thanks for catching this.
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                                              • UK_gixxer
                                                SBR Hustler
                                                • 11-14-11
                                                • 89

                                                #408
                                                just curious, what is everyone's unit = in terms of $$$ ? I've been trying to adjust mine a little to take advantage of the historical success of the V1 system. I know everyone's unit should reflect their bankroll and obey proper money management, but I'm not going to lose my house or car over this, just entertain me on this
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                                                • Thirsty P
                                                  SBR Wise Guy
                                                  • 11-16-09
                                                  • 665

                                                  #409
                                                  Originally posted by UK_gixxer
                                                  just curious, what is everyone's unit = in terms of $$$ ? I've been trying to adjust mine a little to take advantage of the historical success of the V1 system. I know everyone's unit should reflect their bankroll and obey proper money management, but I'm not going to lose my house or car over this, just entertain me on this
                                                  I play it like this:

                                                  A bet = 2.5% of my bankroll
                                                  B bet = 5% of my bankroll
                                                  C bet = 10% of my bankroll

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                                                  • EasyPicks
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 10-21-11
                                                    • 3804

                                                    #410
                                                    €40 for me
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                                                    • ElCapitan
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 08-19-08
                                                      • 2129

                                                      #411
                                                      I'll entertain.

                                                      When I first started this for the 09-10 season, I started with $1000 bankroll and was playing $10 units just to see how things worked out. I played both the ML and PL series. I ended up +66 units ($660) for the whole season with everything totaled together. It was a bit wild at times and I still remember losing the 32u bet on Columbus two days before Christmas. It's not a good feeling to watch $320 disappear in one night on one stupid game.

                                                      Then in 10-11 I started with the $1660 but like an overconfident idiot I went to $25 units. Of course we all know how that turned out and I lost 53u ($1325) between the V1 and V2 plays.

                                                      This season I reloaded and started with a $2000 bank and I have been playing $50 units but on V1 only. As of right now, I'm up ~19u with one series open, so I ain't complaining.
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                                                      • Andy3568
                                                        SBR Wise Guy
                                                        • 01-17-10
                                                        • 615

                                                        #412
                                                        Originally posted by UK_gixxer
                                                        just curious, what is everyone's unit = in terms of $$$ ? I've been trying to adjust mine a little to take advantage of the historical success of the V1 system. I know everyone's unit should reflect their bankroll and obey proper money management, but I'm not going to lose my house or car over this, just entertain me on this
                                                        I don't know what everyone else's opinion is, but I think you're making a mistake if you adjust your units mid season. The reason is... systems tend to correct to the average performance over the course of the season. This isn't guaranteed, but it does happen. So if you've been winning more than usual, if you adjust your unit amount up, then when the system starts to correct, in other words, starts to lose, you're now losing at a higher rate. It works the other way, too. If you've been losing, and you adjust your unit amount down, when the system corrects, in other words, starts to win, you will be winning at a lower rate.

                                                        IMO, pick a unit amount at the start of the season and stick with it. The amount it totally up to you, but I personally don't like to adjust my unit amount mid season.
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                                                        • Andy3568
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 01-17-10
                                                          • 615

                                                          #413
                                                          Wow... The first "C" play (JM) of the season coming up on 11/19 (Capitals @ Maple Leafs).
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                                                          • oklahoma
                                                            SBR Wise Guy
                                                            • 11-22-10
                                                            • 602

                                                            #414
                                                            Originally posted by Andy3568
                                                            IMO, pick a unit amount at the start of the season and stick with it. The amount it totally up to you, but I personally don't like to adjust my unit amount mid season.
                                                            , ive been burned a few times changing units mid-season in the past. though i luckily never finished in the red after doing so I definitely finished with less than i could have.
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                                                            • jcygts6
                                                              SBR MVP
                                                              • 04-05-09
                                                              • 3316

                                                              #415
                                                              Washington didnt show up tonight. So dissapointed in them
                                                              DO WORK + KROW OD
                                                              do work! do work! do work! do work!
                                                              od krow! od krow! od krow! od krow!
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                                                              • TomJSports
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 08-31-11
                                                                • 1177

                                                                #416
                                                                Originally posted by Andy3568
                                                                Wow... The first "C" play (JM) of the season coming up on 11/19 (Capitals @ Maple Leafs).
                                                                Isles had a C play and lost. Unless you didn't play due to road record. Up 3-0 on Phoenix in that B game, too!

                                                                Originally posted by jcygts6
                                                                Washington didnt show up tonight. So dissapointed in them
                                                                Don't understand. Tough break on that. Had the o5.5, too. Washington in Toronto could be tough.
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                                                                • ElCapitan
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 08-19-08
                                                                  • 2129

                                                                  #417
                                                                  11/17 Results

                                                                  Originally posted by ElCapitan
                                                                  V1 Washington Capitals (B) ML -165 (3.60 to win 2.18) (5Dimes) *LOSS*
                                                                  V1 Washington Capitals (B) PL (fav, play ML) (3.60 to win 2.18) (5Dimes) *LOSS*

                                                                  V2 Play - tracking only

                                                                  V2 Detroit Red Wings (B) ML +125 (1.68 to win 2.1) (5Dimes) *LOSS*
                                                                  V2 Detroit Red Wings (B) PL -230 (4.83 to win 2.1) (5Dimes) *LOSS*

                                                                  Record:
                                                                  V1 ML: 13(A)-6(B)-2(C) (+4.41) SERIES: 11-1
                                                                  V1 PL: 13(A)-5(B)-0(C) (+7.22) SERIES: 12-0

                                                                  V2 ML: 16(A)-6(B)-1(C) (+14.25) SERIES: 15-0
                                                                  V2 PL: 16(A)-3(B)-1(C) (+9.27) SERIES: 15-0
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                                                                  • ElCapitan
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 08-19-08
                                                                    • 2129

                                                                    #418
                                                                    No plays for Friday, 11/18.
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                                                                    • roile
                                                                      SBR Rookie
                                                                      • 10-28-11
                                                                      • 8

                                                                      #419
                                                                      Now things are heating up, unfortunately. Two C bets ...(and an A) I'll be sitting in front of my computer all night to check the games live
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                                                                      • Win89
                                                                        SBR High Roller
                                                                        • 11-06-11
                                                                        • 157

                                                                        #420
                                                                        Hey guys how does everybody feel about these two C bets?
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