Injury ALERT!!! DEVILS -165 (3-0 on locks so far)

yisman · 04-21-10, 06:35 PM

Originally posted by mikemca

I know sir.He was saying if they played 20 the devils would win 12 which is foolish considering they played 10 and won 2.So the Devils would have to win 10 straight to make prediction correct.Its OK though your a devils fan I guess and it must suck.

Stop making stupid comments.

Winning 8 of 10 does not mean you'd win 16 of 20.

Using your brilliant logic, if a team beats another once, they'd win every game if they played 100 times.

I don't care what he said. You said two moronic things:

A)"the Devils would have 4 wins and 16 losses if they played 20."
B)"Its [sic] OK though your a devils fan I guess and it must suck."

mikemca · 04-21-10, 06:48 PM

LOL why are u getting so bent out of shape?I wasn't being serious saying they would duplicate the same results if 10 more games were played.I will be done with this thread though cause u are way to sensitive.

yisman · 04-21-10, 07:03 PM

Great. The "I was just joking" defense.

I'm glad that you decided now that you were joking.

OTL · 04-21-10, 07:15 PM

No play for me. I dont trust NJ not to lay down and get the series over in the next game. They looked pretty deflated in the post-game interviews.

KingKolzig · 04-21-10, 08:33 PM

thats like saying if a basketball team goes up 2-0 in the first 10 seconds then they will then go on to win the 500-0 cause of that pace. too small a sample. Philly is lucky to be up 3-1 and they are going to lose tomorrow and be in a tight game 6

KingKolzig · 04-21-10, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by mikemca

LOL why are u getting so bent out of shape?I wasn't being serious saying they would duplicate the same results if 10 more games were played.I will be done with this thread though cause u are way to sensitive.

you did mean what you said and it was stupid logic..............other than that i love the ppl in this thread who are saying that Philly will adjust or "step up" without these two all-stars. they wont. unless the devils take a bunch of penalties (like 6) then Philly will be toast this game. plus these 2 are mainstays on special teams which will cause more line shuffling...........this is like TB suddenly losing stamkos/stlouis or chicago losing Toews/Madden or Buffalo Roy/Vanek.......its very big.

TJ EasyStreet · 04-22-10, 10:58 AM

Carter out for two series and Gagne out for the playoffs. Shame, they are great players. You always want to see opposing players missing a game or two or getting dinged up, but nothing like this.

Fadeaway Kush · 04-22-10, 11:00 AM

lol

yisman · 04-22-10, 11:03 AM

Still almost no line movement. It's at -160 now.

pavyracer · 04-22-10, 11:19 AM

Each game is different because of circumstances and players involved. Always remember this disclaimer: "Past perfomance is not a guarantee of future results"

tblues2005 · 04-22-10, 11:29 AM

Devils should be a good bet tonight. I agree with you on this one.

EaglesPhan36 · 04-22-10, 11:40 AM

Lines indicate no one is over exaggerating their bets based on the injuries. The line is actually down slightly from where it opened, so the books set it about where it should have been due to injuries. No way this sniffs -225, I don't even think it goes as high as -180.

bruceBRUCEbruce · 04-22-10, 12:18 PM

flyers team defense and goaltending have been the difference thus far in this series.

and Jeff Carter came into the series with a broken foot already, and was very quiet the first 3 games.

this is far from a lock-the Flyers have been thoroughly outplaying the devils throughout this series, in almost every facet of the game.

TJ EasyStreet · 04-22-10, 01:00 PM

Lou went nuts and smashed a Smuckers jar against the wall and Kovy is guaranteeing victory.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/blog/puck_daddy/post/Devils-down-to-shattered-jelly-jars-Kovalchuk-v?urn=nhl,235979&post_comment=1&success=1

snipeshow23 · 04-22-10, 01:45 PM

found an interesting stat today....

Without Gagne (Oct. 27 through Nov. 17): 10-13-1, 2.5 goals/game
Without Carter (Mar. 23 through Apr. 6): 3-4-1, 2.4 goals/game
Both in the lineup: 28-18-4, 3.0 goals/game

The Flyers' goals/game avg. for the regular season was 2.8

Take it for what it is... Everyone knows the Devils have to win this game.

tblues2005 · 04-22-10, 01:58 PM

That is why I do like the Devils here snipeshow. They should win tonight's game.

bruceBRUCEbruce · 04-22-10, 02:51 PM

Chris Lee and Marc Joanette the refs tonight!

that means a steady march to the penalty box, early and often (and probably orange colored).

Masu485 · 04-22-10, 02:54 PM

liking the devils more now

KACK · 04-22-10, 02:59 PM

I agree Carter is a big loss for the Flyers but I'm not buying Gagne. I understand these are two key players but have you watched this series... Many other players on this Flyers team have stepped up the scoring... I feel this game is in on NJ... They're the ones that have to start scoring. If Kovochoke keeps trying to go end to end and not using his teamates then they will loss this game. I watch this series and this Philly defense is playing really good against this Devils offense. It's not like these offenses are lighting up these red lights often... I'm just not buying into this so called almost lock that Devils win this game... Good Luck guys... I'm staying away.. many more games to throw money on tonight.

cecil127 · 04-22-10, 03:47 PM

did i hear jimmy jackson say that gagne had scored more times on marty than any other player, ever? if thats true drop another vote in the "this game is gonna suck for the flyers tonight" box....

yisman · 04-22-10, 04:14 PM

Originally posted by cecil127

did i hear jimmy jackson say that gagne had scored more times on marty than any other player, ever? if thats true drop another vote in the "this game is gonna suck for the flyers tonight" box....

Yep.

Jagr had 17 against Marty, so Gagne passed him this season.

OTOH, check this save out from Game 4.

KingKolzig · 04-22-10, 04:18 PM

Originally posted by snipeshow23

found an interesting stat today....

Without Gagne (Oct. 27 through Nov. 17): 10-13-1, 2.5 goals/game
Without Carter (Mar. 23 through Apr. 6): 3-4-1, 2.4 goals/game
Both in the lineup: 28-18-4, 3.0 goals/game

The Flyers' goals/game avg. for the regular season was 2.8

Take it for what it is... Everyone knows the Devils have to win this game.

exactly. you cant just plug in carcillo or powe and expect world class speed/scoring touch

cruyff · 04-22-10, 04:19 PM

Guys trust me, the -170 it's sitting at now is garbage, if the Devil's get going they'll win by at least 2 or 3. If they don't, well they'll probably lose. Take the -1.5 and thank me in the morning.

snipeshow23 · 04-22-10, 04:21 PM

Originally posted by KingKolzig

exactly. you cant just plug in carcillo or powe and expect world class speed/scoring touch

agreed.... but carcillo is tied for the lead in goals for philly!

KingKolzig · 04-22-10, 04:28 PM

Originally posted by snipeshow23

agreed.... but carcillo is tied for the lead in goals for philly!

using a 5 game sample? why not use even less, like a single period. and whomever scores first is the next Wayne Gretzky

yisman · 04-22-10, 04:31 PM

Looks like I was right about the line.

It went up a little, but nothing close to -200.

KingKolzig · 04-22-10, 04:40 PM

Originally posted by yisman

Looks like I was right about the line.

It went up a little, but nothing close to -200.

im lucky you didnt offer me something like an over under of -193 cause i would have been on the over

snipeshow23 · 04-22-10, 04:43 PM

Originally posted by KingKolzig

using a 5 game sample? why not use even less, like a single period. and whomever scores first is the next Wayne Gretzky

i just think its ridiculous that he is even up there in goals, thats what i meant by my last post... he's playing with richards and a rookie laliberte tonight. hopefully a whole lot of minuses in that line!!

TJ EasyStreet · 04-22-10, 04:45 PM

Originally posted by snipeshow23

agreed.... but carcillo is tied for the lead in goals for philly!

Carcillo is a major problem for the Devils; he is Avery times ten. I've never seen a team so disinterested in moving bodies from in front of the crease. Goddamn you, Stevens! Come back!

That said, Carcillo is effective with 12 shifts, not twenty-plus so he is not replacing either of those two.

snipeshow23 · 04-22-10, 04:49 PM

i was at the game at MSG when avery was waving his stick in front of broduer... could be the most ridiculous thing ive ever seen at an nhl game.

mikemca · 04-22-10, 04:52 PM

Originally posted by yisman

Great. The "I was just joking" defense. I'm glad that you decided now that you were joking.

Originally posted by KingKolzig

you did mean what you said and it was stupid logic..............other than that i love the ppl in this thread who are saying that Philly will adjust or "step up" without these two all-stars. they wont. unless the devils take a bunch of penalties (like 6) then Philly will be toast this game. plus these 2 are mainstays on special teams which will cause more line shuffling...........this is like TB suddenly losing stamkos/stlouis or chicago losing Toews/Madden or Buffalo Roy/Vanek.......its very big.

I wasn't joking and I did mean what I said but not literally that they would win 16 out of 20 just that its hard to believe suddenly NJ is the far better team since Philly won 8 of 10.Are you guys really that narrow minded?BTW Past performance is a better indicator than I think they will win 12 games out of 20.

lakerboy · 04-22-10, 05:02 PM

they cant make the line -220 thats way too dangerous for the books.

TJ EasyStreet · 04-22-10, 05:19 PM

Originally posted by snipeshow23

i was at the game at MSG when avery was waving his stick in front of broduer... could be the most ridiculous thing ive ever seen at an nhl game.

Honestly, I have no problem with what he did. It is the NHL's fault and they knew it, hence the quick rule change. If they didn't completely gimp the players' ability to move opponents from in front, he wouldn't have lived long enough to pull that off.

Not that my boy Stevens would have given a shit about the rules. Crap do I miss him.

Edit: Your avatar fits any talk of Avery, by the way. Haven't heard that term since my two shift game in my last HS hockey game.

pat venditto · 04-22-10, 05:47 PM

Devils might be a solid play.

Thanks for the information.

I don't usually follow nhl too much.

OTL · 04-22-10, 06:01 PM

We'll see if Carcillo and Richards can stick a fork in the Devils.