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  • DennisGreen
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 11-27-08
    • 18369

    #3431
    Originally posted by swordsandtequila
    Boucher needed to go, players quit responding to him. You can blame the goaltending and the defense all you want (and our veteran defensemen are average at best), but truth be told our defensive system sucks, and has sucked. We give up the blue line too easy, we chase from side to side, and with the exception of the young guys don't hit or clear the crease. Watch a game, players take multiple swipes at pucks in the crease without getting knocked on their ass. I don't care how good the goaltender is, eventually your gonna give up goals. The young guys I referred to are the so called "Syracuse seven", they broke/set numerous records in the AHL last year, and there's more coming so the future looks bright, just not so much this year. Prior to Jeff Vinik (owner) and Yzerman we had no farm system, our scouting was poor at best. The previous regime (may they burn in hell) gutted the team and got nothing in return but cash in their pockets. And before I get trolled, I say "we" as a lifelong Tampa resident not because I think I'm part of the team. I do know some of the inside guys, our announcers, and the reason we have a team, Phil Esposito, so I'm not speaking out of my ass.
    Glad to hear there are some knowledgable Florida hockey fans out there! Guys like you must be a rare breed down there
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    • DennisGreen
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 11-27-08
      • 18369

      #3432
      1-2-1 -$263 on the day.

      2013 Overall Record

      130-123-6 +$1578.50

      LIVE BETS: 38-18 +$3352.50

      GRAND SALAMI: 2-1 +$300
      TOTALS: 30-29-5 +$242
      1ST PERIOD: 36-40 +$53
      MONEYLINES: 8-11 -$138

      REGULATION: 0-2 -$150

      2 TEAMERS: 3-8 -$472
      TEAM TOTALS: 13-14-1
      -$1609


      $50
      3-5 +$42.50


      68-71-3 +$273


      44-36-3 +$322


      10-10 -$1059


      5-1 +$2000
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      • hockey216
        SBR MVP
        • 08-20-08
        • 4583

        #3433
        how they goinng to adjust system?

        TB has no really good defensive players and their goaltender is poor. GM has done a poor job getting defensemen and goaltender. i don't think changing a coach will do a damn thing. the players go out their and play every night. they quit on their last few coaches (melrose, tortorella, boucher). i hate letting the players off the hook by firing good coaches. it's not always the coaches fault. get better defensemen, goaltenders. TB tried that offensive first mentality. failed them. boucher tried to change system to play better D. players wouldn't listen.
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        • swordsandtequila
          SBR Hall of Famer
          • 02-23-12
          • 9757

          #3434
          Originally posted by hockey216
          how they goinng to adjust system?

          TB has no good defensive players and their goaltender is terrible. GM has done a poor job getting defensemen and goaltender. i don't think changing a coach will do a damn thing. the players go out their and play every night. they quit on their last few coaches (melrose, tortorella, boucher). i hate letting the players off the hook by firing good coaches. it's not always the coaches fault. get better defensemen, goaltenders. TB tried that offensive first mentality. failed them. boucher tried to change system to play better D. players wouldn't listen.
          We'll just have to agree to disagree . As far as Yzerman, it takes more than a year or two to retool a franchise. And quality defensemen/goaltenders don't grow on trees. Look at the trade deadline, that's what the majority of teams are looking for. All I know is he and Vinik have re-energized the fan base, so I'm willing to give them time. Similar to what the baseball Rays went through, new ownership/management replaced sh*tty ownership and rebuilt the team from the ground up. Now they have one of the best farm systems in baseball and are competitive most years (on little money at best). For long term success I think it's better to build from within, adding a piece (free agents) here and there to fill the gaps. This owner shows he's not afraid to spend. Just a matter of time.


          On a side note, please don't include Melrose in your list of "good coaches", guy was a tool who didn't think Stamkos was ready to play. How'd that work out? Only reason he was hired was because our "hollywood" owners thought they'd make a splash. There's a reason he's back in the tv booth.
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          • swordsandtequila
            SBR Hall of Famer
            • 02-23-12
            • 9757

            #3435
            Originally posted by DennisGreen
            Glad to hear there are some knowledgable Florida hockey fans out there! Guys like you must be a rare breed down there
            DG you forget, most of the people down here are transplants from up there. Not me, but we're not all rednecks . I'm no expert by any means, I just watch my team. You guys know more about the other teams I'm sure.
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            • hockey216
              SBR MVP
              • 08-20-08
              • 4583

              #3436
              i'm tired of letting the players off the hook. TB players have quit on every single coach they've had. Time to stop rewarding them for quitting. Boucher yelled at them to play better defense a million times. Players refused to listen. Stupid offensive gamble mindset was a problem before he got there. He tried to change it. Players didn't listen. I'm tired of GM's letting the players off the hook and rewarding them for quitting. Hold the damn players accountable too.
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              • LetsGoBruins
                SBR High Roller
                • 10-01-11
                • 110

                #3437
                Originally posted by hockey216
                i'm tired of letting the players off the hook. TB players have quit on every single coach they've had. Time to stop rewarding them for quitting. Boucher yelled at them to play better defense a million times. Players refused to listen. Stupid offensive gamble mindset was a problem before he got there. He tried to change it. Players didn't listen. I'm tired of GM's letting the players off the hook and rewarding them for quitting. Hold the damn players accountable too.
                Agree - the team is made up of players. Yes, the coach ultimately fits them in different roles, however 1 coach a team does not make!
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                • swordsandtequila
                  SBR Hall of Famer
                  • 02-23-12
                  • 9757

                  #3438
                  Offensive gamble mindset? Quit on every single coach they've had? Like I said, we'll agree to disagree. Doesn't matter now, it's done. Me too.
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                  • atofsu32111
                    SBR MVP
                    • 02-18-08
                    • 2801

                    #3439
                    DG , how are boston -200? i figured id get some value b.c they are slumping and tor is solid. WTH lol
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                    • atofsu32111
                      SBR MVP
                      • 02-18-08
                      • 2801

                      #3440
                      Reimer must be a allstar wtf
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                      • DennisGreen
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 11-27-08
                        • 18369

                        #3441
                        Monday Play

                        DET/PHO Over 5.5 (+126)
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                        • retard
                          SBR MVP
                          • 01-04-13
                          • 1331

                          #3442
                          Originally posted by atofsu32111
                          DG , how are boston -200? i figured id get some value b.c they are slumping and tor is solid. WTH lol

                          We got away with one I love watching the shootouts in slow motion
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                          • atofsu32111
                            SBR MVP
                            • 02-18-08
                            • 2801

                            #3443
                            Thank god leafs suc at shoutout!
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                            • atofsu32111
                              SBR MVP
                              • 02-18-08
                              • 2801

                              #3444

                              Originally posted by retard
                              We got away with one I love watching the shootouts in slow motion
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                              • N.C.truebet77
                                SBR High Roller
                                • 02-28-12
                                • 223

                                #3445
                                Boston moneyline and under 5.5...yes, 3 more teams left to hit my 5 teamer...Preds moneyline, Hawks moneyline and Ducks -1.5
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                                • DennisGreen
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 11-27-08
                                  • 18369

                                  #3446
                                  0-1 -$100 on the night. Can't believe the over 5.5 didn't hit in PHO after that start

                                  2013 Overall Record

                                  130-124-6 +$1478.50

                                  LIVE BETS: 38-18 +$3352.50

                                  GRAND SALAMI: 2-1 +$300
                                  TOTALS: 30-30-5 +$142
                                  1ST PERIOD: 36-40 +$53
                                  MONEYLINES: 8-11 -$138

                                  REGULATION: 0-2 -$150

                                  2 TEAMERS: 3-8 -$472
                                  TEAM TOTALS: 13-14-1
                                  -$1609


                                  $50
                                  3-5 +$42.50


                                  68-72-3 +$173


                                  44-36-3 +$322


                                  10-10 -$1059


                                  5-1 +$2000
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                                  • hockey216
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 08-20-08
                                    • 4583

                                    #3447
                                    Originally posted by N.C.truebet77
                                    Boston moneyline and under 5.5...yes, 3 more teams left to hit my 5 teamer...Preds moneyline, Hawks moneyline and Ducks -1.5
                                    5 teamers are so hard to hit. esp if you have pucklines -1.5.
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                                    • DennisGreen
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 11-27-08
                                      • 18369

                                      #3448
                                      Tuesday Plays

                                      NYR/PHI Over 1.5 (1st) (+123)

                                      CAL/CHI Over 1.5 (1st) (-104)

                                      CHI -0.5 (-109)

                                      NYI/WAS Over 5.5 (+104)

                                      FLA/TOR Under 5.5 (-114)

                                      Nothing that really warrants a big play that I see, so flat betting tonight and gonna trust my instincts
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                                      • atofsu32111
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 02-18-08
                                        • 2801

                                        #3449
                                        Anyone see Pit losing? Yea Mtl is good but Pitt way better
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                                        • DennisGreen
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 11-27-08
                                          • 18369

                                          #3450
                                          LIVE BET: WPG/CAR Over 5.5 (+110) [14:55]
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                                          • atofsu32111
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 02-18-08
                                            • 2801

                                            #3451
                                            unreal panther game 1-1 to 3-2 in 7min 'WTF
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                                            • DennisGreen
                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                              • 11-27-08
                                              • 18369

                                              #3452
                                              Holy fcuk I'm running bad today

                                              Might seriously never bet another Tuesday again.
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                                              • atofsu32111
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 02-18-08
                                                • 2801

                                                #3453
                                                Its like you out read the public hit this panther under and looking good. And you dont get rewarded. I always seem to bet the unders that are so tough and never get a easy one damn
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                                                • atofsu32111
                                                  SBR MVP
                                                  • 02-18-08
                                                  • 2801

                                                  #3454
                                                  cmon 5 more minutes and no e.n!
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                                                  • atofsu32111
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 02-18-08
                                                    • 2801

                                                    #3455
                                                    Winner!!!!!!
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                                                    • DennisGreen
                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                      • 11-27-08
                                                      • 18369

                                                      #3456
                                                      Well at least that under held

                                                      Pissed about the NYI/WAS over it was 3-2 late and 2-2 after 2 but couldn't buy a 2 goal 3rd.

                                                      That WPG/CAR game was an absolute shooting gallery I'm shocked it stayed under with 35+ shots a piece.
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                                                      • DennisGreen
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 11-27-08
                                                        • 18369

                                                        #3457
                                                        LIVE BET: NYR/PHI Over 5.5 (+110) [15:40]
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                                                        • DennisGreen
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 11-27-08
                                                          • 18369

                                                          #3458
                                                          That was fast weeeeee!

                                                          Now snipe some more goals Hawks!
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                                                          • DennisGreen
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 11-27-08
                                                            • 18369

                                                            #3459
                                                            There we go, keep that Chelsea Dagger coming
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                                                            • DennisGreen
                                                              SBR Posting Legend
                                                              • 11-27-08
                                                              • 18369

                                                              #3460
                                                              3-4 -$94 on the day.

                                                              2013 Overall Record
                                                              133-128-6 +$1384.50

                                                              LIVE BETS: 39-19 +$3362.50

                                                              GRAND SALAMI: 2-1 +$300
                                                              TOTALS: 31-31-5 +$142
                                                              REGULATION: 1-2 -$50
                                                              MONEYLINES: 8-11 -$138
                                                              1ST PERIOD: 36-42 -$151
                                                              2 TEAMERS: 3-8 -$472
                                                              TEAM TOTALS: 13-14-1
                                                              -$1609


                                                              $50
                                                              3-5 +$42.50


                                                              71-76-3 +$79


                                                              44-36-3 +$322


                                                              10-10 -$1059


                                                              5-1 +$2000
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                                                              • hockey216
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 08-20-08
                                                                • 4583

                                                                #3461
                                                                Let's go BRUINS. i hate montreal. it's the best, oldest rivalry in hockey. been battling each other in the playoffs 80 years.
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                                                                • DennisGreen
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 11-27-08
                                                                  • 18369

                                                                  #3462
                                                                  Originally posted by hockey216
                                                                  Let's go BRUINS. i hate montreal. it's the best, oldest rivalry in hockey. been battling each other in the playoffs 80 years.
                                                                  Should be a beauty. I am thinking of going against the grain and taking the over tonight. My gut just tells me it's a 4-3 type of game.
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                                                                  • DennisGreen
                                                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                                                    • 11-27-08
                                                                    • 18369

                                                                    #3463
                                                                    Wednesday Plays

                                                                    MTL/BOS Over 5 (-113)

                                                                    MTL/BOS Over 1.5 (1st) (+126)
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                                                                    • atofsu32111
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 02-18-08
                                                                      • 2801

                                                                      #3464
                                                                      Damn was hoping youd be on under ha. Boston been a first period under machine i think
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                                                                      • DennisGreen
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 11-27-08
                                                                        • 18369

                                                                        #3465
                                                                        Originally posted by atofsu32111
                                                                        Damn was hoping youd be on under ha. Boston been a first period under machine i think
                                                                        Under definitely makes sense so no shame in playing it honestly. My gut is telling me we have a shootout tonight with MTL struggling to score lately and BOS hitting unders like mad their last few weeks.

                                                                        Both teams are definitely due for some goals. Here's to hoping it turns into a gang war out there like some of their past meetings
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