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  • thechaoz
    SBR Posting Legend
    • 10-23-09
    • 12154

    #176
    Originally posted by mpaschal34
    Not to pile on Astro....ok, it is a pile on. He joined LT’s 3rd league using points from this league.

    Whereas people with their own points were left out.

    I have a good feeling we’ve seen the last of Astro.
    Fml... What a waste of time.. Put so much effort into this league. I wonder if there is any precedent with sbr awarding points from an account?
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    • JAKEPEAVY21
      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
      • 03-11-11
      • 29294

      #177
      Originally posted by thechaoz
      Sigh.... I thought he was a well established member so I trusted... Too bad I didn't crush LTs instead.

      Been getting hit from all angles lately... Hopefully hell return and make it right.

      I wish sbr could intervene for this contest. We're they the one providing the gift card?

      I remember him ripping me how much of a a scum I was for slow playing around the bubble in the tourney.

      Come back and make it right ASTRO. No hard feelings bro. Life happens
      Originally posted by mpaschal34
      Not to pile on Astro....ok, it is a pile on. He joined LT’s 3rd league using points from this league.

      Whereas people with their own points were left out.

      I have a good feeling we’ve seen the last of Astro.
      it's hard to gauge whether he got buried in point debt and bailed or if something might have happened to him off the forum?? He has shown enough over the years for me to give him the benefit of the doubt but it's not looking promising since he hasn't logged in for months.
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      • Marigold HD
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 09-03-07
        • 5053

        #178
        Ive been in his pools before. He always pays out. I always trusted him and will continue to do so.
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        • mpaschal34
          SBR Posting Legend
          • 02-04-13
          • 12087

          #179
          Originally posted by Marigold HD
          Ive been in his pools before. He always pays out. I always trusted him and will continue to do so.
          marigold....i think things are different this time. i sent several emails to his personal email account via ESPN and it's been crickets. i believe i found his account on facebook because it references the astros and fantasy football accomplishments in 2016. however the last post there was from nov 6th (about the same time here). although it's not as he posts that much.

          i checked death records and arrest records and nothing came up. so i guess it's a wait and see at this point.
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          • thechaoz
            SBR Posting Legend
            • 10-23-09
            • 12154

            #180
            Originally posted by Marigold HD
            Ive been in his pools before. He always pays out. I always trusted him and will continue to do so.
            Yeah I'm thinking something came up in his personal life.

            The one thing, other than not logging in, that is worrisome is pasch mentioned he just our points for another league (which I was also in)

            Maybe he had enough free roll etc he figured it was no biggie.

            You don't just be an sbr member for ten years then suddenly stop. Hope he's ok
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            • JAKEPEAVY21
              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
              • 03-11-11
              • 29294

              #181
              Originally posted by thechaoz
              Yeah I'm thinking something came up in his personal life.

              The one thing, other than not logging in, that is worrisome is pasch mentioned he just our points for another league (which I was also in)

              Maybe he had enough free roll etc he figured it was no biggie.

              You don't just be an sbr member for ten years then suddenly stop. Hope he's ok
              shaunovery did because he was buried in point debt...

              not sure what to think anymore..
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              • USCPHILLYGUY
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 12-15-12
                • 21746

                #182
                no horse in this race other than friends that are owed points but hoping the guys ok

                does he have a point balance from 11/6? Any major purchases?

                guess you should always have a co commish when it comes to these type of things
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                • khicks26
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 09-16-06
                  • 45630

                  #183
                  Well his last wavier move in this league was on Dec 3, so he was active up till then.

                  He kind of disappeared in last years league also. But did return in the end. But he also won the league last year.

                  My gut tells me he will come back sooner or later. But it will take a while to pay off his debt. He seems like an honorable guy to me anyway.
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                  • thechaoz
                    SBR Posting Legend
                    • 10-23-09
                    • 12154

                    #184
                    Originally posted by khicks26
                    Well his last wavier move in this league was on Dec 3, so he was active up till then.

                    He kind of disappeared in last years league also. But did return in the end. But he also won the league last year.

                    My gut tells me he will come back sooner or later. But it will take a while to pay off his debt. He seems like an honorable guy to me anyway.
                    Well I don't know if he has anything in the book, but his points now are almost enough to pay off the first place prize (not sure who was doing the red Robin gift card him /sbr?)

                    The rest of the prizes should be manageable to make up for if he's short, so it's not like he's buried up to his gills. He hasn't logged in since early November so hopefully he's OK. Maybe some work /family shit went down.

                    Patiently waiting
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                    • khicks26
                      SBR Aristocracy
                      • 09-16-06
                      • 45630

                      #185
                      Originally posted by thechaoz
                      Well I don't know if he has anything in the book, but his points now are almost enough to pay off the first place prize (not sure who was doing the red Robin gift card him /sbr?)

                      The rest of the prizes should be manageable to make up for if he's short, so it's not like he's buried up to his gills. He hasn't logged in since early November so hopefully he's OK. Maybe some work /family shit went down.

                      Patiently waiting
                      About all we can do. Unless SBR steps in. I'm due 2500 pts. If & when he comes back, I don't have a problem waiting to be paid.

                      I think the Red Robbin card was just something he threw in. Maybe to get people to play.
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                      • convick
                        SBR MVP
                        • 11-03-11
                        • 3954

                        #186
                        Originally posted by khicks26
                        Well his last wavier move in this league was on Dec 3, so he was active up till then.

                        He kind of disappeared in last years league also. But did return in the end. But he also won the league last year.

                        My gut tells me he will come back sooner or later. But it will take a while to pay off his debt. He seems like an honorable guy to me anyway.
                        He was making moves in the two sbr leagues up until wk 13, so he was around.
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                        • mpaschal34
                          SBR Posting Legend
                          • 02-04-13
                          • 12087

                          #187
                          Originally posted by convick
                          He was making moves in the two sbr leagues up until wk 13, so he was around.
                          with this data and the fact he has gone unresponsive to emails to his ESPN account....i think he is gone.

                          if SBR did step in, they should pay out in %'s owed. we'd need someone to dig into the weekly winners too. i know he owe's me 1000 points (750 for 3rd place and 250 for a weekly high point).
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                          • thechaoz
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 10-23-09
                            • 12154

                            #188
                            Originally posted by mpaschal34
                            with this data and the fact he has gone unresponsive to emails to his ESPN account....i think he is gone.

                            if SBR did step in, they should pay out in %'s owed. we'd need someone to dig into the weekly winners too. i know he owe's me 1000 points (750 for 3rd place and 250 for a weekly high point).
                            Yeah I'm ok with this. Also there may be points in their book we don't know about as well.
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                            • convick
                              SBR MVP
                              • 11-03-11
                              • 3954

                              #189
                              Originally posted by thechaoz
                              Yeah I'm ok with this. Also there may be points in their book we don't know about as well.
                              Has a few.

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                              • thechaoz
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 10-23-09
                                • 12154

                                #190
                                Originally posted by convick
                                It's been a brutal year. Finally something good happens then this. I leaned my lesson. No more player not officially sponsored by sbr.

                                Lost 2500 to the stupid ass bowl rules, this contest, other shit. Very disappointing
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                                • thechaoz
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 10-23-09
                                  • 12154

                                  #191
                                  Who can I contact from sbr?
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                                  • mpaschal34
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 02-04-13
                                    • 12087

                                    #192
                                    not sure who the best person to contact is.

                                    sad thing is, this was the league that almost did not go off. looking back, i guess it would have been better to never even have started.
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                                    • JAKEPEAVY21
                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                      • 03-11-11
                                      • 29294

                                      #193
                                      Originally posted by thechaoz
                                      It's been a brutal year. Finally something good happens then this. I leaned my lesson. No more player not officially sponsored by sbr.

                                      Lost 2500 to the stupid ass bowl rules, this contest, other shit. Very disappointing
                                      I feel for you the the others in this league that are owed points...

                                      let's be honest though, the college bowl contest was your fault and your's alone...

                                      Astro owes a lot of points to people he made bets with on the 2017 poker leaderboard as well, so it wouldn't be fair for sbr to garnish his points to pay off this league and leave the rest high and dry. Technically, the poker wagers were made months before this league started, so the poker bets should be paid first if anything. That said, I doubt sbr would get involved anyhow.
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                                      • USCPHILLYGUY
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 12-15-12
                                        • 21746

                                        #194
                                        Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                        I feel for you the the others in this league that are owed points...

                                        let's be honest though, the college bowl contest was your fault and your's alone...

                                        Astro owes a lot of points to people he made bets with on the 2017 poker leaderboard as well, so it wouldn't be fair for sbr to garnish his points to pay off this league and leave the rest high and dry. Technically, the poker wagers were made months before this league started, so the poker bets should be paid first if anything. That said, I doubt sbr would get involved anyhow.
                                        when's the last time astro posted? Doesn't he live in Florida? Maybe we can get Fire to send down his cleaning lady and see whats going on

                                        in all seriousness though...hoping the guy is ok....deff out of character but so was taking others points and joining league 3
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                                        • JAKEPEAVY21
                                          BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                          • 03-11-11
                                          • 29294

                                          #195
                                          Originally posted by USCPHILLYGUY
                                          when's the last time astro posted? Doesn't he live in Florida? Maybe we can get Fire to send down his cleaning lady and see whats going on

                                          in all seriousness though...hoping the guy is ok....deff out of character but so was taking others points and joining league 3
                                          he has been gone for months now but someone said he made a waiver move or something on Dec 3rd..

                                          hope he is ok, but the waiver move he made a month ago makes me wonder...
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                                          • mpaschal34
                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                            • 02-04-13
                                            • 12087

                                            #196
                                            I’ve never seen SBR step in on a situation like this before....so I doubt they will here either. We took the risk of letting someone hold our points. So they are not to blame. If they do get involved great, if not I understand.
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                                            • JAKEPEAVY21
                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                              • 03-11-11
                                              • 29294

                                              #197
                                              Originally posted by mpaschal34
                                              I’ve never seen SBR step in on a situation like this before....so I doubt they will here either. We took the risk of letting someone hold our points. So they are not to blame. If they do get involved great, if not I understand.
                                              lots of troubling behavior recently by numerous longtime trusted sbr pros...

                                              makes you really think twice before jumping into anything on here going forward..
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                                              • thechaoz
                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                • 10-23-09
                                                • 12154

                                                #198
                                                Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                lots of troubling behavior recently by numerous longtime trusted sbr pros...

                                                makes you really think twice before jumping into anything on here going forward..
                                                Yeah I'm done. Only official contests for more on. So ASTRO is much more buried than we thought. I put too much time into this league and had a killer team even in reserves.

                                                I understand the bowl thing is "my fault" but the rules for submitting picks are fuckin stupid and unlike any other contest they run.

                                                Def not playing that shit anymore. I had so many offers to team up, too bad I didn't take them up on their offers
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                                                • mpaschal34
                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                  • 02-04-13
                                                  • 12087

                                                  #199
                                                  I’m not done completely with these leagues. I still find them pretty fun because of the smack talk on the boards. As long as they aren’t significant points, there’s only so much you can lose.

                                                  I do recall feeling a red flag warning though when Astro used this leagues points to join another league. Knowing that he already had given up on poker by that time I wondered how he would get enough points to pay everyone back. Should have been more vocal about it then.
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                                                  • ApricotSinner32
                                                    Restricted User
                                                    • 11-28-10
                                                    • 10648

                                                    #200
                                                    Originally posted by mpaschal34
                                                    I’m not done completely with these leagues. I still find them pretty fun because of the smack talk on the boards. As long as they aren’t significant points, there’s only so much you can lose.

                                                    I do recall feeling a red flag warning though when Astro used this leagues points to join another league. Knowing that he already had given up on poker by that time I wondered how he would get enough points to pay everyone back. Should have been more vocal about it then.
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                                                    • JAKEPEAVY21
                                                      BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                      • 03-11-11
                                                      • 29294

                                                      #201
                                                      Originally posted by mpaschal34
                                                      I’m not done completely with these leagues. I still find them pretty fun because of the smack talk on the boards. As long as they aren’t significant points, there’s only so much you can lose.

                                                      I do recall feeling a red flag warning though when Astro used this leagues points to join another league. Knowing that he already had given up on poker by that time I wondered how he would get enough points to pay everyone back. Should have been more vocal about it then.
                                                      agreed, I'll still play in some but the points must be held by a select few...
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                                                      • thechaoz
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 10-23-09
                                                        • 12154

                                                        #202
                                                        Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                                        agreed, I'll still play in some but the points must be held by a select few...
                                                        The only way I'd even consider them is if we had an escrow like LT.
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                                                        • thechaoz
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 10-23-09
                                                          • 12154

                                                          #203
                                                          Originally posted by mpaschal34
                                                          I’m not done completely with these leagues. I still find them pretty fun because of the smack talk on the boards. As long as they aren’t significant points, there’s only so much you can lose.

                                                          I do recall feeling a red flag warning though when Astro used this leagues points to join another league. Knowing that he already had given up on poker by that time I wondered how he would get enough points to pay everyone back. Should have been more vocal about it then.
                                                          No worries, I guess maybe asking him at the time or "calling him out" would of been good, but it's all hind sight.

                                                          I don't track other guys points /contests so I never would of noticed this. I had seen ASTRO as a long time member so I never imagined he was shifty, or if he was, how many guys would of joined before me in the contest.

                                                          Not to sound like a dick, but if it's not for significant points I don't even want too waste my time. I played for "fun" when I was a broke kid.

                                                          The only reason I joined was to 1k league was because I had never done an auction before (I'm actually not a degen and cautious)

                                                          Turns out I'm really good at them, especially the game of the draft. It's kind of like poker.

                                                          Live and learn. Maybe some day he'll make it right
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                                                          • spider
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 05-21-11
                                                            • 11378

                                                            #204
                                                            FACTS
                                                            =====

                                                            *** on 10/21 astro had 8403 pts and renewed pro for 3k

                                                            *** last login at SBR 3 weeks later at 11/2. balance 5238

                                                            *** marigold and I made payments to astro . balance 6113.

                                                            current balance : 6113
                                                            sportsbook : 360
                                                            rollover poker : not/available


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                                                            first of all I hope he is ok. obviously something happened on 11/3 and hasn't logged in since then. he's not the type to run off, he's always paid his loans in advance and is an honorable guy.
                                                            if he intended to run off, why would he renew 3k in end of october, why would he leave
                                                            another 6k in the account plus sportsbook 360 + rollover pts.
                                                            It doesn't add up,
                                                            as for poker bets I didn't add them up, he had 1k with me , 1k with jake I think, plus some others, not something to disappear.

                                                            --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                                            *** the red robin gift card was his own and not sponsored by SBR.

                                                            *** SBR NEVER gets involved in private "disputes" or redistribution of funds.

                                                            ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                                            Hope he's well and comes back soon!
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                                                            • unde0087
                                                              BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                                                              • 03-27-08
                                                              • 28952

                                                              #205
                                                              Originally posted by spider
                                                              FACTS
                                                              =====

                                                              *** on 10/21 astro had 8403 pts and renewed pro for 3k

                                                              *** last login at SBR 3 weeks later at 11/2. balance 5238

                                                              *** marigold and I made payments to astro . balance 6113.

                                                              current balance : 6113
                                                              sportsbook : 360
                                                              rollover poker : not/available


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                                                              first of all I hope he is ok. obviously something happened on 11/3 and hasn't logged in since then. he's not the type to run off, he's always paid his loans in advance and is an honorable guy.
                                                              if he intended to run off, why would he renew 3k in end of october, why would he leave
                                                              another 6k in the account plus sportsbook 360 + rollover pts.
                                                              It doesn't add up,
                                                              as for poker bets I didn't add them up, he had 1k with me , 1k with jake I think, plus some others, not something to disappear.

                                                              --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                                              *** the red robin gift card was his own and not sponsored by SBR.

                                                              *** SBR NEVER gets involved in private "disputes" or redistribution of funds.

                                                              ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                                              Hope he's well and comes back soon!
                                                              I agree Spider, it doesn't add up at all. Wish I had his number to see if he is okay. Something big must have happened. I know you can't always no someone completely but I don't see Astro just cutting out. If stiffing everyone was his plan it makes zero sense that he renewed his status. He could have just used the 8k on bitcoin and then peaced out on everyone. Hope the dude is alright.
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                                                              • thechaoz
                                                                SBR Posting Legend
                                                                • 10-23-09
                                                                • 12154

                                                                #206
                                                                Originally posted by spider
                                                                FACTS
                                                                =====

                                                                *** on 10/21 astro had 8403 pts and renewed pro for 3k

                                                                *** last login at SBR 3 weeks later at 11/2. balance 5238

                                                                *** marigold and I made payments to astro . balance 6113.

                                                                current balance : 6113
                                                                sportsbook : 360
                                                                rollover poker : not/available


                                                                ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                                                first of all I hope he is ok. obviously something happened on 11/3 and hasn't logged in since then. he's not the type to run off, he's always paid his loans in advance and is an honorable guy.
                                                                if he intended to run off, why would he renew 3k in end of october, why would he leave
                                                                another 6k in the account plus sportsbook 360 + rollover pts.
                                                                It doesn't add up,
                                                                as for poker bets I didn't add them up, he had 1k with me , 1k with jake I think, plus some others, not something to disappear.

                                                                --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                                                *** the red robin gift card was his own and not sponsored by SBR.

                                                                *** SBR NEVER gets involved in private "disputes" or redistribution of funds.

                                                                ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

                                                                Hope he's well and comes back soon!
                                                                He made transactions and waiver claims in our league into December, so about a month after his last log in here he was still active.

                                                                We all know this place is addicting, and you like to get your daily log ins in. I'm not judging anyway, but maybe his return was based on the league results. I can't remember how well he was doing.

                                                                Regardless, I hope he's OK and literally all is forgiven if you're reading this ASTRO. I'm not a broke dikk but I put it a lot of time and finally won my first league so I was so excited.

                                                                Calling a spade a spade, he's not dead and at the very least he could come in and explain himself and not leave us hanging. This is our money, time, effort and it's not fair to anyone here.

                                                                Hope you're OK
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                                                                • Cross
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 04-15-11
                                                                  • 5777

                                                                  #207
                                                                  This is crazy. I also think something must have happened to him. He owes me 500 points on a poker bet, but health comes first before a few betpoints for sure.
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                                                                  • Marigold HD
                                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                    • 09-03-07
                                                                    • 5053

                                                                    #208
                                                                    Originally posted by Cross
                                                                    This is crazy. I also think something must have happened to him. He owes me 500 points on a poker bet, but health comes first before a few betpoints for sure.
                                                                    I agree
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                                                                    • thechaoz
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 10-23-09
                                                                      • 12154

                                                                      #209
                                                                      Originally posted by Cross
                                                                      This is crazy. I also think something must have happened to him. He owes me 500 points on a poker bet, but health comes first before a few betpoints for sure.
                                                                      All we know is that he made claims in the league a month after his last log in here
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                                                                      • mpaschal34
                                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                                        • 02-04-13
                                                                        • 12087

                                                                        #210
                                                                        i reached out to someone who had commented on his posts on facebook (there weren't many from what i was allowed to see since we aren't friends). the guy got a hold of one of his family members and said he was in florida. no tragic reports or anything like that.

                                                                        i asked him to confirm with them that he is alright.....we will see.
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