Pags' Plays 10/4

**tonyxit** · 09-30-09, 12:24 PM

Pags discipline

Pags..I have been silently watching,following,and learning from your posts...discipline is probably the most valuable thing I have picked up...I sure ain't perfect but have gotten better...I used to bet the ESPN weeknight games...just cause they were there......most of those games are the equal to a reformed drunk...finding a bottle of Aqua Velva he forgot about....Thanks for your sharing your effort and skill

**tonyxit** · 09-30-09, 12:29 PM

Originally posted by cakasmaloy

PAGS, why dont you play the MAC?

Aqua Velva

**cashflow50** · 09-30-09, 01:43 PM

pags..do you still see value in taking cal at +5...voice got lucky and got 6.5..that number will never surface again imo...added that rb johnson got hurt..oh well bol this week bud!!!!

**Dbldown11** · 09-30-09, 01:53 PM

Hey Pags, it's been a while. I've got a huge lean on a game tonight that no one is talking about and I'm trying to see if there is something I'm missing, so I figured I'd come and ask you what your thoughts are.

I'm LOVING Idaho at home +3.5 against Colorado St. I see no reason for Colorado St. to be favored on the road against a team that has played very solid this year in Idaho. Am I missing anything? I know Idaho is not a sexy pick so not many people will look at the game, but from my experience the un-sexy games are where the easy money lies. Any thoughts?

**bfour** · 09-30-09, 04:27 PM

Love all the Pac-10 plays Pags, get to watch those teams a lot, very impressed by those teams regardless of what happened to Cal last week.... they are completely different at home.... also time for Miami to step up after last week. Also like fading Notre Dame every week.... those lines are super inflated considering the simple fact that they play most of those teams every year.

Also did you know Bob Stoops eats his cereal off of a plate? Thats because if it was in a bowl he would lose it!

**polishkielbasa10** · 09-30-09, 05:22 PM

I don't know Pags but have followed his picks cause of all this Hype. And I have gotten Rolled. His picks suck. Thank god I went opposite on the last 3 to salvage something. Just food for thought

**DBaseball23** · 09-30-09, 05:35 PM

Originally posted by polishkielbasa10

I don't know Pags but have followed his picks cause of all this Hype. And I have gotten Rolled. His picks suck. Thank god I went opposite on the last 3 to salvage something. Just food for thought

2008 54-39 w/l, +46.0 units

2007 50-35-5 w/l, +35.5 units

Yeah he sucks.....

Cant wait for Pags to really heat up...

**polishkielbasa10** · 09-30-09, 06:50 PM

Originally posted by DBaseball23

2008 54-39 w/l, +46.0 units

2007 50-35-5 w/l, +35.5 units

Yeah he sucks.....

Cant wait for Pags to really heat up...

He's got great writeups which make u feel better when u lose I guess...that's what u mean. But I've followed him for 2 weeks and gotten killed. Not to mention several other people calling him out. Best of luck though

**Cougar Bait** · 09-30-09, 06:58 PM

polish you'll continue to get killed if you fade him the next 4 or 5 weeks. Love the Washington play the most out of all. Took SMU and UCLA purely because they were posted plays. I like Toledo and Clemson this week...but laid off Navy and Auburn...BOL Pags!

**ShawnVanCover** · 09-30-09, 07:08 PM

I locked in on all pags plays...he's going to bounce back bigtime.

**daneblazer** · 09-30-09, 07:39 PM

Good luck this week

**LT Profits** · 09-30-09, 08:02 PM

Originally posted by Richkas

Pags LOL, keep the fades coming.

I actually like all 5 of his picks on Page 1.

**sirwinzalot** · 09-30-09, 11:06 PM

Polishkielbasa,

I hope you like not having a pot to piss in when you fade Pags over the next couple of weeks. I have personally worked with the man for over 2 years, and you are playing with fire here. There is a reason he scales his bets throughout the year, and this is a 2.5 unit a play week. We are hitting the Pags wheelhouse right now where he is much more likely to go 6-1 than 3-4. This guy is an animal, he records every single game that is televised and watches all of them, and not only does he watch them he reads between the lines. This is a prime week when he is in a groove; If you look at all of his plays the market has moved strongly in the direction of his plays, and I am not surprised as again this is the time of the year that he has seen each of these teams play 3 or better times and has a good feel on these teams.

Another poster posted his record the last 2 years, and I think you should heed that if you like your money. Going against Pags right now is akin to going against Warren Buffett in the market after he has had a down stretch. The cream always rises to the top. Dude if you would pull your head out of your ass and use that pea sized brain you have you would realize there is a reason that his threads get in the neighborhood of 10k views every week. I guess he gets these views because people love to lose money. Further, if you are all knowing why don't you post your plays here? I am pretty sure I know why you don't, because you know everyone would be doing this

. So run along and leave this forum to the winners, because you obviously are not one.

**pags11** · 09-30-09, 11:17 PM

seaborneq,

GL, no picks are too easy though...you know that already...

xyzky,

cakasmaloy,

the conference is tough to get a feel for...

ElCapitan,

I like the three games a lot more at the numbers I posted them...GL

tonyxit,

you're welcome...

cashflow50,

good grab on Cal...I made fair value for the game 4 and that was before Johnson was injured...

Dbldown11,

I really like the Woolridge kid from Idaho he's a beast, but I don't have an opinion on the game...

bfour,

good stuff, thanks for your thoughts and your comedy...

polishkielbasa10,

you are obviously a ghost...either that or you've never gambled...either of which you are a piece of shit...if you have never lost three weeks in a row betting football then you haven't bet...take your sorry ghosting ass out of my thread and tell whatever tout you are working for to shove it up his ass!

DBaseball23,

Cougar Bait,

ShawnVanCover,

appreciate it...

daneblazer,

GL

LT Profits,

hope the touting business is going well...

**pags11** · 09-30-09, 11:20 PM

sirwinzalot,

you are a good man sir and part of all of the success we have had over the years...thank you...

**SlickRick24** · 09-30-09, 11:46 PM

pags,

I'd love to get your take on how you evaluate out of conference matchups. For instance, this week's Oklahoma/Miami game. It's tough to get a feel sometimes for a game that matches up teams from different conferences since the styles of play are different. Big Ten schools look great playing each other but they get killed oftentimes in bowl games.

Appreciate your thoughts.

**KingKing** · 10-01-09, 12:09 AM

pags, thank you for sharing the pick, being so straight forward when giving opinions/non opinions/leans to posters who ask! best of luck...........................

**KingKing** · 10-01-09, 12:12 AM

Originally posted by sirwinzalot

Polishkielbasa,

I hope you like not having a pot to piss in when you fade Pags over the next couple of weeks. I have personally worked with the man for over 2 years, and you are playing with fire here. There is a reason he scales his bets throughout the year, and this is a 2.5 unit a play week. We are hitting the Pags wheelhouse right now where he is much more likely to go 6-1 than 3-4. This guy is an animal, he records every single game that is televised and watches all of them, and not only does he watch them he reads between the lines. This is a prime week when he is in a groove; If you look at all of his plays the market has moved strongly in the direction of his plays, and I am not surprised as again this is the time of the year that he has seen each of these teams play 3 or better times and has a good feel on these teams.

Another poster posted his record the last 2 years, and I think you should heed that if you like your money. Going against Pags right now is akin to going against Warren Buffett in the market after he has had a down stretch. The cream always rises to the top. Dude if you would pull your head out of your ass and use that pea sized brain you have you would realize there is a reason that his threads get in the neighborhood of 10k views every week. I guess he gets these views because people love to lose money. Further, if you are all knowing why don't you post your plays here? I am pretty sure I know why you don't, because you know everyone would be doing this

. So run along and leave this forum to the winners, because you obviously are not one.

pags for putting in the time capping games and for sharing... many thanks!

**TheSystem** · 10-01-09, 01:27 AM

Originally posted by polishkielbasa10

He's got great writeups which make u feel better when u lose I guess...that's what u mean. But I've followed him for 2 weeks and gotten killed. Not to mention several other people calling him out. Best of luck though

Really? I've followed him for the same amount of time......and I can tell the guy has forgotten more about capping than losers like you will ever know. By the way, I had my mom flip a coin for her picks the last 2 weeks and she went 16-4......wanna tail her the rest of the season?

Get lost dude. Pags, I didn't have to be on this board 10 min. to realize you're the man to listen to. To hell with these wannabe's, lets BANK this weekend brother!

**pags11** · 10-01-09, 01:53 AM

KingKing,

you're welcome sir...

TheSystem,

great points...thanks and GL...

**puggie** · 10-01-09, 01:59 AM

Polish....bet your own games, put your time in..nobody is forcing you to follow pags. I'm sure he'd love you to fade him...hell, I want you to fade him. I parlayed his picks for a 6 to 1 pay out last week and have made thousands off of him in the last 2 years. If you have ever played football before you know to be in the positive at all takes extreme work....which he does. I do nothing and cash just by taking his research with my gut. Sure you will have losing weeks...that's part of sports gambling. If you don't like it then suck it...or just stay and talk trash because then I know I will cash...Karma sez so! Please stay and talk alot!!!!!

**pags11** · 10-01-09, 02:33 AM

puggie,

suck it...that's funny stuff...degeneration x style bro...appreciate you being real man...word...

**puggie** · 10-01-09, 02:37 AM

I am old skool pags...represent! Haters need to "suck it" or talk to the hand...lol! But seriously, just fade or don't follow...why open your mouth...makes no sense...other then to put a spot light on themselves and say "look at me!!!"
Obviously neglected as children.

**pags11** · 10-01-09, 02:41 AM

completely agree...posting all of this info. is very time consuming, as you are well aware, and it pisses me off when guys who don't post their plays come in and say "Oh I was 6-1 last week" when we all know they are full of shit...at any rate you see things much like I do...

**clowncar** · 10-01-09, 02:52 AM

I think I have finally figured out the different types of people who come in to bash pags.

1. The insanely jealous. Those are the people who are envious of either his college football knowledge , the fact that he has a legion of followers or the fact that he has a documented history of success.

2. The average internet troll. Those are the people who just like stirring the pot to get a reaction. The trolls usually seek out the threads with the most views to cause disturbance.

3. The inexperienced and impatient. Those are the people who have not gambled much in their life yet. They are the people who don't understand concepts like fluctuation , standard deviations , and positive expectation. They are the people who panic after being behind after just thirty bets or so.

4. The insecure. Those are the people who cheer for others to fail because they cannot succeed themselves. They cannot attain the level of success they want for themself so they try to bring those who are more successful down to their level.

5. People who just don't like pags. Those are the people who have been rubbed the wrong way by pags somewhere along the line. They are the people who have not had the pleasure of meeting him or talking to him outside of an internet forum.

6. People trying to make a name for themself.

Nice smackdown btw , big k.

Best of luck this week, pags.

**puggie** · 10-01-09, 02:55 AM

buddy...I've tried it alone...it's not good. Things that seem so obvious too me don't pan out when we are dealing with 18 year old kids...like Pitt...do you be for them or against them...how can a team play so good at home and be so horrendous away. Plus..I'm an OSU graduate...the real OSU...Oregon State University. How can we look like a high school team last year against Penn State and comeback a few weeks later and beat USC...it's crazy...hard to predict! Oh....and beat Pitt in the bowl 3-0 with a RBI single in the 4th quarter...this shit is crazy! Your research gives that little edge and I appreciate it no matter what these douchebags say!

**pags11** · 10-01-09, 03:00 AM

clowncar,

thank you my veteran vegas friend...

puggie,

**puggie** · 10-01-09, 03:02 AM

Pags..you ever make it to vegas?

**fadethepublic1** · 10-01-09, 03:02 AM

Originally posted by pags11

completely agree...posting all of this info. is very time consuming, as you are well aware, and it pisses me off when guys who don't post their plays come in and say "Oh I was 6-1 last week" when we all know they are full of shit...at any rate you see things much like I do...

I really went 5-1 LW. And that's the truth! hehehe. You know guys like us gotta stick together bro. Even though we have great weeks like last week, we don't have to let he world know. That's why I don't make my own threads & post plays officially cuz there are always haters, no matter how nice & cool you are to people. Aloha from Hawaii.

BTW bro, keep on keepin on!

**pags11** · 10-01-09, 03:23 AM

thanks fade...I'd like to go out to your homeland one day...maybe spend a college football saturday out there sometime...GL this week...

**fadethepublic1** · 10-01-09, 03:26 AM

Originally posted by pags11

thanks fade...I'd like to go out to your homeland one day...maybe spend a college football saturday out there sometime...GL this week...

If you are ever planning on visiting the island of Oahu, then I would be more than happy to show you around or at least give you the hot spots to visit, stay or sightsee. It's nice April to October, then Winter hits us. Hawaiian Snow = Rain. Hahaha. We could even check out a UH game, but wouldn't wanna torcher you like that. LmAo. Aloha from Hawaii.

**pags11** · 10-01-09, 03:30 AM

fade, I love Hawaii games...I listen to all late night games on the internet radio even when I don't have plays on the game...remember staying up late when Marshall Faulk went out there many years ago...will stay in touch, that would be fun to go out there one day...aloha...

**Bread** · 10-01-09, 07:03 AM

Is this the week you rip the lid off it, Pagsy Baby!??!? I'm thinking of putting the mother lode on these plays.

**StogieMan** · 10-01-09, 08:40 AM

Hey pags,

Just found your thread, was reading history of you all nite long, love your style.
Your posts are great, am I correct in that it appears you publish your posts after thurs nite game, or do you put posts on Sat games maybe before Thursday game?
I'm gonna give pag's train a ride....

-StogieMan

**blackbeSSt** · 10-01-09, 09:00 AM

Originally posted by StogieMan

Hey pags,

Just found your thread, was reading history of you all nite long, love your style.
Your posts are great, am I correct in that it appears you publish your posts after thurs nite game, or do you put posts on Sat games maybe before Thursday game?
I'm gonna give pag's train a ride....

-StogieMan

his picks have already been made in the early pages of this thread. his write up's on said games will come prolly later today or tomorrow.