Sideloaded's killing you with kindness mma picks

[gabe]

Nunya, get in touch w me off sbr. Talk through twitter or emails or whatever, gonna stop using this forum again but wanna keep in touch.

To rest, no I'm not "threatening to leave" - I just find most of you to be dumb and dull. I might return if I need a new meat loaf recipe, but for MMA- nothing to gain here. Can't even enjoy regular discussion. More times than I have fingers, I've been laughed at on this forum for plays that ended up cashing.

MD is an annoying turd who kisses V's ass and vice-versa but he's only of the few whos really big plays I pay attention to.

[Vaughany]

[Dwil125]

Nunya, get in touch w me off sbr. Talk through twitter or emails or whatever, gonna stop using this forum again but wanna keep in touch.

To rest, no I'm not "threatening to leave" - I just find most of you to be dumb and dull. I might return if I need a new meat loaf recipe, but for MMA- nothing to gain here. Can't even enjoy regular discussion. More times than I have fingers, I've been laughed at on this forum for plays that ended up cashing.

MD is an annoying turd who kisses V's ass and vice-versa but he's only of the few whos really big plays I pay attention to.

[Vaughany]

lol

[sideloaded]

for some reason that sac guy is pm'ing saying MD is technically correct. Is this the twilight zone? WTF?

No, you didn't. I just proved that. How can you make a full Kelly wager with your Kelly bankroll if it can be recovered? Did you factor in how much your kidneys are worth? How about how much you can steal?

Give it up. Pay up or welsh, bruhv.

What the f-ck is this?

[PunisherIND]

for some reason that sac guy is pm'ing saying MD is technically correct. Is this the twilight zone? WTF?




What the f-ck is this?

sacko has completely lost his marbles.

[Educ8d Degener8]

Sider, is your bet small, small to moderate, moderate, moderate to large, or large?

That should suffice as more than adequate info regarding your Mcmann wager...

[MD]

sacko has completely lost his marbles.

You think I'm wrong here? That is surprising.

Anyway, Sider, stop pretending to be stupid. I don't even care about the SBR points, I'm just proving a point, but pretending not to understand is a bit sad.

[NunyaBidness]

Ok. Well, that settles our bet then. The only remaining step is defining "losing your Kelly bankroll".

To make it simple for you, to lose your Kelly bankroll implies infinitely recurring negative utility. In layman's terms, a true Kelly bankroll cannot be regained through any means. None. Once you lose your Kelly bankroll, you cannot regain it.

Points plz.

Sophist.

[NunyaBidness]

Nunya, get in touch w me off sbr.

I don't tweet homes.

Don't leave me here with all these booger eating morons.

[MD]

Nunya, get in touch w me off sbr. Talk through twitter or emails or whatever, gonna stop using this forum again but wanna keep in touch.

To rest, no I'm not "threatening to leave" - I just find most of you to be dumb and dull. I might return if I need a new meat loaf recipe, but for MMA- nothing to gain here. Can't even enjoy regular discussion. More times than I have fingers, I've been laughed at on this forum for plays that ended up cashing.

MD is an annoying turd who kisses V's ass and vice-versa but he's only of the few whos really big plays I pay attention to.

I hope you don't leave, you're a cool guy for the most part. You should stop assuming I have something against you because I argue with you though. I argue with Sider and he's my best friend IRL.

[PunisherIND]

You think I'm wrong here? That is surprising.

Anyway, Sider, stop pretending to be stupid. I don't even care about the SBR points, I'm just proving a point, but pretending not to understand is a bit sad.

I don't think you're wrong. I actually don't want to get involved in the merits of your argument with sider, primarily because I don't think I have enough knowledge of the subject. Which is exactly why I said sacko lost his marbles.

[Vaughany]

I don't tweet homes.

Don't leave me here with all these booger eating morons.

Gaberz trying to poach Nunya from the posse!

[MD]

Respectable. If you're at all interested in the subject (which isn't as silly as our argument makes it seem) you should check out the link I posted. In depth history of Kelly as we know it, along with some clarifications on the formula. Some of Ganch's best work.

[Beelzebubzy]

Gabe you need to be a mod

[Hannibal]

pedantic
pe·dan·tic

adjective
1.ostentatious in one's learning.

2.overly concerned with minute details or formalisms, especially in teaching.

3. MD

[sideloaded]

Except MD is a complete f-cking moron who links to ganch's posts and thinks he has f-cking clue about something. Dumb mother f-cker cant see the difference between using a full kelly multiplier and betting his whole kelly BR.

[Hannibal]

Respectable. If you're at all interested in the subject (which isn't as silly as our argument makes it seem) you should check out the link I posted. In depth history of Kelly as we know it, along with some clarifications on the formula. Some of Ganch's best work.

what link?

[sideloaded]

Gabe you need to be a mod

this, whoever is the mma mod delete this thread

[sideloaded]

Call me a welsh when your bet needs proof from me to even grade, when I told I wasn't going to divulge that info. I say I made a full kelly bet. You have no way to prove I didn't.

Just explain to me and everyone how or why I would need to replace my entire kelly BR when I said I made a bet with a ten percent edge using full kelly at -600. I want to see the math on this one.

[MD]

what link?

http://forum.sbrforum.com/handicapper-think-tank/60052-when-alright-go-all-p2.html#post603617

Look for Ganchrow's posts. If you have any interest in the Kelly criterion, I'd highly recommend this, and pretty much all of his posts, if you like gambling theory in general.

Call me a welsh when your bet needs proof from me to even grade, when I told I wasn't going to divulge that info. I say I made a full kelly bet. You have no way to prove I didn't.

Just explain to me and everyone how or why I would need to replace my entire kelly BR when I said I made a bet with a ten percent edge using full kelly at -600. I want to see the math on this one.

Uh, no, it doesn't need proof from you to grade. Just out of curiosity, does anyone else reading this think that I'm saying Sider will lose his entire bankroll if Sara McMann loses? I think it's pretty clear what I'm saying, I explained it simply. It's certainly pedantic, but I'm right. Did anyone else think the same thing, or did you understand? Let me know, thanks. I wasn't originally going to bother replying further, as I don't really care about the points, but just in case there is some confusion, I'll clear it up. Hopefully someone reading learns a bit about the term "Kelly bankroll" and its differences to the conventional "bankroll".

Anyway, you won't need to replace your entire Kelly bankroll. I'll explain this comprehensively for you, once more, so that your ignorance-feigning will not allow you to cover for the fact that you're welshing on this bet.

I wagered that you were not making a full Kelly criterion bet using your Kelly bankroll. You stated that you were. A Kelly bankroll is different to what most would consider a bankroll, as it is the sum of all of your assets. In this case, "all of your assets" is extremely comprehensive. It includes the funds that could be gained from selling your kidney, for a Ganchrow example. A Kelly bankroll is utterly irretrievable once lost. Losing your Kelly bankroll means limitless negative utility; it cannot be regained under any circumstances. Having total assets equivalent to $0.01 may imply that you're practically broke, but until you hit absolute zero with no way of recovering, you have not exhausted your Kelly bankroll. You suggested that your bankroll is equivalent to your entire net worth, which isn't quite right. I asked you how long it would take you to recover your bankroll once lost; you told me you could get it back in a few days with a signature, whatever that means. Thus, it is impossible that the wager you made is with your Kelly bankroll. I wagered you that you were not making a full Kelly wager from your Kelly bankroll. So, for example, if your Kelly bankroll was $100 and your edge was 10%, and you were wagering on McMann at -600, a full Kelly wager using your Kelly bankroll would be $60. However, you are not using your Kelly bankroll (which is the sum of all of your possibly obtainable assets), you are using a different definition of the term "bankroll", because the bankroll with which you are making the full Kelly wager can be regained with time. It does not encompass the entirety of your assets.

I hope it's obvious to everyone reading that Sider's bankroll, which he is using for his McMann bet, does not meet the criteria for a Kelly bankroll.

Anyway, I don't really care if you have anything to say in reply, Sider, I just wanted to show you that you're not as clever as you think you are, and calling me an idiot every opportunity you get, even for simply 'capping a fight differently to you, will get you nowhere when you can be so easily outsmarted. Welsh away, buddy.

[Educ8d Degener8]

MD - are you a wife by chance?

[sideloaded]

http://forum.sbrforum.com/handicappe...tml#post603617

Look for Ganchrow's posts. If you have any interest in the Kelly criterion, I'd highly recommend this, and pretty much all of his posts, if you like gambling theory in general.



Uh, no, it doesn't need proof from you to grade. Just out of curiosity, does anyone else reading this think that I'm saying Sider will lose his entire bankroll if Sara McMann loses? I think it's pretty clear what I'm saying, I explained it simply. It's certainly pedantic, but I'm right. Did anyone else think the same thing, or did you understand? Let me know, thanks. I wasn't originally going to bother replying further, as I don't really care about the points, but just in case there is some confusion, I'll clear it up. Hopefully someone reading learns a bit about the term "Kelly bankroll" and its differences to the conventional "bankroll".

Anyway, you won't need to replace your entire Kelly bankroll. I'll explain this comprehensively for you, once more, so that your ignorance-feigning will not allow you to cover for the fact that you're welshing on this bet.

I wagered that you were not making a full Kelly criterion bet using your Kelly bankroll. You stated that you were. A Kelly bankroll is different to what most would consider a bankroll, as it is the sum of all of your assets. In this case, "all of your assets" is extremely comprehensive. It includes the funds that could be gained from selling your kidney, for a Ganchrow example. A Kelly bankroll is utterly irretrievable once lost. Losing your Kelly bankroll means limitless negative utility; it cannot be regained under any circumstances. Having total assets equivalent to $0.01 may imply that you're practically broke, but until you hit absolute zero with no way of recovering, you have not exhausted your Kelly bankroll. You suggested that your bankroll is equivalent to your entire net worth, which isn't quite right. I asked you how long it would take you to recover your bankroll once lost; you told me you could get it back in a few days with a signature, whatever that means. Thus, it is impossible that the wager you made is with your Kelly bankroll. I wagered you that you were not making a full Kelly wager from your Kelly bankroll. So, for example, if your Kelly bankroll was $100 and your edge was 10%, and you were wagering on McMann at -600, a full Kelly wager using your Kelly bankroll would be $60. However, you are not using your Kelly bankroll (which is the sum of all of your possibly obtainable assets), you are using a different definition of the term "bankroll", because the bankroll with which you are making the full Kelly wager can be regained with time. It does not encompass the entirety of your assets.

I hope it's obvious to everyone reading that Sider's bankroll, which he is using for his McMann bet, does not meet the criteria for a Kelly bankroll.

Anyway, I don't really care if you have anything to say in reply, Sider, I just wanted to show you that you're not as clever as you think you are, and calling me an idiot every opportunity you get, even for simply 'capping a fight differently to you, will get you nowhere when you can be so easily outsmarted. Welsh away, buddy.

wow a bunch of words, not one math equation showing why my BR would be completely gone after i USE FULL KELLY WITH A 10% EDGE AT -600.YOU ARE THE REASON I LEFT SBR.

[sideloaded]

where are my god damn points md? you f_cking welshing piece of shit! pay me!

[MD]

wow a bunch of words, not one math equation showing why my BR would be completely gone after i USE FULL KELLY WITH A 10% EDGE AT -600.YOU ARE THE REASON I LEFT SBR.

It wouldn't be. You're literally pretending I'm saying that so that you don't have to address the fact that you lost a bet. Biggest welsh of all time.

Also lol @ left SBR. Fifth time this month.

[sideloaded]

Originally Posted by MD
No, you didn't. I just proved that. How can you make a full Kelly wager with your Kelly bankroll if it can be recovered? Did you factor in how much your kidneys are worth? How about how much you can steal?

Give it up. Pay up or welsh, bruhv.

YOU JUST SAID YOU PROVED I WOULD NEED TO RECOVER MY ENTIRE BANKROLL AFTER ONE FULL KELLY BET. YOU MAKE NO GOD DAMN SENSE.

PAY ME BITCH!

[MD]

Originally Posted by MD
No, you didn't. I just proved that. How can you make a full Kelly wager with your Kelly bankroll if it can be recovered? Did you factor in how much your kidneys are worth? How about how much you can steal?

Give it up. Pay up or welsh, bruhv.

YOU JUST SAID YOU PROVED I WOULD NEED TO RECOVER MY ENTIRE BANKROLL AFTER ONE FULL KELLY BET. YOU MAKE NO GOD DAMN SENSE.

PAY ME BITCH!

No, I said that you can't be making a full Kelly bet with your Kelly bankroll if your bankroll can be recovered were you to lose it.

Pretends to be stupid to welsh on bets. It's like the opposite of Gabe, who pretends to be smart and then claims he didn't even make the bets. Can't make this shit up.

[gabe]

[gabe]

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[sideloaded]

no, i said that you can't be making a full kelly bet with your kelly bankroll if your bankroll can be recovered were you to lose it.

Pretends to be stupid to welsh on bets. It's like the opposite of gabe, who pretends to be smart and then claims he didn't even make the bets. Can't make this shit up.

i wouldnt need to recover 100% only 65%

[sideloaded]

oh and I really am DONE With sbr because MD ruined my thread. I post at another forum now. THIS IS the last post. MD Shit all the thread some more. I dont give a f-ck.

[MD]

oh and I really am DONE With sbr because MD ruined my thread. I post at another forum now. THIS IS the last post. MD Shit all the thread some more. I dont give a f-ck.

I'll never stop laughing at how seriously some people take the internet. Never.

[gabe]

oh and I really am DONE With sbr because MD ruined my thread. I post at another forum now. THIS IS the last post. MD Shit all the thread some more. I dont give a f-ck.

Same user name? I'm gonna make an account too but dunno what name to go with

[TheCrow]

oh and I really am DONE With sbr because MD ruined my thread. I post at another forum now. THIS IS the last post. MD Shit all the thread some more. I dont give a f-ck.

i need that new forum #SaraMcmannU2.5

[sideloaded]

i need that new forum #SaraMcmannU2.5

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