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  • Vaughany
    SBR Aristocracy
    • 03-07-10
    • 45563

    #106
    Originally posted by NunyaBidness
    I think the best way to cap fights is to open the highlight videos of both guys at the same time and then make my decision. Sometimes, I overlap the windows to make it seem like they are fighting each other.
    haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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    • Vaughany
      SBR Aristocracy
      • 03-07-10
      • 45563

      #107
      Also, the recent death of Benoist's brother wasn't mentioned in the podcast...if I was backing Benoist I'd be a bit concerned that he hasn't perhaps had the best of camps and might not be in the best of mental states. But then again maybe he'll come in like a man possessed and destroy Seth in honour of his brother!
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      • NunyaBidness
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 07-26-09
        • 9345

        #108
        Originally posted by Vaughany
        Also, the recent death of Benoist's brother wasn't mentioned in the podcast...if I was backing Benoist I'd be a bit concerned that he hasn't perhaps had the best of camps and might not be in the best of mental states. But then again maybe he'll come in like a man possessed and destroy Seth in honour of his brother!

        Why? Was Seth the one who killed him?
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        • Luca Fury
          SBR MVP
          • 05-10-12
          • 1136

          #109
          Originally posted by Vaughany
          Also, the recent death of Benoist's brother wasn't mentioned in the podcast...if I was backing Benoist I'd be a bit concerned that he hasn't perhaps had the best of camps and might not be in the best of mental states. But then again maybe he'll come in like a man possessed and destroy Seth in honour of his brother!
          That's because the news hadn't spread until later in the week, while we recorded earlier in the week. Now that it's well known, I am worried about my bet on Benoist. He looked softer at the weigh ins this time than he did last time too. Oh, well... What can you do? I still like him to win.
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          • Vaughany
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 03-07-10
            • 45563

            #110
            Originally posted by NunyaBidness
            Why? Was Seth the one who killed him?
            hahah maybe
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            • Vaughany
              SBR Aristocracy
              • 03-07-10
              • 45563

              #111
              Originally posted by Luca Fury
              That's because the news hadn't spread until later in the week, while we recorded earlier in the week. Now that it's well known, I am worried about my bet on Benoist. He looked softer at the weigh ins this time than he did last time too. Oh, well... What can you do? I still like him to win.
              oh right fair enough, I heard about it weeks ago (not tht it's a competition) so jus thought one of u might of heard about it! And yeah he did look quite soft, but it's not like ur betting on him as a big favourite or anything
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              • JAKEPEAVY21
                BARRELED IN @ SBR!
                • 03-11-11
                • 29294

                #112
                Originally posted by Luca Fury
                In terms of what style I like to watch or what style I favor in terms of picks/bets?

                As for what i like watching, like most, I find wrestlers to be less exciting than other styles. Although, I don't hate wrestlers.

                In terms of favoring wrestlers, it all depends on the style matchup. I do find that wrestlers are usually the best guys to bet on, though. I've cashed on so many underdogs who were good wrestlers with the ability to grind out their opponents, going against a guy who is a dangerous striker or BJJ guy. However, I don't have a bias towards them or anything. I just find that the wrestling style matches up the best with other styles most of the time. A guy can be worse on the feet and in BJJ, yet still win. Plus, judges are biased towards wrestlers. If I think fight is a total coin flip and I really can't decide, I'll usually lean towards the wrestler slightly since they can dictate where the fight takes place.

                That said, I've also bet against overvalued wrestlers many times. All depends on the style matchup. I still to this day cannot believe Jose Aldo was only -220 against Chad Mendes. That's a fight Aldo wins 99/100 times.
                thanks, I was just curious if you had a bias..
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                • Luca Fury
                  SBR MVP
                  • 05-10-12
                  • 1136

                  #113
                  Originally posted by Vaughany
                  oh right fair enough, I heard about it weeks ago (not tht it's a competition) so jus thought one of u might of heard about it! And yeah he did look quite soft, but it's not like ur betting on him as a big favourite or anything
                  Really? I didn't hear about it until Friday. I admit, though, I haven't been on top of MMA news as much as usual this week thanks to tennis. So much to bet on, so little time for research/study.
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                  • MMAbetMASTA
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-24-11
                    • 1931

                    #114
                    Originally posted by Imsmarterthanu
                    You know who else was a part time fighter ?

                    Rocky Balboa

                    and look how far he got in the sport, the guy used to work at a meat factory during the day and then fight during the night, he ended up winning the heavyweight title in 86 against Drago.

                    Also don't forget Bert Rogers also a part time fighter, the rest of the time he changed tires at sears ended up knocking out Arolvsky for the strikeforce championships
                    LOL...
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                    • JAKEPEAVY21
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                      • 03-11-11
                      • 29294

                      #115
                      Luca..you keep mentioning how Silva is untested and tonight should answer a few unknowns regarding him...What about Brenneman? Has he ever fought anyone as dangerous as Silva on the ground? Looking at his past fights, I'd say no..
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                      • gabe
                        SBR Hall of Famer
                        • 09-12-11
                        • 7405

                        #116
                        Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                        Luca..you keep mentioning how Silva is untested and tonight should answer a few unknowns regarding him...What about Brenneman? Has he ever fought anyone as dangerous as Silva on the ground? Looking at his past fights, I'd say no..
                        Ninja Roberts, although a purple belt, is probably as dangerous or more-- we'll see--
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                        • JAKEPEAVY21
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                          • 03-11-11
                          • 29294

                          #117
                          I watched the fight you said that silva gassed in and he didn't look as bad as i thought and still managed a sub early in round 3...I think this could be Brenneman's fate if he gets Silva down..
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                          • JAKEPEAVY21
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                            • 03-11-11
                            • 29294

                            #118
                            Originally posted by gabe
                            I'd say Ninja Roberts is more dangerous than Silva on the ground. But we'll see...
                            What fights do you like tonight, gabe? only strong picks...I'm not the type to talk shit either if they lose, curious on who you're on tonight?
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                            • gabe
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 09-12-11
                              • 7405

                              #119
                              Even if Benoist was 100% prepared, Seth B still more than likely takes him.
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                              • gabe
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 09-12-11
                                • 7405

                                #120
                                Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                What fights do you like tonight, gabe? only strong picks...I'm not the type to talk shit either if they lose, curious on who you're on tonight?
                                papazian, martinez, seth b, jorgensen, neer, couple others
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                                • Luca Fury
                                  SBR MVP
                                  • 05-10-12
                                  • 1136

                                  #121
                                  Originally posted by JAKEPEAVY21
                                  Luca..you keep mentioning how Silva is untested and tonight should answer a few unknowns regarding him...What about Brenneman? Has he ever fought anyone as dangerous as Silva on the ground? Looking at his past fights, I'd say no..
                                  Originally posted by gabe
                                  Ninja Roberts, although a purple belt, is probably as dangerous or more-- we'll see--
                                  This. Daniel Roberts is a VERY talented grappler, a better one than Erick. Brenneman avoided all his sub and sweep attempts without too much trouble. Sure, Silva has some sub wins on his record, but against complete nobodies.
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                                  • Vaughany
                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                    • 03-07-10
                                    • 45563

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by Luca Fury
                                    Really? I didn't hear about it until Friday. I admit, though, I haven't been on top of MMA news as much as usual this week thanks to tennis. So much to bet on, so little time for research/study.
                                    Sherdog forums do come in useful sometimes!... http://www.sherdog.net/forums/f2/ufc...erday-2075487/
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                                    • blumpkin
                                      SBR Sharp
                                      • 06-16-11
                                      • 359

                                      #123
                                      anybody have a link to luca fury podcast?? or where i can find it?
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                                      • Luca Fury
                                        SBR MVP
                                        • 05-10-12
                                        • 1136

                                        #124
                                        Originally posted by blumpkin
                                        anybody have a link to luca fury podcast?? or where i can find it?
                                        iTunes: buff.ly/JlmUX9

                                        YouTube: buff.ly/LzYGwR

                                        Or on MMAOddsBreaker.com: buff.ly/LqVKUN
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                                        • blumpkin
                                          SBR Sharp
                                          • 06-16-11
                                          • 359

                                          #125
                                          Thanks Luca you da man..
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                                          • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                            • 03-11-11
                                            • 29294

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by gabe
                                            papazian, martinez, seth b, jorgensen, neer, couple others
                                            thanks
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                                            • DirtyX
                                              SBR Wise Guy
                                              • 06-05-11
                                              • 686

                                              #127
                                              Originally posted by Luca Fury
                                              Daniel Roberts is better a BJJ than Erick and Charlie was able to stifle all of his sub and sweep attempts in a 15 minute ground fight. Also, Silva fades badly, so it will be even easier for Brenneman to avoid his subs the longer the fight goes.



                                              You're missing BY FAR the most important Erick Silva fight.

                                              Part 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8VEIhewc-FE

                                              Part 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F92I9AhkMVE

                                              Watch that, and everyone will understand why I bet Brenneman. This is his 4th most recent fight (more recent than those), and since then, he's only fought for a combined 2 minutes. Here, he showed poor takedown defense vs a guy who is not even good wrestler, let alone on Brenneman's level, as well as terrible cardio. Sure, he got a sweep at one point, but the guy he was facing doesn't have the base Charlie does, and even when he got to mount from it, Erik couldn't do anything with it.

                                              That is the single most important fight of Silva's for tape study relating to the fight tomorrow.

                                              Thanks man. I am thinking I might have to buy out of my bet now.. Silva looked terrible in that fight, and it wasn't even in a cage, which I think helps wrestlers even more.
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                                              • as99
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 03-25-10
                                                • 1585

                                                #128
                                                I've put a decent amount on Brenneman now. You also have to understand that grinding out Rick Story (solid wrestler) is not an easy task. What I like about Brenneman - much tougher competition, better wrestling, better cardio and a lot of heart. Brenneman will not be intimidated by Silva. If he gets Silva down early, I believe Silva will gas and his KO power is neutralized for the most part.
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                                                • Beelzebubzy
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 06-06-11
                                                  • 6995

                                                  #129
                                                  Originally posted by as99
                                                  I've put a decent amount on Brenneman now. You also have to understand that grinding out Rick Story (solid wrestler) is not an easy task. What I like about Brenneman - much tougher competition, better wrestling, better cardio and a lot of heart. Brenneman will not be intimidated by Silva. If he gets Silva down early, I believe Silva will gas and his KO power is neutralized for the most part.
                                                  Story has poor tdd
                                                  Brennamans best career moment is beating Hendricks in round 1
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                                                  • sirchadwick1
                                                    SBR MVP
                                                    • 06-02-10
                                                    • 1375

                                                    #130
                                                    Mean losing to Hendricks in rd 2?

                                                    Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                                    Story has poor tdd
                                                    Brennamans best career moment is beating Hendricks in round 1
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                                                    • as99
                                                      SBR MVP
                                                      • 03-25-10
                                                      • 1585

                                                      #131
                                                      Originally posted by Beelzebubzy
                                                      Story has poor tdd
                                                      Brennamans best career moment is beating Hendricks in round 1
                                                      Better TDD than Silva with a better wrestling pedigree.
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                                                      • GunShard
                                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                                        • 03-05-10
                                                        • 10031

                                                        #132
                                                        Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                        haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
                                                        You lost money on Velasquez. I won money on Dos Santos. And yet you laugh that my tactic.

                                                        It's about making money, if I use an unorthodox way to win and it works, there should be no complaints.
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                                                        • Vaughany
                                                          SBR Aristocracy
                                                          • 03-07-10
                                                          • 45563

                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by GunShard
                                                          You lost money on Velasquez. I won money on Dos Santos. And yet you laugh that my tactic.

                                                          It's about making money, if I use an unorthodox way to win and it works, there should be no complaints.
                                                          How often has it worked tho? Do u not think tht it could of been coincidence? U wer saying tht Dos Santos has a better camp then Cain because Cain trains with Bader and Dolloway (which he doesnt). Yes u happened to get it right tht time, but Im not so sure judging fights based on highlights will work out for u in the long term
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                                                          • GunShard
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 03-05-10
                                                            • 10031

                                                            #134
                                                            Originally posted by Vaughany
                                                            How often has it worked tho? Do u not think tht it could of been coincidence? U wer saying tht Dos Santos has a better camp then Cain because Cain trains with Bader and Dolloway (which he doesnt). Yes u happened to get it right tht time, but Im not so sure judging fights based on highlights will work out for u in the long term
                                                            Of course watching the full fight videos is the better way to see how fighters perform. I watch both highlight videos and full fight videos.
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                                                            • Vaughany
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 03-07-10
                                                              • 45563

                                                              #135
                                                              Fair enough thn...ur more than covered!
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                                                              • Kaladarus
                                                                SBR MVP
                                                                • 11-11-09
                                                                • 1876

                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by GunShard
                                                                Of course watching the full fight videos is the better way to see how fighters perform. I watch both highlight videos and full fight videos.
                                                                I prefer just using wikipedia, but whatever works best for each person.
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                                                                • Educ8d Degener8
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 01-12-10
                                                                  • 3177

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                                  Why? Was Seth the one who killed him?
                                                                  Nunya droppin the humor bombs with those last two posts... bringin' his A-game on fight night.
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                                                                  • Crassus
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 01-08-12
                                                                    • 1538

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by Luca Fury
                                                                    This. Daniel Roberts is a VERY talented grappler, a better one than Erick. Brenneman avoided all his sub and sweep attempts without too much trouble. Sure, Silva has some sub wins on his record, but against complete nobodies.
                                                                    Ballsy claim against a BJJ blackbelt who trains with Jacare Souza. Granted no idea where he got the BB.
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                                                                    • JAKEPEAVY21
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                                                                      • 03-11-11
                                                                      • 29294

                                                                      #139
                                                                      got the chicken kabobs on the grill and the beer flowing
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                                                                      • JerseyRobby
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 12-14-11
                                                                        • 1494

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Nice call I loaded up on Silva and thought he would win inside the distance not like that but I'll take it.
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