UFC 146: Dos Santos vs. Mir

[Kaladarus]

how high can the Gonzaga line go nearing +200, i'm gonna fade Nelson

I'm thinking the same thing here. Only disadvantage Gonzaga has is his chin. I think he can hold his own and put the pressure if Nelson doesn't get a quick KO.

[Kaladarus]

Whats the most anyone has put on a fight? Percentage wise to bankroll

Thinking of doing 20% on JDS inside or by KO

Depends on the line, but if you can get 20% of your bankroll on a prop without significantly changing the line I say go for it.

[The Fobfather]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cyY81...e_gdata_player

Always good stuff from NicktheFace. Almost made me forget how one sided it is going to be.

[Digo]

Whats the most anyone has put on a fight? Percentage wise to bankroll

Thinking of doing 20% on JDS inside or by KO

You can go 20% on JDS by TKO/KO or inside the distance, the best thing Mir can do is to fake an injury and leave this fight, JDS will destroy him with no mercy. It's one of the most predictable fights of the last 12 months.

[Beelzebubzy]

CAin -400 Bookmaker
Big Foot +420 5dimes

[Vitooch]

Will Cain pull a Hominick and fall off the wagon?

[PunisherIND]

Will Cain pull a Hominick and fall off the wagon?

not even close to being the same situation. hominick was never a top 5 guy to begin with. i mean, a split decision over leonard garcia and a tko of george roop and he's suddenly a title contender?

[Vitooch]

I suppose your right. Hominick looked very sharp against Roop, a fighter who KTFO the Korean Zombie and is of a similar skill level to Yagin.

With that being said, what has Koch done to earn a title shot? Beat Jonathan Brookins? Was there another fight after that that I am forgetting?

[PunisherIND]

I suppose your right. Hominick looked very sharp against Roop, a fighter who KTFO the Korean Zombie and is of a similar skill level to Yagin.

With that being said, what has Koch done to earn a title shot? Beat Jonathan Brookins? Was there another fight after that that I am forgetting?

i dont think koch has earned a title shot either. clearly the division is lacking depth. this is why they really wanted edgar to move down and face aldo.

[Vaughany]

Yep, just about a lack of depth in comparison to other divisions. Aldo should handle him comfortably

[Vitooch]

I think Hioki deserves a title shot more.

Curran/Aldo would one badass title fight. Even Sandro/Aldo would be better than Koch.

[Educ8d Degener8]

I think Hioki deserves a title shot more.

Curran/Aldo would one badass title fight. Even Sandro/Aldo would be better than Koch.

Hioki was offered the shot but declined... and we'll likely never see Sandro - Aldo unless one leaves Nova Uniao.

[THE_LOCKSMITH]

Evan Dunham and Gabe Gonzaga both injured new matches are

Edson Barboza vs Jamie Varner
Roy Nelson vs Dave Herman

[Beelzebubzy]

Evan Dunham and Gabe Gonzaga both injured new matches are

Edson Barboza vs Jamie Varner
Roy Nelson vs Dave Herman

Roy Nelson via Flying Armbar. Then peewee decides to train jitz

[Beelzebubzy]

..............................

[Beelzebubzy]

JDS Inside at -318 on 5dimes.

Probably wait for KO props

[Vaughany]

yeah

[Vitooch]

Nelson/Herman much better matchup. Nelson has trouble with these giant Brazilian savages (JDS, Werdum, probably Gonzaga and Bigfoot). Matchups like Rothwell, Herman are more his style, the IFL days

[Vaughany]

Nelson/Herman much better matchup. Nelson has trouble with these giant Brazilian savages (JDS, Werdum, probably Gonzaga and Bigfoot). Matchups like Rothwell, Herman are more his style, the IFL days

yeah, have the size advantage as well. Herman seems a little too small for HW.

[Beelzebubzy]

My bad. Forgot.

[Joe_Shabadoo]

I've read the lip service about recovery as always with an injured fighter, but what is everyone's thoughts on Del Rosario being a false 'dog here?

Am I off considering this fight to be off by about 50 cents?

Wouldn't SDR be around -130 if not for the car accident?

Or am I just underrating Miocic?

[Grabaka]

Or am I just underrating Miocic?

I would say you are. So far im liking Miocic @ -150 but havent looked much into it. I would like to ear your thoughts too.

[PunisherIND]

I've read the lip service about recovery as always with an injured fighter, but what is everyone's thoughts on Del Rosario being a false 'dog here?

Am I off considering this fight to be off by about 50 cents?

Wouldn't SDR be around -130 if not for the car accident?

Or am I just underrating Miocic?

ITD @ -210 might be the play.

otherwise, this is a no-play for me. SDR has more ways to win, but the injury and the ring rust is a real concern.

[Joe_Shabadoo]

ITD @ -210 might be the play.

otherwise, this is a no-play for me. SDR has more ways to win, but the injury and the ring rust is a real concern.

Yeah, I need to find some current, specific details about his back before I talk myself into something.

[Thor4140]

i'm not at all that impressed with Dos Santos boxing ability. The problem is that his boxing is better than everyone else's in the heavyweight division except maybe Hunts.

[Crassus]

yeah, have the size advantage as well. Herman seems a little too small for HW.

6'5, like 245lb ripped as hell? Maybe I'm thinking the wrong Herman but as I remember he's a pretty big boy.

not even close to being the same situation. hominick was never a top 5 guy to begin with. i mean, a split decision over leonard garcia and a tko of george roop and he's suddenly a title contender?

A split decision OVER leonard garcia happens once in a lifetime. Title shot is worth it off of that.

[Vaughany]

6'5, like 245lb ripped as hell? Maybe I'm thinking the wrong Herman but as I remember he's a pretty big boy.




A split decision OVER leonard garcia happens once in a lifetime. Title shot is worth it off of that.

Yeah on paper he is big - he is 235, but compared to many in the division he isnt very thick. Looking at the Struve fight he just didnt seem to have enough size and power to do anything effective. I know he couldnt make 205, but he just seems less bulky in comparison to others in the division. Maybe it was just the increased size of Struve that was making me think Herman is smaller than he actually is!

[Beelzebubzy]

Threw Nelson and Barboza in a parlay. Barboza should be able to leg kick him easily here to a victory. Etims takedowns on Barboza worry me slightly, but Edson was able to get to his feet rather quickly. I am hoping this streak of standup fighters allowed him to train wrestling.

Nelson has a huge ground game advantage. Hopefully his cardio will be semi decent

[the josh]

what do you guys think jdos KO will open at? cause jdos ITD right now is -290ish and id hate for Jdos to get huge action and KO to open higher than that

[Joe_Shabadoo]

This parlay [5Dimes] pays about 11.5 / 1 and *looks* eminently possible:

- Barnett [-120]
- Del Rosario ITD [+220]
- Cain ITD [-153]
- JDS ITD [-353]

[getlucky2win]

what u guys think of velasquez vs silva. thinkin bout throwin cain n a few parlays

[Crassus]

This parlay [5Dimes] pays about 11.5 / 1 and *looks* eminently possible:

- Barnett [-120]
- Del Rosario ITD [+220]
- Cain ITD [-153]
- JDS ITD [-353]

Del Rosario has some sick ring rust going on though...still it's solid.

[Imsmarterthanu]

1. 5/26/2012 11:00 PM UFC Fighting 1002 Junior Dos Santos* -500 vs Frank Mir
2. 5/26/2012 10:30 PM UFC Fighting 1102 Cain Velasquez* -360 vs Antonio Silva
3. 5/26/2012 10:00 PM UFC Fighting 1202 Roy Nelson* -240 vs Dave Herman
4. 5/26/2012 9:30 PM UFC Fighting 1302 Shane del Rosario* +135 vs Stipe Miocic
5. 5/26/2012 9:00 PM UFC Fighting 1402 Stefan Struve* +110 vs Mark Hunt
6. 5/26/2012 8:00 PM UFC Fighting 1602 Edson Barboza* -520 vs Jamie Varner

Barboza by outpointing frustrating varner possible late tko/ko Varner only has his punches and they are so predictable he's going to be an open book the entire fight
Struve I am in a toss up over I just think that Hunt is too lazy to pursue struve to try and reach his chin, I think this one goes to the ground I'm giving the advantage here to struve
Dos Santos I think wins easily here, the hype is balogni, Mir's chin is weak he's going to get clipped and dropped his brain is going to be soo scrambled when he drops he won't even think about any submission
Velasquez I think this fight won't be similar to the cormier fight, I think Cormier and Velasquez are 2 different fighters Velasquez is going to be the one moving the most in this fight, his wrestling should neutralize Bigfoot's size advantage and I basically think he's going to manhandle Bigfoot because Silva is just too slow for velasquez he won't be able to keep up with his pace
Del Rosario is just a better fighter than Stipe, Stipe has shown good KO power against cans but Del Rosario's well rounded skills will win the fight
Roy Nelson is just better on the ground with an iron chin I don't see Peewee manhandling Nelson in the cage, I think Nelson will tKO or Submit him on the ground

[Beelzebubzy]

"For first time I'm at 270 three weeks out of the fight," Silva said through an interpreter at Thursday's media teleconference. "Things are going extremely well, I'm very light and fast."
The way Silva sees it, with the bout shaping up as a style clash, slimming down will help counteract one of Velasquez's biggest strengths.
"We're diametrically opposed," said Silva. "I have jiu-jitsu and he has wrestling. I see his speed and his lightness and I'm trying to counter it."

[Jesus Christ]

Looks like it now is Struve vs Lavar Johnson.