what gabe says.

[Hannibal]

You make blanket statements without sufficient reasoning. On the chance that they prove true...you just fking knew it! Knew it was gonna happen!
When it doesn't hit...you just knew there was a chance that it couldn't happen! You knew alrdy.

[Vaughany]

That light might go out after you read my response.

I doubt it

[Educ8d Degener8]

From studying his fights/styles/movement and relating them to the likes of Aldo and Barboza. I mentioned so in my pick. Also, guys that come out of his camp tend to generally have great TDD. I just related him to Aldo and Barboza and know how their TDD is, so I imagined how they would do against a wrestler like Jorgensen, and I predicted that they'd easily stuff his takedowns. I was right.

I figured it was because he's a teammate of Aldo's at Nova Uniao.

Not every guy there has Aldo-esque TDD, for example, Amilcar Alves. Highly touted and properly got served by Pierce and Brenneman... And Ronys Torres who lost to Christmas.

All's I'm saying is (for future reference) be careful with assuming all Nova Uniao guys have ruhtarded good TDD.

[gabe]

You make blanket statements without sufficient reasoning. On the chance that they prove true...you just fking knew it! Knew it was gonna happen! When it doesn't hit...you just knew there was a chance that it couldn't happen! You knew alrdy.

Please provide evidence of this lie/claim.

My picks on Barao and Markes were rated plays. I did not need to add my thoughts to them, but I did. Those are a bonus.

I don't need to give what you consider to be "sufficient reasoning" when I give my plays. I don't have to give my thoughts on the fight AT ALL. That's EXTRA. I post my picks, I don't have to post my thoughts. But I do it, anyway. Many others don't even post their thoughts, they just post their plays.

Name 1 time a play i made has lost and I said "well, there was a chance it wouldn't win!"

why would i say something so obvious? of course there is a chance they won't win. what are you, retarded? yeah, you are.

[gabe]

I figured it was because he's a teammate of Aldo's at Nova Uniao.

Not every guy there has Aldo-esque TDD, for example, Amilcar Alves. Highly touted and properly got served by Pierce and Brenneman... And Ronys Torres who lost to Christmas.

All's I'm saying is (for future reference) be careful with assuming all Nova Uniao guys have ruhtarded good TDD.

Has nothing to do with Nova Uniao. It was good to know that guys from that camp generally have great TDD, but I related him to the likes of Aldo and Barboza- Barboza isn't from that camp. Just the type of fighters they are. I feel like all three of them are a similar breed, wouldn't you agree?

[gabe]

OMG you're so dumb. You're such a dumb-ass. He trains in Brazil with Aldo, of course he has great takedown defence you dumb little kid!

yeah, you're not attacking me, right?? you don't have my photo on your avatar, right?? you don't have anything personal against me, right? you silly little liar

[Educ8d Degener8]

Has nothing to do with Nova Uniao. It was good to know that guys from that camp generally have great TDD, but I related him to the likes of Aldo and Barboza- Barboza isn't from that camp. Just the type of fighters they are. I feel like all three of them are a similar breed, wouldn't you agree?

Similar in appearance and style, yes, I certainly won't disagree with that.

I just never make assumptions regarding TDD without seeing evidence in the ring because it's one of those "gifts" that some fighters have and some just don't.

If I had some premonition that Barao was gonna have that ability, I would've maxed out on that play

Glad it cashed regardless.

[Hannibal]

Didn't you know rumble would win?
Then after he lost you knew he would lose and you "unlocked" him. But the kicker is...the moment you claimed you suddenly realized he would lose, you placed a larger wager on him! Lol

[sideloaded]

gabe just so you know your thread is set to my hompage and my desktop wallpaper

[gabe]

Didn't you know rumble would win? Then after he lost you knew he would lose and you "unlocked" him. But the kicker is...the moment you claimed you suddenly realized he would lose, you placed a larger wager on him! Lol

During the weigh-in fiasco, I was shitting bricks and saying that seriously hurts my lock factor... after being down on money on fight not, I needed a win from Rumble to stay alive. I added another $50 on him. Is that the "larger" wager you're referring to? because I already had well more than a grand on him, is a measly $50 the larger wager you're referring to? gtfo!!!

That didn't pass. Now, PLEASE give me ANOTHER example.

[gabe]

Similar in appearance and style, yes, I certainly won't disagree with that. I just never make assumptions regarding TDD without seeing evidence in the ring because it's one of those "gifts" that some fighters have and some just don't. If I had some premonition that Barao was gonna have that ability, I would've maxed out on that play Glad it cashed regardless.

My gut told me his TDD would be similar to that of Aldo and Barboza, and it didn't let me down.

I don't make plays "locks" for no reason, I don't pull that sh*t out of my ass. I have an extremely strong feeling about those plays. Thank God none of them have yet to lose. Rumble was a lock I had, but it wasn't a lock anymore after the whole weighins ordeal... Had I known that would happen, of course I wouldn't have made it a lock. Rumble was a safe play up til weigh-ins. A healthy Rumble with enough energy for 2 rounds would have easily beaten Vitor, anybody who disagrees after watching that fight is just silly. Rumble over Vitor would be a solid lock any day as long as Rumble is healthy. I lost money on that, but it certainly wasn't a lock. Anyway- my point is, whenever I have that solid of a stance on a play, it's right on the money, given no rumble-esque drama occurs prior to the fight.

[gabe]

gabe just so you know your thread is set to my hompage and my desktop wallpaper

u my dawg, dogg.

[gabe]

Risk / To Win Amount:55.00 / 573.45 (USD) Accepted 2/16/2012 9:49 PM - EST


Los Angeles Clippers
-130
Roger Federer
-1300
Charlotte Bobcats
+7 -110
Minnesota Timberwolves
+4½ -110
California
-710
Washington
-1200
Victoria Azarenka
-675
Agnieszka Radwanska
-575

been hitting a lot of 8 teamers lately

[fosho14]

Do you think akiyama will be able to defend shields takedowns?

[cheeese]

Does hell go with no?

[gabe]

If Shields doesn't get another quick KO, I don't doubt he'll be able to take Akiyama down.

[fosho14]

I agree, it scares me betting large on shields though, simply because of Akiyamas solid judoka base, and solid tdd against other opponents at least. On the feet Akiyama has the striking advantage. Is this a do not bet fight?

[fosho14]

Actually if you check his statistics he's nearly a 100% in takedowns defended :O

[Vaughany]

Statistics can be slightly misleading tho! I dont recall his opponents ever looking to take him down tho so not surprising he has 100% takedowns defended. I also have 100% takedowns defended in UFC! But seriously, I dont think Bisping ever attempted any, Belfort certainly didnt as he finished him early, he took Belcher down a couple times with trips but Belcher didnt attempt any takedowns. So then there is the Leben fight, but again I only recall Sexyama taking him down a couple times, and was winning the fight till getting caught in a triangle. Even if all of those guys had failed with takedowns, there level of takedowns aren't quite at the level of Shields.

[fosho14]

go to ufc.com right now, it's 100%... Is that not worrisome to anybody lol

[fosho14]

sorry didn't see your post!

[fosho14]

hmmm what can I say good points. With his 3rd dan judo base paired with 100% tdd numbers it's just scary being REALLY confident in shields. I agree that shields holds the advantages in this bout but it is very close IMO

[Vaughany]

hmmm what can I say good points. With his 3rd dan judo base paired with 100% tdd numbers it's just scary being REALLY confident in shields. I agree that shields holds the advantages in this bout but it is very close IMO

yeah but as I just said, it's 100% because he's never had to really defend a take-down?! He's been matched up with strikers in order to put on entertaining fights. That's what Akiyama is in the UFC for, because he's entertaining.

[gabe]

yeah but as I just said, it's 100% because he's never had to really defend a take-down?! He's been matched up with strikers in order to put on entertaining fights. That's what Akiyama is in the UFC for, because he's entertaining.

They HAVE to cut him if he loses, right? I can't see them not.

[Beelzebubzy]

They HAVE to cut him if he loses, right? I can't see them not.

He could get the Dan Hardy treatment.

I wouldnt cut Sexyama after this, if he was to lose. He has lost to some serious names and put up a fight of the night 3 times. I would give him Hardy, Hughes, or Diego or someone else who is a name but is no where near being in contention

[Vitooch]

Belcher, Bisping, Leben, Belfort, Shields....All very tough top 10-15 MWs. Id hate to see a guy cut with that resume of opponents.

[Vaughany]

They HAVE to cut him if he loses, right? I can't see them not.

If he gets choked out early or doest put up much of a fight then they might have no choice. But then as he's at a new weight they might give him a clean slate and let him have another fight at WW against somebody average like Riddle or something!

[Beelzebubzy]

If he gets choked out early or doest put up much of a fight then they might have no choice. But then as he's at a new weight they might give him a clean slate and let him have another fight at WW against somebody average like Riddle or something!

Cantwell has lost 4 in a row. Akiyama might just retire if he loses.

[Vaughany]

Cantwell has lost 4 in a row. Akiyama might just retire if he loses.

Well thts why Cantwell still has another fight. He's at a new weight and has been unfortunate with injuries so they are giving him another chance

[Beelzebubzy]

I agree V, I am just saying Akiyama Might be safe if he loses. Cantwell has lost 4 and is still employed until he loses to Fukuda
Hardy is still employed despite his streak of 4 losses.

Just match Akiyama and Hardy loser gets cut aka moves to BAMMA

[Vaughany]

I agree V, I am just saying Akiyama Might be safe if he loses. Cantwell has lost 4 and is still employed until he loses to Fukuda
Hardy is still employed despite his streak of 4 losses.

Just match Akiyama and Hardy loser gets cut aka moves to BAMMA

ha yeah

[gabe]

(re: tennis)

Hit Roger Federer big at -160 this morning when he should have been at least -650.

Another great play with Denis Istomin at +220 - he should be a -220 favorite, not +220 dog. Hitting this big.

[Vaughany]

(re: tennis)

Hit Roger Federer big at -160 this morning when he should have been at least -650.

Another great play with Denis Istomin at +220 - he should be a -220 favorite, not +220 dog. Hitting this big.

What Federer was -160 against Del Potro?

[Vaughany]

Istomin probably shouldnt be that big a dog, they might be getting carried away with Raonic hype. But Raonic is in hot form and his first serve percentages have been ridiculous all week

[gabe]

I've got Istomin +3 at +105 big too

Got a Istomin/Bendo/Alves/Jones parlay $25 to win $303 and Istomin/Bendo $25 to win $135

few of my pending parlays:

Federer/Bendo/Alves/Klitschko/Jones $95 to win $165 (federer's game from yesterday, not today)

Bendo/Klitschko/Alves/Jones $165 to win $555

Markes/Miocic/Jones $21 to win $50

Markes/Jones $25 to win $40