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  • THE_LOCKSMITH
    SBR Hall of Famer
    • 08-25-08
    • 7237

    #106
    they should book Franklin/Machida, and pay Machida, Rich Frabklin money
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    • Kaladarus
      SBR MVP
      • 11-11-09
      • 1876

      #107
      This card was fairly weak to begin with, but it's taken a lot of damage. I hope they can get a good replacement in for Nog.
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      • FlashinLeather
        SBR Wise Guy
        • 01-04-11
        • 573

        #108
        For some reason the UFC cards that look the worst always turn out to be one of the best, I have faith that it will be a good show
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        • Vaughany
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 03-07-10
          • 45563

          #109
          The Mauler gone from -150 to -185/-190 range on 5dimes/sportbet.

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          • v1y
            SBR MVP
            • 05-02-11
            • 1138

            #110
            i was lucky to get him at -185. it's now at -245, although i imagine it wouldn't take much to swing it back.
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            • poopoo333
              SBR High Roller
              • 05-30-11
              • 144

              #111
              It opened @-120/-120 before BFO even brought the lines out. I am pissed for not grabbing him there.
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              • Nick The Greek
                SBR High Roller
                • 12-31-09
                • 189

                #112
                Originally posted by Vaughany
                The Mauler gone from -150 to -185/-190 range on 5dimes/sportbet.

                Lots of live dogs on this one. Pierce, Hallman, & Pyle all stand out to me. Especially Pierce and Pyle, they've really been hitting their strides lately and I see both outwrestling their opponents to decisions.
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                • Vaughany
                  SBR Aristocracy
                  • 03-07-10
                  • 45563

                  #113
                  Originally posted by Nick The Greek
                  Lots of live dogs on this one. Pierce, Hallman, & Pyle all stand out to me. Especially Pierce and Pyle, they've really been hitting their strides lately and I see both outwrestling their opponents to decisions.
                  Not sure about Pyle, I think MacDonald will be too much. I've already got big play on Pierce at +110 and +115 though
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                  • v1y
                    SBR MVP
                    • 05-02-11
                    • 1138

                    #114
                    i do not know who will win the pyle/macdonald fight. however i do know for a fact that macdonald is being overvalued at -260.

                    pierce/hendricks... flip a coin. pierce can replicate what story did, but hendricks might be pissed off about that loss and be prepared for that strategy.
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                    • rocky mattioli
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-26-10
                      • 1263

                      #115
                      gustafsson is impressive...but are we sure that he can stay off his baack for 3 rounds?.....

                      davis handled him...and he hasn`t seen any other top wrestlers in the ufc....
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                      • v1y
                        SBR MVP
                        • 05-02-11
                        • 1138

                        #116
                        Originally posted by rocky mattioli
                        gustafsson is impressive...but are we sure that he can stay off his baack for 3 rounds?.....

                        davis handled him...and he hasn`t seen any other top wrestlers in the ufc....
                        davis handled him? did we watch the same fight?

                        davis couldn't get him down for the vast majority of the round.
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                        • rocky mattioli
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                          • 08-26-10
                          • 1263

                          #117
                          Originally posted by v1y
                          davis handled him? did we watch the same fight?

                          davis couldn't get him down for the vast majority of the round.
                          he choked him out in the first...where i come from,that`s fairly definitive....and he`s the only wrestler on gustafsson`s reume....


                          soooo....so the question stands...is everyone confident that hamill`s wrestling won`t be too much for gustafsson.....also given the fact that hamill`s stand-up is probably better than davis` at this point in their careers...

                          i think the odds are a tad steep...
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                          • Vaughany
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                            • 03-07-10
                            • 45563

                            #118
                            Originally posted by rocky mattioli
                            gustafsson is impressive...but are we sure that he can stay off his baack for 3 rounds?.....

                            davis handled him...and he hasn`t seen any other top wrestlers in the ufc....
                            Originally posted by v1y
                            davis handled him? did we watch the same fight?

                            davis couldn't get him down for the vast majority of the round.
                            Yeah Davis had to struggle to get the takedown but did still dominate in that he won in first round! Gustaffsson has improved since then though thanks to his training with Davis and rest of Alliance. Hamill isnt the biggest LHW either and the way Gustaffsson reversed and dominated Te-Huna on the ground is evidence that his grappling has improved significantly since the Davis loss. He's clearly going to be the better striker, and Hamill's takedowns are not exactly GSPesq, they are rather telegraphed and I think he'll eat some leather if/when he does attempt them. He also seems to think he's some sort of elite striker so may even stand with Gustaffson for large portions of the round, I'll be shocked to see him get the better standing. He's not gonna land a headkick on 6ft 4 Swede like he did on Munoz! Cant rule out a decision for Hamill, maybe a lucky wild haymaker, but I think there is value in Gustafsson up to -180. Not sure if coming in on 3 and half weeks notice will be a major factor, Hamill is the kind of fighter who is always training and probably not been out partying like Charlie Sheen since his loss to Rampage!
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                            • Kaladarus
                              SBR MVP
                              • 11-11-09
                              • 1876

                              #119
                              Hammil isn't a smart fighter that's the problem. If he fought smart with a good game plan I'd bet him all day, but this isn't the case.
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                              • NunyaBidness
                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                • 07-26-09
                                • 9345

                                #120
                                Hallman at +160 is a gift. The Lytle fight seemed more to be Chris overlooking Ebersole than anything else. Ebersole left his neck open over and over and over. Plus Hallman has the wrestling to get on top.
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                                • GunShard
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 03-05-10
                                  • 10027

                                  #121
                                  I have a strange feeling Hamill could win as the underdog. Maybe I am wrong.
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                                  • rocky mattioli
                                    SBR MVP
                                    • 08-26-10
                                    • 1263

                                    #122
                                    Originally posted by Vaughany
                                    Yeah Davis had to struggle to get the takedown but did still dominate in that he won in first round! Gustaffsson has improved since then though thanks to his training with Davis and rest of Alliance. Hamill isnt the biggest LHW either and the way Gustaffsson reversed and dominated Te-Huna on the ground is evidence that his grappling has improved significantly since the Davis loss. He's clearly going to be the better striker, and Hamill's takedowns are not exactly GSPesq, they are rather telegraphed and I think he'll eat some leather if/when he does attempt them. He also seems to think he's some sort of elite striker so may even stand with Gustaffson for large portions of the round, I'll be shocked to see him get the better standing. He's not gonna land a headkick on 6ft 4 Swede like he did on Munoz! Cant rule out a decision for Hamill, maybe a lucky wild haymaker, but I think there is value in Gustafsson up to -180. Not sure if coming in on 3 and half weeks notice will be a major factor, Hamill is the kind of fighter who is always training and probably not been out partying like Charlie Sheen since his loss to Rampage!

                                    yeah....thanks for the reponse...i was a bit worried about gustafsson`s resume prior to his ufc fights(sketchy)......and his one bout vs a high level collegiate wrestler ended badly...

                                    not to say that i`m not impressed with him....he`s a real prospect....just worried about all the times we`ve seen wrestlers grind out wins vs otherwise superior fighters...

                                    i`m not selling ebersole short...the guy`s recent record is pretty solid....he`s tall and pretty well rounded with a solid gastank....

                                    i read about hallman` supposedly rectifying his stamina issues...but i`m always a little cynical about guys miraculously developing cardio after long careers in which it was an issue...i guess we`ll see...because ebersole strikes me as a bulldog...he basically out gutted lytle...

                                    solid fight....tough call...
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                                    • FightFightFight
                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                      • 03-21-11
                                      • 594

                                      #123
                                      Hallman has attributed his strength and stamina to a gluten free diet.
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                                      • bjpenn85
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 02-17-11
                                        • 5059

                                        #124
                                        i just sold my grandparents house on gustaffson. Ey saddle up boys hamill will never win this fight. Its just a faulty decision or a lucky punch that will safe that poor guy. Gustafsson has been so impressive, just look at his old fights and up to now. He is a talent, and from sweden which is great for swedish mma and norwgian mma, since norwegian press surely will find something with his heritage they can angle or give norway credit for. 1.51 at pinnacle still has value in my book. From a betting stand, gustafson got better hands, more durable, better submissions, takedown defense to upset most wrestlers and a huge reach. wrecked, koscheckbaby? are you going to say something ? come shoot niggas
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                                        • Wrecked
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 05-31-11
                                          • 887

                                          #125
                                          Originally posted by bjpenn85
                                          i just sold my grandparents house on gustaffson. Ey saddle up boys hamill will never win this fight. Its just a faulty decision or a lucky punch that will safe that poor guy. Gustafsson has been so impressive, just look at his old fights and up to now. He is a talent, and from sweden which is great for swedish mma and norwgian mma, since norwegian press surely will find something with his heritage they can angle or give norway credit for. 1.51 at pinnacle still has value in my book. From a betting stand, gustafson got better hands, more durable, better submissions, takedown defense to upset most wrestlers and a huge reach. wrecked, koscheckbaby? are you going to say something ? come shoot niggas
                                          The amount of stupidity in your post has just sold me on a solid play for Hamill.
                                          kthxbai
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                                          • v1y
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 05-02-11
                                            • 1138

                                            #126
                                            Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                            Hallman at +160 is a gift. The Lytle fight seemed more to be Chris overlooking Ebersole than anything else. Ebersole left his neck open over and over and over. Plus Hallman has the wrestling to get on top.
                                            hallman lnp'ed howard and saunders, and fought a shadow of karo parisyan.

                                            ebersole took out a game lytle.

                                            don't think you got a gift at all.
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                                            • bjpenn85
                                              SBR Hall of Famer
                                              • 02-17-11
                                              • 5059

                                              #127
                                              Are you going jesuseatsnubs on me now? Post your hamill bet or shut the **** up!
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                                              • Vaughany
                                                SBR Aristocracy
                                                • 03-07-10
                                                • 45563

                                                #128
                                                Originally posted by FightFightFight
                                                Hallman has attributed his strength and stamina to a gluten free diet.
                                                He's also on the dreaded HGH "replacement" as well!
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                                                • bjpenn85
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                                                  • 02-17-11
                                                  • 5059

                                                  #129
                                                  5:04pm 18-Jul-11 5:35pm 6-Aug-11 Mixed Martial Arts
                                                  Money Line Matt Hamill vs Alexander Gustafsson for Match. 1.513 1,500.00 769.23
                                                  Here is one of my bets on gustaffson, 1500 norwegian krones is approx 300 dollars, wrecked, where is your hamill ? You and your big mouth, come play with me!!!
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                                                  • bjpenn85
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 02-17-11
                                                    • 5059

                                                    #130
                                                    but wait, its more...


                                                    3997217-17/19/11 3:53am$8.78$4.62Pending8/6/11 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1601 Alexander Gustafsson -190* vs Matt Hamill
                                                    83962489-17/18/11 7:32pm$190.00$100.00Pending8/6/11 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1601 Alexander Gustafsson -190* vs Matt Hamill
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                                                    • bjpenn85
                                                      SBR Hall of Famer
                                                      • 02-17-11
                                                      • 5059

                                                      #131
                                                      a bit hard to copy paste from 5dimes, you get the numbers anyway, ok wrecked? are you man enough, are you willing to sacrifice? or are you as delusional and coward like jesuseatsnus that we all hate so much? COME OUT ..kitty kitty...
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                                                      • Vaughany
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                        • 45563

                                                        #132
                                                        Wow Ebersole down to -107 on pinnacle.
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                                                        • The HOFF
                                                          SBR MVP
                                                          • 07-02-08
                                                          • 4847

                                                          #133
                                                          Originally posted by NunyaBidness
                                                          Hallman at +160 is a gift. The Lytle fight seemed more to be Chris overlooking Ebersole than anything else. Ebersole left his neck open over and over and over. Plus Hallman has the wrestling to get on top.
                                                          I think Lytle was hurt too. I favor Hallman in this one. I have seen nothing from Ebersole that impressed me.
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                                                          • rocky mattioli
                                                            SBR MVP
                                                            • 08-26-10
                                                            • 1263

                                                            #134
                                                            Originally posted by bjpenn85
                                                            i just sold my grandparents house on gustaffson. Ey saddle up boys hamill will never win this fight. Its just a faulty decision or a lucky punch that will safe that poor guy. Gustafsson has been so impressive, just look at his old fights and up to now. He is a talent, and from sweden which is great for swedish mma and norwgian mma, since norwegian press surely will find something with his heritage they can angle or give norway credit for. 1.51 at pinnacle still has value in my book. From a betting stand, gustafson got better hands, more durable, better submissions, takedown defense to upset most wrestlers and a huge reach. wrecked, koscheckbaby? are you going to say something ? come shoot niggas

                                                            is this the same guy that posted this?

                                                            ""The fact that the UFC gives shane carwin jon olav einemo must be a good sign. I am norwegian, and norwegians barely win anything. Just look at dan evensen, maybe the worst guy been in the ufc ever. It does not surprise me that Joakim hansen has lost three in a row, norwegians just suck, when it comes to sport because we believe that everyone is equal, and that people shouldt be better than other (this is called jante law) If someone says, hey, im the best, people ******* hate you. I just Expekt that einemo will lose based on the fact that he is norwegian.""

                                                            i love the newfound scandinavian chutzpah !...makes me consider going out and buying a volvo(or a saab)......


                                                            //but those morose black and white films have to go...............

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                                                            • sirchadwick1
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                                                              • 06-02-10
                                                              • 1375

                                                              #135
                                                              Originally posted by The HOFF
                                                              I think Lytle was hurt too. I favor Hallman in this one. I have seen nothing from Ebersole that impressed me.
                                                              I'm on Hallman at +135. Ebersole is nothing but hype right now after his performance against Lytle... oh and his hairrow and flashy style gets people talking. Hallman controls this one for a boring UD win.
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                                                              • jesuseatsnubs
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 04-27-11
                                                                • 507

                                                                #136
                                                                Originally posted by Wrecked
                                                                The amount of stupidity in your post has just sold me on a solid play for Hamill.
                                                                kthxbai
                                                                you are a total moron .. Hamill is gonna get wrecked bitch
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                                                                • sirchadwick1
                                                                  SBR MVP
                                                                  • 06-02-10
                                                                  • 1375

                                                                  #137
                                                                  Originally posted by jesuseatsnubs
                                                                  you are a total moron .. Hamill is gonna get wrecked bitch
                                                                  Haha... for once I agree with the nubs!
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                                                                  • jesuseatsnubs
                                                                    SBR Wise Guy
                                                                    • 04-27-11
                                                                    • 507

                                                                    #138
                                                                    Originally posted by bjpenn85
                                                                    a bit hard to copy paste from 5dimes, you get the numbers anyway, ok wrecked? are you man enough, are you willing to sacrifice? or are you as delusional and coward like jesuseatsnus that we all hate so much? COME OUT ..kitty kitty...
                                                                    honestly why do u guys hate me so much .. I just don't get it but whatever lol

                                                                    u can thank me afterwards when I post my ufc 133 plays 1 day prior .. I've done shit load of research so far .. Pretty confident with every single one of my picks .. like I said before a pick from me is like a pick from Jesus himself .. I promise u there is no way a single one of my picks is losing for this event ..
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                                                                    • Vaughany
                                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                                      • 03-07-10
                                                                      • 45563

                                                                      #139
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                                                                      • Mr.Kitty
                                                                        SBR MVP
                                                                        • 11-10-09
                                                                        • 1880

                                                                        #140
                                                                        Originally posted by sirchadwick1
                                                                        I'm on Hallman at +135. Ebersole is nothing but hype right now after his performance against Lytle... oh and his hairrow and flashy style gets people talking. Hallman controls this one for a boring UD win.
                                                                        Ebersoles girlfriend got tired of his hairrow!



                                                                        Hallman at +160 was a good deal, now you could arb it with Ebersole at -107.
                                                                        Last edited by Mr.Kitty; 07-19-11, 07:43 AM.
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