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  • ufcmma36
    SBR MVP
    • 02-22-10
    • 1065

    #316
    Gegard trains with fedor on a regular basis... When will people understand??? Gegard is gonna destroy King Mo!
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    • konck
      SBR Posting Legend
      • 10-17-06
      • 12554

      #317
      Good luck all when does brock get back
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      • illmatick
        SBR Hall of Famer
        • 01-05-09
        • 5456

        #318
        thanks bate.....

        Brock will be back in a few months to fight Carwin



        Originally posted by ufcmma36
        Gegard trains with fedor on a regular basis... When will people understand??? Gegard is gonna destroy King Mo!
        if you're so confident then put all your money on Gegard, take out out a loan if you have to, Gegard is a LOCK
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        • Eccocide
          SBR MVP
          • 01-12-09
          • 2126

          #319
          On Imada as well. I thought the line would be closer to -250. Leaning Aoki and will prolly stay away from Mo/Mousasi - too many unknowns for me lol.
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          • as99
            SBR MVP
            • 03-25-10
            • 1585

            #320
            Aoki sucks.

            Mo is very dangerous, very good knock out power and great wrestling skills, however Mousasi is only in danger if he stands up even though he is a good striker.
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            • Eccocide
              SBR MVP
              • 01-12-09
              • 2126

              #321
              Yes Aoki sucks.....lol. He may be a bitch and doesnt like to get hit (reason I havent played it yet) but he definitely doesn't suck.
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              • illmatick
                SBR Hall of Famer
                • 01-05-09
                • 5456

                #322
                chances are I will be buying back with some sort of aoki by sub prop, love our Imada play tomorrow

                GL!
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                • as99
                  SBR MVP
                  • 03-25-10
                  • 1585

                  #323
                  This is a 5 round match. Aoki is in big trouble if he doesn't get his submission early. Couple of punches and it will be lights out, good night. Smart play would be to stay away from Aoki. Cage is a factor as well.
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                  • illmatick
                    SBR Hall of Famer
                    • 01-05-09
                    • 5456

                    #324
                    added one more play , should be it unless I get a chance to buy back on a Aoki by sub prop

                    Gilbert Melendez -160x3.5
                    King MO +180 x.25 and +210 x.5
                    Imada -181 x2 and -190 x2
                    Shad Lierley +250 x.25
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                    • southmadejd
                      SBR MVP
                      • 08-27-09
                      • 1059

                      #325
                      Hi ilmatick....I was thinking of putting something small on King Mo also. I could see him grinding out a decision over Mousasi just with his superior wrestling. I love Mousasi and think he is very technical but for some reason I think Mo might take it. I also might run a counter parlay with Mousasis/Henderson/and Melendez. I just think Melendez is going to abuse Aoki with his wrestling in the cage. Does anybody know if Aoki has ever really fought any strong wrestlers? I wish I knew more about Melendez's submission defense. If anybody knows could you fill me in?
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                      • pat venditto
                        SBR Posting Legend
                        • 05-07-07
                        • 14347

                        #326
                        Good luck guy.
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                        • illmatick
                          SBR Hall of Famer
                          • 01-05-09
                          • 5456

                          #327
                          Originally posted by southmadejd
                          Hi ilmatick....I was thinking of putting something small on King Mo also. I could see him grinding out a decision over Mousasi just with his superior wrestling. I love Mousasi and think he is very technical but for some reason I think Mo might take it. I also might run a counter parlay with Mousasis/Henderson/and Melendez. I just think Melendez is going to abuse Aoki with his wrestling in the cage. Does anybody know if Aoki has ever really fought any strong wrestlers? I wish I knew more about Melendez's submission defense. If anybody knows could you fill me in?
                          Melendez trains with blackbelts on the daily, hopefully he's been working on primarily defending leg locks


                          if bookmaker or 5 dimes make the mistake of putting Mo at +200 again I'm pounding that shit, I just watched every single Gegard fight over the last 3 years, from Gono all the way to SOKO.

                          I watched his k-1 fight and find it laughable at that being the reason so many people think he is an elite striker. The guy he fought was something like 6-10 his last 16 fights and was completely washed up at the point of that fight. Even though he is a tall striker he doesn't use his reach and height very effectively, basically a lot of forward and backward movement, doesn't use enough angles to throw his opponents off, something Mo does an excellent job at, also don't think he properly generates power in his punches, throws a lot from his shoulders, opposed to Mo who throws his whole body into his punches, starting from his legs and follows through with his hips generating maximum power.

                          few things that I was impressed with was Gegard's ability to just completely out work Hector Lombard on the mat, few sweeps that he got were just amazing, Hector looked gassed after the first 5 mins so that could have played a big role in it, sweeps and leg kicks are my primary concern for KIng Mo, i could see Gegard chopping him down for the first 3 rounds if it makes it that far.

                          Dean Lister was commenting on how amazed he was on how fast Mo was picking up the intricacies off bjj, also working with Werdum, Big NOG, and Sobral should really have him ready to defend the sub. I don't think Gegard has fought somebody with same ability to just power out of whatever he might Lock Mo into

                          I look at Gegard's 15 fight win streak and I don't see a single fighter outside of maybe Souza that really brought a serious threat to snapping his streak, mostly one dimensional fighters that he was able to dictate to where the fight went, not the case with MO

                          I said before the Soko fight that I thought Soko would be his toughest fight and thought he had a stand up advantage, even had a small play on Soko. IMO he lost that first round and was exposed just a bit, I think Mo is twice the fighter soko is so you can imagine how my confidence has only started to grow every time I stop to think about this fight, The way I look at it, MO does two things better than Gegard and Gegard only does one thing better than MO
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                          • pat venditto
                            SBR Posting Legend
                            • 05-07-07
                            • 14347

                            #328
                            Interesting write up. I may tail you.
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                            • illmatick
                              SBR Hall of Famer
                              • 01-05-09
                              • 5456

                              #329
                              GL Pat, fights will be free on CBS
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                              • BatemanPatrickl
                                SBR Posting Legend
                                • 06-21-07
                                • 18772

                                #330
                                Nice analysis Illmatick and good luck!
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                                • konck
                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                  • 10-17-06
                                  • 12554

                                  #331
                                  Fisher
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                                  • illmatick
                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                    • 01-05-09
                                    • 5456

                                    #332
                                    line is going crazy in the Imada fight, usually not one to get spooked by line movement but better to be safe than sorry for this one ,small insurance parlay

                                    x.5
                                    Krause +155
                                    King MO +180
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                                    • pat venditto
                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                      • 05-07-07
                                      • 14347

                                      #333
                                      I like the chalk in both of those matchups. Good luck though one of us will win.
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                                      • illmatick
                                        SBR Hall of Famer
                                        • 01-05-09
                                        • 5456

                                        #334
                                        I played the chalk with Imada, I still stand to win 1.5 units with imada even with the semi hedge

                                        just don't like the way that line has been moving, at one point the line was at -285 and it's now as low as -165
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                                        • ddream1
                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                          • 02-18-10
                                          • 695

                                          #335
                                          all the best, very good looking card sir.
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                                          • Educ8d Degener8
                                            SBR MVP
                                            • 01-12-10
                                            • 3177

                                            #336
                                            The only two L's on Krause's record are pretty respectable... That's all I can think of.

                                            I dunno...
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                                            • Vaughany
                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                              • 03-07-10
                                              • 45563

                                              #337
                                              Originally posted by illmatick
                                              Melendez trains with blackbelts on the daily, hopefully he's been working on primarily defending leg locks


                                              if bookmaker or 5 dimes make the mistake of putting Mo at +200 again I'm pounding that shit, I just watched every single Gegard fight over the last 3 years, from Gono all the way to SOKO.

                                              I watched his k-1 fight and find it laughable at that being the reason so many people think he is an elite striker. The guy he fought was something like 6-10 his last 16 fights and was completely washed up at the point of that fight. Even though he is a tall striker he doesn't use his reach and height very effectively, basically a lot of forward and backward movement, doesn't use enough angles to throw his opponents off, something Mo does an excellent job at, also don't think he properly generates power in his punches, throws a lot from his shoulders, opposed to Mo who throws his whole body into his punches, starting from his legs and follows through with his hips generating maximum power.

                                              few things that I was impressed with was Gegard's ability to just completely out work Hector Lombard on the mat, few sweeps that he got were just amazing, Hector looked gassed after the first 5 mins so that could have played a big role in it, sweeps and leg kicks are my primary concern for KIng Mo, i could see Gegard chopping him down for the first 3 rounds if it makes it that far.

                                              Dean Lister was commenting on how amazed he was on how fast Mo was picking up the intricacies off bjj, also working with Werdum, Big NOG, and Sobral should really have him ready to defend the sub. I don't think Gegard has fought somebody with same ability to just power out of whatever he might Lock Mo into

                                              I look at Gegard's 15 fight win streak and I don't see a single fighter outside of maybe Souza that really brought a serious threat to snapping his streak, mostly one dimensional fighters that he was able to dictate to where the fight went, not the case with MO

                                              I said before the Soko fight that I thought Soko would be his toughest fight and thought he had a stand up advantage, even had a small play on Soko. IMO he lost that first round and was exposed just a bit, I think Mo is twice the fighter soko is so you can imagine how my confidence has only started to grow every time I stop to think about this fight, The way I look at it, MO does two things better than Gegard and Gegard only does one thing better than MO
                                              Gd stuff....King Mo all the way! Also got Melendez and Hendo.
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                                              • illmatick
                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                • 01-05-09
                                                • 5456

                                                #338
                                                Imada finishes with an armbar, +1.45 units tonight
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                                                • illmatick
                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                  • 5456

                                                  #339
                                                  Daron Cruickshank was at +150 for tomorrow, right when I went to bet the fight they take the line down

                                                  I pray when they put the line back up he's still the underdog, 100 dollar limit is bullshit though
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                                                  • illmatick
                                                    SBR Hall of Famer
                                                    • 01-05-09
                                                    • 5456

                                                    #340
                                                    bookmaker clerk tells me this

                                                    CS - Lee: they are down right now because of doubts on those fights
                                                    CS - Lee: I have no details of the reasons why
                                                    CS - Lee: of course he knows why, but it is not our job to inform on injuries or circumstances that affect events, you could always check on news for the events on alternate sources dedicated to provide such information

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                                                    • bluefish
                                                      SBR Wise Guy
                                                      • 04-13-09
                                                      • 917

                                                      #341
                                                      go go go
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                                                      • southmadejd
                                                        SBR MVP
                                                        • 08-27-09
                                                        • 1059

                                                        #342
                                                        Thanks for the interesting and in depth analysis illmatik. You definitely sold me on the hunch I already had. I agree that Souza was the only one that has posed a serious threat to him and Souza was winning that fight until he got caught with that up kick. I think I will start putting money on Mo, Henderson, and Melendez.

                                                        Does anybody know anything about Tim Stout. That line is sick.
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                                                        • ngates815
                                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                                          • 12-01-09
                                                          • 13845

                                                          #343
                                                          I can't believe so many people on Melendez.

                                                          Anything can happen, but I think I've only seen Aoki be knocked out twice.

                                                          I'm on Aoki, Mo, Henderson.
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                                                          • illmatick
                                                            SBR Hall of Famer
                                                            • 01-05-09
                                                            • 5456

                                                            #344
                                                            King Mo wins by ud

                                                            bought back for 1.5 units on aoki +140
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                                                            • Capn Morgan
                                                              SBR High Roller
                                                              • 03-16-10
                                                              • 160

                                                              #345
                                                              wow im really disapointed in Mousassi
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                                                              • illmatick
                                                                SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                • 01-05-09
                                                                • 5456

                                                                #346
                                                                2-0 tonight +2.15 units

                                                                YTD- +15.68 units
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                                                                • illmatick
                                                                  SBR Hall of Famer
                                                                  • 01-05-09
                                                                  • 5456

                                                                  #347
                                                                  Nogueira -240 x2 and -250 x3
                                                                  Cerrone -105 x1
                                                                  Faber +275x.25
                                                                  Mirko +110 x.25
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                                                                  • ufcmma36
                                                                    SBR MVP
                                                                    • 02-22-10
                                                                    • 1065

                                                                    #348
                                                                    Originally posted by Capn Morgan
                                                                    wow im really disapointed in Mousassi
                                                                    Agreed! But look at the damage he did too mo's face.. If only he could have avoided those tds and let loose
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                                                                    • ufcmma36
                                                                      SBR MVP
                                                                      • 02-22-10
                                                                      • 1065

                                                                      #349
                                                                      Originally posted by illmatick
                                                                      Nogueira -240 x2 and -250 x3
                                                                      Cerrone -105 x1
                                                                      Faber +275x.25
                                                                      Mirko +110 x.25
                                                                      Great picks! Mirko needs this bad!
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                                                                      • Vaughany
                                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                                        • 03-07-10
                                                                        • 45563

                                                                        #350
                                                                        Mirko is gonna get smashed! Barry is going to be far too explosive.
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