UFC 240: Holloway vs. Edgar (July 27, 2019)

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  • Enfuego
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    #71
    Originally posted by Thor4140
    Been wanting to see Frankie and Blessed fight forever. Card is so bad that it has taking all the luster out of the moment. They have to stop relying on two fights with these cards an start relying on three or four big fights. This crap with relying on two big fights is destine for disaster like this card.
    Pantoja/Fig is a great fight.
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    • Shagdogy
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      #72





      2.5u Tsarukyan -169
      2u Araujo -190
      2u Neal/Price u1.5 -130
      1.9u Cyborg/Spencer u1.5 -190
      1.25u Holloway/Edgar o3.5 -125
      0.75u Fig/Pantoja WGD +144
      0.25 Holloway rd 3 +625
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      • JC2008
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        #73
        Anyone else have a feeling that one of these fights is going to ruin a lot of parlays? I don't see Cyborg losing but...
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        • frankieunits2685
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          #74
          might have to sprinkle a little bit on frankie...+300 not bad
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          • nyrider88
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            #75



            watching a few of frankies old fights and came across some hilarious rockhold comments. scroll to bottom at top comments.
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            • JC2008
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              #76
              Originally posted by frankieunits2685
              might have to sprinkle a little bit on frankie...+300 not bad
              I mean... Your name IS frankieunits! How could you not!?

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              • nyrider88
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                #77
                gavin tucker by sub +1050, a good long shot bet.
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                • Hugo de Naranja
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by Enfuego
                  Pantoja/Fig is a great fight.
                  As is Neal/Price. Also exciting prospects in Tsarukyan, Araujo, and Dawodu. Think this will be a fun card with well-matched action fights from top to bottom.
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                  • wlulaxer
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                    #79
                    You posting your plays Hugo? You did pretty awesome last card, what was it like +9 units or so
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                    • Hugo de Naranja
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by wlulaxer
                      You posting your plays Hugo? You did pretty awesome last card, what was it like +9 units or so
                      Yup I'll have 'em up in the next 20 minutes or so.
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                      • firekillex
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                        #81
                        adding cyborg to like 15 parlays lmao
                        prayers up
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                        • Hugo de Naranja
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                          #82
                          We gettin some BPs rolling on the Borg fight Papes? Any ideas?
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                          • Hugo de Naranja
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                            #83
                            Originally posted by firekillex
                            adding cyborg to like 15 parlays lmao
                            prayers up
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                            • Hugo de Naranja
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                              #84
                              UFC 240: Holloway vs. Edgar Picks:
                              Erik Koch Round 1 Submission (Rear-Naked Choke)
                              Gillian Robertson Round 2 Submission (Armbar)
                              Deiveson Figueiredo Round 2 TKO (Punches)
                              Seung Woo Choi Round 1 TKO (Punches)
                              Hakeem Dawodu Unanimous Decision (30-27 x3)
                              Viviane Araujo Round 3 TKO (Punches)
                              Krzysztof Jotko Unanimous Decision (29-28 x3)
                              Arman Tsarukyan Unanimous Decision (30-27 x2, 29-28)
                              Geoff Neal Round 1 TKO (Punches)
                              Cris Cyborg Round 1 TKO (Punches)
                              Max Holloway Round 3 TKO (Punches)
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                              • Hugo de Naranja
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                                #85
                                UFC 240: Holloway vs. Edgar

                                Fight Pass Early Prelims:

                                Fight #1: Koch vs. Stewart
                                Koch Submission (+502) 0.25u

                                Fight #2: Robertson vs. Frota
                                Parlays

                                ESPN Prelims:

                                Fight #3: Figueiredo vs. Pantoja
                                Figueiredo+Pantoja Won’t Go Distance (+150) 1u
                                Figueiredo ITD (+339) 0.5u

                                Fight #4: S. Choi vs. Tucker
                                No Bet

                                Fight #5: Dawodu vs. Horie (DEBUT)
                                Dawodu Decision (+186) 1u

                                Fight #6: Araujo vs. A. Davis
                                Araujo (-140) 2.8u to win 2u
                                Araujo+A. Davis Won’t Go Distance (+165) 1u
                                Araujo Round 3 (+1025) 0.25u

                                Main Card:

                                Fight #7: Jotko vs. Barriault
                                No Bet

                                Fight #8: Tsarukyan vs. Aubin-Mercier
                                Tsarukyan (-185) 1.85u to win 1u

                                Hedge:
                                Aubin-Mercier Submission (+1025) 0.75u

                                Fight #9: Neal vs. Price
                                Parlays

                                Hedge:
                                Price ITD (+425) 0.75u

                                Fight #10: Cyborg vs. Spencer
                                Parlays

                                Fight #11: Holloway vs. Edgar
                                Holloway Unanimous Decision (+345) 1u
                                Holloway Round 3 (+675) 1u
                                Holloway Round 4 (+1075) 0.25u
                                Holloway Round 5 (+1675) 0.25u

                                Hedge:
                                Edgar Decision (+550) 0.75u

                                Straight Parlays:
                                Tsarukyan/Cyborg (-150) 3u to win 2u
                                Araujo/Cyborg (+101) 0.5u
                                Araujo/Neal/Cyborg (+152) 2u

                                Prop Parlays:
                                Robertson+Frota WGD/Neal+Price WGD (+116) 1.5u
                                Tsarukyan Decision/Cyborg KO (+198) 0.51u

                                Full Card Props:
                                Over 6.5 Fights Go Distance (+366) 0.5u
                                Over 7.5 Fights Go Distance (+1125) 0.2u

                                Multi-Event Parlays:
                                None
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                                • wlulaxer
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                                  #86
                                  Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                  Always like seeing your thoughts on the cards Hugo, thanks
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                                  • Hugo de Naranja
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                                    #87
                                    Originally posted by wlulaxer
                                    Always like seeing your thoughts on the cards Hugo, thanks
                                    Best of luck tonight sir!
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                                    • firekillex
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                                      #88
                                      really thought gavin tucker was going to be something special but that L he took Rick Glenn was brutal.... and he took a huge layoff , hasnt fought since 2017.. tough
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                                      • Hugo de Naranja
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                                        #89
                                        Originally posted by firekillex
                                        really thought gavin tucker was going to be something special but that L he took Rick Glenn was brutal.... and he took a huge layoff , hasnt fought since 2017.. tough
                                        Yeah this fight will be a good gauge of where he's at.
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                                        • firekillex
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                                          #90
                                          Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                          Yeah this fight will be a good gauge of where he's at.
                                          agreed.. gavin tucker and OAM have huge fights for their careers tonight...
                                          need another Toronto card out here
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                                          • JIBBBY
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                                            #91
                                            I'm pumped for the main card!!! Getting fired up over here..


                                            Here is the main card brief write ups from MMA MANIA - I don't necessarily agree with the predictions but I like the write ups..




                                            145 lbs.: UFC Featherweight Champion Max “Blessed” Holloway (20-4) vs. Frankie “The Answer” Edgar (23-6-1)
                                            It had been so long since Max Holloway was defeated, I was beginning to think it was not possible. Then “Blessed” got greedy for gold and decided to try his luck at 155 pounds, where he quickly realized that a career at lightweight requires a lightweight body. A lot of fighters believe moving up a division equates to not cutting weight; but in reality, it means building a bigger, stronger frame, something Dustin Poirier used to his advantage when they went to war at UFC 236. How we measure that loss for Holloway when looking at his return to featherweight will be tricky, but may also hold the key to understanding what sort of fighter we should expect tomorrow night in Edmonton.
                                            Let’s start with the obvious: Holloway’s one of the premiere strikers at 145 pounds. Striking is not just about pumping the jab, or throwing great combos. It’s about footwork, pressure, head movement, and about a dozen other variables. “Blessed” has mastered them all and what makes him so dangerous is his willingness to engage. You won’t see the Hawaiian pop in and pop out. You will instead see him pop in and pop-pop-pop, duck under or feint, then pop-pop-pop some more. Brian Ortega came into their five-round headliner having brutally finished Edgar via uppercut and Holloway gave zero penetrates. He jumped into the fray and let his hands go, eventually turning “T-City” into Hamburger Helper.
                                            That doesn’t mean he’s going to run away with this thing. Edgar is a bit bouncier in the pocket and holds a comparable pedigree while boasting pretty fast hands. His striking is more choreographed than the naturally fluid Holloway, but he’s no less dangerous. And despite giving up five inches in height, “The Answer” surrenders just one inch in reach. Unfortunately, none of those tools were enough to dethrone Jose Aldo, whereas “Blessed” beat (and finished) “Junior” in back-to-back fights. If Edgar could not beat Aldo or Ortega, how can I confidently pick him to beat Holloway?
                                            I can’t.
                                            Edgar is a fantastic wrestler and has used his mat skills to get out of trouble against heavy hitters like Jeremy Stephens, but Holloway has outstanding takedown defense. Critics will point to the fact that Poirier got him to the ground, as did Ortega, while also leaving out the fact that “Diamond” was 1-8 in takedown attempts, compared to 2-11 for “T-City.” Those are hardly statistics to be bragging about and I would anticipate similar numbers for Edgar. It’s not like the Jersey shore native has Khabib Nurmagomedov’s top game, either, so if Holloway hits the floor, I expect him to get right back up.
                                            Edgar deserves all the accolades he’s gotten in his career and I don’t even have a problem with him getting a title shot. I just don’t see where he wins this fight. The decade-younger Holloway can match “The Answer” in cardio, has more dynamic striking, will neutralize the wrestling attack, and dodge, block, or eat most (if not all) of Edgar’s power shots. The challenger won’t go quietly of course, and is sure to have his moments, but this will go all five rounds and likely end in a sweep on the judges’ scorecards.
                                            Welcome home, Max.
                                            Prediction: Holloway def. Edgar by unanimous decision


                                            145 lbs.: Cristiane “Cyborg” Justino (20-2, 1 NC) vs. Felicia “FeeNom” Spencer (7-0)
                                            I know that in MMA we’re supposed to abandon ship when a fighter loses and claim they were “exposed” before nitpicking every win that came before it, but that might be a tall order for a combatant with the resume of Cristiane Justino. It also helps that Amanda Nunes is a penetrating killer, so it’s not like “Cyborg” lost a step and got laced by Tonya Evinger, or some other bloated bantamweight with nothing to lose. Justino inexplicably neglected her boxing, used effectively to outpoint Holly Holm, and got into a bar fight with “Lioness,” who is not only powerful, but strikes with laser-like precision. The former champ knew it the second she regained her wits and has been calling for a rematch ever since her stunning UFC 232 upset, despite claims to the contrary from always-honest UFC President Dana White.
                                            She probably won’t get it. This is the final fight on Justino’s UFC contract and Scott Coker, her previous boss under the Strikeforce banner, will offer a handsome compensation package and quite frankly, a less toxic work environment. That’s unlikely to impact Justino’s UFC 240 motivation, as fighting is her life and not some springboard to Hollywood, so she will treat this fight as if it’s the key to getting a do-over with Nunes. That’s bad news for Felicia Spencer, a young and very talented submission specialist who already disposed of another top featherweight in Megan Anderson.
                                            Spencer is 7-0 as a pro with five finishes and does her best work when she can muscle her opponents to the ground and outgrapple them. Trying to muscle Justino, who is built like a brick shithouse and punches like one too, is a fool’s errand. I talked about “Cyborg” needing to avoid the savage brawl-for-all style that was easy to get away with earlier in her career; however, this fight may be an exception. I don’t want to say Spencer’s hands are garbage; they aren’t, but she’s no Nunes and anyone not named Nunes who has tried to stand and bang with Justino has been buried in place.
                                            “Cyborg” is not immune to the takedown. Evinger got her south, as did Yana Kunitskaya, but the Brazilian has an underrated ground game and let’s face it, when you are strong as she is, it’s easy to defend submission attempts. Let’s just hope she doesn’t get lazy and give up her back in a mad scramble to return to the feet. Outside of that, or some unforeseen boneheaded move, this fight is likely to resemble most other “Cyborg” fights. Spencer will come out game, get a taste of the power, then get walked and stalked amid a hail of Brazilian bombs, ultimate wilting under the pressure somewhere late in the opening frame.
                                            Prediction: Justino def. Spencer by technical knockout


                                            170 lbs.: Geoff “Handz of Steel” Neal (11-2) vs. Niko “The Hybrid” Price (13-2, 1 NC)
                                            Geoff Neal kind of came out of nowhere, which is not a knock on Dana White’s “Contender Series,” I just didn't pay much attention to him after he snagged a first-round finish back in 2017. That was clearly a dumb decision on my part (one of many, I assure you), as “Handz of Steel” has been flawless in the three fights that followed, with two of them ending quite violently. Still only 28, he’s a legitimate threat to the Top 10 if he can continue his upward trajectory, fueled by some of the better striking we’ve seen at welterweight over the last few years. At least for someone with just three fights in UFC.
                                            On the other hand, I think most of us have already known just how dangerous Niko Price can be when he’s firing on all cylinders — and even when he’s not, as we learned in the Randy Brown fight. I’m not sure what you would call his style ... I know he’s billed as “The Hybrid,” suggesting he’s well versed in all combat sports disciplines, but his most potent weapons are his power and unpredictability. Price is not unlike Tony Ferguson, minus all of that weird talk about Tiramisu and champ shit. It’s hard to prepare for a fighter like Price and even more difficult to adjust on the fly, something past opponents have tried to do after getting a taste of his knockout power.
                                            I understand why Neal might be the favorite in this fight. He’s more technical and certainly a more polished striker with both poise and precision. But -345 against +285? C’mon ... Neal isn’t even ranked in the Top 15. I know Price went down in flames against Abdul Razak Alhassan last September, but let’s not pretend Neal wasn’t toe-tagged by Kevin Holland under the XKO banner in 2017, which isn’t exactly ancient history. The safe bet here would be “Handz of Steel” by decision, but Price has too many intangibles. I would not be surprised to see “The Hybrid” land a power shot somewhere late in the fight, thanks in part to Neal being up on the scorecards and getting a little too relaxed.
                                            Prediction: Price def. Neal by technical knockout


                                            155 lbs.: Olivier “The Canadian Gangster” Aubin-Mercier (11-4) vs. Arman “Ahalkalakets” Tsarukyan (13-2)
                                            Olivier Aubin-Mercier came out of TUF: “Nations” Finale as one of the more promising Canadian prospects in recent years. And why not? The Judo black belt has an outstanding submission game and fights in the southpaw stance, a combination he put to good use in commanding performances against solid veterans like Drew Dober and Evan Dunham, among others. But his Octagon debut was back in 2014 and after five years of competition, “The Canadian Gangster” is not even ranked in the Top 15. I’m sure back-to-back losses to Alexander Hernandez and Gilbert Burns did not help his cause, but he should be much farther along than he is.
                                            While the same ranking argument applies to Arman Tsarukyan, the Russian rookie is just 22 years old and has but one fight under the UFC banner, a decision loss to the once-beaten (and No. 15-ranked) Islam Makhachev. That’s a pretty brutal fight to draw in your Octagon debut and he performed admirably, though you don’t get any points for losing. Tsarukyan is also about as well balanced as they come, splitting 10 finishes between knockout and submission at five apiece. I typically don’t put much stock in regional wins, and no question Tsarukyan has whopped his fair share of Russian rejects, but he’s also put the hurt on established UFC veterans like Junior Assuncao and Takenori Sato. Not bad for a kid his age.
                                            This fight boils down to grappling. Aubin-Mercier has improved his stand up and is certainly not lost on his feet, but I don’t think he presents the kind of threat that would neutralize or even stop a phenom like Tsarukyan. That will require “The Canadian Gangster” to rely on his Judo skills, formidable in their own right, though I can’t imagine Tsarukyan will give him the freedom to operate at will. With his UFC debut out of the way, I expect this to be a showcase fight for the up-and-coming Russian. He probably won’t get the finish — Aubin-Mercier is too damn tough — but I don’t expect this to be a close fight, either. Welcome to the future.
                                            Prediction: Tsarukyan def. Aubin-Mercier by unanimous decision


                                            185 lbs.: Krzysztof Jotko (20-4) vs. Marc-Andre “Power Bar” Barriault (11-2)
                                            Every time UFC signs a European fighter I think it’s solely to have enough talent to populate overseas fight cards, and not to develop a potential contender. I guess the same can be said for some of the Canadian signees and this PPV curtain-jerker, on paper, provides examples of both. Krzysztof Jotko seemed to be the exception to the rule, racking up five straight wins after a 2014 loss to Magnus Cedenblad, but then he took that momentum and threw it in the trash with three consecutive losses, two of which saw him get put away in spectacular fashion. I’m not sure all is forgiven with a rebound win over the unheralded Alen Amedovski, but I guess that remains to be seen, based on what we get from the Pole in tomorrow night’s fight.
                                            Marc-Andre Barriault was signed earlier this year to a considerable amount of hype, and rightly so, as “Power Bar” lived up to his nickname with a bevy of brutal knockouts on the local circuit. But all that glitters is not gold, and the 29 year-old bruiser also posted four split decisions during that same span, which may explain why his Andrew Sanchez loss at UFC Ottawa went all three rounds. With zero submissions in 13 professional fights, I don’t expect this contest to unfold on the ground at any point during their 15-minute slugfest. I think the more important question is whose chin holds up when the leather starts to fly and the answer, much to the chagrin of the JUST BLEED’rs, is both of them.
                                            Prediction: Jotko def. Barriault by split decision
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                                            • dawg58kahn
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                                              #92
                                              anyone has a stream for the early prelims?
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                                              • Thrilla
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                                                #93
                                                Case made to stab at Cyborg vs. Spencer over 1.5 rounds @+170. Cyborg could be a littler more cautious here after a loss..being KOd for the first time in her career no less. While I expect Spencer doing things to try and avoid the power of Cyborg. Hump the cage, circle around, wrestle etc. etc.

                                                I got more reasons for over than under if the plus-price alone isn't good enough.
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                                                • nyrider88
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                                                  #94
                                                  Originally posted by dawg58kahn
                                                  anyone has a stream for the early prelims?
                                                  didn't you ask for a stream last event too? none of those sites would work til the starting time.
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                                                  • JIBBBY
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                                                    #95
                                                    Originally posted by dawg58kahn
                                                    anyone has a stream for the early prelims?
                                                    You gotta save the Stream sites in your Bookmark favorites for future use..

                                                    This should work. I gave you this last time Dawg... Ripple usually delivers the goods and in HD.. http://ripple.is/
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                                                    • Sanity Check
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                                                      #96
                                                      Originally posted by firekillex
                                                      really thought gavin tucker was going to be something special but that L he took Rick Glenn was brutal....
                                                      Gavin Tucker might have run into the same issues Josh Samman, Desmond Green, Thiago Silva, Melvin Guillard, Jason Mayhem Miller and countless other fighters experienced after they started using drugs.

                                                      Casual MMA fans say being punched in the face and cutting weight can "really screw up your brain bra". Cuz they're always running around like headless chickens blindly repeating things fake MMA journalists say.

                                                      In the real world, nothing is more dangerous or damaging to an athlete's career than drug abuse.
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                                                      • Sanity Check
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                                                        #97
                                                        Eric Koch used to fight at 145.

                                                        First fight at welterweight for him tonight.

                                                        Will he have more than one round of cardio?
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                                                        • Thrilla
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                                                          #98
                                                          Originally posted by Sanity Check
                                                          Eric Koch used to fight at 145.

                                                          First fight at welterweight for him tonight.

                                                          Will he have more than one round of cardio?
                                                          Even if he has, the other guy is bigger stronger.
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                                                          • dawg58kahn
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                                                            #99
                                                            Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                            You gotta save the Stream sites in your Bookmark favorites for future use..

                                                            This should work. I gave you this last time Dawg... Ripple usually delivers the goods and in HD.. http://ripple.is/
                                                            thanks dawg...do you search for these on yahoo?
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                                                            • JIBBBY
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                                                              #100
                                                              Ripple stream clogged and slow.. Thrilla don't nominate stream posts... Keep it to this thread. More that log on and stream the slower it gets.. Most know about Ridd but still.

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                                                              • dawg58kahn
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                                                                #101
                                                                i am not picky but i wont fuk these next 2 hores...they are fuking filthy
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                                                                • dawg58kahn
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                                                                  #102
                                                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                  Ripple stream clogged and slow.. Thrilla don't nominate stream posts... Keep it to this thread. More that log on and stream the slower it gets.. Most know about Ridd but still.

                                                                  http://vipboxing.net/boxing/iss-4cd4...ms?l=798628858
                                                                  the dawg has found a better one for you

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                                                                  • JIBBBY
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                                                                    #103
                                                                    Originally posted by dawg58kahn
                                                                    thanks dawg...do you search for these on yahoo?
                                                                    Dawg you can kiss my ass now.. I try to help a ghetto brother from the booo out and you post this.. Kiss my ass Dawg..

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                                                                    • dawg58kahn
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                                                                      #104
                                                                      if you guys had a choice, who would you bang??? i take the canadian
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                                                                      • dawg58kahn
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                                                                        #105
                                                                        Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                        Dawg you can kiss my ass now.. I try to help a ghetto brother from the booo out and you post this.. Kiss my ass Dawg..

                                                                        dont take it personal dawg...do you have feelings?!?!
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