UFC 221: Rockhold vs. Romero (February 10, 2018)

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  • LONELYPALACE69
    SBR Rookie
    • 02-10-18
    • 21

    #281
    First post here. Been lurking for years. Would firstly like
    to thank you all for the great discussions that you guys have been partaking in
    here. I have gained much insight and knowledge from the lot of you and it was
    not without appreciation. Hopefully, I will be able to add a little something
    in return.



    Anyhow, here are my breakdowns and picks for UFC 221.





    1 – Abe vs Jumeau





    On first thought, I was leaning towards Abe here. He has
    great hand dexterity and surprising power for his frame, and did some major
    damage to a dangerous guy in Lim. Jumeau, on the other hand, had a solid
    performance in his debut, but didn’t stand out to me as someone who will make
    much of a dent in the big league that is the UFC. In fact, I still don’t think
    he will. But after rewatching Abe’s fight with Lim and Luke vs. Steele, I’m
    picking him to get the small upset here. One thing that really struck me
    watching Abe’s debut was the drastic difference between how advanced his upper
    body movement appeared in contrast with his footwork and movement of his lower
    body/feet. Often times, Abe appeared to simply be standing flat footed, waiting
    for an opportunity to let his hands go but not showing much ability to force
    those situations with angles and pressure. This really almost cost him the
    fight, in my opinion, as the second round and a good portion of the third
    appeared to see him drifting towards a loss, until of course he turned up the
    volume and ultimately finished the final frame with a huge knockdown and follow
    up punches. Jumeau is not the better fighter here, and Abe is probably actually
    the better athlete as well. But Jumeau also probably realizes this and will, in
    my estimation, at least be the more willing and active (although
    strike-for-strike less effective) fighter on the feet, which is where I see the
    majority of this fight taking place. I think that he can out-volume Abe here
    and win at least 2/3 rounds so long as he can avoid letting Abe find the
    openings that he will need to have big moments and potentially finish or do
    enough to sway the judges. At +130, I feel as if the odds should probably be
    reversed and thus, this is the first play of the night for me on this card.



    Luke Jumeau +130 (2.5 units)








    2 – Quinones vs. Ishihara





    “Bitches” was one of my most anticipated prospects prior to
    the Lobov and Maynard fights, two occasions where he managed to reveal a pretty
    clearcut blueprint for how he can lose fights. Making the cut to 135 seems like
    a something of a desperation move, and while that usually would make me shy away
    from a fighter but, this actually might be one of the rare exceptions. Feeling
    like his back is against the proverbial wall here might just be the best
    possible mindset for Ishihara to have going into a fight against a stylistic
    contrast like Quinones, a fighter who in a lot of ways is the exact opposite of
    Ishihara (not overly dangerous but very willing to mix it up and be as active
    as possible in order to get the W). An apathetic Ishihara would be a rightful
    underdog going into this matchup as his tendency to wait for that one perfect
    counter shot would most likely lead to him being on the losing end of a
    decision those 60-70% of the times that he wouldn’t be able to land it. I doubt
    Ishihara will be as content to do so much waiting here, however, as he certainly
    realizes that his UFC career is on the line and likely feels as if his
    opponent, being a smaller and less dangerous (at least from a highlight-reel KO
    sense of the word) guy, is undeserving of being the one to send him back to the
    minors. I expect Ishihara to press the action more than usual here and am not
    so sure how Quinones will deal with fighting off of his back foot, especially
    given the amount of power that will be coming at him. It is certainly possible
    that Ishihara shits the bed again here, or that Quinones simply is too well
    rounded and saps Ishihara’s will and gas tank with a few early takedowns, but
    on the feet I favor the Japanese fighter significantly and am not overly
    convinced that Quinones can take down a fresh Ishihara especially if the fight
    is being brought to him which would likely be the opposite of what he is
    expecting. At +175/+180, this seems like a must play to me, although it
    couldn’t be further from a sure thing.



    Teruto Ishihara +180 (1.75 units) and +175 (0.75 units)





    3 – Pearson vs Hirota





    Ross Pearson gets another fight despite having lost 4 in a
    row, and I’m certainly not going to complain about it. He hasn’t been fighting
    elite competition, per say, but also hasn’t been given that rebound fight that
    established and well-liked guys like him usually are gifted when in danger of
    getting the ax. To me (I’m sure many of you may disagree), this fight is
    exactly that. When a fighters time comes, it comes hard, and rarely is it wise
    to bet on an aging veteran to snap a skid like Pearson’s. That being said, I
    watch those four fights that he’s lost on this downward slide and walk away
    feeling as if he would have lost those exact same fights in similar ways at any
    point throughout his career. He didn’t look like a lesser version of Ross
    Pearson, he simply looked like Ross Pearson. In fact, I had him up against
    Hooker until the finish, and also I think it’s fair to say that he was much
    more competitive with Masvidal than even a guy like Cerrone was (and the
    timeframe of those fights weren’t too far apart; was a 170 lb fight vs
    Masvidal, IIRC, despite both guys having traditionally been lightweights). I’m
    not going to get too much into the technicalities of this matchup because
    everyone here should know what both of these guys are about. My thought is
    this. Any version of Ross Pearson would have lost to his last four opponents
    and any version of Ross Pearson should be able to outbox and outwork Mizuto
    Hitota to a clear-cut decision.



    Ross Pearson -145 (bet to win 2.55 units)





    4 – Da Silva vs. Nguyen





    Interesting test here for Ben-10 as he faces one of
    flyweights best positional grapples in Formiga. I feel like this fight is being
    set up to push Benny towards a #1 contender bout and I think that the
    matchmakers chose the perfect opponent to get him there. Da Silva is a supreme
    grappler, typically winning his fights by attaining dominant positions and
    forcing his opponent into a game where they have no choice but to be defensive
    for the entire fight, thus nullifying their own offense. As good as he is in
    that regard, his submission prowess hasn’t necessarily been showcased too often
    under the UFC banner as he has only a third of his wins via stoppage. Still,
    the game works quite often for him, even against relatively high-caliber opposition,
    and it is very possible that he does the same here. I’m going with Ben here
    though. His last submission loss was over ten years ago, and despite losing a
    grapple-centric battle vs Smolka not all that long ago, I’m not sure that Da
    Silva’s style (althought much, much, much more skilled and technical than
    Smolka’s grappling: don’t get what I’m saying twisted) is going to match up
    against Ben quite as effectively. The Smolka fight was full of scrambles, back
    and forth , and that itself seemingly gave Nguyen, an uber-offensive fighter by
    nature, an outlet in which he could exercise his pursuit for a finish despite
    being at a disadvantage and being on the wrong end of most of what was
    happening. Even if Da Silva gets Ben down, I feel like the action will be less
    back and forth and thus will simply drive Ben away from scrambling and going
    back and forth on the ground, unlike the way the Smolka fight seemed to work
    out mentally for him. At some point, Nguyen will be in a spot where he can
    unleash some offense and the more of it that Da Silva has forced him to hold
    within himself and let build up, the more aggressive and determined he will be
    to make it happen, and to make it happen quickly. This type of aggression,
    combined with Ben’s power and boxing ability, is exactly what Formiga has
    struggled with in his UFC losses, at least prior to the Borg and somewhat the
    Cejudo fight. I’m thinking Ben gets the second round TKO after being controlled
    for much of the first.



    Ben Nguyen +110 (4 units)





    5 – Kennedy vs. Volkanovski





    I really could be dead wrong on my analysis here. Let me
    just go ahead and say that and get it out of the way.



    Volkanovski has the power advantage, and the technical
    striking advantage. He has the strength and is probably the better wrestler. In
    fact, he’s probably the better overall fighter here. But I’m not too convinced
    that Jeremy Kennedy gives a shit. According to both Volkanovski and the UFC,
    Kennedy has been the one pushing for this matchup even with the strong public
    perception that he will enter it outmatched. Despite all of the advantages that
    Volkanovski has on paper (an on film, honestly), I feel like Kennedy has a
    certain level of grit and persistence that makes him the better long-term prospect
    of the two. I don’t see Volkanovski ultimately making it any further than the
    bottom end of the divsions’s top ten, if that, and even with a loss here, I
    could see Kennedy eventually being a 5-8 ranked guy down the line if he
    continues to aggressively push towards the top and develops some more
    solidarity within the holes that his game most definitely has at this moment.
    For this fight he will enter with a size and reach advantage that should help
    even things out on the feet, at least in short spurts, as Kennedy will most
    likely be looking to press the New Zealander up against the cage and grind him
    from there. The height advantage really could be a factor there as cage-clinch
    striking could very well end up being a significant chunk of what takes place
    during this fight. I really see two equally likely outcomes here. The first is
    that Volkanovski comes out and torches Kennedy, either with early punches or by
    manhandling him with his wrestling and really making this a one-sided beatdown.
    And the other, equally likely (to me), outcome is that this is a close, not
    very exciting, grind-filled affair, a style of fight in which I heavily favor
    Kennedy to outwork and outgrit Volkanovski. It’s a pick-em to me, maybe even
    slightly favoring Volkanovski. But the value is there, at least in my
    estimation



    Jeremy Kennedy + 170 (2 units)





    6 – Adesanya vs. Wilkinson





    So excited to see Izzy make his debut. The highlight reels
    are incredibile with this one. I’ll admit though, the Guillard fight is the
    only full MMA (not including Glory) fight of his I have watched. Wilkinson’s
    record would indicate that he is a relatively dangerous opponent here, but his
    fight with Siyar pretty much did just the opposite. I do recall Izzy calling
    out Wilkinson after the Guillard win despite already being in different
    organizations by then. I wonder if the UFC made the fight because of some
    possible bad blood or what not between the two? Who knows. All I care about is
    seeing how Adesanya looks here so I can develop a better grasp of how he will
    perform now that he is in the majors. As for this, his debut, it will be a
    no-play as I spent too much time capping the fights that I knew I could get
    reads on and didn’t bother with one where the odds were too steep on the guy I
    would likely end up favoring. Maybe if Wilkinson was being offered around +375
    or more, then I would have been inclined to properly cap this fight. Certainly
    will be watching and enjoying the show.






    7 – Brown vs Kim





    On paper this should be a war, and it very well may turn out
    that way, but Kim’s last few fights have shown him taking a different, more
    measured although less effective approach. He really did not impress me in the
    O’Reilly fight and honestly, who wouldn’t torch Gomi in 2017? Realistically,
    his most impressive performance was a fight in which he ended up getting TKO’d
    by an 8-4 guy who lost 3 out of 4 before entering the UFC. WHY IS HE A FAVORITE
    HERE? Yeah, Brown is another exciting but not very great fighter, but , outside
    of the Pachel KO, he’s shown to be more durable, more consistent with his approach,
    a better grappler (although Kim seems to fancy himself a grappler lately, at
    least in the O’Reilly fight), and a more powerful puncher who is also fighting
    in his hometown. Why care about technique when capping this when these guys
    don’t even care about technique when fighting?



    Damien Brown +115 (2 units)





    8 – Pedro vs Saforov (did not cap; never betting Saforov and
    I wouldn’t take Pedro – 300 against any LHW on the roster until I see more
    development from him; not a knock on the guy, he has potential in my opinion,
    just too raw to get a comfortable read on at the moment)






    9 – Li vs Mathews


    Finally. This is the one I’ve been waiting on. When watching
    Li’s first two UFC bouts, I honestly pegged him as future fade material. Boy,
    could I have been more wrong there huh? The torching of Dhiego Lima that
    followed didn’t answer all of my questions it sure opened my eyes and
    thankfully so. This kid is an absolute pleasure to watch and has surpassed any
    expectations I had for him two fights in. And oh how ironic does that make this
    matchup against Jake Mathews, a guy who I could literally type the
    alternate-world version of the previous three sentences about and have it ring
    100% true. Two fights into his UFC career, Mathews looked like a future title
    contender if not champion. Subbing Vagner Rocha? Where did this kid even come
    from? But then came James Vick, a few not all that impressive wins, and a
    demolition at the hands of Kevin Lee. It was then that I realized just how
    little Jake Matthews had developed during his UFC tenure thus far, and just how
    limited his game actually was. Well. I didn’t realize exactly how limited it
    really was until the next fight, a loss to Andrew penetrating Holbrook. Wow. At
    this point in time, it’s fair to not only call his technical skillset limited
    but also his mental. A strange move to welterweight and an unimpressive win
    over Bojan Velickovic certainly haven’t changed my thoughts on this kid, while
    during this same time, Li has shown true stride and development in both of
    these aspects, showing more and more poise with this striking rather than just
    the swing wild and brawl style that he began with, and also showing a very
    improved ability to gauge distance and combine that with a decent sprawl to
    become harder and harder to get to the floor, which happens to be the only way
    Mathews would have a shot at winning this fight. Easy call here, especially
    since for whatever reason the public has bet this down to give us even better
    odds. I love it. Maybe I’ll be eating crow Sunday and I don’t mind that. The
    read is solid and the value is there.



    Jiangling Li -190 (bet to win 2 units)/ -160 (bet to win 5
    units)



    U2.5 rds +145 (1.5 units)





    10 – Tuivasa vs Asker





    This is a fight tailor made to get Tuivasa a showcase finish
    in his home turf and chances are that will happen, and happen quickly. If not,
    he very well could lose this fight. All I know for sure is that I don’t bet
    completely unproven heavyweights at nearly -300, and I don’t bet on Cyril
    Asker. So. Next please.






    11 – Blaydes vs Hunt





    I love Blaydes here. Hunt is a known commodity and there are
    known ways to beat him. Still, not every fighter has the skillset to do so but
    Blaydes most certainly is not every fighter and barring a brainfart or flash
    KO, he should easily take Hunt down and grind him out. I probably would be less
    certain if not for the Ngannou fight, in which Blaydes took some huge shots and
    never went down, but given that proven chin, reach advantage and wrestling
    accolades, it’s his fight to lose. Add on top of that the fact that Hunt seems
    to be mentally checked out of the UFC already and this is a easy, medium sized
    play.






    Curtis Blaydes -155 (to win 3 units)


    Over 1.5 rds ( to win 1.5 units)





    12- Rockhold vs Romero





    This fight is the definition of a toss-up to me. Well. It’s
    the definition of a toss-up in which I ever so slightly favor one guy, that guy
    being Rockhold. It’s really a match where both guys have the definitive ability
    to capitalize on each other’s glaring weaknesses: Romero’s power could end
    Rockhold’s night at any time due to his questionable chin and poor boxing
    defense, and Rockhold’s length and cardio should allow him to force this fight
    into deep waters where Romero will likely fade and become a sitting duck (with
    crazy 3
    rd round finishing power ). I only bet this because I saw
    the line open on my book at +145 for Rockhold and knew that this was off. At
    the current odds, I would either pass or make a very small play on Romero.



    Luke Rockhold +145 (5 units)





    Hope these breakdowns help any of you on the fence about a
    certain fight as many of you have helped me with the same on many occasions.






    Best of luck to all of you SBR fam!!





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    • Shagdogy
      SBR MVP
      • 06-16-10
      • 3564

      #282
      Originally posted by JIBBBY
      Romero did miss weight also.. Not sure how that plays into this fight now?http://www.news.com.au/sport/ufc/yoe...df80ccc5ecf643
      I hope it's not another case where I fighter misses significantly, saves their energy by quitting on the cut, and then goes out and gets a W.
      Comment
      • JIBBBY
        SBR Aristocracy
        • 12-10-09
        • 83686

        #283
        Originally posted by Shagdogy
        I hope it's not another case where I fighter misses significantly, saves their energy by quitting on the cut, and then goes out and gets a W.
        That's the problem Romero gave it a second try at the weight cut, he could very well get depleted quickly in this fight and in a hurry.. That's another reason I like the Romero 1st round finish in this fight if he is to win.. Besides that all of Luke's KO losses have come in the 1st round.. He's a slow starter and can be prone to getting caught early..

        1025 Romero wins in round 1 +525


        1005 Rockhold wins inside distance +120
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        • BIGDAY
          SBR Aristocracy
          • 02-17-10
          • 48245

          #284
          Originally posted by JIBBBY
          If wrastlers rule this event then why are you on Mark Hunt? Lol.. Just giving you a hard time BIGDAY.. Blaydes is my biggest play on this card..


          Comment
          • BIGDAY
            SBR Aristocracy
            • 02-17-10
            • 48245

            #285
            Welcome to the show LonleyPlace.
            Comment
            • Shagdogy
              SBR MVP
              • 06-16-10
              • 3564

              #286
              Originally posted by LONELYPALACE69
              First post here. Been lurking for years. Would firstly like
              to thank you all for the great discussions that you guys have been partaking in
              here. I have gained much insight and knowledge from the lot of you and it was
              not without appreciation. Hopefully, I will be able to add a little something
              in return.


              Very thorough. Welcome to the forum. Consider posting your results on these once the card is up and keeping a running record here.

              A few thoughts: You mention you think Abe is the better fighter and better athlete, but Jumeau can out volume him? Have to disagree. Jumeau is very very low volume. I understand why you would think he would up the volume, but we haven't seen it out of him. Hugo helped me be better about not making assumptions and bet on what these fighters have shown us. Jumeau has shown us very low volume.

              I was originally seeing Volk/Kennedy similar to you but after rewatching Volk I had to change my mind. I was worry about the size and the grind of Kennedy but Volkanovski has been fighting nothing but bigger fighters and he hasn't been bullied. The late weigh ins also work against Kennedy here.

              Glad to see you on Blaydes. I like this play a lot. I hate that it's against the hometown favorite, but I like everything else about it. My biggest exposure on this card is NOT Mark Hunt in under 1.5.

              Good luck!
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              • TPowell
                SBR Posting Legend
                • 02-21-08
                • 18842

                #287
                Originally posted by LONELYPALACE69
                First post here. Been lurking for years. Would firstly like
                to thank you all for the great discussions that you guys have been partaking in
                here. I have gained much insight and knowledge from the lot of you and it was
                not without appreciation. Hopefully, I will be able to add a little something
                in return.

                You are playing every fight on the card.....?
                Comment
                • LONELYPALACE69
                  SBR Rookie
                  • 02-10-18
                  • 21

                  #288
                  Originally posted by Shagdogy
                  Very thorough. Welcome to the forum. Consider posting your results on these once the card is up and keeping a running record here.

                  A few thoughts: You mention you think Abe is the better fighter and better athlete, but Jumeau can out volume him? Have to disagree. Jumeau is very very low volume. I understand why you would think he would up the volume, but we haven't seen it out of him. Hugo helped me be better about not making assumptions and bet on what these fighters have shown us. Jumeau has shown us very low volume.

                  I was originally seeing Volk/Kennedy similar to you but after rewatching Volk I had to change my mind. I was worry about the size and the grind of Kennedy but Volkanovski has been fighting nothing but bigger fighters and he hasn't been bullied. The late weigh ins also work against Kennedy here.

                  Glad to see you on Blaydes. I like this play a lot. I hate that it's against the hometown favorite, but I like everything else about it. My biggest exposure on this card is NOT Mark Hunt in under 1.5.

                  Good luck!
                  Thank you! Always enjoy reading your posts Shag. I will certainly keep a tally here and will try my best, if time allows, to do a similar writeup for every event. I'm pretty busy most of the time but capping fights is one of my favorite hobbies.

                  As for the Abe fight, I believe that he is the better fighter and athlete in a idealistic sense but not necessarily a practical sense. I completely understand what you are saying and you very well may prove to be right. To be clear, I'm not insinuating that Jumeau needs to come out like Dillashaw vs Barao or any kind of insane increase in volume like that. I'm more or less saying that Abe's stationary style will allow for Jumeau to land with volume in comparison to both the fighters that he has fought previously and also in contrast to the amount of volume that I believe Abe will be landing within this fight. It's less banking on a change in style from Jumeau than just believing that the way these guys match up will pretty much hand Jumeau a volume increase whether he really seeks it out or not, and I believe that will win him the fight on the cards.

                  As for Volk/Kennedy, I'm completely prepared to be wrong. I've kinda figured out a capping style that works for me personally and a good 30-40% of that is simply gut feeling, which happens to be most prevalent in those two that you pointed out compared to the other plays that I mentioned which are reliant on both that gut instinct as well as more factual backing and basis. If I had to pick two fights that I am most likely wrong on, it would be those two, so I can't give you much debate back here. Also, I didn't know about the late weigh ins until today. Silly casual I am, I guess :/ lol.

                  Love Blaydes here. Like the over a good bit too but wish it was less juicy.

                  NOT Hunt under 1.5 is great. What kind of odds did that bring? Did you prefer this over the over 1.5 due to a perceived Blaydes early finish? I could see that moreso than a Hunt stoppage obviously.

                  Good luck to you as well my friend.
                  Comment
                  • LONELYPALACE69
                    SBR Rookie
                    • 02-10-18
                    • 21

                    #289
                    Originally posted by TPowell
                    You are playing every fight on the card.....?
                    No, I'm not.

                    I am playing most of them however, and no I do not usually do it this way.

                    Typically I will have plays on 5-6 fights on a 12 fight card.

                    I don't limit myself if I feel reads though.

                    Best of luck to you tonight
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                    • LONELYPALACE69
                      SBR Rookie
                      • 02-10-18
                      • 21

                      #290
                      Originally posted by BIGDAY
                      Welcome to the show LonleyPlace.
                      Thx
                      Comment
                      • LONELYPALACE69
                        SBR Rookie
                        • 02-10-18
                        • 21

                        #291
                        Originally posted by TPowell
                        You are playing every fight on the card.....?
                        You from Louisville pal?
                        Comment
                        • HurlSweatPants
                          SBR Wise Guy
                          • 07-28-15
                          • 951

                          #292
                          Originally posted by LONELYPALACE69
                          Thx
                          Hell of a way to introduce yourself, nice write ups. This card is as even as I remember in a while. GL
                          Comment
                          • LONELYPALACE69
                            SBR Rookie
                            • 02-10-18
                            • 21

                            #293
                            Originally posted by HurlSweatPants
                            Hell of a way to introduce yourself, nice write ups. This card is as even as I remember in a while. GL
                            Thanks figured I owed the forum a little effort on my first post since I've been using the discussions here for a while without giving anything back.

                            Good luck to you as well
                            Comment
                            • TPowell
                              SBR Posting Legend
                              • 02-21-08
                              • 18842

                              #294
                              Originally posted by LONELYPALACE69
                              You from Louisville pal?
                              Nope, western part of the state now pal
                              Comment
                              • Shagdogy
                                SBR MVP
                                • 06-16-10
                                • 3564

                                #295
                                Originally posted by LONELYPALACE69
                                Thank you! Always enjoy reading your posts Shag. I will certainly keep a tally here and will try my best, if time allows, to do a similar writeup for every event. I'm pretty busy most of the time but capping fights is one of my favorite hobbies.

                                As for the Abe fight, I believe that he is the better fighter and athlete in a idealistic sense but not necessarily a practical sense. I completely understand what you are saying and you very well may prove to be right. To be clear, I'm not insinuating that Jumeau needs to come out like Dillashaw vs Barao or any kind of insane increase in volume like that. I'm more or less saying that Abe's stationary style will allow for Jumeau to land with volume in comparison to both the fighters that he has fought previously and also in contrast to the amount of volume that I believe Abe will be landing within this fight. It's less banking on a change in style from Jumeau than just believing that the way these guys match up will pretty much hand Jumeau a volume increase whether he really seeks it out or not, and I believe that will win him the fight on the cards.

                                As for Volk/Kennedy, I'm completely prepared to be wrong. I've kinda figured out a capping style that works for me personally and a good 30-40% of that is simply gut feeling, which happens to be most prevalent in those two that you pointed out compared to the other plays that I mentioned which are reliant on both that gut instinct as well as more factual backing and basis. If I had to pick two fights that I am most likely wrong on, it would be those two, so I can't give you much debate back here. Also, I didn't know about the late weigh ins until today. Silly casual I am, I guess :/ lol.

                                Love Blaydes here. Like the over a good bit too but wish it was less juicy.

                                NOT Hunt under 1.5 is great. What kind of odds did that bring? Did you prefer this over the over 1.5 due to a perceived Blaydes early finish? I could see that moreso than a Hunt stoppage obviously.

                                Good luck to you as well my friend.
                                I'm on Blaydes and the over 1.5 so essentially I'm betting against an early Hunt win. I didn't actually bet not Hunt u1.5. I generally don't get many creative props on my book.
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                                • LONELYPALACE69
                                  SBR Rookie
                                  • 02-10-18
                                  • 21

                                  #296
                                  Originally posted by TPowell
                                  Nope, western part of the state now pal
                                  Oh, gotcha.

                                  I was born there but moved down South before I was old enough to remember anything. Got a lotta family still out there, great aunt used to stay across from the track. Always enjoy visiting, especially if I make it for Thunder. Cool place.
                                  Comment
                                  • Hugo de Naranja
                                    SBR Posting Legend
                                    • 04-14-16
                                    • 14140

                                    #297
                                    Originally posted by HurlSweatPants
                                    I know there was early discussion, but does anyone have an angle on Asker.

                                    Tuivasa is clearly the more skilled fighter and better striker, I worry about Tuivasa his shit gas tank. I like him to win by KO in the first, but if the can't finish early I think this fight could get really interesting.
                                    I think a live bet on Asker makes sense if it goes to R2 but I agree that Tuivasa probably wins in the first.
                                    Comment
                                    • Slevin07
                                      SBR Hustler
                                      • 07-08-17
                                      • 60

                                      #298
                                      My big play is on Blaydes which everyone else seems to have. Just hope he fights smart. Small plays on Rockhold and Li.

                                      I got Blaydes at -155, should've waited longer. Down to -145 now. Took him as he can take a punch, size advantage and athleticism.
                                      Comment
                                      • Hugo de Naranja
                                        SBR Posting Legend
                                        • 04-14-16
                                        • 14140

                                        #299
                                        Welcome to the forum Palace! Best of luck today.
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                                        • Hugo de Naranja
                                          SBR Posting Legend
                                          • 04-14-16
                                          • 14140

                                          #300
                                          Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                          That's the problem Romero gave it a second try at the weight cut, he could very well get depleted quickly in this fight and in a hurry.. That's another reason I like the Romero 1st round finish in this fight if he is to win.. Besides that all of Luke's KO losses have come in the 1st round.. He's a slow starter and can be prone to getting caught early..

                                          1025 Romero wins in round 1 +525


                                          1005 Rockhold wins inside distance +120
                                          I think Rockhold ML is better than ITD here. Rockhold is a great finisher but Romero is super tough to finish.
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                                          • LONELYPALACE69
                                            SBR Rookie
                                            • 02-10-18
                                            • 21

                                            #301
                                            Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                            Welcome to the forum Palace! Best of luck today.

                                            Thanks Hugo! Love your posts on here man. GL
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                                            • ken10
                                              SBR High Roller
                                              • 10-11-11
                                              • 188

                                              #302
                                              Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                              That's the problem Romero gave it a second try at the weight cut, he could very well get depleted quickly in this fight and in a hurry.. That's another reason I like the Romero 1st round finish in this fight if he is to win.. Besides that all of Luke's KO losses have come in the 1st round.. He's a slow starter and can be prone to getting caught early..

                                              1025 Romero wins in round 1 +525


                                              1005 Rockhold wins inside distance +120
                                              I agree with the logic but I think Luke knows Yoel will come out hot and so he will try to escape the first found fighting safer. I think Yoel lulls Rockhold to sleep and then KOs him in the 2nd or 3rd, if Yoel wins that is. I still like Luke by Decision
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                                              • UncleChael
                                                SBR MVP
                                                • 10-30-13
                                                • 3979

                                                #303
                                                Michaellll Bisping seee you sooon , boiiiii - The Soldier of God
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                                                • Richard Clock
                                                  SBR Sharp
                                                  • 02-09-18
                                                  • 394

                                                  #304
                                                  Also first time (sort of) poster on the board! Posted on SBR a few years ago back when I was still in college but recently got back into MMA handicapping and have been profiting well. Good to see some familiar faces!

                                                  Hunt line moves down to +120 on 5D. Glad I caught when it was at +155 a few hours ago.

                                                  Matthews line moves down to +130. Looking more like a no bet for me, hoping some late action comes in on Leech.

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                                                  • BIGDAY
                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                    • 02-17-10
                                                    • 48245

                                                    #305
                                                    People that are sleeping on Hunt will learnz tonight.
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                                                    • JIBBBY
                                                      SBR Aristocracy
                                                      • 12-10-09
                                                      • 83686

                                                      #306
                                                      Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                      I think Rockhold ML is better than ITD here. Rockhold is a great finisher but Romero is super tough to finish.
                                                      We'll see Hugo? I just think Romero has never faced someone like Luke on the ground.. If Luke gets on top of a gassed out Romero late in the fight I think he can either get the sub by taking his back or pound him out in mount.. Luke is a beast when he gets the fight going in that direction, breaks fighters..

                                                      Refs are also probably a little trigger happy to protect fighters and stop fights now that Dana White blew up on Yamasaki and basically made sure he'll never ref again...http://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/02/dana...ight-dangerous

                                                      Romero didn't make weight, Luke fights with his hands down and his chin up.. Something should give in this fight one way or the other is my thinking... Romero has also been saying he's gonna bring it and try to finish early..

                                                      We'll see?
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                                                      • JIBBBY
                                                        SBR Aristocracy
                                                        • 12-10-09
                                                        • 83686

                                                        #307
                                                        Originally posted by UncleChael
                                                        Michaellll Bisping seee you sooon , boiiiii - The Soldier of God
                                                        Everyone calls out Bisping these days. It's a big money fight and everyone always thinks they can beat MB that's why...
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                                                        • HurlSweatPants
                                                          SBR Wise Guy
                                                          • 07-28-15
                                                          • 951

                                                          #308
                                                          Originally posted by Richard Clock
                                                          Also first time (sort of) poster on the board! Posted on SBR a few years ago back when I was still in college but recently got back into MMA handicapping and have been profiting well. Good to see some familiar faces!

                                                          Hunt line moves down to +120 on 5D. Glad I caught when it was at +155 a few hours ago.

                                                          Matthews line moves down to +130. Looking more like a no bet for me, hoping some late action comes in on Leech.

                                                          Are you JoshKNOWS?
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                                                          • Hugo de Naranja
                                                            SBR Posting Legend
                                                            • 04-14-16
                                                            • 14140

                                                            #309
                                                            Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                            We'll see Hugo? I just think Romero has never faced someone like Luke on the ground.. If Luke gets on top of a gassed out Romero late in the fight I think he can either get the sub by taking his back or pound him out in mount.. Luke is a beast when he gets the fight going in that direction, breaks fighters..

                                                            Refs are also probably a little trigger happy to protect fighters and stop fights now that Dana White blew up on Yamasaki and basically made sure he'll never ref again...http://ftw.usatoday.com/2018/02/dana...ight-dangerous

                                                            Romero didn't make weight, Luke fights with his hands down and his chin up.. Something should give in this fight one way or the other is my thinking... Romero has also been saying he's gonna bring it and try to finish early..

                                                            We'll see?
                                                            Luke is a beast on the ground but Romero faced Jacare and spent significant time on the mat without being finished.
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                                                            • JIBBBY
                                                              SBR Aristocracy
                                                              • 12-10-09
                                                              • 83686

                                                              #310
                                                              Originally posted by HurlSweatPants
                                                              Are you JoshKNOWS?
                                                              He's back.
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                                                              • HurlSweatPants
                                                                SBR Wise Guy
                                                                • 07-28-15
                                                                • 951

                                                                #311
                                                                Originally posted by BIGDAY
                                                                People that are sleeping on Hunt will learnz tonight.
                                                                The lines are agreeing. Razor down to -130.
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                                                                • Hugo de Naranja
                                                                  SBR Posting Legend
                                                                  • 04-14-16
                                                                  • 14140

                                                                  #312
                                                                  Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                  He's back.
                                                                  Pretty sure this isn't Josh. This guy doesn't seem like a prick
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                                                                  • JIBBBY
                                                                    SBR Aristocracy
                                                                    • 12-10-09
                                                                    • 83686

                                                                    #313
                                                                    Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja
                                                                    Luke is a beast on the ground but Romero faced Jacare and spent significant time on the mat without being finished.
                                                                    That's true and good point Hugo!!!

                                                                    If I remember correctly though Romero was in deep trouble at times against Jacare when he was gassed out late and on bottom.. I also think Luke has more brutal ground and pound then Jacare. Luke looks to punch and break you on the ground then get the submission while Jacare mostly tries to just go for the subs...

                                                                    Also Romero rocked Jacare early on so that may have taken some zing out of Jacare's ground game... Luke is a different kind of ground fighter then Jacare is what I'm trying to say I guess. Luke punishs you badly on top and breaks you..

                                                                    I need to watch that fight again..Jacare vs Romero..

                                                                    Last edited by JIBBBY; 02-10-18, 05:00 PM.
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                                                                    • Hugo de Naranja
                                                                      SBR Posting Legend
                                                                      • 04-14-16
                                                                      • 14140

                                                                      #314
                                                                      Originally posted by JIBBBY
                                                                      That's true and good point Hugo!!!

                                                                      If I remember correctly though Romero was in deep trouble at times against Jacare when he was gassed out late and on bottom.. I also think Luke has more brutal ground and pound then Jacare. Luke looks to punch and break you on the ground then get the submission while Jacare mostly tries to just go for the subs...

                                                                      Also Romero rocked Jacare early on so that may have taken some zing out of Jacare's ground game... Luke is a different kind of ground fighter then Jacare is what I'm trying to say I guess. Luke punishs you badly on top and breaks you..

                                                                      Yeah I'd say they have the two best top games at MW but do have different focuses on the mat like you said.
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                                                                      • Richard Clock
                                                                        SBR Sharp
                                                                        • 02-09-18
                                                                        • 394

                                                                        #315
                                                                        Originally posted by HurlSweatPants
                                                                        Are you JoshKNOWS?
                                                                        I honestly don't remember what my username is. Maybe I can find one of SBR emails from my old email address. I never had an issues with any of the other posters, just stopped posting because I didn't have the time.
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