UFC Fight Night 123: Swanson vs. Ortega | Saturday 12.09.2017 (Fresno, CA)

**MMANick** · 12-09-17, 08:29 PM

He arguably lost every round, but for sure lost 2.

**UncleChael** · 12-09-17, 08:30 PM

I agree with it. Dude just tried going for TDs gassing himself out then not even doing anything with TD. Frankie Saenz and the knees for me

**PaperTrail07** · 12-09-17, 08:30 PM

"IT IS WHAT IT IS"-Max Holloway

**PaperTrail07** · 12-09-17, 08:31 PM

I personally had it 30

0-27

Originally posted by MMANick

He arguably lost every round, but for sure lost 2.

**thewitchinghour** · 12-09-17, 08:31 PM

definitely some heavy knee game...

**Shagdogy** · 12-09-17, 08:32 PM

Originally posted by Shagdogy

Soukhamthath +215, .5u
Holtzman -142, 1u
Lopez -120, 1.2u
Aljo +125, .8u
Benitez +265, .5u
Alex Perez + Alcantara parlay -106, 1u

That's all for now. Buncha small stuff just hopefully have a little fun. Good luck everyone.

Lost my Alex Perez parlay with Alcantara already so I'm adding it back in as Perez/Holtzman +110, 1u. Rolling with you on Holtzman, Hugo.

**Sato** · 12-09-17, 08:33 PM

This guy from the philippines is a kid. Wow.

**turbozed** · 12-09-17, 08:33 PM

Took soukhamtath at +285 based on value alone. OK he's winless in the ufc but he's not THAT bad

**PaperTrail07** · 12-09-17, 08:33 PM

Pretty sure everyone here is somewhat heavy on sanders next fight...

**Hugo de Naranja** · 12-09-17, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by Shagdogy

Lost my Alex Perez parlay with Alcantara already so I'm adding it back in as Perez/Holtzman +110, 1u. Rolling with you on Holtzman, Hugo.

Let's get it Shag!

**PaperTrail07** · 12-09-17, 08:34 PM

As I type.....THERE HE IS LOL...

Originally posted by turbozed

Took soukhamtath at +285 based on value alone. OK he's winless in the ufc but he's not THAT bad

**MMANick** · 12-09-17, 08:36 PM

Originally posted by UncleChael

I agree with it. Dude just tried going for TDs gassing himself out then not even doing anything with TD. Frankie Saenz and the knees for me

Frankie was just as gassed...

**Hugo de Naranja** · 12-09-17, 08:38 PM

http://mmadecisions.com/decision/8669/Frankie-Saenz-vs-Merab-Dvalishvili;jsessionid=E303DEF1BEA4E99F51F9DAE66E084C19

Guess some people scored it for Saenz

**Hugo de Naranja** · 12-09-17, 08:40 PM

Originally posted by turbozed

Took soukhamtath at +285 based on value alone. OK he's winless in the ufc but he's not THAT bad

Souk isn't bad he's passive and probably needs to finish to win in a step up in competition against a tough style matchup.

**Demonata** · 12-09-17, 08:42 PM

Get up you ding dong!!!

**Hugo de Naranja** · 12-09-17, 08:43 PM

Originally posted by Demonata

Get up you ding dong!!!

Who are you betting tonight?

**Shagdogy** · 12-09-17, 08:44 PM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

Souk isn't bad he's passive and probably needs to finish to win in a step up in competition against a tough style matchup.

I think he showed good striking improvement between his first 2 UFC fights and he's still down there with Henry Hooft who is a real good striking coach, but also generally gives good, accurate advice in the corner about winning/losing rounds and needing urgency. I feel like they will know he can't go out there passive and win this fight.

I still remember Hooft losing it as Rumble came out with an all wrestling approach against DC.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 12-09-17, 08:46 PM

Filipino fighters seem to have really limited wrestling/grappling games (see Jenel Lausa)

**MMANick** · 12-09-17, 08:46 PM

That kid is good.

**Demonata** · 12-09-17, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

Who are you betting tonight?

Anders knight parlay. Also cub swanson.

**Shagdogy** · 12-09-17, 08:46 PM

CJDT never in that fight. Didn't think he would be. 2nd fight in a row he spent turtled on the ground with no getups just defending subs.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 12-09-17, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by Shagdogy

I think he showed good striking improvement between his first 2 UFC fights and he's still down there with Henry Hooft who is a real good striking coach, but also generally gives good, accurate advice in the corner about winning/losing rounds and needing urgency. I feel like they will know he can't go out there passive and win this fight.

I still remember Hooft losing it as Rumble came out with an all wrestling approach against DC.

"Don't quit"

-Henri Hooft

**Demonata** · 12-09-17, 08:48 PM

I hope a titty falls out in carmouche davis fight! Would make my night

**Hugo de Naranja** · 12-09-17, 08:48 PM

But yeah I agree he's a good coach, especially for striking.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 12-09-17, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by Demonata

I hope a titty falls out in carmouche davis fight! Would make my night

They're both pretty ugly haha

**MMANick** · 12-09-17, 08:48 PM

Originally posted by Demonata

I hope a titty falls out in carmouche davis fight! Would make my night

Don't wanna see either pair lol

**thewitchinghour** · 12-09-17, 08:50 PM

added an additional parlay to the card anders and luke sanders... gl all

**Hugo de Naranja** · 12-09-17, 08:50 PM

Didn't bet that fight but am glad to have called Perez to get a D'Arce

**Demonata** · 12-09-17, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by Hugo de Naranja

They're both pretty ugly haha

I don't care about there faces though. I've seen sone ugly cgicjs witj really nice tutss

**Demonata** · 12-09-17, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by MMANick

Don't wanna see either pair lol

Donnt need too see pairssd one titty is fine

**the1yankee** · 12-09-17, 09:00 PM

Just curious fellas.
What recent big time opponents has Ortega beat?
Don't follow Ortega much. Thanks

**Sato** · 12-09-17, 09:01 PM

Originally posted by the1yankee

Just curious fellas.
What recent big time opponents has Ortega beat?
Don't follow Ortega much. Thanks

None.

**UncleChael** · 12-09-17, 09:01 PM

Originally posted by Demonata

Donnt need too see pairssd one titty is fine

Magana's nippple slipped last week. Lets go 2 for 2. Lmao.

**Hugo de Naranja** · 12-09-17, 09:01 PM

Originally posted by the1yankee

Just curious fellas.
What recent big time opponents has Ortega beat?
Don't follow Ortega much. Thanks

The most well known guy would probably be Guida. The best guy he beat would probably be Moicano.

**the1yankee** · 12-09-17, 09:02 PM

Ortega kinda looks like ass chins brother