Future Fights Thread

[firekillex]

This sounds like DC's plan. No way that he (Cormier) fights Cain for the title at any point imo.

0% chance he would fight Cain
but im hoping him taking this fight doesnt mean Cain will never fight again , because obviously they talked and planned this out
unless Cain is coming back for 1 tune up fight while DC fights Stipe , then if he wins hell drop back down or retire and let Cain fight for the belt

[firekillex]

5dimes opening line
Stipe Miocic -170
DC +140

i think DC line will go up a bit ( hopefully )

[Hugo de Naranja]

5dimes opening line
Stipe Miocic -170
DC +140

i think DC line will go up a bit ( hopefully )

Already up to (+165)

[firekillex]

Already up to (+165)

wonder how high itll go +170 already.... going to go DC for sure now, if it hits +200 ill be super pumped
im thinking Miocic is getting overhyped tbh, im leaning 60/40 DC in this fight plus odds i love it

[Hugo de Naranja]

wonder how high itll go +170 already.... going to go DC for sure now, if it hits +200 ill be super pumped
im thinking Miocic is getting overhyped tbh, im leaning 60/40 DC in this fight plus odds i love it

Miocic has been sooo underhyped for awhile so it might swing in the opposite direction after a career defining win.

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter/fighters/stipe-miocic

[firekillex]

Miocic has been sooo underhyped for awhile so it might swing in the opposite direction after a career defining win.

https://www.tapology.com/fightcenter...s/stipe-miocic

i remember watching miocic fight his first scrap in the UFC against joey beltran in 2011 and saying this guy will be a champion one day just because his movement was so solid and he was fluid... But i dont think hes the greatest HW of all time skill wise, maybe resume wise he has an argument but I 100% wouldnt put him #1 skill wise, i think hes a lesser version of Cain who DC happens to train with which will help him HUGE in this fight if hes healthy enough to train with DC and push him to the limits.... this will basically come down to if i bet DC in the end, if Cain is training with him i will be on DC no doubt


another thing i hope happens one day, i hope Gus moves up to HW one time, thats a guy whos SUPER underrated and i think is a championship talent but sometimes it seems like mentally hes not there and hes been screwed on a couple decisions which were 50/50 calls....

[Thrilla]

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[Hugo de Naranja]

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Who you got in this one Thrilla?

[Slevin07]

I feel this same way. Slight initial lean to Stipe but Cormier is very live. Should be a good scrap. How do you think they will line it?

Was thinking they would line it very close to even, and Stipe would make a solid pick. DC has only lost to roided Jones. But Gus did give him a good challenge. I know Gus has good tdd but if I remember correctly DC picked and flipped him once but that was it. Not sure if he didn't want to waste energy with td attempts or if he wanted to put on a show for fans.

Stipe is a more mentally sound Gus, with more power. Gus caught DC with an uppercut and floored him. Stipe is a good wrestler, I think even if DC gets him down that he'll get back up.

Without considering gambling, as a fan I would like DC to win. But I think Stipe takes it and maybe Cain can try and get revenge.

[Hugo de Naranja]

Santos (-150) 7.5u to win 5u

Sniped that opener. Let's get it!

[prior22usaf]

Santos (-150) 7.5u to win 5u

Sniped that opener. Let's get it!

Seeing it at -270 now... can't imagine you think there's any value left in that hefty line?

[Hugo de Naranja]

Seeing it at -270 now... can't imagine you think there's any value left in that hefty line?

Not really. That's about where I lined it.

[prior22usaf]

Not really. That's about where I lined it.

ok, thanks anyways Hugo as always for sharing your picks

[Hugo de Naranja]

ok, thanks anyways Hugo as always for sharing your picks

Sure man. Santos by KO/TKO seems like a good prop to bet. Smith has been finished in 11 of his 12 career losses, including 7 KO/TKO losses and Santos has finished 7 of his 8 UFC wins. Should be around (-135) or so.

[Thrilla]

Who you got in this one Thrilla?

Nothing official yet. Current leans Romero + Blaydes.

[Thrilla]

Odds for DC are a joke vs Stipe should be much closer. Jumping on it early.

[firekillex]

Odds for DC are a joke vs Stipe should be much closer. Jumping on it early.

agreed.... very close fight where either guy has a path to victory, depends who shows up that night imo

DC at those odds all day

[Hugo de Naranja]

Sure man. Santos by KO/TKO seems like a good prop to bet. Smith has been finished in 11 of his 12 career losses, including 7 KO/TKO losses and Santos has finished 7 of his 8 UFC wins. Should be around (-135) or so.

Looks like it opened at (-135) exactly.

[Hugo de Naranja]

Holloway vs. Edgar off due to Holloway injury.

[TPowell]

Forgot to mention that I have a good sized play on Jeremy Stephens at -130 against Emmett. I touted Emmett early in his career as a good fighter and he is but to me, Stephens is the more complete and mature version of Emmett. Emmett does move better on the feet and probably has better takedowns but both guys are more sprawl and brawl type of fighters with excellent TDD. The big mismatch is the cardio. I don't like Emmett's cardio AT ALL and this is a 5 round fight with a guy who has an excellent chin. Both guys try to load up on their punches a lot and I can see Emmett gassing after a couple rounds or so and Stephens picking him apart.

[firekillex]

Holloway vs. Edgar off due to Holloway injury.

smh........ edgar out first time now its holloway
sucks to see because i think holloway wants to hit 155 after beating Edgar
guys fckin huge for 145 like its ridiculous , he looks bigger then 170ers half the time

[firekillex]

Forgot to mention that I have a good sized play on Jeremy Stephens at -130 against Emmett. I touted Emmett early in his career as a good fighter and he is but to me, Stephens is the more complete and mature version of Emmett. Emmett does move better on the feet and probably has better takedowns but both guys are more sprawl and brawl type of fighters with excellent TDD. The big mismatch is the cardio. I don't like Emmett's cardio AT ALL and this is a 5 round fight with a guy who has an excellent chin. Both guys try to load up on their punches a lot and I can see Emmett gassing after a couple rounds or so and Stephens picking him apart.

agree, emmett will have the speed advantage i think but ill favor Stephens in any sort of brawl with winging punches.. dudes an animal

[firekillex]

thiago santos vs david branch announced
solid fight

[Hugo de Naranja]

thiago santos vs david branch announced
solid fight

Who ya got?

[firekillex]

Who ya got?

tough fight... could see either guy winning tbh
id lean branch if he can get him down to the mat , but its a 50/50 call imo sure the odds will be very close for this one

[Hugo de Naranja]

I love Blaydes ITD (+320).

On it for 2.5u. I'm confident he finishes Hunt here.

[firekillex]

I love Blaydes ITD (+320).

On it for 2.5u. I'm confident he finishes Hunt here.

how you feel he finishes him in this fight??

[Hugo de Naranja]

how you feel he finishes him in this fight??

Takedowns + Ground and Pound.

[Richard Clock]

Line was just released for Corey Anderson/Cummins with Corey Anderson opening at +145, which I absolutely jumped on for a betting unit. Both fighters similar stylistically and in overall talent, resume of wins/losses is similar (Only noticeable difference is Cummins edged Villante by split decision last fight and Corey was TKO'ed by Villante in 2014). Corey Anderson is 9 years younger with as many career fights as Cummins. This fight should be closer to evens, with Cummins maybe as a very slight favorite.

[Hugo de Naranja]

Line was just released for Corey Anderson/Cummins with Corey Anderson opening at +145, which I absolutely jumped on for a betting unit. Both fighters similar stylistically and in overall talent, resume of wins/losses is similar (Only noticeable difference is Cummins edged Villante by split decision last fight and Corey was TKO'ed by Villante in 2014). Corey Anderson is 9 years younger with as many career fights as Cummins. This fight should be closer to evens, with Cummins maybe as a very slight favorite.

Nice bet Richard! I totally agree that this is a mirror match with value on Anderson.

[Richard Clock]

i remember watching miocic fight his first scrap in the UFC against joey beltran in 2011 and saying this guy will be a champion one day just because his movement was so solid and he was fluid... But i dont think hes the greatest HW of all time skill wise, maybe resume wise he has an argument but I 100% wouldnt put him #1 skill wise, i think hes a lesser version of Cain who DC happens to train with which will help him HUGE in this fight if hes healthy enough to train with DC and push him to the limits.... this will basically come down to if i bet DC in the end, if Cain is training with him i will be on DC no doubt


another thing i hope happens one day, i hope Gus moves up to HW one time, thats a guy whos SUPER underrated and i think is a championship talent but sometimes it seems like mentally hes not there and hes been screwed on a couple decisions which were 50/50 calls....

I felt the same way about Miocic watching him early in his career. His loss to Struve is still one of MMA's oddest outliers and still baffles me.

[Richard Clock]

Kind of kicking myself for not just jumping in on Ortega at +180 on 5Dimes. Think that's plenty good of a price and is now down to +170. Hard to tell how this line is going to move as many of the books do not have this fight available, and the ones that do have generally gotten little action.

[Hugo de Naranja]

I felt the same way about Miocic watching him early in his career. His loss to Struve is still one of MMA's oddest outliers and still baffles me.

He got eye poked really bad by Struve right before he got rocked for the initial barrage that ended the fight.

[firekillex]

at Heavyweight anybody can really win on a given night anyways... example JDS beating Cain on FOX then Cain literally manhandling JDS 2 times in a row after showing hes by far the better fighter, thats why Mighty Mouse isnt the P4P imo because at that weight you have so much room for error compared to the higher weight classes but P4P is very subjective of course


and regarding Edgar/ortega.... i think Edgar is going to mop the floor with this guy... if Ortega beats Edgar ill eat my words but i still think this guy isnt elite, this is really the fight thats going to show what level this guys at

[Richard Clock]

at Heavyweight anybody can really win on a given night anyways... example JDS beating Cain on FOX then Cain literally manhandling JDS 2 times in a row after showing hes by far the better fighter, thats why Mighty Mouse isnt the P4P imo because at that weight you have so much room for error compared to the higher weight classes but P4P is very subjective of course

Interesting you say that because I think the margin for error is much smaller in the lighter weight classes. How many of the high-level bantamweight/flyweight fights end up in a close decision? That Mighty Mouse is not only able to win so consistently but do so in convincing and spectacular fashion is remarkable.